/Islam/ - Islam General: Decent OP Edition

Welcome to /Islam/! This thread is dedicated to discussion of the religion of Islam.

Islam is more than just a religion, however, it’s a way of life; one which guides the personal, political actions of believers. Islam even has its own legal code.

This thread's topic is about the WIP FAQ. What common questions about should be included? How should the FAQ be structured? Any and all constructive feedback is appreciated.

Resources:

>The basics of Islam
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>FAQ
Coming Soon!

>Sup Forumsack Convert Testimonies
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>Videos
pastebin.com/geeBhp3e

Essential Links:

>The Hadith of the Prophet Muhammad
sunnah.com/

>Read and listen to the Quran online
quran.com

>Biography of the Prophet Muhammad
inter-islam.org/Seerah/

>Islamic site with everything you need
al-islam.org/

>Find a mosque and convert today!
islamicfinder.org/

OP template:
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Other urls found in this thread:

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I'm going to be tripping for a little while while I assemble and refine the pastebins.

However, welcome to /Islam/, with a much improved OP!

Also, if there are any other converts to Islam here, please share your story, and leave a name that I can refer to you as in the pastebin.

cool post bro

>The flight that saved Turkey

The west must wake up and realize that Islam is the one and only truth.

FUCK ISLAM:
1. In Islam, there is subjugation of women.
2. In Islam, Women are beaten.
3. In Islam, people leaving Islam are killed.
4. In Islam, slaves are legal.
5. In Islam, pedophilia is allowed. Aisha was 9.
6. In Islam, the "profit" changed what was said.
7. In Islam, lying is not a sin. "Allah" is best liar.
8. In Islam, drawing Muhammed is verboten.

Why do you pretend to be a Muslimah?

1. Explain, I believe Islam's gender roles are sublime and promote equality.

2. Women are not beaten, men are allowed to lightly slap women in extreme circumstances, but are encouraged not to. Anything else is an explicit sin.

3. Leaving Islam is not punishable by death in the majority of Muslim countries, it is unfortunate that any do it. Textualism is cancer, circumstance is essential.

4. Slaves are not legal, Islam merely sets out laws for slavery. In Islam, slaves have certain fundamental rights.

5. Pedophilia is not allowed. The very lower limiy for sex is nine years of age, but it is encouraged that it be much higher. Most muslim nations have higher ages of consent that the European average.

6. The prophet did not change a thing, only those versus where Satan tricked the prophet are excluded from the Quran, and are discussed in the Sira.

7. Lying is indeed a grave sin, however, we trust that God is the best deceiver, just as He is greatest in all things.

8. Drawing the Prophet is disrespectful, but nothing beyond that. Terrorists who murder cartoonists are scum.

(You)

Sage

Forgot my trip

Allah is a pagan moon goddess

The name was taken from the chief God of the Meccan pantheon, but it also was the general term for a deity in Mecca at the time of Islam's founding.

Islam is degenerate and even Muslims here think so as well. It is an outdated barbaric religion that forces people either to convert or die. There can never be true integration with other religions when it comes to Islam.

Thank you for proving my points.

Explain

>nonarguement.txt

Sunan Abu Dawud 67—I heard that the people asked the Prophet of Allah: Water is brought for you from the well of Buda’ah. It is a well in which dead dogs, menstrual cloths and excrement of people are thrown. The Messenger of Allah replied: Verily water is pure and is not defiled by anything.

Sunan Ibn Majah 520—It was narrated that Jabir bin Abdullah said: “We came to a pond in which there was the carcass of a donkey, so we refrained from using the water until the Messenger of Allah came to us and said: ‘Water is not made impure by anything.’ Then we drank from it and gave it to our animals to drink, and we carried some with us.”

Sahih al-Bukhari 5782—Allah’s Messenger said, “If a fly falls in the vessel of any of you, let him dip all of it (into the vessel) and then throw it [i.e. the fly] away, for in one of its wings there is a disease and in the other there is healing (antidote for it) i.e. the treatment for that disease.”

Musnad Ahmad 16245—[Mua’wiya said]: I saw the prophet sucking on the tongue or the lips of Al-Hassan son of Ali, may the prayers of Allah be upon him. For no tongue or lips that the prophet sucked on will be tormented (by hell fire).

Sahih Muslim 3311—Aisha reported that Allah’s Apostle married her when she was seven years old, and she was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old.

Sunan Abu Dawud 2116—Aishah said: The Apostle of Allah married me when I was seven years old. (The narrator Sulaiman said: Or six years.) He had intercourse with me when I was nine years old.

>Water
Water was extremely scarce in the middle east at the time. It means more or less dont bite the hand that feeds you - if God has given you water when you would have none, do not scorn it.

>French Kissing
Arab culture has always been very intimate, The Prophet was asked to more or less French kiss someone and he later got in the habit of doing so as people began to seen it as a blessing.

>Aisha
Nine was common at the time, unfortunately, many people were bethrothed before birth. Humanity has progressed.

Your death cult will be destroyed within the next century.

Constant infighting and an aversion to knowledge outside of warfare thanks to Sharia will decimate your already shrinking population in the ME.

Your fighters attempting attacks in other nations will only galvanize more hatred towards your cause and violence against your people.

You are outnumbered, have no leadership, and many of your fighting aged men and women are dying in droves.

Islam has no future, you have dug your own grave without even realizing it.

If Islam is so great, why does it need violence against other people for them to follow it?

Demographic trends would suggest that population growth in Muslim nations will put Islam within a small margin of Christianity by the end of the century.

As far as terrorist attacks go, I hope people are galvanized against that kind of Islam, it will help our community improve.

It doesn't... No one coerced me to convert; I studied Islam - begrudgingly actually, and found that I couldnt deny it.

Assalamu alaikum. What country are you originally from?

Lol the damage control is real, here's another gem:

Sahih al-Bukhari 6982— . . . But after a few days Waraqa died and the Divine Revelation was also paused for a while and the Prophet became so sad as we have heard that he intended several times to throw himself from the tops of high mountains and everytime he went up to the top of a mountain in order to throw himself down, Jibril would appear before him and say, “O Muhammad! You are indeed Allah’s Messenger in truth”, whereupon his heart would become quiet and he would calm down and would return home. And whenever the period of the coming of the Revelation used to become long, he would do as before, but when he used to reach the top of a mountain, Jibril would appear before him and say to him what he had said before.

Your role model is literally a suicidal, unhygienic, disgusting pedophile who murdered and threatened everyone around him and at some point thought he was demon possessed.

Muhammad even admitted to "accidentally" bring revelation from Satan (which were later removed from the Qur'an), these are the infamous Satanic verses where Mohammad approved the seeking of counsel of the pagan gods (Al-Lat, Al-Manat, and al-Uzza) which were called the "elevated cranes".

Islam is trash son.. I bet you're just a bad troll tho

Here are my problems with Islam as a white man.

1) Won't Islam always favour Arabs over non Arabs due to it being Mohammed's ethnicity?
2) Why are Islamic countries such poor shitholes with really concentrated wealth distribution?
3) If islam was to achieve a global caliphate can't you see that would mean more war, not peace? Even if Sunni Islam was completely dominant, human nature combined with the teachings of Mohammed would almost certainly result in global nuclear war very quickly.

Memem argumjents, why are americans so dumb

Do not reply to Islamic propaganda
Do not tolerate Islamic sympathiser

You mean a small percentage of refugees attempting to flee the horrors of true Islam being practiced in the Middle East.

Out with your " not THAT kind of Islam" bullshittery. There is only one form of Islam and that is the convert or die, it is not a sin to kill an infidel version that your people have practiced for the last 2000+ years, spare me the Taquiiya you miserable roach.

The US. I grew up mostly in the far north of California, aka Jefferson.

Mohammed was only a man, he was deceived by Satan, the most powerful being besides God himself. The Satanic verses serve as a good lesson as to the need for skepticism and restraint desu.

when the time will come, and it will come, we will make sure to make the white europeans converted to islam suffer a lot, like we did in France after WWII, those who collaborated were shorn and humiliated to make sure that they will never betray our countries again, sadly they were wrong at that time, but we're not wrong about islam, and after the storm, we will make sure that no white european ever convert to islam again

DO NOT REPLY TO THIS POST !!!! DO NOT REACT !!!

>acting like islam is some centralized death cult bent on your destruction
m.youtube.com/watch?v=PXM6ZHAOQ6g
Islam is everywhere dude
Unfortunately the kharajite isis wahhabis(pawns of the west) will make life for the average muslim difficult until the end times

America is imploding spectacularly and alienating it's allies en masse.

Good luck corralling other nations with your autistic screeching, burger.

Reply to my post you muslim fuck

alaicum

Is this image of Muhumut allowed here?

>2. Women are not beaten, men are allowed to lightly slap women
Real men don't hit women.

>3. Leaving Islam is not punishable by death in the "majority" of Muslim countries
That it happens at all is detestable.
>4. Slaves are not legal, Islam merely sets out laws for slavery. In Islam, slaves have certain fundamental rights.
This relates to my point of subjugation. Slavery is wrong, but Islam preaches "Slavery Lite".
>5. Pedophilia is not allowed. The very lower limiy for sex is nine years of age
Contradiction.
>6. The prophet did not change a thing, only those versus where Satan tricked the prophet are excluded from the Quran, and are discussed in the Sira.
"He did not change anything, only excluded them". Why exclude something, but say you did not change it?
>7. Lying is indeed a grave sin, however, we trust that God is the best deceiver
That is exactly what I said, "Allah is best liar."
>8. Drawing the Prophet is disrespectful, but nothing beyond that. Terrorists who murder cartoonists are scum.
In other countries it is called freedom of speech and expression to insult ridiculous ideas.
I do agree those killing others and limiting their free speech are terrorists.

Much edge

You either convert or are forced to pay a "tax".

1. Arabism is a cancer, luckily as Arab nations' populations stagnate and other Muslim nations experience rapid growth, it is eroding.

2. Islamic nations arent poor shitholes to the one, in fact the richest nation on the planet is Islamic, Qatar. Resource economies do tend to be less, equal, but that is changing - the GINI coefficient of Arab nations at least continues to drop rapidly.

3. Humans will always fight, religious unity would only slightly aleviate that.

Islam is actually a much more theologically flexible religion than most. Islamic theology varies greatly.

terrifying army! That modern weaponry!!!!

(You)

Not a shill, I simply want to create a platform for discussion of Islam.

Wahhabism can be fought against, first the influence of Saudi Arabia must be lessened.

>Mohammed was only a man, he was deceived by Satan, the most powerful being besides God himself.

exactly, islam was created by a man, who was deceived by Satan, so islam DOESN'T EXIST YOU DIPSHIT, the foundation of islam itself was horrific, and the whole history of islam is horrific, and guess what ? it will NEVER change

you're a fucking converted, go tell an actual muslim that Muhammad was deceived by Satan and see the reaction

"muuhhhhhhhhh not real islam"

Yeah, this is not the real islam, because there is no real islam you idiot

Trash religion for trash people, why do you think it grows as countries decline? Why do you think prisons have so many converts.

Canada is taking in a tyrannical ideology that will eventually lead to destruction.
Case in point: Most of Europe.

>Mohammed was only a man
Yet you defend him as if he was God, and he is called the best "role model" for all mankind... A suicidal, sick, delusional, demon possessed murderer is the best model for all us? k

Also, the Qur'an actually calls Jesus "Ruh Allah" and "Kalimat Allah" which mean "The Spirit of God" and "The Word of God" respectively, attributing to him many miracles and being righteous.

Yet, Muhammad did none of these things, in fact lived completely opposite to Jesus, yet you should follow him instead?

According to the Qur'an Allah is weak, because he couldn't even defend his "greatest prophet" from being demon possessed and bringing revelation from Satan.

Muslims kiss the black stone, walk around the Kaaba and between the hills of Al-Safa and Al-Marwah, just like the Pagans before them did, yet you have the audacity to call Christians pagan? Muhammad literally inherited all the Pagan practices from Mecca and incorporated them to Islam.

Even the second caliph Omar Ibn al Khattab recognized the crap about the black stone:

"It was narrated that ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) came to the Black Stone and kissed it, then he said: “I know that you are only a stone which can neither bring benefit nor cause harm. Were it not that I had seen the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) kiss you, I would not have kissed you.”"
(Sahih Al-Bukhaari, 1520; Sahih Muslim, 1720)

Wake up bro

>1) Won't Islam always favour Arabs over non Arabs due to it being Mohammed's ethnicity?
Yes.
>2) Why are Islamic countries such poor shitholes with really concentrated wealth distribution?
Which ones are you specifically referring to?
>3) If islam was to achieve a global caliphate can't you see that would mean more war, not peace? Even if Sunni Islam was completely dominant, human nature combined with the teachings of Mohammed would almost certainly result in global nuclear war very quickly.
It depends on who could be caliph. You should take a look at the former caliphates where some were very successful but some were just going to fail right from the beginning. For example, before the Seljuk Turks took over, the Levant was relatively peaceful. Christian pilgrims were left alone because of how much money they brought in from tourism. The Turks started persecuting them and this lead to the crusades.

There are mudslims on Sup Forums like right now. Like unironically being muslims...

Why are you making fun of Isa? He is a prophet of Islam...

>our community
You chose evil. You may enjoy hollow success for a few years more, spreading this degenerate evil, but in your heart you will know you have chosen darkness and you will have to pay the price.

Sure, it's disrespectful, but dialogue, evennif edgy is the best way to deal with the issue.

>Real men dont hit women
Agreed.

>Apostates
Agreed, fucked that

>Islam preaches slavery lite
Explain

>Pedophilia
Christianity mandates no age of consent

>Exclude vs change
The Satanic verses are discussed in the Sira, they were exlcuded because Satan tricked the prophet.

>Lying
God is greatest at everything, that is the basis of Islam.

>Freedom of speech
Freedom of speech must be the law.

Yhe Jizya is not mandatory, and all Muslims must pay a tax as well.


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user why did the final religion need editing by goat fuckers?

Willing to put up a fight in spite of the jewish sanctions.

Here's a picture of Sweden Yes as a comparison.

I am at peace internally since choosing Islam.

Do you mind checking out the pastebins and giving some feedback?

They're taking a break from roleplaying as white natsoc posters like they have been every day for the past few years

A future convert here, is this what muahumuhut used to look like?

What is your revert story? Were you atheist before?

Or this one?

pastebin.com/gGXNG1jH

I put it in the pastebin. I was a typical barely Christian, Christian.

That picture might turn on some gays.

Thanks for responding.

1) I just can't ever see that being the case, if the god of a religion decided the perfect man was Swedish, then of course everyone who isn't Swedish can never be perfect.

2) What did Muhammad do with his wealth?

3) Wouldn't Christian religious unity achieve it better, being that Jesus wasn't a warlord?

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>1) Won't Islam always favour Arabs over non Arabs due to it being Mohammed's ethnicity?
Yes.

So why should I as a white man ever join a religion that will have my sons and daughters less valuable and 'imperfect' at birth until death.

Anyone else got a nudes of Aisha?

so much the worse for you. Most Muslims are victims or poor inbred degenerates. Intelligent people deliberately choosing this evil with calm conscience represent a rare extreme of human depravity.

>whenever the period of the coming of the Revelation used to become long, he would do as before, but when he used to reach the top of a mountain, Jibril would appear before him and say to him what he had said before.

Sounds like schizophrenia or some other mental disorder.

>(You)
because you thinkg i'm baiting ? you think "kill the traitors before your enemy" is a meme ? you think we're just LARping ? you think we're not deeply disgusted by your kind more than any other muslim ?

Well let me tell you, you're wrong, we will NEVER accept you, like most people, i hate jews and muslims, and i hate converted people more than i hate jews and muslims, Europe is pagan, atheist, and christian, any other religion will never belong to Europe, especially if it's the religion that cause us so many troubles

Let me ask you some questions, if an actual muslim come to talk to you about islam, will you have the same speech ? That Muhammad was deceived by Satan and that the foundation of islam was horrific ?

Because i strongly doubt that, i think you converted to islam because you fear muslims, and that making your own idea of what islam is is just an excuse for you to join the enemy's side, to muslims, you're not muslim, and to us, you're worst than a muslim

1. That is one way of thinking, one which is declining thankfully

2. Muhammad did charity, and utilized his wealth for good governance.

3. Idk, I believe Islam is the truth, but I hold no disrespect for Christians.

Aaaaaaaaaaand to the shitter with your shit religion.

>Islam is shit-tier religion bent on world domination

>Totalitarian socialist regime

>Caste system

>Even if sunni's get to rule the world there would be Shiaa and Sufis

>Islam is the black pill. The religion of nihilist parasites.


Sources : Muslims student, practitioner and been living in a muslim country for 30+ years.

Anything they might say about this religion is wrong, faulty and only in the goal to sudbue more people to their wishes ie. total control.

Neat. I was a practicing Catholic when I converted. What did your parents think?

>So why should I as a white man ever join a religion that will have my sons and daughters less valuable and 'imperfect' at birth until death.
We are all imperfect from birth until death. To answer your question about Arab egotism, I don't know what to tell you. It's just the way it is. Everything in Islam revolves around Arabic and Arabic culture. There's Asians and Africans that even try to emulate it (they're usually looked down upon in Muslim communities, though).

I like islam because of his love to doggos.
After all muamuhumut used to be dog lover.

>why should I as a white man ever join a religion
Oh and you'll probably have a hard time finding a wife since so much of Islam revolves around culture and essentially getting married is a joining of two families.

1) Prove to me that it's declining because I'm afraid I just don't believe you.

2) Again prove this is the case

3) Fair enough.

you cannot argue with mudshit pedo's.
They are subhuman. Just ignore and go work out a bit so you're ready for The Great Purge. It will soon arrive.
Be ready, weaponise yr autism to get in shape and if possible get some weapons-training.

Dawlat-al Islamiyya Baqiyah!

>inb4 you're not a real muslim!!!!!11!!1!!

What race are you out of interest?

No thanks. It's a political ideology, whose purpose is to dominate the world and create one big superstate. Almost as bad as communism. Then again, you two are like peas in a pod these days, aren't you.

Allahu agbar :DDD

youtube.com/watch?v=2TCdmy-7-Xw

Well, I'm sorry you feel that way.

Yes, I think your genocide shit is just angry LARPing, believe it or not.

>gender roles
>sublime
>promote equality
yfw you have never seen a male mudshit with a shitrag on its inbred head

So how many goats do you fuck? One a week, 2 maybe? How does goat pussy feel? Do you fuck only male goats?

It's communism for sand niggers.

Let them come at me, those fags don't stand a chance.

Islam is shit-tier and you've been lied to. wake up you fucking weak white faggot.

I was born in Europe.

Tunisia is culturally Muslim, most people there choose and pick what to practice.

Weird, you don't respond to the 2nd part of my post

Let me ask you some questions, if an actual muslim come to talk to you about islam, will you have the same speech ? That Muhammad was deceived by Satan and that the foundation of islam was horrific ?

Because i strongly doubt that, i think you converted to islam because you fear muslims, and that making your own idea of what islam is is just an excuse for you to join the enemy's side, to muslims, you're not muslim, and to us, you're worst than a muslim

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Turkish? or are you a convert?

glorifying this pedo deathcult should be banned everywhere. Even here on Sup Forums

Go fuck yr 9 year wife that you bought from your uncle you fucking inbred degenerate.

And do the world a favor: kill yourself

How many goats do you get when you convert to Islam?
I might be interested...because of reasons.

You don't choose and pick what to practice here. If you turn christian or jewish you go to jail.

If you're an atheist well, you go to jail.

If you're a faggot, you go to jail.

Our laws are based on Islam, i don't call that culturally muslim, i call it Totalitarianism.

I love doggos, friend

Biggest sign would be that most mosques where I live are beginning to do the call to prayer in English, you dont have to do every damn thing in Arabic.

2. Just read the Sira, I couldnt say what percent of his wealth he gave, or what he gave for himself though.

Personally I hate commies. I cant speak for everyone though.

>Islam merely sets out laws for slavery. In Islam, slaves have certain fundamental rights.
I.e., "Slavery lite"

Satanic verses implies that "Allah" is not the greatest if the prophet tricked. "Change vs exclude" means nothing when compared to the truth that "Allah" is not the greatest.

Pedophilia- I am not Christian and agree that it does not have an "age of consent". However, following any "religion" (belief system) without using reason and logic (skepticism) is not healthy, mentally or physically.

Without free speech, there is no room to criticize harmful policies. Further, without free speech, belief systems become foundations of society. Both Islam and Christianity have things in them that are good, but most of the "good" in Islam comes from Judeo-Christian Theology.

Try telling that to Christians who refuse to pay Jiz ya might have a different outlook.

>islam
>religion
pick one

Islam recognizes that men and women are meant to compliment each other, not compete with each other, and the world has become increasingly in favor of legal equality for the sexes.

I dont fear muslims, I have had that conversation about the satanic verses many times.

Don't force your "peace" on others.

Nope, I'm an actual European and I'm a convert. You should study the theology itself before converting, don't just look at social aspects of the religion.

Have you considered moving abroad? I know that Islam is still strong in North Africa, but I always hear that it's becoming more of a thing followed by the older generations as young people turn to nihilism/atheism.

I knew about Morocco but not about Tunisia, and yet we allow them to come to Europe, and they have the same behavior, that's fucking sick

Algeria don't have islamic laws too, do they ?