I've been very interested in the occult for some time now and i really consider venturing into this world.
i've heard people say that the term "demon" is nothing more than "spirit" and you have the choice of contacting ones who are benevolent or ones that are malevolent to do evil things for you.
Anywho is demonology really that evil as it's proclaimed to be? Is there a reason why we're told by pop. culture that occult magick is a bunch of nonsense so that we wouldn't dabble into it and pull strength and fortune out of it and thus is covered up by the elites?
I also do want to read some books on it, however, I'm not quite sure where to start as a beginner so any recommendations are appreciated.
if you truly BELIVE with all your heart in something it is real for you
also this life is just a game, like fallout\skyrim for example but way more cool
Xavier Nelson
A 'Spirit' exists in the 4th dimension. The one of Time. Yes. Magic is real. All that 'Science' cr@p They teach you in Church is nothing more than code for Magic. The Elites know we exist in a 4th Dimensional Time Cube Program. They attempt to program us. And siphon our Spiritual Energy. Once you reach a certain point of Time Unit Influence you can state you have a 'strong' 'Spirit'.
Luke Scott
Is it real? John Ramirez worked for Satan for 25 years of his life, let him tell you how real it is:
what are memes. memes are information spreadable like some sort of Spirit spread. information spreads from patient to patient effecting their Time Energy conversion. slowly the memes become real in our world.
Nathaniel Harris
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William Flores
g0nna give it to u.
Zachary Young
>Is Black magick real?
not in terms that are being implied.
>Is it beneficial?
Is a screwdriver beneficial? Not when its lodged in your temple.
Wyatt Rogers
You are making a huge mistake. It will destroy you
Jacob Walker
adrenochrome: used in satanic rituals where you drink the blood and addrenalin from a sacrifice to empower yourself with demonic energy.
seems pretty evil.
Juan Taylor
black magic = Niggerized Magic. niggerized magic is simply doing stuff that hurts others for the l0ls.
Sebastian Rivera
Meme magic is more than enough for whatever purpose you need. Don't go down the dark path user.
Hudson Edwards
Yeah i had already seen that.
But here's a lot of people invoking good spirits. Not all of them are bad, supposedly.
Plus, there's a lot of good people involved in Magick and they aren't evil so i guess they aren't invoking evil demonic spirits. So there must be good ones out there. or out here lol
Jacob Walker
What you're saying is what David Icke and Alex Jones talk about aswel
Interesting
Christian Diaz
White Magicks users. The Classy Racist Alien Magic. no escaping your genes. Computer Tests. Computer Tests. To see who's Spirit is the best.
Tyler Adams
We are in a Computer Program run by Aliens. That doesn't make our Spirits illegitimate.
Cooper Rodriguez
>Is Black magick real? Is it beneficial?
I have no idea, but im pretty sure Warp is real, its just not been discovered yet.
Ethan Foster
No such thing, do not be deceived my friend
The only good is God and his kingdom, anything outside of it, no matter how "good looking", is evil. Remember, Satan can appear as an angel of light and deceive you if you don't know better.
Luke Long
Heyguyshowsitgoinkripparianhere. Today I wanna talk about meme magic. It turns out it's preeeetty gooooood.
Christian Bennett
Wait what, Warp? What's that
Easton Carter
going to Sup Forums to talk about magic
sage
Jace Rivera
what do you mean black?
what's order the the spider is chaos to the fly, the same as the moth to the leaf
what you consider black isn't, blow back come from self deceit within the practitioner, which most whom practice are smothered by
there aren't good books on it Take potent psychedelics and meditate it's much faster and more meaningful
Mason Adams
oh my g0d a wild old testament nigga has appear3d.
Jaxson Allen
Yeah okay, it's not like i'm going to want to invoke demons or satans.
I just wanna delve into magick in general and see if it's really true but i need some good literature for that i guess
Leo Stewart
This has nothing to do with the Old Testament you blind fool
William Reyes
Of course it's real you dumb dumb. If you really wanted to find the truth, you would.
Josiah Collins
yeah it does. Yahweh the space alien drowned every1 1n that st0ry you retard.
Adam Phillips
I can't take psychedelics, last time i did LSD i nearly had a psychosis, not going to risk it again.
Austin Brooks
Of course it's true, God exists, and so does Satan, do you really need confirmation about the latter if you already believe the former?
Magick and the occult will only end in your destruction, because Satan hates you and wants to destroy you, he doesn't care for you, he knows his time is running out and wants to drag as many people with him as possible!
"The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have life and have it abundantly." (John 10:10)
"Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places." (Ephesians 6:11-12)
Adam Flores
Funnily enough i just started Styxhexenhammer666's videos on the occult.
Demonology is taught by the catholic church, all of the Popes have studied demonology, but its less contact more identifying and exorcising them, its not compulsory since John Paul II but many still take it for fun.
Summoning shit is stupid, it probably wont work because it probably doest really work like that but if it does you will probably fuck yourself over somehow
Easton Cooper
styxx will tell you on youtube.
His book Occult Philosophy for the Modern Age is a good contemporary rundown.
As for demons, there is ample evidence to suggest you don't summon them, they summon you. People who encounter supernatural entities do so their entire lives, it's possibly genetic and they can "see" into the part of the spectrum that normies can't. The theory behind demon summoning is the same as Archon theory: they are the Architect's little AI "helpers" now cut losse wandering the cosmos without orders. If you know their callsigns, and how to express what you want them to do for you, you can theoretically get them to do stuff for you. Never met anyone or even heard of anyone this actually happened to yet though. I have seen an archon; it burnt my skin and shorted out the powergrid for the area, so those I do know are real.
Dylan Cruz
Styx is the go to guy on the occult. However honestly you're better off going to /x/ rather than Sup Forums even if it is a slow board
Noah Walker
Dont waste your time reading. If you want that shit its something you do, not read. You find others to initiate you and do it. Same as any religion.
Ryan Evans
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Caleb Johnson
Must be why God bans the use of magic.
herp derp derp herp
Because it doesn't even real.
Julian Cook
did u know the evil computer program will eat your soul and make you play dungeons and dragons don't be evil k1ds. trust the original pr0grammer a completely absent force in our world.
Camden Price
g0d bans programming don't learn it.
Christian Ortiz
Oh and ya, of course it's real, OP. Just like black people who aren't criminals and tall Asians.
You just have to believe, man.
Jacob Hughes
Its real but not beneficial. You may gain an adventage in this life, but will be the slave of the demons that served you now in the afterlife. Looking and rothschild and rockefeller it also puts a lot of strain on your body and lets your body practically decompose while you still live
David Perry
You're not even supposed to mention programming. Good job, you just worshiped the Devil.
Good fucking job.
Colton Evans
oh so using a script is now worshiping the d3vil nice comput3r you're using there.
Evan Sanchez
The testimonies are there for you to watch and read, if you choose to ignore them, that's your choice
That's funny, I've been working as a programmer for 5 years now. I can teach you if you like :)
Luke Parker
Not wishing to be confrontational, but why did Heaven have an army? How could there be a standing army in the Silver City?
It's more likely to be metaphor for the collison of the salt water comet "Tiamat" that struck near the Euphraties and fucked up the oceans everafter. Some of us have alien water in our veins, which would explain a lot tbqh famalam.
James Baker
Wow thanks for the advice. Also super interested in your archon experience. Can you greentext bro?
Henry Campbell
Great, you made me mention Programming. Now I'm fucked too. Good job, user.
You're just fucking awesome. Great guy.
Jaxon Scott
The only black magic in this world is how the black male disappears when his child is due.
Alexander Clark
>computers are magic now
Eli Moore
wingdings loop the hoop triple knotted hoop loopy woop. omg d3v1l w0rsh1p pr0gramm3r is sending m3 t0 h3ll.
Jordan Thompson
Depends if it's a Sunday or not. Just read the damn Bible, it's loaded with computer tips.
Juan Miller
Edgy as fuck bro
Xavier Garcia
Skip the kripp
Daniel Ward
Its always a 'host' probably a civic army, need one to do as God commands incase the devil does anything really naughty
>A computational process is indeed much like a sorcerer's idea of a spirit. It cannot be seen or touched. It is not composed of matter at all. However, it is very real. It can perform intellectual work. It can answer questions. It can affect the world by disbursing money at a bank or by controlling a robot arm in a factory. The programs we use to conjure processes are like a sorcerer's spells. They are carefully composed from symbolic expressions in arcane and esoteric programming languages that prescribe the tasks we want our processes to perform.
Jayden Ortiz
Skip the kripp Stop talking and play hurtstone already
Tyler Ortiz
Where do you guys come up with this stuff? Alien water? what? have you been reading crazy eastern pagan religions that claim Jesus was some sort of ascended master? Be careful with that Satanic garbage
God has angels, that's all I know. There's only so much we know about the infinity of God and his kingdom, can't expect to get all the answers you want.
Juan Flores
Not much to tell: >last Wednesday in March 2015 >as John Keel pointed out, this is the best time to see a UFO, past 8pm >look out of window in towerblock for flashes of blues turning red (Archons/UFOs descend down the visible spectrum from insubstantial to substantial) or suspicious planes away from known flightpaths (they also masquerade as civilian craft) >hah! a clear blue twinkle that immediately drops below the clouds turning orange and then red! Archons! >as I am watching this from a safe distance, one of the stars gets brighter... and then drops out of the sky heading right towards the flats, blacking out everything underneath it, before finalling stopping within 20m of my window >everything is now pitch black but for this archon. It turned from white to blue to red and as it did so I noticed I was now sunburnt and I pulled back >it shoots up vertically into the sky, the blackouts remain until the repairmen reroute the power
That's about it. They are very impressive. Keel suggested they are always present, and we can only see them when the Earth rolls into certain cosmic rays. This would seem to make sense. Victims of the paranormal perhaps can see them all the time?
Alexander Peterson
you m0r0n infinity is d3v1l worship to0.
Robert Cruz
They are pretty magical... You took a bunch of dirt and crystals, used some heat and alchemy and now you have a box that can hold small and simple base realities inside it.
You play video games on a pile of dirt. You're talking to me from like a thousand miles away, on a pile of dirt.
Your entire fap folder is stored it what was once.... A pile of dirt.
Daniel Wilson
lol nice 1337 tr0ll1ng sk1llz br0
muh feelings!!11!11!!!1oneoneeleven
Eli Martin
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Jonathan Brown
satan is the one true evil. oh no you can't even say his name cause of his masculinity it'll ass ravage u. saaa taaa nnn.
Colton Reed
Actually Satan and the demons tremble at the name of Jesus
fyi lol
Joseph Hernandez
yes cause we all know the weakness of powerful computer pr0grams is Basic Lettering.
Isaiah Murphy
0h no anything except the dirt box l3tt3rs.
Sebastian Hill
>Fortunately, learning to program is considerably less dangerous than learning sorcery
For starters, the biggest danger in "real sorcery" is ending up getting burnt at the stake by your peers.
Whereas a group of programmers could theoretically cause a nuclear disaster in a populated area.
Matthew Green
u wot m8? If you're talking about syntax errors, then the program wouldn't even compile
Biggest weaknesses of computer programs are human errors, like forgetting to free allocated memory or referencing a null pointer or something of that sort.
do u even code bro
William Carter
Demons are not spirits. Spirits are either a personification of mother nature without are real body unlike fairies or they are simply a part from the soul of a self-aware being that don't know that it died. Spirits from deceased are usally weak and need warmth from environment to keep their shape. If they had strong willpower before their death the spirits will keep their original form and can influence the surroundings. Demons on the other hand are entities from other universes or even dimension that can exist in more than two of them in the same time. Many demons are very intelligent, can use magic and want to evolve other beings to the next level of existence, but nearly all demons have personalities like us and most of them are actually scared of the possible growing power (we call it here meme magic) of the human race. Demons like the 72 from Solomon are after my definition actually "liberal" and want to see our race evolving. Other demons that you can summon with a ouija board or wiccan spells are mostly the evil ones that are proclaimed by the pop culture. They want just to jew on your life energy with your inexperienced in otherworldly powers.
Xavier Carter
so you think powerful 4th dimensional beings who don't play by the rules would play by your 3 dimensional rules cause you spouted something bout manmade pr0grams.
Thomas Howard
spirits are computational processes in the universe which our universes' matter is simulated on
Asher Kelly
I dunno man, you're the one talking about programs for some reason.
I'm talking about the spiritual world, not the physical world, and spiritual beings can manifest themselves physically.
Logan James
emulated on is probably a better term
Ian Morgan
yes. computers are not inanimate. did you know that.
Gabriel Ramirez
>like forgetting to free allocated memory
what ancient tools are you using? Use automatic expiration.
Thomas Robinson
Gul'dan is the Soros of Azeroth. He opened up a portal and allowed thousands of demons to corrupt a relatively peaceful land
Ian Baker
G0d doesn't play dic3. Why would an advanced civilizati0n pr0gram a us3l3ss w0rld. rlly makes u think.
Juan Sanchez
Computers are inanimate objects usually made of plastic, lay off the drugs son
Jack Harris
The occult is interesting stuff, but demonology can be rather sinister. I see no need to evoke or invoke demons for personal gain ; anything you want in this world can be achieved through your own will, which is also an occult idea to some degree.
As to the question of where to start, you could jump straight into the lesser keys of Solomon, but I wouldn't recommend it. Lurk on and get a link for Thoth's library and watch some of Styx's occult content on YouTube. That would be a better starting point.
Josiah Roberts
wr0ng electricity is demonic so don't us3 it.
Ethan Baker
I'm actually using C#/.NET which has an automatic garbage collector, but even then there can be cases were memory leaks if you forget to unsubscribed from an event handler, this most commonly happens in WPF
If I was writing C then I would definitely have to worry about freeing all memory by myself which is a pain
Colton Ortiz
Black magic? More like BLACKED magic
Chase Parker
pls use your Yahweh given brain to explain the jeebuses some moar.
Bentley Reyes
oh no this offends Israelites 2 many YHWH followers daughters are gettin' blacked. time to SHUT DOWN THE ENTIRE PROGRAM.
Bentley Adams
What do you want to know?
If you're into historical/philosophical/scientific evidence, I highly recommend listening to a Dr. William Lane Craig.
Levi Young
but yes, check'em.
Andrew Ward
plz tell me how ur 3000 year old book is more relevant than a one million year old book. plz tell me how the gr3at 0riginal 0n3 programmed things so perfectly that heaven could be 4ever.
Thomas Cox
I am jewish this is not a coincidence. oy vey my religion must be true and not a cult cause I'm scared of illegal aliens BLACKING my daughters. :^)
William Wood
>plz tell me how the gr3at 0riginal 0n3 programmed things so perfectly that heaven could be 4ever.
He used his brains given to him by evolution to intelligently design it.
Grayson Kelly
Well according to hindu/buddhist beliefs things as black magic are real, but they will cause you much more troubles then benefits. I. e. evil spirits will haunt you and cause sickness or mighty spirits/gods will curse you.
And according for example to norse beliefs almost anyone can fall under spells, and no one regulate this stuff.
According to modern withes and the like, magic is what people face in day-to-day life and don't even pay attention to it.
Christians burnt witches for a reason i might say. And only the consumerist society drove attention of plebs from this touching matter.
In my opinion, if one plays with fire and burn others property - one should be ready to face consequences.
Ryan Moore
Can you be more coherent and specific with your questions, and not use 1337 speak?
First of all, the oldest manuscripts are dated around 250 B.C., and were not put together to what we know as the "Old Testament" until much later, even after the New Testament, but obviously the events are much older than that.
Second of all, the age of an event or a document has nothing to do with whether it is true or not. This is basic common sense.
What one million year book are you talking about?
I don't understand the last part of your question...
Xavier Morales
oy vey can you DIE and burn in Hell. k thanks.
Brandon Garcia
this world can't be random. I won't accept it.
Aaron Carter
Hmm yeah i've heard about Toth's tablets and shit. Should look into the library aswel.
Thanks
Gavin Roberts
the dark path continues for O.P. don't sell your spirit to the daemunz.
Kayden Morris
oh wow so much darkness. very scare. much fire. is this H3ll.
Ryder Lewis
My personal belief is the "fine tuned universe". Look it up. Very small changes in how reality works would be enought to stop anything but a cloud of hydrogen atoms to exist.