Which is more important to you, improving your own life or saving Western civilization?

Which is more important to you, improving your own life or saving Western civilization?

And if you were ever in a situation when you had to sacrifice one fore the other, would you?

I feel as if both go hand in hand.

In real life, these are rarely mutually exclusive goals.

Shitty people suck. They produce 2nd order effects like shitty societies.

That's not the question I asked, and they do not always go hand in hand as you could sell out your country to enrich yourself.

I asked which do you value more

Who gives a shit about western civilisation lol its dead just move on with your life

Obviously my own life but

What do you think is actually going to happen to you, as an individual, if society collapses around you?

I wouldn't sacrifice my own life to save Western civilisation but I sure as hell would sacrifice every single Muslim man, woman, and child in the West.

Other examples:

- Never getting married
- Becoming a welfare leech
- Racemixing
- Being involved in a degenerate industry

There is no saving Western civilization. There is not one thing that was ever sustainable about the ridiculous consumerist culture of the West, which all runs on a one time endowment of ancient carbon energy that just the United States uses at 100 million barrels a day-and it will become more apparent as time goes on and as resources dwindle that this social experiment is coming to a close. People need to just accept it, every species on Earth has their time, and humans are having the last good times of theirs. Nature, which is the only real God we have ever had, has been trying to send us a message this whole time: Nothing lasts. Not your stupid ideological beliefs, not your mortal form, and not whatever iteration of civilization you are currently in. Enjoy the good times while you still can, because they are coming to a close.

Well, my goals are to start a business involving my greatest passion in life, animals. I want to breed and sell reptiles, fish, amphibians, and arachnids for the pet trade. So, my goal will employ Americans, and teach kids about animal life from all over the world. I would also love to partner with schools and give classes tours and hopefully excite children about the natural world just by sharing my passion with them.

If I could save the Western civilization by sacrificing my own life, I'd do it.

Well fuck you too then, don't let the door hit you on your way out. I'd rather think about how to save the civilization than be waiting for inevitable death like you

These two things go hand in hand if you're doing it right. If not, you are a degenerate one way or the other.

The decline of civilization is a slow process

One human lifespan is insignificant in the grand scale of things

So, if you were given an opportunity to enrich yourself at the cost of accelerating a civilization's decline, would you?

Absolutely and without a second thought, I guess I really am an ((eternal)) kike after all.

At the end of the day, outside nice philosophical discussion and the ballot box, I live only to feed and protect my family: nothing else is important enough for me to get off this computer chair and stop masturbating to porn on Sup Forums.

Nevertheless, I could never fool myself into believing I'm doing the right thing and I would always feel at least a little bit guilty about it.

>Which is more important to you, improving your own life or saving Western civilization?

False dichotomy

Improving your own life. Patriotism, like charity, begins at home.

Western civilisation is overrated.

Blood & God above all!

I don't give a fuck about my life. The only thing I care about are the lives of my children, and their children. If that means I have to suffer and sweat throughout my entire life to give them a better world, then so be it.
Western civilization is the only place that my daughter can grow up and be truly safe. But, in order for that to happen, we have to fix it first.
Whether that means banning all muslims, building a fucking wall, or whatever, I don't care.
Western civilization isn't inherently valuable, but it's where I am and it's where my family is. If I were anywhere else, the answer would be the same.

Before you sleep soundly, you lock your front door.

Saving the western civilization.

Don't care that much for my life any more I'd sacrifice it for the greater good

My own life

"Western civilisation" isn't going anywhere anyway.

Saving Western Civilization, if I had to choose.

This tbqh.

>Before you sleep soundly, you lock your front door.
Fuck me that's good.

If you had to sell out your country to enrich yourself, you didn't truly enrich yourself. A man is his country and a country is her people. To sell out your country is to degrade yourself, and to improve your country is to improve yourself.

Ideally these two goals would run parallel to each other long term

fpbp.

You have to save yourself before you can save anything else.

>improving your own life or saving Western civilization

The two are inherently connected.

Don't you see?

you save society by saving your own life first, the definition of cuck is anyone who tolerates shitty people and being treated like shit

>Which is more important to you, improving your own life or saving Western civilization?

the latter. because what good is improving my own life if there is no future for my children?

What if you were offered a billion dollars for the safety of your own white children, at the cost of other white children?

I guess my point is that at the end of the day, everybody has a price. Those who think they don't are delusional

You'll be thinking for the rest of your life, it is unsaveable. Civilizations die when the populaces world view doesn't match that of reality. Everything about Western nations is about illusions and externalization of the negatives. Don't kid yourself, there is nothing left to save. Accept it.

Yes, everyone has a price. LARPing on 4chin about wanting to die in Hitler's legions does not actually constitute any sort of sacrifice.

If people on Sup Forums were 1/1000th as dedicated to "the cause" as they say they are not a single shitskin would be alive in Europe nor a single Jew in the United States.

The truth is 99% of people who talk big shit, anonymously, online, on a fucking anime imageboard, would never back it up IRL.

consumerism and materialism arent core western values. they're not even core american values. they're modernist values that only really gained a foothold in the 20th century.

My own life, no question. I hate when guys are put down for capitulating to the Jews, their life is on the line. I understand.

I never said I don't have a price. My priorities are plain and simple. Society is nothing but a means to an end.
If I had a billion dollars right now, I'd purchase a few hundred square acres out in the middle of nowhere and say fuck the world.

The problem is that I can't do that, and neither can you, probably.
We're forced to live in this place- in this society. It's what we have to do. So, because we don't have the means to escape it, we must fix it.

based, wish you luck and even more success

The west.

Why should I spend my time and resources trying to fix it? Degeneracy is more fun.

Why not instead try to make as much money as possible and flee to another country when shit hits the fan here?

When America finally falls, the rest of the world will be in much worse shape.
Make no mistake, we will be the final country standing in the way of whatever happens.

Thanks! It'll be a few years until I'm able to get going. I need to find a new fulltime job so that I make enough to be able to save any money at all after my monthly bills, buy a house, then start my breeding operation slowly, as I gain traction and begin to integrate new projects into my business plan, I'll hopefully be able to make enough to afford my own facility and not have to work out of my basement.