Can I get a basic gestalt of WTF is going on between Turkey/Erdoğan and the Netherlands?

Can I get a basic gestalt of WTF is going on between Turkey/Erdoğan and the Netherlands?

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>sultan erdoroach wants to become dictator
>needs referendums to pass
>needs t*rkroach diaspora to pass referendum
>sends ministers to euro nations with t*rk diaspora
>ministers get BTFO by euro nations (for once) because euros don't like dictators
>chimp out how this is an attack on muh t*rkish democracy and how the ebil racis whitebois just want to keep t*rks down
>meanwhile, no one gives a shit in europe

to be fair, only reason germany and netherlands even btfo'd him in the first place is because it's election year and cucking out openly to mudslimes would look bad to an already frustrated electorate

He needed a rival to get more vote. Think about that "Europe doesnt want us to win, lets stick together and win this together!"

> muh election in 2 days
> lets piss off the turks to win votes
> not gonna backfire
> we stronk we yurop

I mean he does that all the time, we were so so close with israel from the beginning and he fucked up everything for muslim votes. Than same thing with russia and its goes that way. (I wanna know why the every one of Erdogan's enemies are the closest allies of Turkey)

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>few hundred thousand mudslime votes (who'd never vote for wilders anyways) vs few million white dutch votes (who might actually be swayed by mudslime chimpouts)

Armed turks drove from germany and they were stopped and disarmed.

Pretty amazing stuff.

Just putting this out here, but this is why Turks are so stupid.

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> GESTALT'D
Thanks, but if it's European broadly speaking, then why does the Netherlands in particular seem affected or singled out in this? Why is he calling the Netherlands Nazi remains, saying Nazism is alive there, etc. Is it because the election there is soon?

> thinking they are trying to get mudslime votes

> Erdoğan is trying to get all the power there is to have, referendum coming up in a month to do so
> Most swing votes are nationalist, who are only a tick above Islamists in terms of intelligence
> Because of the said lack of intelligence, they can't think critically
> Thus, creating a Europe vs Turks narrative is a great way of consolidating those votes around Muh Big Stronk Leader
> Meanwhile, elections are coming up in Europe too and everyone there had enough of mudslimes shitting all over their countries
> Which makes the voters in Europe more likely to vote right wing, so politicians are pandering to them
> Erdoğan sees this, sends ministers around Europe, diaspora votes are the cover, the real intention is to create a shitstorm
> Everything is going according to plan

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So Erdogan is a master playing 7D Interroach Chess? How can he keep getting away with this?

I don't know but it seems like erdogan is an autist screeching right now.

So what exactly will the referendum if it goes through in Erdoğan's favor mean exactly? Will he basically be given full power in the country and become a pure autocratic dictator? What would he even do, try to start Ottoman Empire 2.0? I know he's already purged most criticism in the country's institutions.

He's basically trying to pull a Palpatine at this point.

Reminds me of the good ole days before 2010 when all of Sup Forums and media was shitting on Erdogan opponents.

>h-he fixed the economy
>he did democratic reforms

What a master conman, fooled entire nations.

This plays well for Geert Wilders I'd think

He's trying to implement an American style Presidential Republic but conviently without all the checks and balances.

THIS TURK GETS IT

The west should reap what they sow.

We told their ministers to fuck off when they wanted to campaign for a referendum to give Erdogan more power and two extra terms among Turks living here. One was refused access to the runway and diverted to France or some shit, the other one was arrested and deported the same day to Germany.

Erdogan is having an autistic tempertantrum over it, calling us Nazi's and want us to apologize. Our cuckservative prime minister said that was ridiculous and resumes business as usual.

Questions..?

Never ever trust a political islamist.

I personally emailed his "democracy is a train, you get off when you reach your destination" vid to European newspapers, the following day's headlines were all praising Erdogan.

Now nothing short of a war will get rid of him.

So basically,

>Dutch retaliate and Mudslimes get angry at government, vote for alternative parties
>Dutch do not retaliate, piss off even more Dutch, alternative parties gain support

Is this win win?

>Can I get a basic gestalt
gtfo you faggot bogposting redditfag

because he's playing against babies

He can keep getting away with this because the majority of the country has a inferiority complex, clouding their vision
Basically, gives almost every power to the president and the only check & balance mechanism is "Well we have elections every 5 years !"

It's a bastardized version of the American system :
> He will choose all the ministers himself without parliament/senate approval. Even the number of them is not specified, so he can appoint anyone he wants.
> He will appoint almost all the judges without parliament approval. Guess who will judge him if he fucks up ? The judges he appointed.
> In theory he can't pass any laws that contradict with the laws parliament passed. However, because he is the leader of the party and there is no pre-election mechanism, all the representatives in the parliament will be the ones he chose as well and no one will dare to challenge him.

What do you want? You would have never been allowed into the EU anyway and the EU is a shithole that won't last the coming decade. Democracy is a meme anyway social liberal democracy is a cover for faggotry globalization and the erosion of national sovereignty. The crafty roach is trying to make Turkey great again by playing 4D chess with Europe Russia NATO and the Arab world

>What would he even do, try to start Ottoman Empire 2.0?
If Erdogan had his way he'd do exactly. The guy loves the Ottoman Empire and doesn't hide the fact.

pic related
>A grand reception in the likes of the Ottoman Empire has welcomed Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to Anakara, as Turkey resurrected images of past warriors to greet the foreign leader.
>The scene of the historical costume drama included 16 warriors each representing one of the 16 empires of Turkish history from the Hunnic Empire, founded around 200 BC, to the Ottoman Empire which was dissolved in 1920.
rt.com/news/222027-erdogan-abbas-ottoman-welcome/

Erdogan even criticized the Treaty of Lausanne, which created the borders of modern Turkey, for leaving the country too small, and he wants to expand Turkey's borders to include Turkish minorities living in nearby states, including Greece.
foreignpolicy.com/2016/10/23/turkeys-religious-nationalists-want-ottoman-borders-iraq-erdogan/

Exactly. Even when the Islamists were "oppressed", they were killing atheist thinkers, burning people alive.

Who the fuck can think giving these people equal representation was justified ? Everything was clear from the beginning. The first 5-6 years of Erdoğan regime was taqiyya at its best. When he got the power, he showed his true face.

>Send your cabinet member to CAMPAIGN to dual-citizens in a foreign country
>Country says no, that's literal fifth column shit
>Deliberately provoke them by trying to get into the country anyway and tell your fifth columnists to riot
>everyone tells you to stop
>OMG FASCISTS

Turks are delusional as ususal

Just accept the Sultan. I mean he has the palace already.

> delusional

Actually it's well planned. Guilt the EU with SJW buzzwords and whip up nationalism in the roach diaspora creating an us vs them conflict making it look like Turkey is under siege by the EU.

They probably wouldn't mind as much if Erdoğan wasn't a crazy Islamist pseudo-theocrat with barely masked imperialistic desires to recreate a fantasy empire who will probably destroy a lot of freedoms and nice secular institutions Turkey had built into it by Ataturk. He's literally destroying what Ataturk tried to establish modern Turkey as, a progressive secular Western-European-style state. Even with a more authoritarian state it doesn't mean you have to destroy all of that.

Well whos votes are you talking about then?
The netherlands (mainly wilders) pissed off turks, they would never ever vote for him anyway and there is no Netherlander who thought to himself after that "WELL HOW DARE THEY COCKBLOCK THE GREAT PERSON THAT IS ERDOGAN?! i AM NOT VOTING FOR THEM ANY MORE"
If anything I know few people that saw the chimpouts recently and are swaying to the right because of it.

>You would have never been allowed into the EU anyway

Is this a meme? Cause it sure didn't sound that way 2000-2010 when EU was leading Turkey on like a 2 dollar whore promising membership if the Turks acted more "democratic".

The truth is it was all ruse to keep Turkey happy whilst they fastracked all the Greeks and Slavhists into the Union before Turkey realised they had been had.

Now that the Turks know they've been dupped Erdo is gonna cause tons of problems and EU is gonna crumble under the weight of unchecked immigration and lose of military power and security as the Turks cozy up to Asia and turns it's back on Yurop.

I'm sure Europe can survive with a united Russia + Turkey + Middle East, KEK

Also ErdoRoach has the EU by the balls with like 3.5 million refugees that he can loose on Germany any time he wants before the German election so he can get away with calling them whatever he wants and the EU will Cuck

Germany banned all Kurdish related symbology two days ago

google.ca/amp/s/www.rt.com/document/58c355bdc3618875378b4601/amp

Just some good ol racism and islamophobia

Most turks who vote for Erdoshit while living abroad are descendants of retarded mountain-folk who marry their relatives. At least here.

Referendum time, Turkey gets ministers to European countries which have a substantial amount of double-passport Turkish-something people.
Germany, Netherlands and Austria refuse, Germany lets it happen with some kind of protest.
Then it came to the Netherlands, and we refused more categorically. He escalated, we escalated, we offered discussion to probably have the minister do it after the election through diplomatic channels. That's the point where Turkey should have cut its losses without losing much face, if any at all.
They escalated and tried to get the speech any way they could, we escalated they escalated and we stopped 1 minister from landing. Then ANOTHER minister was coming here by car through Germany, and we stopped her before reaching the Turkish embassy. We did, they escalated, called us nazis. Eventually declared HER persona non grata as well and she eventually turned around and left. Now they're calling us nazis, fascists, etc. etc. while trying to save face when Erdogan just made a bad judgment call.

It's probably a secondary contingency measure and was stategically pre-planned well in advance by him.

KEK
When you can't get over the Le globalist jews xDD meme, even Erdoğan looks like a good guy

I'm simply pointing out that the Nederlands has a vote coming up too and this plays nicely into right-wing hands like you already mentioned.

>Country says no, that's literal fifth column shit
You got this wrong Ivan.
The (((EU))) played big in Syria, supporting the (((terrorists))). Most support was provided from NATO bases in Turkey.
Erdogan switched sides and is now killing the (((terrorist))) operatives.
Still the (((EU))) is highly indebted to Erdogan, and this is why Germany had to swallow the 1.5M rapefugees dick.
Now at a diplomatic level the EU must pretend it is mad at Erdogan as a whole. Still he is better than any joo-controlled puppet in Europe.

EIN VOLK. EIN ROACH. EIN FUHRER.

>Germany banned all Kurdish related symbology two days ago
Stop supporting Kurds and taking their side it really isn't helping.

I can't stand Erdogan or Turkroaches but can I get some sources

Right/left would have been 100/50 seats even before this event. It's just a VVD/PvdA desperate ploy for votes by profiling themselves as the 'COMPETENT GOVERNMENT' but then again they did do pretty well.

Erdoroach is not killing terrorist operatives he's cleverly adjusting his roach tactics as the situation on the ground develops and is trying to get the best outcome for himself and Turkey. He bailed out his own terror forces with Euphrates shield and is cleverly fucking up his own military which is the only threat to his power by having them do roach things in an unwinnable situation and then get rid of the top brass when they inevitably fail and/or purge any dissneters while inserting his roach self into the conflict by becoming a problem and extracting concessions from America and Russia

Exterminators are about to make bank in the Netherlands.

Imagine in 2050 when european countries are 50% white and muslim countries pull this shit. Having +1 million muslims rioting in the street will be so much fun.

Erdogan wants to have rallies to promote out of country voters for his "special powers martial law".
Dutch government knows that it will be a street brawl between the pro-Erdogan and anit-Erdogan and will effectively be a Geert Wilders commercial.
Dutch tried to stop it, Erdogan is crying "I'm a victim here, of NAZIs!" because he sees how well it works in the western media.
Erdogan chimps out because he is a dirty little monkey.

the Wilders protest at the Turkish embassy didn't even count 100 people. It's a VVD/PvdA move to show how competent they are as a government.

>Erdogan switched sides and is now killing the (((terrorist))) operatives.

No he isn't. He's just killing the kurds and occupying northern Syria while everyone else is busy with their free for all.

> Implying Erdogan would have been able to hold power all this time with infiltration in the army.
He already purged the army in the self-coup.
Roach intervention in Syria is meant to prevent the (((kurds))) from forming an axis with Turk-based kurds from safe heavens in the north of the country
The "free syrian army" hold onto Aleppo just because of roach support. Now all that is gone and they are being wiped out by SAA and Russia.

because theres a lot of turks in Netherlands and Germany, not anywhere else.

And Erdogen has to suck the leader of EU's dick (Germany) to make his people believe he will be joining the EU soon so his only attack option is Netherlands.

I said "a street brawl between the pro-Erdogan and anit-Erdogan", not anything about some Wilders protest. Do the silent majority even protest? We seem to require much less virtue signalling.

He barely killed any Kurds. Thus far his army took 6 months of moving through pro Roach rebel territory seizing a 5 villages and 12 goats North of Al Bab and having a mock battle with ISIS. Kurds still control vast areas of the border and are under American protection roach man wants America to give him something by being a pain in the ass

Traitorous liberal, Orbán said Erdogan was the good guy!

daily reminder that 70% of Turks never have read a single book from cover to cover

> destroyed entire kurd towns in turkey, but killed no kurds
Maybe he is not killing any (((syrian kurds))) because they are burger operatives.
Still he is playing 4D chess along with Putin. Merkel being a (((pawn))) cant compete.

Meanwhile, muh 1000 YEARS ROACH.