StanleyBlack&Decker just brought one of its mains rivals in US creating a virtual-monopoly in many parts of the world (exepct one or two other bands belongs to others, but now big part belongs to StanleyBlack&Decker)
What Sup Forums thinks about tool monopoly and other Monopoly in general?
Breaking up monopolies is one of the few practical, moral uses of the federal government, but corporate lobbying ensures it never fucking happens.
When's the last time a monopoly was actually broken up?
Dylan Moore
best game to get in a fight with your family
Aaron King
i was talking about real monopoly brws lol
Jonathan Clark
I love my hilmor tools, but they weren't selling very well. This is probably for the best
David Nelson
>tfw B&D is the last producer of cheap american tools Ryobi, Makita, and Milfauky an shit
Benjamin Roberts
i think Bell? Or maybe TimeWarner?
Ethan Cruz
Monopolies (or "oligopolies") of industries is the natural conclusion of capitalism.
This is what the "free market" tends towards, when it operates for profit. Monopolies exist because they maximize profits. Cornering the market is absolutely good business sense.
The technology of today (the internet, file sharing abilities, 3D printing) is making monopolies all the more important for companies to secure; all that information freely available, the ability for customers to buy from suppliers all over the world at the click of a button.
Capitalist companies need to either grow, or die. Small businesses have, essentially, one of two futures; they grow up to have effective monopolies, or they die.
Luis Thompson
Standard Oil?
Jayden Phillips
Still not as good as snap on
Luke Murphy
Just another proof that the free market, while a fantastic thing, isn't perfect and needs correction from time to time. Another example of this is US ((((healthcare)))).
Generally I have a hard time understanding this die hard libertarian salafist-tier people who can't stand any critique of the almighty power of THE FREE MARKET. Reminds me of muzzie desu.
Carter King
that is a good point to analise since that B&D brought lot of companies this year
Outside US now theres only Makita and in some little places bosch, praticaly everything belongs to Black&Deker now Also Milakwie group sold Craftsman to B&D Earlier this year
Adam Clark
>monopoly >literally millions of ching chong tool manufacturers on alibaba
Leo Parker
>ching chongs brokes after 6 months
Jason Bennett
agreed on the first part, but they do put up alot of road blocks for these companies to ""merge"" most of which just costs a bunch of money that the government steals.
allowing AT&T to merge with Time Warner would be a collosal mistake.
Jackson Hill
it would make that TelMex is for mexico
Oliver Garcia
>6 months
If you're very lucky
Camden Gomez
>implying monopolies exist
gtfo commie
Ryan Lewis
Pretty sure they own Dewalt as well.
Levi James
They're competing against Chinese tool makers. When those chinks flood construction sites with tools that cost half of what American tools cost (at half the quality), penny pinching foremen and purchase agents can't resist.
Jose Myers
Their tools are shit. I only buy top shelf...Harbor Freight baby!
Camden Cruz
snap on master race checking in
Luis Price
yeah they own Black & Decker, DeVilbiss Air Power, DeWalt, Porter-Cable, Bostitch, Mac Tools, Proto, Blackhawk, Sidchrome, Stanley Hand Tools, Husky, Craftsman, Irwin, Lennox / American Saw and Manufacturing Company
Benjamin Sanchez
> implying monopolies don't exist
Retard
Jack Sanchez
>at least a dozen major corporations competing >a monopoly
nice try kike
Cameron Flores
>argues for the existence of monopolies by showing us that all crappy food is made by 9 different companies
Jace Foster
Actually that's ten.
And you don't need to have an absolute monopoly (be literally the only company in the entire world) to be a monopoly. If you are the only producer stocking in x, y, or z city/state/country, then you have an effective monopoly in that region.
Jackson James
Monopolies are the weakness of capitalism. They never benefit the consumer, and only fuels the socialists fire.
Competition is the strength of capitalism. Humans are able to fulfill their nature of being competitive without bloodshed, and competition benefits the consumer, since companies are vying for their attention.
Noah Reyes
Ding ding ding! Bell. 1982.
Carson Howard
Also why the fuck would a kike put across this line of argument, I thought kike's were money hungry capitalists in your head?
Parker Russell
>competing
kys
Isaiah Lee
>competing
Evan Torres
Hilti master race reporting in..
Aiden Jones
>monopoly = not a monopoly
I WIN ALL THE ARGUMENTZ
Ryder Robinson
communists detected
leaf
Easton Martin
I get what you're saying and stuff like this and the OP bug me, but its not a monopoly so there's nothing really to do about it.
I think a better example of what you're getting at is cable/internet providers locking down whole sections of a city with just one or two options that both suck.
Alexander Scott
They have a good selection from commercial construction to home users. As long is their selection stays good no issue with me. Guessing they don't own Milwaukee.
William Rogers
>If you are the only producer stocking in x, y, or z city/state/country
>implying that ever happens
nice shitpost kike
Owen Phillips
The first time I used a Hilti gun I fell in love.
Brandon Long
They got Craftsman from the group that owns Milwaukee earlier this year, so be careful lol
Matthew Flores
True, internet providers are probably a better example. But even so, see - you don't need to have an absolute monopoly to have am effective monopoly. Consider large supermarkets that are the only place tens of thousands of people in some communities can go to shop for food. Particularly when you consider the constriction that cost plays; you can corner a market in terms of an income bracket too. The process is only developing faster and faster, too - this is only the beginning of what could come to be.
Angel Hill
They are non existent ere m8
But, monopolies are bad, yes.. But it should be solved by the market, not by regulation. It's a complex situation regardless.
Henry Cox
Pretty good game, makes family gatherings positively murderous.
More seriously ideally they shouldn't be allowed to exist, but as points out they are an almost inevitable consequence of capatalist industries.
The true free market doesn't exist. It's a bit like talking to baby anarchists who think that by abolishing all government eveyone will sort things out, Except groups/governments/companies tend to consolidate power after a certain period of tme and form hierarchies of power.
only possible via collusion with the state giving them bullshit legal protection normal people cant hide behind and regulations designed to fuck over smaller competetors
Thomas Davis
Found the AvE subscriber
William White
dewalt is junk
Eli Moore
my father said the same when i told him earlier this morning lol
Christopher King
Dewalt belongs to Stanley that belongs to B&D lol
Aaron Rivera
No monopoly has ever existed without some form of state intervention to allow it, be it subsidies or otherwise.
Fine me ONE historical example to the contrary, if you can.
>statists btfo yet again
Jacob Edwards
dewalt is ok; not great, but not black and decker garbage. when black and decker bought them years ago I thought they'd slide in quality, but not so far.
when I was younger I bought a few black and decker things. most sucked or broke in the most inexcusable ways. never again.
Charles Cox
t. never held a tool
Oliver White
>being anarchist
*tips fedora
Jayden Smith
I've been buying Hitachi stuff for a while and it's all been good to me
Tyler Williams
It's pretty fun to play, but it can take forever to finish. Always try to get the railroads
Michael King
>TimeWarner
Wrong they let that shit through after public outrage died down because "fuck drumpf!" Is more important. I know personally because they are now called Spectrum and provide my internet.
Angel Mitchell
Pepsi has no business running yum! entirely.
Hunter Parker
>Snap on >Mac tools offers the same thing for less
Get bent
Elijah Sanchez
This. Also you should never build hotels, but instead keep 4 houses on your properties so that there is a shortage.
Benjamin Morgan
>Mac Tools belong to B&D
Cameron Foster
>t. Mac door to door salesman
Carson White
So it's even dumber to buy Snap on since they're the same company, thanks for helping to prove my point.
And they are all owned by china. We can't even build america with our own tools anymore.
Adam Price
You can't hold a monopoly under capitalism. (((Capitalism))) on the other hand is a different story.
Nathan Wright
Buy german or jap tools. They better.
Carson Gray
Natural monopolies like this are ok. They're based on the superiority of one brand, and if that brand stops meeting the needs of its customers or becomes too pricey, another brand can easily appear to compete with it. As long as consumers are being served in the best way, it's fine.
The issue with monopolies comes when they artificially control the market, usually with the help of legislation or regulations. A cable provider being the only one permitted to serve an area is an example of a bad monopoly, because it doesn't matter if they offer a shitty or overpriced product, you're stuck with them and no one is allowed to compete.
Mason Martin
Probably the best filename I've seen in a while
Josiah Richardson
Google, PayPal, and eBay were all monopolies at some point (probably still are desu)
Lucas Perez
all those brands are synonymous with cheap chinesium shit, and have been for a while. Makita till I die.
Brayden Stewart
>never provides evidence of his own claims >uses memes as a form of counter argument
Just shut the fuck up before you make yourself look any dumber
Christopher Myers
>implying I have to prove a negative
nice shitpost kike
Nathan Jackson
I would buy an Irwin product over SBD every time. If their quality suffers I'd be unhappy.
Easton Taylor
If you buy black and decker, ryobi or Dewalt tools you're a pleb.