Change of plans. We're not invading Tuvalu. Meet Bir Tawil, an uninhabited 2,060 square km slab of land between Sudan and Egypt. To make matters even better, it's claimed by neither country. The only claimants are individuals trying to make their own country. We on the other hand are a group, and thus have more power to take the land under our sovereignty.
If we take this land, we will have our own country larger than Tuvalu (even better since Bir Tawil is yet to be populated so no native resistance.)
Is it finally time to take land in the name of Kek?
I'd rather form a country on Antarctica then live anywhere near Africa.
Easton Clark
Hol up hold up...iz yoy saying we can be kangz?
Jacob Russell
>in the desert between Egypt and Sudan Ehh... You're going to get a bunch of retards killed.
Cameron Foster
>a bunch of autistic nerd virgins are going to start a country without their mommy there to give them tendies
Luke Clark
Would you faggots quit with this shit? You cannot seriously think a bunch of NEET anime addicts are all going to up and leave to make a new country without finding out a way to all end up dead.
Ryder Diaz
>colonize bone dry desert with no water sources Why?
Andrew Peterson
No woman? Lol no
Dylan Barnes
Previous thread
Zachary Gray
>a bunch of autistic nerd virgins don't have the capacity for forward thinking required to make nationhood a success >a typecast of people who obsessively think ahead to their own detriment
Protip: private islands cost less than houses and are even often quite affordable. Beside crowdsourcing the purchase, it would also be possible for an enterprising individual to buy the island and get actual professionals to work there for low wages but free land ownership. With basic amenities installed, the rest of Sup Forums can be invited because they'll still pay to use the amenities, thus generating profit and more than making up the price of the island and workers.
Jayden Watson
>starting with an intention to break off >ancap Just create a community with controlled borders within a country. Internationally it could function like a state of that country.
That is one of the worst possible places in the world to form a country
Like... ever
Pick somewhere in South or Central America (as far from the native population as possible) or Southeast Asia to move to so nobody will worry about us
Then we start businesses and shit and make it a great place
Cooper Nguyen
There are several Micronationalist who also have their fantasy claim in Bir Tawil. I suggest building a community in the US and form a legal municipality.
Robert Campbell
>getting water in a bone dry desert is easy
Owen Diaz
If you're going to keep milking this unfunny sargon meme, the least you could do is change the name to something less sandniggery.
Noah Cook
This is actually a better idea
Somewhere in rural Utah or Idaho or Nebraska or Wyoming or some better place and turn it into a Sup Forums paradise
Landon Sanchez
Nobody's claimed Bir Tawil because it's a fucking hellscape. It's literally miles and miles of sand
Gavin Phillips
>private islands
I am experienced in infrastructure/plumbing/pipefitting. Would certainly do work for free land on island. Also decent at carpentry, but would need a foreman (experienced help) for that.
Island home would be delightful. As an added bonus my hobby is reefkeeping and I could make great use of free water and livestock.
Jaxon Kelly
this. noone wants it, not even niggers.
James Ward
Never going to work you're never going to get a bunch of retards to literally uproot and move somewhere like that.
I pity the people who actually put money into this, if anyone does. If you're thinking of that be aware of how dumb this idea is before risking it.
Jayden Bailey
>unfunny sargon meme Kekistan was around before it was picked up by Sargon. >change the name to something less sandniggery Pic related.
Utah already is a Sup Forums paradise Alas we are full Autists are going to have to fuck off.
Christian Barnes
Isla San Pedro privateislandsonline.com/islands/isla-san-pedro >16000 acres (6474.97 HA) >Price upon request >Partially developed >Chile island >Has farms and evergreen forests >Possible resort potential
Brayden Williams
Samung Island privateislandsonline.com/islands/samung-island >98.84 acres (40 HA) >$280,000 >Non-developed >Philippines island >24 HA agricultural land >fresh water sources >Fish and coconut trees >White sand beaches, may have resort potential
Ian Russell
Utopia requires important things like water.
Jacob Allen
General Plan (Not a detailed plan) >buy island >build small encampment on the island >import most food and supplies for the first 1-2 years while we build infrastructure >figure out how to make it prosperous, work out the kinks >successfully make community economically stable >successfully make community profitable >recruit intelligent right wingers to increase island populations >get more profits
How to pay for the island >crowd funding >generous donations from rich user or celebrity
Information we need before buying the island >geological survey to get more information about soil fertility and water tables >get a detailed understanding of the climate >learn more about the nearby volcano >learn about local flora and fauna
Commodities produced on the island >food in order to feed the population >virtual commodities such as apps and alternate news sites for island revenue
Lincoln Ward
Currency and Economy >economy may function on a simple barter system in the early stages >internal currency should be backed by bitcoins >no gold or silver on the island until we get better security >island should have an entity that converts bitcoins and the island currency to the local currency >population will trade goods using currency, not a pure socialist system >currency will be an incentive to produce food or virtual commodities >island revenue will purchase commodities that the island can't produce, such as clothes, ammo, and luxury goods
Power and Internet Capabilities >solar power with battery storage in houses >backup generator with fuel supplies on the island >stable server with a decent internet connection, probably satellite or cable >the main technology and parts for these will be imported >at least 10-20% of the population must know basic maintenance for these machines
General Food Characteristics >agricultural and livestock farming must be able to sustain over 60% of the current population >ideally, agricultural and livestock farming will sustain over 100% of the current population >livestock feed must be produced on the island >crops and livestock should be space efficient and compatible with the island climate >crop rotation and livestock manure to make sure that the soil stays fertile
Farming >traditional agricultural farming >main livestock will be chickens >other livestock can be goats, pigs, or ducks, depending on the island location and characteristics >aquaponics and salmon farming have high expertise and supply requirements, will not exist in the early stages
Eli Sanders
Water >look for clean water sources, such as small freshwater lakes >dig wells >agriculture will be irrigated by rainfall >all rain water collection tanks should have a way to stop mosquito breeding, such as a screen on the top of the tank
Shelter >majority of early housing should be mass produced and stable >container housing seems like a good idea >need a way to insulate the housing
Medical >islanders need to learn basic first aid >island needs to be well stocked on first aid supplies, medicine >go to the mainland for doctors until we can convince a doctor to live on the island
Security >security measures will abide by local laws, so our island must be from a country that allows guns >start with gun-owning anons, such as /k/ommandos
Settlers >start out with Sup Forumsacks that have farming and maintenance experience >expand out to other intelligent right wingers once we figure out the society and build basic infrastructure >make sure immigrants can fit into a resource generating role before being accepted >no theft or violent crime on criminal record >no people with serious mental illnesses (if they can’t live without their pills, they can’t be on the island) >no people with drug addictions, smokers are an exception if they can maintain a supply of nicotine >no muslims until the society becomes stable >no extremist muslims
Daniel Russell
If you actually wanted to populate this barren desert you'd have to ship in pre-built homes equipped with solar power and possibly wind power for AC and lighting so you wouldn't die immediately.
Then you'd need an osmosis water processing plant and either a pipeline from the ocean or "water runners" to retriever water from the coastline, which requires either gasoline or camels or something similar.
And that doesn't cover food. There's nothing to hunt, so you'd need arrive with a surplus of canned food to subsist on while setting up greenhouses and climate controlled farms using your aforementioned solar power.
All in all you'd need a shit ton of money. I would still be sort of interested if the money could be procured, if there was any guarantee whatsoever that you'd actually be granted sovereignty and not be raided by a bunch of hoard of literal sandnigger bandits.
Star mypetchicken.com/chicken-breeds/Star-B102.aspx >hybrid sex-link chickens (males and females look different at birth) >lays 5 brown eggs per week >6-7 lb >hardy in winter >bears confinement well >docile but rugged personality >not broody
Leghorn mypetchicken.com/chicken-breeds/Leghorn-White-B65.aspx >non-hybrid >lays 4 white, extra large eggs per week >6-7lb >hardy in winter >bears confinement well >not docile, active and intelligent personality >not broody
Ayden Cook
oh my fucking hell, invade shitstania. Really that's your plan? Your going to get raped, beheaded and raped again; in that order.
What the hell, this is cheaper than a medium sized house in a crappy neighborhood
Wyatt Young
>clean water sources You'd have to make sure they're really, really clean, and you'd have to keep them free of waste or contaminated runoff.
John White
>Philippines There was a Canadian beheaded in the Philippines not too long ago.
Jacob Morales
So you are saying we won't die virgins?
I'm in.
Jaxson Davis
NEETs.
Yes, you could form a 'community' on an Island, but you'll be subject to that nation's laws - hacking will still land the FBI on your doorstep, for instance.
With an artificial island beyond territorial waters you'd need to be far enough from the respectable gentlemen of Somalia, and be able to protect your Island if some other LARPers decide to lay claim to it.
Bir Tawil is fair game, if not in a super hostile environment (both climate + culture), and you must be able to defend it at all times of the year. But it's possible, just don't piss off either of your Arabic neighbours.
Underwater sea base. Floating sky base - oh tell me, why do we built castles in the sky?
Xavier Reed
we also have to develop a giant nuclear launching capable robot to flex our national defense in outer heaven
Jayden Powell
Because the area is dangerous as shit.
Austin Perez
Yes, exactly. There are several other islands that also fit the bill in the same way.
Joseph Peterson
Was he riding the bus?
Luis Collins
If the water isn't clean enough, we'll need a water filtration or purification system.
Mason Walker
autism
Julian James
Saying that, I'd still be up for co-owning an Island, count me in.
Matthew Diaz
nigger 100 acres is nothing
Adrian Robinson
>>no muslims until the society becomes stable >no muslims until the society becomes stable>no muslims until the society becomes stable>no muslims until the society becomes stable>no muslims until the society becomes stable>no muslims until the society becomes stable>no muslims until the society becomes stable>no muslims until the society becomes stable>no muslims until the society becomes stable>no muslims until the society becomes stable>no muslims until the society becomes stable>no muslims until the society becomes stable>no muslims until the society becomes stable>no muslims until the society becomes stable>no muslims until the society becomes stable>no muslims until the society becomes stable
FUCKING MAKE A NATION OF KEK TO LET IN MUSLIMS OVER TIME, LITERALLY HANG ME NOW
SUBVERSION IS REAL
Sup Forums IS DEAD
Ryder Ramirez
Bear Grylls
Lucas Miller
>Surround yourself by niggers - great idea.
This.
Better location. No one lives there. I know. I've been there.
Adam Jones
We'd need good security.
Jackson Harris
>shitposts on a board of autistic neets >expects anything other than autism
Michael Mitchell
Also, not bought into "Kekistan" as a name. /pol can certainly do better than that.
Asher Nelson
>declaring independence from USA death sentence desu
Evan Robinson
>landlocked desert region >between two shitty counties in North Africa
No water and bad location, kys user
Levi Wood
The Not-Divided Kingdom Of Kek.
Jackson Richardson
there's a reason no real country bothers with this land... if you want to settle there you'll need to be bsnkrolled by someone that can ship in resources. barely "independent" at that point.
Colton Sullivan
There's a reason why neither Sudan nor Egypt claims it. It's a shitty uninhabited desert.
Landon Turner
There'll likely be water under the sand. But bad location indeed.
Ryan Morris
>implying all muslims aren't extremists
Ayden Watson
>inb4 ISIS kicks our ass
Wyatt Baker
Yeah right. As much as I despise the UP, northern michiganders don't Fuck around. Every household in that highlighted area is well armed. Good luck taking Michigan over faggot.
Austin Gray
We ain't the fucking fremen, nobody is going to live in the middle of the fucking Sahara.
Xavier Nguyen
exactly, with the island you need to build an offshore rig, or base, that has secret defensive capabilities for the island , an amphibious robot
Jaxson Lopez
location
location
location
island's in the middle of lawless Filipino death trap
Levi Howard
No muslims ever at all. How fucking stupid would we have to be to start our own nation based on Sup Forums ideals and let in muslims? The only muslims in Sup Forumsand belong in ovens
Zachary Garcia
let's just take antarctica. it will be paradise in 100 years. and the continent is slowly moving to the tropics.
>However, due to the remoteness and hostile climate of the region, the vast majority of these claims have been by declarations posted online from other locations.
good luck
Josiah Smith
Who will be president?
Nicholas Carter
>Yeah right. As much as I despise the UP, northern michiganders don't Fuck around. Every household in that highlighted area is well armed. Good luck taking Michigan over faggot.
Less taxes = they'll go along with it. I fucking live there, you retard.
Ayden Gomez
If we are a principality, we need a prince... And if we have a prince, that means we'll need knights as well
Ayden Flores
Knights of the realm. Does that mean we'll be officially weaponising the autism?
Ha nice. Best of luck OP. I'm sure you will be just as successful as the previous times pol has set about making it's own country.
Benjamin James
This plan could actually work.
Benjamin Davis
But the problem with islands is that they're usually claimed. You have to declare independence which means fighting a war.
Jaxon Price
Now I thought your island ideas were fucking retarded but this on the other hand is not has retarded but is still pretty retarded.
Kayden Garcia
Yeah right. Northern Michigan are patriotic Republicans faggot
Christian Hill
This. Greenland or something
Liam Nelson
In all seriousness. We could create a desert base in Bir Tawil, with underground water supply, etc.
The question is money, and influence. I've some money, but no influence. *passes the hat*.
Also, preventing incest and rampant spergery from running amok about the country.
Ryan Williams
An island is more doable than a fucking desert wasteland in a nigger country.
Thomas Perry
who is this beauty
John Morales
yeah much better idea.
>turns out we are the ideological subversives that must be sent to iceland to live our days far from the main organism of the nwo.
if pol gets there fast it may not even get cucked.
Wyatt Cook
Settlers >start out with Sup Forumsacks that have farming and maintenance experience >expand out to other intelligent right wingers once we figure out the society and build basic infrastructure >make sure immigrants can fit into a resource generating role before being accepted >no theft or violent crime on criminal record >no people with serious mental illnesses (if they can’t live without their pills, they can’t be on the island) >no people with drug addictions, smokers are an exception if they can maintain a supply of nicotine >no muslims
Caleb Campbell
>blocking the suez for what purpose
Sebastian Fisher
There is literally nothing of value there.
All you could do is use solar power to mine the place or use solar power to terraform the area into something useful possibly.
