B-but communists are the cucks!!

>b-but communists are the cucks!!

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the banker families backed the commies to take down the tsar because he refused to let them run their central bank. you have always been and will always be a tool of the rothschilds.

cuck

Marx will forever be a joke after getting eternally triggered by Mr. Spook

In communist societies you get 0% of what you make back. You become a cuck to neeys and shaniquas with 10 kids

Sup Forums, offering free 1 way trip chopper rides for commies since 1321

no, but only cucks believe they were cool

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>please listen to me working class men
>I in my infinite bourgeoisie Jew wisdom have your best interests in mind even though I have never worked a day in my life
>I would certainly never betray you and invent a political ideology that pretends to be for the benefit of the working class but instead creates widespread famine, destruction, and poverty for all but a select few Jewish elites.
Yeah, Marx seems pretty legit.

Marx was against "marxism"
Read a book

white families could afford to have over 20 kids

Don't you realize how fucking retarded you sound? The Rotschilds and other banksters are turbo capitalists. Let's say that they backed the Commies in hope that they would remove the Tsars, but lose to "Liberalists"/Capitalists that would open the country for their banks.

>poor people must at all times work to maximise their material wealth, without restraints using all possible means including extreme violence at a mass scale to seize money from the rich in hyper-rational pursuit of their own self-interest

>RICH ARE SO CALLOUS ONLY CARING ABOUT MONEY MONEY MONEY, WHY ARE RICH PEOPLE SO GREEDY AND CALLOUS, SHOW SOME HUMANITY RICH PEOPLE, DON'T JUST CARE ABOUT MONEY

>The Rotschilds and other banksters are turbo capitalists
So what? Communism was just a means to an end for them.
>Let's say that they backed the Commies in hope that they would remove the Tsars
Which they did
>but lose to "Liberalists"/Capitalists that would open the country for their banks.
Yes because imperialist Russia would be easily defeated in a regular land war.

I should add: maybe poor people don't support killing the rich because they care about more than just maximising their material wealth, like values, society and humanity

oh, and because they aren't psychopaths and have normal human restraints against violence, unlike Marx

>Which they did
Source

Also not that it matter. The Bolsheviks took power, the Rothschilds/other banksters didn't establish themselves. Their plan didn't work. It was themselves that was just a menas to an end for the Bolsheviks in the end.

These kind of people would want you to be anti-Communist, it serves their interests.

Must be nice having a silver tounge. Commies are cucks, Im sure if Marx wanted to he could sell you the close off your back and the shit out of his own ass (we'd just call that Communism)

Marx wasn't a Bolshevik you retard

>Source
Leader of the February revolution was a senior member of the Bolsheviks.
>The Bolsheviks took power, the Rothschilds/other banksters didn't establish themselves
That doesn't matter, in the end they still got what they wanted. All debt is good for the bankers and years of war from wwii till the end of the cold war brought them enormous profits. Also after the collapse of the soviet union they made the central bank independent. They got what they wanted.

>my marxism is really unlike that other marxism, you must never conflate Hübenfelter-Gotzinsky-marxism with the offshoot Goldberg-strain of marxism

fuck off

>The Rotschilds engineered the Bolshevik revolution so that they could get an independent central bank when it collapsed

okay senpai

i never said anything about marxism

Rich or middle class communists are cucks just like how poor republicans are.

Yes because they had to make this plan hundreds of years in advance and weren't just pulling the strings the whole time.

Source on that the Rothschilds sent money to the Bolsheviks, it wouldn't surprize me - but you have to realize that their goal wasn't to establish a Socialist/Non-Capitalist society, rather it would have been to establish another "Liberal" country.

So your theory relies on that the Rothschilds planned 70+ year ahead. The Cold War was not USSRs fault and not the Bolsheviks, neither was WW2. It was both a Capitalist struggle for new markets, the USSR fought against international banksters. Your country hosted them, and hosts them. Your country is Capitalist/Corporatist, just like international banksters would prefer all of the world to be.

Banksters looking to expand their empire --> Fund Communists in hope that they will weaken Russia and open up for "Liberalism" --> Go in, take over, make money. If they did back the Bolsheviks, their plan obviously failed.

>but you have to realize that their goal wasn't to establish a Socialist/Non-Capitalist society, rather it would have been to establish another "Liberal" country.
I never claimed that was the case they just wanted the Tsar gone and a revolution was the easiest option.

>So your theory relies on that the Rothschilds planned 70+ year ahead
No it doesn't, they just didn't have any other choice.

>The Cold War was not USSRs fault and not the Bolsheviks, neither was WW2
That is assuming Hitler would have invaded imperialist Russia which is unlikely knowing his hatred for communism.
Furthermore fault is irrelevant, the cold war would not have happened if the USSR never existed.

Also don't forget what Hitler was trying to do, he wanted to take back control of the central bank and this is what the Rothschilds would not allow. WWII was simply them pinning their two enemies against each other and profiting off of it.

>the USSR fought against international banksters
Which is why they funded them right? From the beginning the bolsheviks were funded by the bankers.

>If they did back the Bolsheviks, their plan obviously failed.
Did they? They sent two of their biggest opponents into crippling debt and sparked years of war.

This.

Ah, off by one.

But you have to understand, Norwayfriend is completely right. Wallstreet & Co also funded Hitler in the hopes of establishing a liberal country to trade with. The bigger influence they have the better.

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Actually, in a communist society, your currency is your labour because surplus value expropriated from the owners of private property is eliminated. Therefore, you get the whole fruit of your labour, which makes money a useless thing (and also because in today's capitalist society, you can leech off by making money out of money).

Commies get out

I never said communist are cucks. I said communists aren't people.

Marx never had a fucking job, inequality is good youtube.com/watch?v=1e35Vf-9n8E

But commies like you will ignore facts over emotions

Like, I'm not the one to dismiss conspiracy theories, because people do conspire at a grand scale - but what happened in the USSR wasn't their plan unless you have a source that states otherwise because it's not logical. That they managed to manipulate the outcome more into their favour is another case.

The core here is that a Communist society is not what these people want, they would want the world all be like USA is today. They do want war and conflict. Both Nazi-Germany and the Soviet Union fought against international banks.

>Which is why they funded them right? From the beginning the bolsheviks were funded by the bankers.
Source. I already said my take on it. I am willing to believe it. It would simply imply that they thought they could use the Bolsheviks.

>Did they? They sent two of their biggest opponents into crippling debt and sparked years of war.
Bolsheviks came into power in 1917 and I'm pretty sure they didn't pay off the Tsars debt, or got any debt to anyone.

Literally not an argument.

shitposting is a spook

But there was no chance Germany could win. The day Hitler decided to invade Russia they were doomed.

>but what happened in the USSR wasn't their plan unless you have a source that states otherwise because it's not logical.
How could it possibly have gone better? No matter what the outcome was they still won.

>The core here is that a Communist society is not what these people want
The Tsar wasn't going to allow them into Russia regardless.

>Source
Again see The author was a leading member of the American communist party and the newspaper it was printed in was one of the largest at the time.
Lenin also complained about the bankers pulling the strings in the background.
Also see The Creature From Jekyll Island by Edward Griffin.

>Bolsheviks came into power in 1917 and I'm pretty sure they didn't pay off the Tsars debt, or got any debt to anyone.
As I said before the February Revolution was sparked by them. Alexander Shliapnikov was the leader and he was a high ranking member of the Bolsheviks.

>Bolsheviks came into power in 1917 and I'm pretty sure they didn't pay off the Tsars debt, or got any debt to anyone.
Killing off the Tsar was just the first part, steering them into WWII was the second.

>sees flag
>checks out

That counter argument is a strawman. Out of all the people mentioned there, Marx is the only one I know. Now back in the cuckshed.

>m-muh Marx was not a marxist and mocked those who called themselved marxist

That is jewish 5d checkers. Look at what strong language he uses. Almost as if he wants to incite people to revolt.

> Look at what strong language he uses. Almost as if he wants to incite people to revolt.
he meant against your boss at work

talk about cuckoldry to friedrich engels and prince kropotkin (not even uninformed and ignorant as in the case of poor republicans - just plain gullible imbeciles impressed by spooks)

Jesus. Ever come out of your echochamber for longer than a day?

What a tool.

He is literally calling the people he wants support from cucks if they do not support him. Btw, the hell are you doing here. This is politically INcorrect, and these days communism is anything but. Just go outside and scream how cool Marx was. Has not leftypol still given up with the raids?

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there is literally nothing wrong with being a cuckold

>This is politically INcorrect, and these days communism is anything but
LOL
let me just go talk to normies about communism aka the ideology that killed millions, invaded your country and raped your women. I'm sure they would be fine with it

>calling the people he wants support from cucks if they do not support him.

You must be a fan of his.

Pretty much my entire life until I discovered this place. I enjoy debating with people IRL and they still have opposing views to mine.

Or a suicide. I suggest you give it a try.

>But there was no chance Germany could win. The day Hitler decided to invade Russia they were doomed.
No, it was mostly USA involvement that made Germany doomed. Without the lend-lease, strategic bombing, western front and pacific front, and embargoes and blockades, Russia would never have been able to take on Germany.

Easy to 'debate' when you never present what you believe.

Eh. Most people seem to be able to overlook that, or pin that on corrupt leaders, rather than ideology.

Things might be different there, but there is literally a communist bar one block away from where I live and there are stickers with commie symbols everywhere in the city. Nobody cares. But God help you if you express a rightwing view.

Nah, I just call them sheep if they disagree an CERTAIN things. IRL, that is.

Spreading the cuck meme was a marxist scheme after all.

I'm so tired of it.

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and Kaiser II let Lenin travel through to Russia and used German newspapers to print his propaganda while bankers funded him so Russia could be taken out of the war, because Germany was fighting on two fronts and with this they could concentrate on one.

>I enjoy debating with people IRL
>"THE FUCKING JEWS MAN"

>never had a job
>nearly bankrupted his parents
>sponged off engles
>was a drunk
>raped his maid
Marx was a filthy kike faggot

You literally told this fag to go back in the cuckshed fifteen minutes ago.

cuck

>get called cuck for pointing out truths
really makes you think


faggot

Fucking scum

this is a really bad interpretation of the opening dialogues of plato's republic.
nothing to see here.

how will the white cis hetero patriarchy ever recover?

I don't think you realize how big Russia actually is. German supply lines can only stretch so far and the core of Russia's industrial base was deep in the east of the Ural mountains.

>gets called faggot by a literal cuckold for pointing out truths
AHAHA

sound like you secretly browse blacked.com on a private browser

you tell that white cis manpig.
testosterone is toxic and capitalist.

German blitz at its height took 200 miles in a day.

Not in Russia, granted, but forcing Germany to divide was essential.

At least he's embarrassed enough to have that.

You, on the other hand...

i'm not marxist enough sadly but maybe once i have my testicles removed and fully transition into a womyn will i able to destroy the cistriarchy.

Correction, a week.

I'm not saying that Germany could have taken and held on to all of Russia, but if the USA had stayed out of the war Japan could have taken some land from the East, and it's not likely Russia would have had the industrial capacity to take their land back. Sure, there would be vast amounts of unconquered land that neither the Germans nor the Japanese would have been able to conquer, but that doesn't mean the Soviets would be able to push back against the axis, especially since they'd be going against them at their full industrial might.

>implying marxists care about idpol
kill youself

All I'm implying is that you're flamboyantly homosexual, and can't get off without a ten inch dildo stretching your tea-sipping bum out.

right...
I'll have 20+ white kids with my white commune, while you have none in your greedy shithole

i have a question,
say, if a communist revolution happened, what would stop an authoritarian figure stepping in like china and the USSR

As if you aren't nearsighted, overweight, and struggling with sore joints since you were twenty.

The will of jesus.

Haven't we tried communism before? Seems like I remember 94 million people dying as a result of communism in the 20th century.

I don't know why you fucks are so intent on trying to make it work. It doesn't.

being fat is bourgeoisie
The people would have to be democratically in favor of anarchocommunism, which many agree would work better than marxist-leninism

sorry but you cannot be a true marxist without being a feminist. testicles are the cause of competition and capitalism, without them the world would be free.
real men are snipped and clipped.

third wave feminism is a liberal capitalist meme
stop browsing /r/socialism you cuck

if you're a true marxist you'll be castrated. manhood is obsolete.

This.

Democracy doesn't look like it's working out.

Doesn't mean Communism or NatSoc will.

B-BUT NOT REAL COMUNGIBSUM

Biting pretty good tonight, eh?

i'm talking about true feminism, the kind you should be espousing. stupid manpig.

>anarcho communism
how would this work?
whats to stop be making my own kingdom or making capitalist transactions?

what, the women's right to vote?
they vote the same as their husband anyway.

you sound so fuckin stupid i'm ashamed to have the same flag as you.

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the right to be free of manpig oppression you disgusting testicle monster. peace and equality cannot reign until you beasts are brought to heel.

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It doesn't work. Communism requires a strong central system to function.

COMMUNISM
You don't own anything, the state MIGHT give it to you IF it's functional. You can't fully produce for yourself.
Your only real motivation to be a good party member is a gun from another party member rather than a notion of wealth.
You have to kill innocent people who stand between you and your, granted more efficient but more inhumane, political system.
You oppress the religious because there is only the state, no God, and even notions of endearment to nature have no meaning because the universe is a meaningless and purposeless void.

he's going to feel the bite of the burdizzo real good around his rapist balls.

well, in an anarcho capitalist society, your currency is labor. it is voluntary. nobody can take advantage of you without you agreeing to it.
you get everything you worked for. nothing is taken from you by force. you keep everything you own, and you can actually own anything.
checkmate atheists, the bible wins again

that's third wave feminism and it's for liberals and anarchafeminists

>there can't be a 1% if everyone's poor

There's a lot of similarities with Alt Right and Marxism. Bannon was inspired by Lenin. Not to mention their eventual success in the future

middle class*