When did you lost all trust in the medical world ?

When did you lost all trust in the medical world ?

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When my mother died from cancer after being told the pain was Bursitis and given a heating pad.

She died a year later after the cancer spread..

She could have been treated for the whole time but trusted the MD.

Nobody cared.

damn that fucking sucks man.

Classic. Sorry for your loss.

I still don't understand how people can trust the so-called "specialists". I had to go multiple times to the emergency room last year, and each time i was absolutely baffled by lack of any kind of care or research towards my situation.

And i'm living in a country with a very "respectable" medical situation. Pathetic.

Working at a Vitamin Shoppe. From all the stories I've heard about doctors endangering their clients by prescribing them with products they should never have touched, the medical world seems so much less professional.

When I was hospitalized for 9 months and almost died on my second operation
Also when they let an intern operate on my foot to "give him some experience" and fucked it up

When my buddy became an anesthesiologist and told me what happens behind closed doors

Never forget, hospitals are for profit

>Bursitis
the fuck?? How did they fuck that up that bad?

Sorry to hear that bro :(

>letting an intern anywhere near you for anything else than bringing you a glass of water

Classic. I'm never doing the same mistake ever again.

Well tell us what he said??

Stop saying classic you cuck

I didn't. My father has several health problems, multiple myeloma and hereditary heart issues and the hospitals have done amazing work in their operations and medicine. Try not being poor

For example?

Same.

Mother was complaining of a pain on the bottom of her foot. Curry-munching doctor said it was a planter wart, and treated it as such.

There was no rush. It will be okay, he said.

It's skin cancer. Spreads into her lower leg.

Mother brings us together one night and tells us that she's got cancer. A shock is not the right word.

Gets sicker and sicker.

One night she brings us together and tells us she is dying. Shocked is not the right word.

She dies two days after her 48th birthday.

Hate the medical community of 2006. I was taught they have it under control.

Turn into a cynical, hateful prick who abuses drugs and alcohol until 2009.

Find a lovely girl.

Get married.

Remember that old age is somewhere I never THE future and the medical community still says it can do it all.

Think of your loved ones every time you are told that humans are an advanced species.

when I've been payin $200/mo for the past three months, finally schedule an appointment only to have it cancelled without letting me know.
fucking crooks.

Never. I don't have blind trust for anything. I also know that doctors and nurses are human and make mistakes but there are plenty of good ones. Maybe I've just been lucky but the vast majority of experiences I've had in hospitals have been positive

>he doesnt specify what happens

come on user i have to get a surgery soon just tell us

I didn't even knew he was one, those 9 months were fucking horrible and I couldn't get a straight answer from anyone, fuck anyone working in this field, except maybe for the few male nurses who were actually doing that job correctly and had passion in it

Btw also explain your situation in this thread, I'm interested

They just told mine she wasn't eating enough fat. Three times over a decade.

I know doctors didn't kill my mom, but I don't know if I'll ever go to one again.

When I started working in a hospital and realized most of the healthcare goes to people who should have died several years ago.

She was older.. in her 60's She had had a MASTECTOMY years before ... this should have been a red flag for cancer and that should have been investigated.

She complained of pain in her shoulder region.. pain is not always strictly tied to the locus of injury so no idea why the pain was in her shoulder.

maybe she did also have Bursitis but still I think ti was just because she was older they didn't care and because of our general brainwashing that anyone with an MD after their name is some kind of genius we have no choice but to take their word.

Cuck, what a. Classic. Meme.

That sounds like socialized medicine to me

Otherwise what, Cletus ?
>try not being poor
No matter how much you pay nobody will be ever able to diagnosis something as "common" as a fucking Lyme disease because the available tests are terrible and useless. It has nothing to do with money and everything to do with the implication of the therapist.

Lived in a city where a doctor was recycling syringes to save a few bucks.
MRI tomorrow, possible tumor, just kill me now.

>I still don't understand how people can trust the so-called "specialists". I


But they are educated which means they are superior.

I thought that was the European way?

They aren't there to help you. They're there to make money. Just like everywhere.

If you die on their watch it's a "whoops"

Cousin kept losing sight( going completely blind for up to few minutes in both eyes ) doc told him he has to wait nearly two months for a ct scan.
Ah yes the glory days of socialised healthcare.

Btw if they find out that you will donate your organs when you die they might "accidently" forget to save you, just a small redpill

>Btw also explain your situation in this thread, I'm interested
Various symptoms ruining my life since a year and nobody is able to tell me the beginning of a valid answer. Everyone is going with their own speculations without doing anything to confirm their hypothesis.

At least it was "free" right?

the fact care is so expeinsive here can make the idea of getting a second opinion a non-starter...

If your Insurance restricts you to a single primary care MD you;d have to pay bigly out of pocket for that second opinion... she wasn't rich

Yeah I almost died for free :^)

This.

Shoulder bursitis (if they got that one right) - no help.

Fucked up cruciate ligaments in one knee - no help.

my anxiety and depression got misdiagnosed as schizophrenia and psychosis and I lost 2 years of my youth as a zombie and gained 100 lbs/45kg.

No one was accountable.

My mother had a surgery as a child to replace her hip with one made of cement. Chronic pain and fucked up back ensued for the rest of her life. Later doctors prescribed her heavy painkillers and got her addicted to tons of shit, including morphine.

No one accountable.

i simply cannot trust doctors because they get the most simple things wrong
for an example, currently im sick, yesterday i went to the doc, ( i have trouble breathing, yellow spit, coughing like crazy, neckpain, sore throat etc )
so he just said, its an viral infection, take 2 days off of work, and that was it
what really pissed me off was, 2 days only ? thats 2 short, also, yellow spit and a nut taste when coughing indicates a bacterial infection, not a viral one
there is no chance, that its only a viral infection, it can only be a bacterial one or a superinfection, but never just a viral infection
so i went home, and really thought about it, he studied for years, works as a doc for decades, has to do with this kind of stuff everyday, and cant even tell a bacterial infection versus a viral one

It's always been free to die.

long time ago
the smart and wise in the information age should do his medical research by him self in addition to the specialists doctors opinion

The fact that I've undergone 12 surgeries in the last 5 years, none of which have produced a lasting effect.
Then about a year ago I found God and I managed to completely alleviate my illness on my own, no doctors needed.
Never visiting the (((hospital))) again.

MRI are not as trustworthy as you think sciencealert.com/a-bug-in-fmri-software-could-invalidate-decades-of-brain-research-scientists-discover

I lost trust in medical science when I became a social scientist. Our standards are shit. We don't know anything, but we compare our standards to medical science and justify our crappy jobs. That means they suck as bad as we do.

Dated a girl whose mom was an ER doctor. This is true.

Doctor you pulled me from my mom by C-section did this unnecessarily. My mom could have done natural birth but the doctor was lying (to many women) saying C-section is necessary. All because this was more convenient for him to schedule and he wanted to play golf. He lost his license to practice medicine, but still, it says a lot... how many doctors are doing this kind of thing and are not caught? I bet it's many of them

On top of that I was prescribed Paxil as a teenager just because I was moody, I was a fucking teenager... Paxil nearly made me kill myself and had awful side effects, when I tell doctors it's no help they double my dose, then triple it, I am just a kid so I take it. I don't know better. My parents don't know better.

tl;dr never trust doctors

But but you don't have to declare bankruptcy or something.

TK might be my fav raid.

True, but then you come to them with your own ideas about your situation and they just brush you under the carpet while writing a quick "probable hypochondriasis" on their piece of personal paper.

no shit. Welcome to capitalism, but it still provides a worlds league ahead in services compared to communism

Nobody ever believed soft science was real though. At least medical school teaches the rote memorization that might come in handy. Still can't wait to replace them with fucking robots.

nigger what. that is straight up criminal

the emergency room is for trauma dipshit. if you're really concerned about getting specialist care the ER is not the place to get it

>The fact that I've undergone 12 surgeries in the last 5 years,

Good God!
What were they trying to do remove the dutch smugness gene from your body?

Fpbp

I was personally misdiagnosed with diabetes for a year, that whole year I was in shock how someone who lives as healthy as I do (low sugar, water, low processeed food, lots of veg etc)could possibly have diabetes. Year later I got tested again and my sugar levels were fine, apparently dipshit doc forgot you're meant to test after the patient has fasted for 10 hours instead of 40 mins after the patient drank a 600ml coke... just facepalm.

The emergency room is for emergencies and it was emergencies. Besides it's the first door to get a referral to an actual specialist since trying to get an appointment "on your own" is borderline impossible.

Did she have any other symptoms than pain?
This is objectively a medical mistake, even if the diagnosis was bursitis they should have at least made an ultrasound to confirm this.
At the very least she should have been told to come back in a short time for further examination if the symptoms hadn't disappeared.
Also, a heating pad is fucking retarded. She should have received pain killers if it was a bursitis.
Care to share some more information about what you were suffering from and what they did?
Do you mean blood loss, or did you actually have any lasting damage?
This is actually a very hard case.
It can be extremely difficult to identify skin cancer in some cases.
I'm sure you know what a planter wart looks like. Do you know if what she had really looked like one? I guess the doctor used cryotherapy (froze the skin)?
Was the original spot removed?

Skin cancer is still a disease that is extremely hard to recognise. The difference between a benign birthmark and a melanoma can also be extremely subtle, and if you are worried about this you should ask your GP to send you to a dermatologist.

Any way, ask a med student anything.

>ignoring the stories from america

After menopause my mother started getting UTIs every other month or so. This went on and on and they just kept giving her antibiotics for it.
She now has permanent tenitus and her tendons are all fucked up from the fluoroquinolones (which for some reason are prescribed like candy). No only can she now no longer use these antibiotics ever again if she actually has something that needs them, but her quality of life is severely diminished.

Meanwhile we managed to stop the UTIs reoccurring finally by her just taking a d mannose supplement after the doctors ran out of antibiotics to give her and giving up.

I almost died at 9 because they misdiagnosed type 1 diabetes as a stomach flu

Our medical system is not worth what we pay for it. Id rather have a socialized system that would at least pay for my meds, since i already have to do the diagnosing myself.

>apparently dipshit doc forgot you're meant to test after the patient has fasted for 10 hours instead of 40 mins after the patient drank a 600ml coke.

Jesus christ that is very basic.

But again these people are educated and superior so I should not question it.

A colleague of mine had his baby cry all the time. He took it to the doctor multiple times but was told "oh its just colic, just make sure he is in motion".

Few months a friend told him to visit some weird guy who could press the feet or something and tell what is wrong (sounds crazy i know). He told my colleague that there was something wrong with the babys intestines, and that they should go to hospital ASAP.

At the hospital they discovered that the baby had his intestines entangled.

Doctors in this country are utter shit. I have 2 other colleagues and some friends etc who also have bad experiences with the health services here.
They will just prescribe some random drugs because the pharmaceuticals are in everyone's pocket.

can't do double blind social science research, but then again you'd know that if you did real science. you call what you do science but you skip the hard parts that might prove you wrong

Protip

If you go to the Emergency Room for your medical care they will rule out things that will kill you immediately acutely. Then when it's not something that will kill you they give you an idea of what it could be and then tell you to follow up with your primary care.

When you don't do that and then it turns out to be something different (like cancer or something as insidious) it kills you or your loved ones.

Blame the doctors all you want but there's still a good portion of the blame at your own feet.

I live near the national defense headquarters and walk by the building at night quite often. I always see the same security guard working and he is always playing world of Warcraft without fail

I have a rare (or at least the doctors told me it is rare) blood disease that I'm not sure is communicable or not. Idiopathic Immune Thrombocytopenic purpura. Basically my immune system attacks my own platelets from time to time. However learning that I had it was different story.

When I was 17 I noticed red spots on my legs. Went to the hospital, doctor said I likely had leukemia. 3 days in the hospital, blood samples taken every 6 or 8 hours. I was 6 feet tall and in the pediatric ward with nothing to do but watch VHS tapes in 2012. 3rd day rolls around Doctor says I only have a rare blood disease where a small cut could result in profuse bleeding that could end in death via blood loss and that I should count myself lucky. I guess I was lucky. Said I could go back to school, but the school made me stay home for 3 and a half months since I was on steroids. When I got back to school they gave me 3 binders filled with the work I needed to make up.

Not dead yet at least...

>. Id rather have a socialized system

Fuck you

Doctors have become the new priests, their word is law to many people. Even if they have no idea what's going on. They still know a lot but they don't know everything.

Pain in the diaphragm goes to the shoulder, so maybe something abdominal was going on. But yeah doctors don't put much effort into a diagnosis, either because there's too many patients or because they just don't care.

As opposed to paying for it yourself?

That niggah is farming ashes of al'ah so all is forgiven.

When I heard about how a few years back they busted something like 3k clinics in SoCal committing massive medicare fraud. Some doctors were just inventing strange treatments and billing it to medicare because the gibberment has no oversight. I recall a woman who had something like 5 million dollars worth of unnecessary treatments. For profit healthcare is fucked up.
Also that page about the cancer researcher in the MDE book

Dutch smugness is not genetic it's a result of living in the most advanced country in the world.

Do yuros understand that you will always have worse doctors and treatment because your healthcare is socialized? There isn't the incentive for the best to be doctors and nurses, and it's getting that way in the US too with all the healthcare regulation. The very best care will always be the most expensive, that's why doctors here aren't fuck ups as often, but it's getting worse

>sick in hospital
>flip nurse tries to take my blood for samples
>misses my vein 5 times with needle
>qt euro chick nurse comes in and tells the dumb-as-piss flip to fuck off
>qt nurse gets it right on first attempt
>feelsgood

yea but fug hopsitals, many such cases.

>healthcare is free now
>you just have to wait 6 months / a year in case of emergency that requires immediate operation
JUST

>Did she have any other symptoms than pain?
None that she shared with me this was years ago now so its too late to sue.

by the time I recovered enough from my grief and contacted a lawyer they told me the window to sue for malpractice had closed.

>be fat
>have shit veins
>blame the nurse
fuck you

Nice argument

When I realized that there is a terrible lack of consensus in the medical field. Shit, they can't even agree about Vitamin recommendations or about ASA toxicity, even though we've been studying both for hundreds of years.

Studied medical for a year, despite not being interested in it(indian parents,wanted me to be a doctor and I fell for the "doctor and engineer are the only professions that pay" meme). I couldn't take the amount of jewry that everyone even remotely related to medical practices.
Doctors and people in medical are the most heartless people, and a person should never trust a doctor. Not even in matters unrelated to medical.
They make it a point to jew their patients out of money,its not even funny. They have "tie-ups" with pharmas, and will prescribe the most expensive pills to you regardless of what you need.
Useless checkups, tests, scans, and then some more. Of course, they don't stop there. Some become so obsessed with "being the jew" that they start pointing out illnesses that don't exist, for more money. Some go the opposite, doing their job shittily and still earning the same, because "doctor knows best"

>Asian "nurses" always caused higher than usual pain when drawing blood from me.

WTF?

GO to work you lazy shit.

I'm sorry for you user.

The message for all people in this thread should be: if the diagnosis is right, the treatment should work.
If the treatment does not work, go back to the doctor immediately.

>Do you mean blood loss, or did you actually have any lasting damage?
Both

Older doctors here are godly. New ones are literally killing hundreds.

When I went to the hospital last year with abdominal spasms. It felt like the muscle of my abs was ripping apart. They scanned me in one of those things, let me lay in a bed for 6 hours in excruciating pain, then told me they didn't know what was wrong with me and gave me a 900 dollar bill.

I refused to pay them. Took it to court. They didn't even open a file on me, there was proof of a check in, but no tests or doctor saw me according to their systems. Sadly they are the default hospital around here so if anything crazy happens there isn't even a different hospital I can request they take me to next time.

I'm just gonna ignore my health until i die, I've had a good life.

When it took 4 doctors a year to diagnose a persistent cough, ranging from a "confirmed diagnosis" of Mono, viral "untreatable" bronchitis, lung cancer, etc. Eventually a specialist noticed some wax buildup in my deeper ear, cleaned it, and the coughing ended immediately. Though the years of coughing have permanently damaged my bronchial tubes, and now, hilariously, I'll always have a tiny, wheezing cough.

Fuck hospitals, always go to a specialist.

Dad said a doctor wanted to operate 2 years old me to cure reflux, he was pushing the surgery and it was completely unnecessary

When I graduated from Medschool.

Most doctors here are just lazy assholes, and all nurses are lazy assholes.

One of my patients died last week because the nurse team didn't want to leave their room, and they literally lost the crash cart somewhere inside the hospital and didn't want to get it.

The 32 years old guy didn't survive as I was left alone to revive him and didn't have any medication.

Most new medications are sold to doctors and start being used through nice dinners and free office stuff, including a $5k laptop I got last year from GSK.

Most medical papers or any health related paper is ghost written.

At least half the other doctors believe in God and are a bit anti-science.

Nothing really matters and people die in the hospital every day and become just a forgotten, blurred, shadowed image in the lives of everyone around them.

>my imaginary illnesses got confused with another imaginary illness and I almost died
Modern medicine

If you're alive it wasnt an emergency you stupid moron

Well that is why they call the doctors office a "practice".

They are practicing on you.

i thought your country was some socialist paradise where doctors grew on trees? if i want to see a specialist i talk to my general practitioner and he sets it up, i dont go to the fucking ER and try to demand a neurological consult. sounds like you have no fucking idea what you're talking about

Kill urself tripfag

Doctor Strange pls go.

The issue is that the doctors are aging and will be retiring soon. There's going to be a shortage, but there will be no one to stop it.

>Pain in the diaphragm
this is absolutley amazing .

here's why.. when visiting her in the Hospital a few days before she died I leaned over to kiss her goodby and placed my left hand on her abdomen and she winced in pain.

It was then despite being told they planned to send her home do get on Chemo that she was going to die.

I held myself together till I got out to the parking lot , found a dark empty corner and burst out crying.. I balled my heart out..

When I got hospitalized for an allergic reaction to a antibiotic. Was forced to stay in a hospital bed, take an mri and ultrasound test. Stayed there for a week with no treatment whatsoever, liver was fucked up so i received no medication during my stay.

Long story short i paid 4,800 for a week at a hospital, bed ridden.


Mother fuckers didnt know what was wrong with me. Said i had fucking bar virus. Went to see an allergist when i got out and he confirmed it was the antibiotics I received.

Cryotherapy. Mind you, this was after months of telling her to use topical creams and such.

So, cryotherapy. Reacted strangely, that is, didn't go away and then grew.

Doctor noticed root. Had test. Came back as cancer. Cut off about a quarter of her lower foot.

He fucked up for months.

When I was 15 in hospital needed a colonoscopy super quick because they thought I had septicaemia because I was a child no one would operate apart from one fat greasy doctor who would only do it if I had private healthcare had to wait a month and luckily it wasn't septicaemia if it was I would have probably died but instead it was crohns day disease and the treatment I've been given has done nothing being ill almost everyday with loads of stomach pain has made me not be able to hold down jobs had about 5 but each one sacks you for not going in

I trust the medial situation even less when dealing with so many foreigners.

I should really trust the schooling of some indian faggot?

NOPE.

I forgot to add.

Most doctors are very shitty students and don't really know anything about other medical areas or even their own, if it's not something from their every day work.

So, in doubt, instead of trying to fix the patient, they just quickly prescribe some generic cookie cutter medication and leave the side effects (or treatment failure) for the patient to deal with.