Why does Sup Forums mindlessly blame communism and Marxism for the ills of today's society?

Why does Sup Forums mindlessly blame communism and Marxism for the ills of today's society?

From my understanding, most of us can agree that socialism is fine as long as it is nationalist, correct?

I too am repulsed by modern liberalism and degeneracy but it does not appear to be "communist". Sure these liberal retards like to wear the hammer and sickle and tout about how communism would fix their social justice issues but the truth is that real communism, i.e the USSR, North Korea, China, were and are very nationalist despite using a "far left" political system. North Korea doesn't have trans rights, they don't have multiculturalism, their culture is their own. The Soviet Union was the same, captured territory was forced to become "Russian". See imperialism.

So why is communism the enemy again? It seems to me that communism was once a Jewish ideology that failed to globalize because of the countries it blossomed in were patriotic and nationalistic by nature. Capitalism seems to have spread far more degeneracy and multiculturalism. In fact, globalism will probably be a direct result of capitalism.

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Alright then, enjoy your echo chamber you abo retard.

no
fuck off

That's all you have to say? Your capitalist jew daddy taught you well, all you know is how to defend a flawed system that has allowed wealthy kikes to control your country, but fuck Communism right? Fuck the homogenous Soviet Union that trampled degenerates into dust, they were the bad guys right?

use all the buzzwords you like
Communism will never get a foothold on Sup Forums because it is inherently atheistic

Religion isn't the problem here, I'm not trying to spread communism either, I'm trying to talk about why it's so instantly pushed away here when it's not much different that NatSoc which is what the majority of this board identifies with.

>Religion isn't the problem here
yes it is
it's the same reason people moved away from anarcho-capitalism and libertarianism
It is a reaction to secular society

Anarcho-capitalism and libertarianism were never in the contest as dominant political forces, they're bottom of the barrel Sup Forums tier ideologies. Religion will always exist, the state has no need to sponsor it. Russia remains one of the highest populations of Christians in the world and despite communism, most of the country was still Christian. Communism put more of an emphasis on separation of church and state sure, but mainly so that the church wouldn't be able to steal power from the government.

>put more of an emphasis on separation of church and state sure
>vanguard party operated left wing iconoclasm squads to loot the Church

Capitalism merely allows for social degeneracy to occur and for it's practitioners to die off naturally. Likewise it allows those who dislike degeneracy to segregate themselves from it and grow.

Marxism actively encourages degeneracy, artificially keeps it and its practitioners alive at the expense of everybody else, and forces it on those who don't wish to participate with it.

Also, SAGE.

You do what you have to do to maintain power, the nazis did plenty of similar things, so does the current American government. You do realize that the same will start happening here in the western world except it will be so that Muslims aren't offended, and instead of secularism it will be Islam and paganism.

However the point being made was why does Sup Forums hate communism and marxism when every communist nation to ever exist resembled what Sup Forums would consider paradise.

>homogenous
>non degenerate
>no faggots
>no niggers

>Marxism actively encourages degeneracy, artificially keeps it and its practitioners alive at the expense of everybody else, and forces it on those who don't wish to participate with it.

Where have you seen this happen? Any sources other than Sup Forums just labeling all degeneracy Marxist?

Last time I checked it was liberal degenerate capitalists that spread the seeds of degeneracy to the entire world. Porn is capitalist, the homosexual market hungers for cock in ass porn so the jews make it for them and sell it. They become wealthy and start creating a bigger market for degeneracy by brainwashing idiots with advertisements and creating social trends. What an idiot.

>marxism
>not cancer

kys and tl;dr.

Don't try to use logic on Sup Forums.

The machine cannot be reasoned with.

You will just start smashing your forehead on the desk.

Welcome to Sup Forums.

>every communist nation to ever exist resembled what Sup Forums would consider paradise
>>non degenerate
objectively wrong. every far leftist movement in history advocated for sexual liberation
The Soviet Union was the first country in modern history to normalize homosexuality and engaged in free love experiments
It was only after Stalin took power that those forces were routed out

That's what I'm starting to believe, it's a shame really because sometimes there are some interesting discussions going on briefly in some threads.

Communism is anarchy and can't therefore be enforced and will therefore evolve into forms of government. Trying communism leads to socialist totalitarian shitholes like NL and the USSR. Nazism on the other hand offers both freedom and sustainability as the markets are free but bound to serve the best interests of the people.

No we cannot, go and live in post-communist society. Its still filled with degeneracy and clientelism. Seriously you champagne socialists go out more and see how the real fucking world looks like.

You can still get interesting discussions, you just have to change your approach. Baiting and shitposting is an art form that can make people want to defend themselves. It is then that people expose the folly of their beliefs.

Socialism works but communism is a pipe dream

>From my understanding, most of us can agree that socialism is fine as long as it is nationalist, correct?
Mmmm, yes. Good goy. That's the right story.

>most of us can agree that socialism is fine as long as it is nationalist, correct?

No kys

socialism great, you get others to pay for your lifestyle, and if they disagree, you shoot them.

Pretty sure Russia doesn't have Caitlyn Jenner as woman of the year, and I'm also pretty sure that Russia isn't AS affected by Jewish racemixing propaganda like the west. Liberalism and degeneracy is unavoidable now, the Jews won but by comparison its still better over there.

The only places unaffected by degeneracy now are sharia law countries and North Korea.

>nationalist socialism
>nazi

Just to clarify because you probably post in Hitler threads every day so you might want to withdraw that statement. If not then you're probably some libertarian moron that believes in open markets and free trade, if that's the case then don't bother replying.

>From my understanding, most of us can agree that socialism is fine as long as it is nationalist, correct?
Fascism is not just "nationalist socialism", it's something else entirely.

>From my understanding, most of us can agree that socialism is fine as long as it is nationalist, correct?
Wrong, faggot

National Socialism =/= Communism

I dont agree with you. Its just your jewish media, general population still got hope (nationalist resurgence). Communism and socialism are degenarate in their core, with the forced equality bullshit. Its just pretended, every society has hierarchy, its natural. Bringing up medieaval society like sandniggers is just plain retarded. Degeneracy can be purged only by a free man, and in our time only capitalism allows that.

here take this meenee ti explain fellow comrade

>Did the workers own the means of production?
>No --> It wasn't socialism
>Do you still think it's socialism?
>Yes --> Kill yourself

Because a lot of people here are lying to themselves about their intentions, and are just unwilling to admit it. No one wants to remove jews as a phenomena - people just want to take their place. After all, hysterical ethnocentrism is THEIR invention. Hitler just adopted it as a survival mechanism. And he nailed it. But he forgot an important thing - people tend to unite against wannabee ubermenchen.
As well, no one really wants to work hard their entire lives for the better future, or to get rid of their OWN degeneracy.
Deep inside - we all know that current capitalist system is fucked up on every possible level, to the point that ww3 with nuclear holocaust is in fact not the worst scenario. But admitting that communism (Aka working a lot not as much for your goals as for humanity ones while taming your body and mind from deheneracy) is the only way to get rid of all this bullshit is like forcing a pink-haired feminist landwhale to admit that all she needs to get rid of her problems is a fitness and healthy diet. And as forementioned fat girl will listen to anything justifying her gluttony and laziness, people will listen to anyone telling them muh communism is ebil. as it will help them to sleep.

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So is Sup Forums. Communism is low functioning autism. The kind of non verbal, can barely walk shit.

How hard are all of these sounds for you to pronounce?

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If you believe in Communism you deserve to live in USSR. Think about it again...

You mean English itself, or something paticular?

kys commie

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Its the same shit from a different angle bro. Jews realized regular marxism was a failed meme so they went for cultural marxism instead. Just like communism = Jews, the Frankfurt School also = Jews.

>This kills the Marxist

No matter the other problems the world has, communism is the chief concern. There are so many idealistic commies, but only the authoritarian ones ever come to power, and they either murder or starve everyone else.

Prolly a fucking commie

Marxism is fan-fucking-tastic
Even Lenin wasn't all wrong
I mean, to go from where Russia was to a Nuclear missile crisis in as little as 50 years is fucking impressive
BUT
Russians are fucked in the head or something.
It could've worked out if they didn't execute and gulag fucking anyone for pretty all fo their history.
Is that a difficult concept for them or something? Cause it seems to happen a lot.
People are worth money, you can't kill them all and expect progress. I mean shit, if they weren't doing that, they were just sending waves to get gunned down by german machine guns like a bunch of autistic tards.
Get your shit together Russia

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>I mean, to go from where Russia was to a Nuclear missile crisis in as little as 50 years is fucking impressive
Soviet agents stole the info from us.

>real communism

Every. Single. Time

>most of us can agree that socialism is fine as long as it is nationalist, correct?

Fuck you, socialism in any form spells doom for the country. Pinochet was a hero, chopper rides for all commies.

they had to already have the manufacturing capability
In capitalism it's automated, manufacturing builds its self
Russia didnt have jack shit though
>farms to nuclear missles
>in less than a lifetime

I'm not suggesting they don't have their fair share of smart and capable people, but they are kind of like the Chinese in that they were able to advance so fast because others already had the blueprint available. It's just both were subjugated and being artificially depressed, which is why they had the revolution in the first place. Industrialization in the west took a couple hundred years to be able to just automate it, as you put it.

Okay, they may not have been "real socialism", but they were attempts at socialism. Given that socialism has failed every time it has been attempted, the meme is still relevant.

fair point

>when it's not much different that NatSoc

You are aware that the Nazis hated Marxists more than anyone right?

>the captured territory was forced to become 'Russian'
And that is why the languages and the cultures were preserved and nourished to the point where rightful Russian clay tried to break off, in some cases successfully.

> socialism is fine as long as it's nationalist

No, wrong, sage.

Humanity will sail the stars, seed life in a thousand worlds, cross dimensions and look god in the eye.
And yet I bet we will still have people wondering why marxism doesn't work, I'm starting to think this kind of wishful thinking is part of humanity as much faith, it will simply never go away.