What Sup Forums thinks about monopoly?

StanleyBlack&Decker just brought one of its mains rivals in US creating a virtual-monopoly in many parts of the world (exepct one or two other bands belongs to others, but now big part belongs to StanleyBlack&Decker)

What Sup Forums thinks about tool monopoly and other Monopoly in general?

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Breaking up monopolies is one of the few practical, moral uses of the federal government, but corporate lobbying ensures it never fucking happens.

When's the last time a monopoly was actually broken up?

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i was talking about real monopoly brws lol

I love my hilmor tools, but they weren't selling very well. This is probably for the best

>tfw B&D is the last producer of cheap american tools
Ryobi, Makita, and Milfauky an shit

i think Bell? Or maybe TimeWarner?

Monopolies (or "oligopolies") of industries is the natural conclusion of capitalism.

This is what the "free market" tends towards, when it operates for profit. Monopolies exist because they maximize profits. Cornering the market is absolutely good business sense.

The technology of today (the internet, file sharing abilities, 3D printing) is making monopolies all the more important for companies to secure; all that information freely available, the ability for customers to buy from suppliers all over the world at the click of a button.

Capitalist companies need to either grow, or die. Small businesses have, essentially, one of two futures; they grow up to have effective monopolies, or they die.

Standard Oil?

Still not as good as snap on

Just another proof that the free market, while a fantastic thing, isn't perfect and needs correction from time to time. Another example of this is US ((((healthcare)))).

Generally I have a hard time understanding this die hard libertarian salafist-tier people who can't stand any critique of the almighty power of THE FREE MARKET. Reminds me of muzzie desu.

that is a good point to analise since that B&D brought lot of companies this year

Outside US now theres only Makita and in some little places bosch, praticaly everything belongs to Black&Deker now
Also Milakwie group sold Craftsman to B&D Earlier this year

>monopoly
>literally millions of ching chong tool manufacturers on alibaba

>ching chongs brokes after 6 months

agreed on the first part, but they do put up alot of road blocks for these companies to ""merge"" most of which just costs a bunch of money that the government steals.

allowing AT&T to merge with Time Warner would be a collosal mistake.

it would make that TelMex is for mexico

>6 months

If you're very lucky

>implying monopolies exist

gtfo commie

Pretty sure they own Dewalt as well.

They're competing against Chinese tool makers. When those chinks flood construction sites with tools that cost half of what American tools cost (at half the quality), penny pinching foremen and purchase agents can't resist.

Their tools are shit. I only buy top shelf...Harbor Freight baby!

snap on master race checking in

yeah they own Black & Decker, DeVilbiss Air Power, DeWalt, Porter-Cable, Bostitch, Mac Tools, Proto, Blackhawk, Sidchrome, Stanley Hand Tools, Husky, Craftsman, Irwin, Lennox / American Saw and Manufacturing Company

> implying monopolies don't exist

Retard

>at least a dozen major corporations competing
>a monopoly

nice try kike

>argues for the existence of monopolies by showing us that all crappy food is made by 9 different companies

Actually that's ten.

And you don't need to have an absolute monopoly (be literally the only company in the entire world) to be a monopoly. If you are the only producer stocking in x, y, or z city/state/country, then you have an effective monopoly in that region.

Monopolies are the weakness of capitalism. They never benefit the consumer, and only fuels the socialists fire.

Competition is the strength of capitalism. Humans are able to fulfill their nature of being competitive without bloodshed, and competition benefits the consumer, since companies are vying for their attention.

Ding ding ding! Bell. 1982.

Also why the fuck would a kike put across this line of argument, I thought kike's were money hungry capitalists in your head?

>competing

kys

>competing

Hilti master race reporting in..

>monopoly = not a monopoly

I WIN ALL THE ARGUMENTZ

communists detected

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I get what you're saying and stuff like this and the OP bug me, but its not a monopoly so there's nothing really to do about it.

I think a better example of what you're getting at is cable/internet providers locking down whole sections of a city with just one or two options that both suck.

They have a good selection from commercial construction to home users. As long is their selection stays good no issue with me. Guessing they don't own Milwaukee.

>If you are the only producer stocking in x, y, or z city/state/country

>implying that ever happens

nice shitpost kike

The first time I used a Hilti gun I fell in love.

They got Craftsman from the group that owns Milwaukee earlier this year, so be careful lol

True, internet providers are probably a better example. But even so, see - you don't need to have an absolute monopoly to have am effective monopoly. Consider large supermarkets that are the only place tens of thousands of people in some communities can go to shop for food. Particularly when you consider the constriction that cost plays; you can corner a market in terms of an income bracket too. The process is only developing faster and faster, too - this is only the beginning of what could come to be.

They are non existent ere m8

But, monopolies are bad, yes..
But it should be solved by the market, not by regulation.
It's a complex situation regardless.

Pretty good game, makes family gatherings positively murderous.

More seriously ideally they shouldn't be allowed to exist, but as points out they are an almost inevitable consequence of capatalist industries.

The true free market doesn't exist. It's a bit like talking to baby anarchists who think that by abolishing all government eveyone will sort things out, Except groups/governments/companies tend to consolidate power after a certain period of tme and form hierarchies of power.

But it does happen you moron.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_monopoly

>calls others morons
>can't provide an example

topkek, back to plebbit

Oh great now Irwin is going to go to shit

those are all shit tier tool manufacturers

dewalt is the only good tools

only possible via collusion with the state giving them bullshit legal protection normal people cant hide behind and regulations designed to fuck over smaller competetors

Found the AvE subscriber

dewalt is junk

my father said the same when i told him earlier this morning lol

Dewalt belongs to Stanley that belongs to B&D lol

No monopoly has ever existed without some form of state intervention to allow it, be it subsidies or otherwise.

Fine me ONE historical example to the contrary, if you can.

>statists btfo yet again

dewalt is ok; not great, but not black and decker garbage. when black and decker bought them years ago I thought they'd slide in quality, but not so far.

when I was younger I bought a few black and decker things. most sucked or broke in the most inexcusable ways. never again.

t. never held a tool

>being anarchist

*tips fedora

I've been buying Hitachi stuff for a while and it's all been good to me

It's pretty fun to play, but it can take forever to finish. Always try to get the railroads

>TimeWarner

Wrong they let that shit through after public outrage died down because "fuck drumpf!" Is more important. I know personally because they are now called Spectrum and provide my internet.

Pepsi has no business running yum! entirely.

>Snap on
>Mac tools offers the same thing for less

Get bent

This. Also you should never build hotels, but instead keep 4 houses on your properties so that there is a shortage.

>Mac Tools belong to B&D

>t. Mac door to door salesman

So it's even dumber to buy Snap on since they're the same company, thanks for helping to prove my point.

So...shitty tools all around?

Porter cable for life!

Actualy Snap-on is independent from B&D
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snap-on

probably

And they are all owned by china. We can't even build america with our own tools anymore.

You can't hold a monopoly under capitalism. (((Capitalism))) on the other hand is a different story.

Buy german or jap tools. They better.

Natural monopolies like this are ok. They're based on the superiority of one brand, and if that brand stops meeting the needs of its customers or becomes too pricey, another brand can easily appear to compete with it. As long as consumers are being served in the best way, it's fine.

The issue with monopolies comes when they artificially control the market, usually with the help of legislation or regulations. A cable provider being the only one permitted to serve an area is an example of a bad monopoly, because it doesn't matter if they offer a shitty or overpriced product, you're stuck with them and no one is allowed to compete.

Probably the best filename I've seen in a while

Google, PayPal, and eBay were all monopolies at some point (probably still are desu)

all those brands are synonymous with cheap chinesium shit, and have been for a while. Makita till I die.

>never provides evidence of his own claims
>uses memes as a form of counter argument

Just shut the fuck up before you make yourself look any dumber

>implying I have to prove a negative

nice shitpost kike

I would buy an Irwin product over SBD every time. If their quality suffers I'd be unhappy.

If you buy black and decker, ryobi or Dewalt tools you're a pleb.

poor guy

>When's the last time a monopoly was actually broken up?
Today actually
>BT agrees to legal separation of Openreach
>theregister.co.uk/2017/03/10/bt_agrees_to_legal_separation_of_openreach/

irony at finest

Kek

Shit tier tools locked up by one corporation?

I'm good

>What Sup Forums thinks about tool monopoly and other Monopoly in general?

they all are made by the same chinese factories who were just licensing the brand names anyways so who gives a fuck.

undeniable GOAT

I like Makita's consumer power tools too

if they buy Klein, then I'll start to worry