I'm genuinely curious, how are millennials in the states not in an uproar about social security?

I'm genuinely curious, how are millennials in the states not in an uproar about social security?

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Because they worship FDR like he's the second coming of Jesus.

>millennials
>caring about anything except the new iPhone

We're all expecting to die in the streets well before retirement because of automation taking over all the jobs. So we just smoke meth every day and wait for the end.

This is actually a legitimate answer. There's no guarantee on the fully 100% automated future you're talking about, but your thinking is a bit flawed. I'd be more upset because of that possibility, by the time your job is fully automated you wont have a cent of any social security to give you a hand. Besides, social security is supposed to help people out in those exact situations, am I wrong?

>because of automation taking over all the jobs

There are a hell of a lot more reasons for shit to hit the fan than all of us getting basic incomes.

Who gives a shit about the poor that depend on social security? Save your own money for retirement. It's not that hard to setup an IRA.

That's not even the point. You're forced to pay for something that neither you or your peers will ever see the fruit of, you're quite literally being robbed. If there was an actual pay out for SOMEONE in the end it would be another story. Your money is going to administrative overhead and disappears. Besides, in the 1960's the Supreme Court ruled that entitlement to Social Security benefits is not a contractual right

Because the majority of them don't think that far ahead. If they were capable of planning things they wouldn't be in debt up to their fucking eyeballs.

sorry forgot to add, even with the federal government taking money out of the social security fund and paying back with interest it's projected to exhaust in 2033. Nothing can save it.

WHY ARE YOU NOT UPSET THAT YOU'RE STILL FUCKING PAYING IT

Christ

>millennials
>uproar
Do they ever stop uproaring ? the most tedious, self obsessed mouthy generation since the boomers.

Kind of what i'm getting at, they're in an uproar about inane and trite bullshit. But when it comes to something actually disconcerting like social security, everyone is silent.

Are they ignoring it because it makes FDR look bad? Or are they legitimately so uninformed, oblivious, and naive that they don't know? I mean, don't they look at their pay stubs? Don't you look at whats being deducted? If you see on your paystub wouldn't you say oh im paying into this thing called social security I should read up on it, look into what i'm entitled to?

Meh. Maybe the government will have to raise taxes some time in the future; maybe it won't. Either way there are more immediate problems to worry about - good jobs are hard to find.

Besides, we're not under any obligation to pay off the government's debt. Nor will our children be, nor their children, nor any future generation.

I have 0 expectation of owning a house.
I want a decent job and security in that job, and I'd like to live modestly in a small-to-medium sized apartment and save money my whole life

>basic income

Nobody owes you anything,

I plan on drinking away every cent of my universal basic income, every day of the week. I will piss, shit, and puke on myself due to severe inebriation, every hour of every day. This is the only way to kill the pain. Life is beautiful.

...do you even understand what I'm saying?

>a fucking leaf

You're not gonna get (((basic income))) so just stop it.

It's already in the works here you complete retard. How else are the drones going to survive without their menial labour?

You're not the brightest knife in the drawer, are you?

If people allowed obamacare to happen and Trump still allows pre-existing conditions to be covered then I'm pretty sure we're on track to getting basic income down the road.

I dunno man. It's a myth that it's ever going to run out though. It's literally not possible without the $ ending, which means the country and probably the world is ending. So it is the absolute least of my concerns.

>Giving away money that the government doesn't have.

And I'm the retard?

>renting instead of buying
>saving money

>Giving away money that the government doesn't have.

What in the FUCK are you fucking talking about?

Millennial think social security is just free retirement. They thought Obamacare was free insurance ffs

>We're all expecting to die in the streets well before retirement because of automation taking over all the jobs.

Nah. The moment middle class people lose their jobs to robots, the markets are gonna tank. If spending dies, because the largest class of people, including poor low skilled workers, can't afford the shit they used to buy.

Automation is bad business if you got no one to sell your products and services to. Also, you can't just abandon the middle class, unless you want a new communist era.

Either prices will tank like fuck, or basic income will become a reality.

the government could literally tax all the money i have

and they would lose money

I know of people here who are bragging that they have received pension for a longer time than they were working but they don't seem to understand that this could possibly become a problem. Well then again they wouldn't care because they are probably long dead when the system really crashes.

You can't just give away money to people who do produce anything, what's the benefit of that?

I think you're actually fucking stupid.

Okay so lets say 5 million people in canada get 20 grand a year from the gov for basic income.

100 Billion a year seems like an awful burden..

The way social security was set up is a legitimate problem so of course they don't care about it. They only care about bullshit like income inequality, muh 1%, and the racial tensions that they actively make worse.

Grandparents collect the social security retirement checks and pass down the wealth when they die, so it's not that big of a deal. The money still comes back in some form to a lot of people through parents and grandparents. It's not great, but it's not completely fucked like you are saying.

>Grandparents collect the social security retirement checks and pass down the wealth when they die

well, it doesn't quite work out as smoothly as you're trying to make it seem.

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take a read, it's just the facts and there's no commentary what so ever. Just cold, hard, unforgiving facts.

heeelll yeaa bro can't wait to get infinite free money from the government and never have to work again, then fall into nihilistic depression and kill myself

just kidddddding my dude I'll study math and write poetry! That will fulfill me more than pursuing a career and providing for myself and my family ever would have

utopia totally isn't hell in disguise. it's awesome!

can't wait

seriously

so excited

>grandparents
>implying PoC know who their fathers are
>implying their grandparents arent in their 30s

Millennials are going to be broke as shit when they hit 50.

Lol nice argument stormweiner.

Do you think we'll just wake up one day, and robots have replaced us all overnight? There's an economic hurt point completely inherent to automation, after which further automation will hurt profit of the very same companies that replaced human resources with robots. This is of course on the assumption that the "jobs lost to robots" outweighs the "jobs created due to new professions emerging", which has generally not been true ever in the history of mankind.

I didn't mention "infinite free money", where the fuck did you get that from? The point is that if markets stagnate due to legit income inequality, as caused by unemployment, the only sensible option is to redistribute wealth.

This is coming from a right-libertarian. The ultimate end-game of a free capitalist society is communism in its truest form: an abundance of goods so cheap that labor is practically not a necessity.

Of course, such a situation is completely hypothetical, and there's a certain chance that technophobic socialists will ban robots, or at the very least, heavily tax them, in an attempt to keep the status quo.

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Any time you try, the globalist whiteknights come out of the woodwork and throw around buzzwords about entitlement.