Nazi vs Fascism

Why does Sup Forums praise National Socialism but hate Fascism? I know they aren't the same but wasn't Hitler really inspired by Fascism?

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NatSocs Sup Forumsacks don't hate fascists

What is the sticks bundled together with the ax blade called?

We don't, nigga.

A faggot

fasces/faggot

Fascism>NatSoc

Fascism doesn't hate jews enough so doesn't meet the edgy contrarian quotnant

Fascio i think

>Why does Sup Forums praise National Socialism but hate Fascism
Is this a thing? I'm pretty sure Sup Forums likes both, NatSoc is just a specific brand of fascism, like how Communism is a brand of Socialism. There are some civic nationalists fascists on here, some racialists fascists, some fascists who hate Hitler but love other fascist leaders, and some who only love Hitler and believe all the others to be inferior.

National socialism is the cause, Fascism is the effect. The effect can always be changed by those in power.

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>Fascio
You're right.

also check them digits.

> Sup Forums likes both
ok then why does Sup Forums hate other fascists or anybody being a closet fascist like antifa?

Why is the definition of fascism so hard to nail down? Why do academics disagree?

Isn't it really because in the wake of WW2 we had to create an ideology that would match the "bad" guys we had just fought? There wasn't a lot of similarity between Italy, Spain, or Germany other than cults of personality.

fascism is militarized nazism.

Literally what? Nice divide and conquer.

>Why does Sup Forums praise National Socialism but hate Fascism?
Huh? Since when did we hate fascism?

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The reason they hate facism is because they are mostly traditionalists with 1950s-esque values

>Why is the definition of fascism so hard to nail down?
the name has been used for way to many "bad" things to ever be given a universal definition

Fascio is just the Italian word for fasces.
It can also be translated as league because there were many groups calling themselves leagues before the national fascist party started.

>Fascio

They're the fasces lictorii, they symbolized power in Ancient Rome.

>other fascists
fascist means a little more than "someone with authoritarian political views", or "someone I don't like"

More specifically the power of the consul.

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>anybody being a closet fascist like antifa?

Antifa aren't closet fascists. People just call them fascists because they're working with the defintion that antifa uses.

isnt one of the only few things agreed upon for a definition of fascism absolute authority?

does antifa even have a definition for fascism?
antifas definition: pic related

Antifa's definition is literally anybody who disagrees with them.

Authoritarians man. They hate anyone that isn't themselves.

>hate Fascism
Stop projecting, commie.

I never understood this whole pronoun business. Why the fuck does the individual care what pronouns people use? You never use the pronoun when you're speaking to the individual, you use their name.

>lol Sup Forums why are you hitting yourself?

heh, penal power

I thought Franco was a fascist?

He was. But he didn't start the Falangist movement.

Because they want to control how you act even outside of their presence.

Daily remainder that fascism began with those "non white" italians you nordcucks hate so much.

>Stop projecting, commie.
>Why does Sup Forums praise National Socialism but hate Fascism?
ya that makes sense i think

is fascism just an entangling of the private market with a strong, nationalistic state (corporatism)?

pls help me understand

remember who you're talking about.

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There is a tacit acknowledgement that only facism could force a return to traditionalism in the modern political environment

Yes, it is from the same vein as capitalism.

I really wish we'd stop going back to Hitler. That's what the leftists want us to do so they can prove we're all evil

We should focus more on Pinochet seeing as he was an example of a modern facist success story and his helicopters are just as memeworthy

Whenever I try to read about Fascism the info just devolves into info about Nazis. This seems inappropriate. What are some key differences?

Any kind of extremes are just fucking stupid. Whether communism, capitalism, fascism, liberalism, ismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismism.

A faggot. It is the ancient symbol of Homo-Fascism.

You obviously don't know what your talking about.
Fuck off back to T_D before declaring Sup Forums's sentiments.

Feces, symbol of power.

fuck off nazi, you dont belong here

Fascism is explecitely pro-christian (pro-catholic, I don't know any other instance).

While national socialism was plagued with the german misfortune of the protestant reformation, which meant that the unification on grounds of faith was almost impossible and meant that it drifted into a more materialistic, biological, often morally confused direction.

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Franco betrayed the National Syndicalist cause of the Falange

Fascism promotes multiracialism.

National Socialism promotes national identity and the uplifting of all nations by their own people and not foreign financiers or aid.

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Fasces and your country is literally filled with those symbols.

How have you never noticed?

>firefighters are all fascist
We've done literally nothing wrong, fuck these faggots.

This has to be fake.

firefighters? that seems weird

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Pretty sure a Sup Forumslock has gain control of it.

We try to help our community. That's wrong by them

HAHA FAGGOTS

OP.

I don't like calling myself a NatSoc because I don't agree with socialism, it seems that most retarded Antifa member or "Revolutionist" likes socialism. It's just a bad Ideology. Is there a thing such as NatCap?

i hate how i laughed at that

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The thing that never gets brought up is that "corporatism" , which is the CORE part of Scandinavian labour relations origionates from Fascism, and Fascist thinkers.

So every time somebody brings up how awesome it is to work in Scandinavia, remember it's because the executed a fascist methodology and not a Socialist one.

Fascism means the union of individual sticks into a fasces so it cannot be as easily broken as an individual stick.

National Socialists destroy all parties, all ideologies, all classes, all status, and implement a Folk State, a nation of folk only, no chains of ideology, only the folks dreams interests and aspirations.

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This is frequently misunderstood. "Socialism" as a system is shit, and never works (because it ignores human nature).

But "social programs" are important. A successful state cant just be all one ideology. The Nazi knew this - the base was strong central authority and state-linked business, but they also needed to provide for the people (healthcare, education, infrastructure). Contrary to what many in the US believe, this is not an untenable position- as long as the people being provided for are unified and productive.

The issue in the US is, the system is overloaded by morons and darkies, who DONT contribute, but DO degrade the culture. A successful and powerful American culture would be homogenous, and have a decent "socialist" (not "Socialist") streak - e.g. if America was still 85-90% white, we would have Single Payer Healthcare yesterday.

This is our national governments aspiration and goal.
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Family, work, Nation, God.

These are our key tenants.

>Firefighters
Wew
You have two of those in your Senate since the US wants to be the Roman Empire

Alone we may be weak, but together we make a big and mighty faggot!

>National Socialism but hate Fascism

It's usually the other way around. Fascism is based.

I see no reason why Fascists would hate National Socialists or vise versa we are both Fascists who believe in family, the peoples happiness, nation etc..

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you got that image in 1920X1080

that's a good wallpaper.

Orania looks like paradise

We need nothing or anyone that is not white.
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The political/ideological spectrum is a circle, not a straight line.

On the far left you have communism and on the far right you have fascism -- on paper these are completely conflicting ideologies but in practice the result is the same: an over-reaching government which sticks its nose into every facet of your life, dictating what you can do, when you can do it, who you can associate with, what you can say, etc.

This is why I say the spectrum is a circle: lean too far to either side and you end up in the same exact spot.

>wasn't Hitler really inspired by Fascism?

Hitler was a pawn propped up and then torn down by the Industrialists.
I expect Trump will turn out to be the same.

Because of Hitler, Israel was created and populated with fleeing Jews.

These people are 10 steps ahead of you.

Horse Shoe, get out

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Wrong, National Socialism has no ideology, it has only folk, peoples dreams, peoples aspirations, there is no chains of ideology.

faeces

Horseshoe theory is just the fence-sitter's justification for inaction.

Doesn't Nazism borrow elements from both socialism and fascism? Like from the cultural ideologues of fascism (nation over the individual) and the social aspects of socialism (welfare). Also what is the exact difference between fascism and nationalism? I think I'm talking out of my ass here but these always seemed like the driving forces in nazism.

National Socialism is giving power to the people without causing a dominance or a fracture of basic natural rights.

It's also for Ancaps and libertarians who see one shared aspect between 2 ideologies, and think that they must be exactly the same.

What do you mean by dominance and fracture of rights?

You guys can peddle your horseshoe meme all you want but I dare you to spot the difference between Mussolini's Italy and Stalin's Russia. They are the same thing.

>firefighters

Dominance, overwhelming power an invidividual holds over the lives of others, fracture of the rights of peoples rights to own property.

One had tons of pasta, the other has hunger
One did it for the rebirth of the nation, the other because "Muh equality"