WHY MEMETIC WARFARE WAS INEFFECTIVE IN AU / NL

You want to know what went wrong and why it will go wrong again in France and Germany? Well, the answer is simple. At least for germany. And I think the problem is the same for EU in general:

- Our normies are more convervative regarding social media. Most of them are on facebook, still, organized in circle jerk groups. Some are on Twitter, too.

- Most of them don't know what plebbit even is. Nearly noone knows what Sup Forums is.

- Normies here don't read english stuff. You need to approach them in their foreign language. It's not that they don't know english, they just prefer something in their language to something english 100% of the time.

- They are very very normal normies. They are more pretty much stuck in the 90s and nobody has any new or provocative ideas. The stuff that counts as radical here is normal centrist politics from an american point of view. Even the "far right wing" guys are just saying stuff that would be normal to say as a classical republican.


If we want to meme Le Pen or Petry we need normie memes much tamer than for the US, in german and french, and we need to mainly spread them on facebook and a bit Twitter, maybe even create circle jerk movement groups ourselves.

Memetic warfare in the US compared to it in the EU is like comparing an open battle to house-to-house fighting.

It get's much hard from here on. And it won't be pretty, and we might have to do things we never wanted to do. But we need you, shitposters of the world. Don't falter.

The biggest problem is language and humor. Shared anglo culture and language makes it easy for Anglos to meme.

Euro fags only see the malice and outrage, we don't know how to make them laugh.

I think Eurofags like the Benny Hill theme alot, we should use that more. Maybe some air brushed photos of children eating chocolate too, they are a simple people.

Think of humor your grandma would laugh about and you are on the right track.

Pic related says "Elke, I have to stop now, my food is burning."

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90's Preach user

Here is another example.

"How nice it would be to work with professionals!"

..... It's really horrible. This guy Ruthe is really really popular here.

All wrong.

The main difference and problem is the parliamentary system the EU countries use.

Brexit was lucky in that it wasn't about electing Farage to be Prime Minister or his party to have the majority.

NL was a success.

If you want to, start your own media company. Look up "1287 Global Engagement Center" and apply for funding. There is roughly $60 million to be spread out among private entities, schools, organizations etc. you just need to be living in an ally nation of USA. Program will be finalized around June 2017, then you will work with USA informing your local community

why do people think this was a loss?
ok, the minority party didn't take the biggest chunk of the seats, but may yet get into power in a coalition government.
I thought that suits /pol better, since there were many objections to the other parts of his policies.

This.

subversive cunt

This is a problem but OP is definitely right about language, I noticed this for the Austrian elections

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"And that's why you don't tap the glass."

It's... Oh god fuck it, just nuke us please.

For the Austrian ones I'd agree but the majority of Dutch can speak English.

I wouldn't worry about language much with the French either.

Maybe it's better we leave them to their fates.

It's quite simple, we've gotta make normie memes
Shit grandma would share, funny caption on stock greeting card images

We've gotta go full Facebook-group-tier normie

>Elke
>Carolin
?!?!?

kek

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Oh ffs
Granted, it's not like you need to be good to be popular in the US either, pic very related.

fug, Carolin of course. Just read another one with Elke.

-> Most of the time in germany the memes are used in a literal, completely wrong and unfunny way. Example: This one says "Give that man a cookie."

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>Normies here don't read english stuff.
Speak for yourself Kraut sandwich

We don't dub every single fucking anglo TV show with shitty native langueage voiceovers like you do fritz

Just do normaal homos. We dutch are too sober/stoïc/down to earth. We see right through deception

this one says "Why don't you reply you buffoon?"

Gott im Himmel! Deutsches Humor tut mir immer sofort weh.

fuck german humour is soooooooo bad. soooooooo fucking bad. it's unreal. and then you learn german and realized it is all really that bad.

so bad. you should all be brutally sacrificed to the god of humour for your sins against laughter and fun and smiling and happy puppies and good things and sunshine.

10 years in your country and i turned into a miserable, depressed, cynical bastard.

though i do recommend berlin if you are into techno or house. best parties in the world.

Bump for justice.

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It's true, though. Normies get triggered when they see English. Sure, we can all read it in the Netherlands, but we hate seeing it. These were Dutch elections. Fuck off with your anglo shit.

"The moment when you realise you drank too much."

It's really really really bad.

This. Absolutely This.
This a hundred times.

Why does the rent is too damn high man give men cookies?

Geert is a narrow shouldered angry manlet without any charisma.

That's where your "meme magic" failed.

>faggots shitpost 24/7 on a Turkish bobsledding forum
>get like, 2 instances of repeating meme ouija
>WHY DID WE LOSE
Kek tried to tell you but you were too busy screeching like fucking retards

>They are very very normal normies. They are more pretty much stuck in the 90s and nobody has any new or provocative ideas. The stuff that counts as radical here is normal centrist politics from an american point of view. Even the "far right wing" guys are just saying stuff that would be normal to say as a classical republican.

>If we want to meme Le Pen or Petry we need normie memes much tamer than for the US, in german and french, and we need to mainly spread them on facebook and a bit Twitter, maybe even create circle jerk movement groups ourselves.

Good points. Additionally, a massive portion of the meme-making man power is lost in other languages, especially smaller less relevant ones like dutch. Basically, the euros need to kick the meming into overdrive. Monolingual americans, brits, and other bilingual english-native european countries are going to have far too much lost in translation AND not be able to make memes as culturally relatable.

Thanks JIDF

Interesting perspective germanbro. Have a bump.

because they didn't get the joke and are now just using the picture in a completely unrelated, unfunny way

welcome to germany

"Why I'm so tired? Because I wasn't finished sleeping when the alarm went off."

Yes this counts as "humor".
People share it on monday mornings.
On facebook. In their cooking group.
And people reply with :'D
It's bad.

These are terrible. Unengaging as fuck. I don't even get it.

How would Germanfags react to truly spicy memes in German?

People would not get it, or, if they get it, get offended.

YESTERDAY = The proof that Europe is a lost cause. KEK IS AMERICAN! Fuck off globalists!

Can we just like nuke you guys? I feel embarrassed for Germany.

Fuck man. I'm not sure I can work with that.

Our biggest enemies are the words populist, far right and racist
We need to get rid of them or find similiar words for the other candidates

Given those, I think we need not stoop on their level, but one steep higher. Upgrade German "humor", revamp their memes, then again and again until the end.

"Today 70% of women make photos like this."

And btw there is nothing to "get" about it. It's just Merkel like waiting for something. It's really only the facial expression and some random sentence.

Everybody knows Jerries have no sense of humour, and the French despise anyone speaking English despite the fact most of them speak it.

I was ignored in a small store in southern france when trying to buy cigarettes speaking english. She just didn't look at me at all till I left the store.

Good point.

Also this, meme police starting in June: It looks like its gonna be all out ideology war.

"Old people be like I'm driving fast so I don't forget where I'm going."

Because the language used on everything is English, and we were able to meme ourselves in English speaking MSM.

It's hard for us to meme Rutte as being worse than Wilders when we know nothing about the guy and even less about Dutch politics.

I still reckon Le Pen can and will win, French people are pretty sick of the state of their country.

Isnt i basically this?

>We see right through deception
Clearly not.

I don't speak any european language, but how about making comics of people who support their favourite candidate, but twist to have them conveying the idea that the support of that candidate is better than being dead?

Seems like the sort of bland, deadpan humor Europeans enjoy, while at the same time drawing unfavorable parallels. Or just making comics that compare the liberal candidates to being better than something that is obvious distasteful or bad.

"I voted Merkel because at least I don't have to sleep with her like my wife".

idk, I'm just spin balling off the dome piece here.

If you were a frog would there be anything worse than a German speaking in the Anglo-Saxon tongue?

Checked, we should pass our memes around pol to inspire others.

point taken

Is this too edgy?

>le minion maymays xD

Here's the issue bro. All the humor you're showing is so fucking safe.

In the US humor is about hard and uncomfortable truths. It's the perfect vector for red pills. It's a much harder to meme a g rated redpill.

It's like we need to meme a sympathetic nationalist caricature or something. But we probably can't call him a nationalist... o.0

I'd propose trying to leverage your Nazi guilt into getting you to step the fuck back form the EU because it's tyranny, but I feel like that's so obvious it's probably been tried.

Also, german humor for normies is mostly centered around door mats, stickers on cars and shirts. Here is an example.

"The man is in command in here."
smaller font
"If the woman is not there."

western european are liberals to the bone
i spent some time in Bonn and it was pretty common seeing niggers and muslims with white aryan girls, no one seemed to care.
there is no turning back.

Good point, we didnt raise enough, memes, oija nor the manpower.

forgot pic

"The man is in command in here."
smaller font
"If the woman is not there."

The reason it failed is because it was too forced

If you push an idea too hard or use the same methods for an idea that's incompatible with the methodology of one idea to the next you're begging to be cucked by forces we don't have any understanding of

Remember how Milhouse was a meme?

(On a random sidenote I work with a methhead we call Milhouse and he is the definition of a living meme, I would provide evidence of this but don't think 2017 Sup Forums deserves to experience such glory)

kek did nothing wrong!

I agree.

Au was a close call, so it's potentially salvagable at a later date.

Nl wasn't close - the EU is collapsing, we're 3 years into a hostile migrant invasion with the week preceeding the election seeing direct interference in Dutch affairs by a Muslim dictator who implicitly threatened civil war, with Muslims in the Netherlands chimping out - and the overwhelming majority of Dutch voters backed suicidal, anti-Dutch, anti-European, parties.

The fucking Animal Rights Party got over 1/4 as many seats as Wilders and PVV.

The Netherlands has shown that it is completely beyond redemption. Any non-suicical, non self-hating, Dutch should GTFO ASAP because it's impossible to see what might redpill enough normies to save the country via democratic means and the ever increasing proportion of the population/electorate made up of hostile foreign scum means that 'democratic means' will not be viable for the native people much longer.

yes it's too confronting, we need even shittier memes

"They are simple people"
We build the fucking world Cleetus.

People would not get it.
And Europe rising again would be taken as racist.

Exactly. This is what I'm saying.
BUT THERE MIGHT BE HOPE!
GERMANS ARE CYNICS!

This could be a way to redpill.
For example stuff like "My refrigerator broke. Those damn russian hackers" was spread in the last weeks.

Why are Finnish memes of such superior quality? Are Russian memes acceptable because they themselves are a meme nation? What are Swedish memes like?

Start the meme machine for France.

I really forgot how unfunny german normies are, i lost touch with reality

I think this is really good meme for facebook.

waaaaaay to edgy

it actually hasnt been tried as german humour is still in its baby phase.


there is a reason my flag is a leaf now and no longer one of several european countries. at least i have innawoods out my backdoor whereas europe will be the zombie apocalypse

What if... We take those memes, as in that exact image, same delivery, same overall feeling, but we replace the words with our rhetoric? Sarah Andersen style?

humourless people

utterly humourless.

which is why you were prized for being fucking autistic engineers and shit and NOTHING ELSE

The nationalist IC factions gave small fry inconsequential NL to the globalists without a fight to trick them into relaxing. Now the globalists think France will be another cakewalk. They'll soon learn otherwise.

Cynic and dry humor works best with germans.

But on the subject of awful german humor
>Mario Barth

>You want to know what went wrong

Sup Forums went all in on a fucking aardappel

>Why it will go wrong again in France and Germany?

They're about to do the same thing on a baguette and her scheißekartoffel sidekick?

I have some good antifa false flag ideas in mind.

"Attacking the 1% is attacking 48% of the Jewish community. Fight antisemitism!" Something like that.

How doesn't that cynicism feed some form of Euroskepticism? Just that you guys run the show? I know you have a real hang up about control.

Kek

most afd wählers probably like mario barth tho

I don't mind making memes for Germany. Do you know a reliable translator online? From English text to German? That would nice.

>Any non-suicical, non self-hating, Dutch should GTFO ASAP

This. Non-Anglo nations are a lost cause. Your cultures are just to collective and conformist.

This. Every Europoor here on Sup Forums is exposed to anglo culture and gets the humor. In Germany even Monty Python has voice over.

>Most of the French speak English
Yeah, no, they don't which is really infuriating.

Why didn't you ask for "les cigarettes porvavor"? I bet that would of made them really mad. Gotta try that out next time I'm in France.

oh yeah btw rare gif.

>superior
>every single meme is a weird deformed derivative of pedobear

to be fair we burgers have tons of bland normie memes on social media. We didn't have to make such memes because we had enough normies spreading them anyway. I think what you're trying to say is you guys don't have a trendy young population that can get into better humor and that frequents Sup Forums, reddit etc. Is krautchan not that popular?

make comics and post them, if they're good they'll stick.

I hate to pick up this weapon, but could we bludgeon Germany into stepping back from their leadership role in the EU on moral ground. Along the lines of "when you fuck up Europe for the third time" sort of thing?

I think you should go the other way. Rather than try to meme ethnonationalism, masquerade as a very blatantly anti-white Muslim. Like when a girl gets raped by a refugee laugh about it and say she deserved it for being a slut.

To demonstrate.
Pic 1 for the first phase.

Sup Forums memeing worked for Trump because Hillary was an easy target. Sup Forums effectively cancelled out the character assassination being perpetrated by the MSM on Trump. Trump was also very memetic himself, his words were easy to carry into the cultural subconscious, such as his slogan and "build the wall". Memes in support of him worked because he was a natural focusing agent for memes.

I guess my point is, you need to be memeing against those you want to lose, not memeing for those you want to win. politics 101

I'm worried that would shift them even further left.

Maybe German humor has ascended ours.

Land of thinkers and poets, you uneducated maple nigger.

Go suck off a moose, eh

The Dutch anons failed their country. They should have been fucking translating memes like crazy but weren't and it shows. They caused this fail.

I germany they usualy just take a meme picture and slap just whatever on it, no matter the original reason it became a meme.

The main problem: you're dealing with multi-party systems, and with full fledged socialists, it's the antithesis of what we have here. Their politicians are too bland to make a valid statement like trump, the people to blasé or pompous to vote in their own interest, and the EU has got its cock so far into the asses of the governments i don't know if it can unfuck itself.. France might be our best bet. Germany is set to elect a traitorous bastard, guilty of skulduggery and has quoted that it only exists to serve Jews. Le Pen must win, we must elevate her, we should start a rolling thread get the meme machine running.