Monarchism

Are there any monarchists on /pol?

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yes

It's their "DIVINE" right to do so :^)

A good king is a dead king.

This apart, the problem of monarchism is that if can work extremely well with a proper king and then go to shit because his oldest son is incapable and there is no way to remove him.

A better system is the chinese one. Absolute emperor but if things are bad you can legally kill the emperor because obviously the heavens disfavor him and want him dead.

I'd support monarchy if there were actually any royal families left. All the modern royal families are degenerate as fuck and probably Jewish puppets. We need new royal families first.

Plenty of larpers

Oh. So that's what Sup Forums stands for.

I don't consider myself a "monarchist" but I do believe monarchy can make great countries, like England for instance

Lifetime rule encourages rulers to make decisions that benefit the nation in the long term rather than ones that only appease people for 4 years.

The 1700s called, they want their political system back.

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Monarchy and libertarianism go hand in hand. Read Hoppe.

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>what is regicide

no

You might want to check your sources for that
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_II_of_Russia

monarchy's have alot of advantages but it ultimately out of date. in England for example lords are incorruptible because they own everything among themselves anyway. when you listen to the elected politicians and the lords the contrast is clear.

Inbreeding for political reasons really limits how effective monarchy can be

>monarchy
>bowing to subhuman inbred cannibals and pedophiles

There are no really legitimate monarchs left, the tzar was the last one.
We will need a civilization collapse for new lines to earn their claims.
Theres nothing inherently wrong with it.

No, now fuckoff

Yes, but not in the sense of "traditional Monarchy"

I believe we should have a caste of rulers that are not chosen but rather bred, and prepared trough education for their entire life prior to rule.

Democracy is degenerate. You are putting a blind fate into someones capability to rule, based only on his promise that he will do good.

Yes. Monarchism is the final red pill.

>Monkey noises
You're just mad because your King is a Lion.

>t. I took the Liberalism Renaissance-meme so serious I literally created a nation based off of it that eventually became a pseudo-socialist oligarchy in disguise
The peasantry are out in full force I see. Pitchforks and everything, so cute.

this

The false promise of democracy is that anyone can climb up the ladder. What u end up with is endless cycle of people stumping on each other for power, and stumping on the capability of society to have long term reforms for the better.

Hi

I make ~400k a year from algo trading. I'm not one of the "plebs".

Monarchy is bullshit, because monarchs are unremarkable ugly subhumans. Most are race mixed too.

Elites should be based on race, but not in an arrogant bourgeoisie way, rather in just a way of role division and racial segregation.

Basing class on hereditary arbitrary leadership (monarchy) results in cannibalistic pedophiles running your societies.

I don't support corporate oligarchy either. Erisianism (non centralized authority) with a national socialist economic system is the best approach.

Yes. A hispanist monarchist.

Yeah but did the Russian Orthodox church officially certify that the Bolsheviks killed all of the Romanov children? I think not.

>your King is a Lion

wut

Too many people are Mixing Monarchy (an inherited rule) with the Corrupt Families having Absolute Power.

Monarchy it self can be applied in million and one way.

Think of government like property, you have private owners they take care of the property and try to make improvements

Public owners or renters simply try to maximize their profit from the property during my their tenure

OP is american, you can't have monarchy because you were not blessed with a royal Family.

Im a brasilian monarchist. We will never saw good times in our history since the end of our monarchy...

How do you feel about his descendents trying to get back into power.

New Royal Blood. Make them mate based on eugenics and we create the perfect Herrenrasse and Arthur de Gobineau can finally rest in peace knowing we have restored the legacy of his Ruler Race.

No interbreeding. Only beneficial racial breeding. We make sure the genetics survive and do everything in power to preserve the status quo of the king. Kinda like the selection of Kim Jong Un. Entirely based off of the desirable traits that will ensure the survival of the nation.

It's a dark occult leadership structure though.

Dictatorial power is always dark occult.

Our emphasis on Hitler as opposed to the vrill society from nat soc Germany is an elitist psy op. The vrill were the good guys, race realists too, but they weren't sadistic and cared about spiritual ascension.

You will always result in sadism in the upper "classes" with a dark occult hierarchy, because that mentality creates an arrogant mindset.

You're emphasizing too much on the 3 density material values.

Being beautiful and intelligent is not enough to be a good leader, spiritual emphasis should be taken too.

Higher spiritual ascendance is axiomatically opposed to centralized authority.

Yes
A strong aristocracy is the foundation of a successful democracy

That is exactly why i would put a constitution above Monarch, with constitutional court that protects it, and army that enforces it.

Constitution must protect rights of population, and set some guidelines; like the long term strive of population towards knowledge and spirituality, freedom of speech and so on

it would be neo Monarchical Constitutional Republic. If that makes sense

I prefer Erisianism.

Decentralized authority structure of miny societies as opposed to megacities, which focuses on agriculture, and rigorous scientific development, all in tandem with spiritual ascendance work.


Installing leaders leaves for risk of coups.

I think he was making a king of the jungle reference.

Yes

I think that has same problem as Democracy does, more you polarize the control more factions u will have that want to rule over others.

they're not REALLY trying tho.
Not really.

>American Monarchism

What?

Yea

Spirituality is one thing but religiosity is a genetic trait, if we use nature to breed a good ruler that rule can achieve both political and spiritual ascendance trough actions and higher learning/wisdom.

It is too optimistic to try and get a lot of people (or everyone) to ascend to a higher spiritual plain. There needs to exist a societal pyramid that consists of lesser intellectual beings.

>blacks are bad because they are welfare queens doing fuckshit all day and causing trouble
>royal families are good because they're welfare monkeys (times 1000) doing fuckshit all day

Monarchy, yes. But it takes the right monarch.

Everyone owns firearms and has precedents set for coups.

In short, it depends on the majority of society being spiritually higher minded.

I would understand supporting dictatorship/fascism but monarchism seems so primitive in modern age. In the past church told the population to obey the monarch but nobody really respects the church anymore.

Yes

Your mindset is the same as the current pedophile sadist larps who think they're some pre adamite race above all of us.

It results in horrors. This nonsense has been tried for thousands of years, what makes you think your iteration wont devolve into something monstrous yet again?

Enough is enough. We need to ascend in consciousness. For every Marcus Aurelius there's 10 Commodus's.

But u must not create Society that is grounded on faith that humanity will do good things. That is sadly almost always doomed to failed.

>We need to
We tried that "no child left behind"-bullshit and it literally didn't work because natural genetic differences that govern the literal laws of nature and physics said: " No nigger. It doesn't matter if you're given the same equal opportunity... Your just stupid. It doesn't work".

It is unnatural to enforce equality. Even if it is a psycho-social equality. Your Homo Sovieticus experiment will not work.

It's a matter of spreading truth and proper education.

There is no "human nature" of morality that is good or bad. Your ideology is one of the jewish/masonic mindset, that people must be controlled and that we're inherently evil.

This is simply not true. We are not evil or good by default, we can ascend or descend depending on the thoughts and actions we choose moment to moment. This is what free will is.

I agree, ignoring natural differences is in fact stupid.

The races are different species though, and segregation is a must. This doesn't mean we should exterminate the less intelligent races, merely that we need to segregate based on race.

Interesting, I always wanted to know the perspective of a modern monarchist. The last remaining absolute monarchies are all in the middle East.

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Not controlled in totalitarian manner, but u must protect populations freedom. U understand that?

U can not have freedom without that freedom being protected.

Actually your mentality is exactly inverted.

"Protecting" freedom ultimately gives away to coups of evil people who wish to preserve their right to "protect" or control society.

You can have defense systems put in place in a discordian system, and I fervently believe in the second amendment principle of being able to defend against aggressive people.

You don't need centralized authority to have a defense system, merely alternating roles and responsibilities that depend on the level of threat faced by outside societies.

H-hello anonchan

but who is regulating Defense, who is arbitrating between such systems. I am sure u realize that is wild west.

are you retarded my friend?

No. Extermination suits no purpose. But segregation is a must. And within a race you still have genetic differences that need to be accounted for.

For every intellectual white you have a smarter one. For every stupid African you'll find a smart one. These individuals and their genetic traits need to be cared for. And their offspring must rule over the others.

Nature/biology gives fuck all about equality. Even on a psychological level. We can agree on most things but we cannot become one and the same across all fields. Deviants will always exist because deviant behavior is a genetic trait that can be activated by changing ones natural habitat and deviants can be avoided if we identify that trait and delete it by removing such defects from the breeding selection.

We need to actively select the best outcome and start from there. The doctrine of Limpieza de sangre, Blood Purity.

It isn't if we all agree to specific rules (natural law) and roles (citizen roles).

Basically we all follow a "meta law" which is universal to all species, this is called natural law. More a spiritual concept, but also functions like a physical system in reality.

We then have roles, which while not punished if broken, are taken upon in terms of a societal structure of both tedious and rigorous roles simultaneously taken, alternating between.

Defense systems don't need a centralized command structure, because they know their function: defense.

If a country declares war on our discordian ethnostate, we have precedents and plans set to create temporary responsibility for experts in the field.

Again the assumption here is that people in this society are no longer operating from the scarcity materialist jewish mindset, but have ascended to merging both the spiritual and material.

Yes. If needed I will fight until I die to protect my king. Just give the word.

>Again the assumption here is that people in this society are no longer operating from the scarcity materialist jewish mindset, but have ascended to merging both the spiritual and material.
But surely "people" cannot mean all people. You must have a hierarchy.

Yes, eugenics is important.

The important thing is you need to ditch the authoritarian ideology though.

Authoritarian ideology is fundamentally against natural law or truth. This is why pretty much everything the government says is a lie. Their power depends on lies to be sustained, all power does.


We are obviously not equal, but forcing eugenics is a stupid approach that will only result in death squads and camps for dissenters. Better to emphasize spiritual ascension in tandem with physical pairing that emphasizes: intelligence, aesthetics, and moral vigor.

Using the threat of violence to coerce always devolves into monstrosities. Violence is only acceptable in self defense by natural law. Everything you dish out collectively as a society you will take back unto you.

but again mate, that is exactly my problem with it, and usually with any kind of anarchistic structure.
U are assuming that people will follow the rules, that are not written and not imposed. That has problems inside of that system, not to mention in system to system relationships.

This is basically what u are saying; "if we all were good people we could have good state"

I'm here

Hierarchy naturally exists in roles.

We segregate based on race, but all of our race (actually species though) can't live in disdain of another, and should all strive to be better.

This doesn't mean we are all equal, or that we give the village idiot the same role as the genius. This just means that we use benign eugenics to breed out undesirable traits, coupled with our spiritual progress.

Hierarchy in nature is unannounced. A tiger doesn't need to tell the gazelle he is superior physically, that manifests in his abilities.


Part of spiritual ascendance is understanding that the whole of "All" is fundamentally itself. Meaning we are all the mind of God.

The perversion of this ideology however is assuming that because of that fact we are all equal in ability. We aren't. The elites like to twist together imbalances like this. They'll push the hippy "we are all one" ideology which is technically true, but sneak their degenerate all races are equal ideology in there to psy op you.

>oldest son
primogeniture isnt the only form of succession

elective monarchy m8

checking in. monarchist and minarchist.

yep, I am.

Yes, but I'm not assuming that we are intrinsically good or evil, merely that good is a choice.

Being that good is a choice, we could conceivably transition into a system like this by teaching natural law. Which is basically your universal blueprint to being good.

Racial and bodily purity coupled with spiritual purity could radically transform Earth from a jew controlled pedo slave nightmare to basically a paradise.

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Yep.

Aye

Aye

Just to clarify, I believe "races" of humans are actually different species.

Monarchist reporting in.

Such a pity our King is not willing to declare himself Emperor, ban the cuck Tweede Kamer and remove all kebab.

>welfare monkeys
I recommend reading a history book.

No. Monarchs offspring should be bred and brought up as leaders to take over when papa dirs. Elections will quickly fuck things over, majority will rule over common sense not to mention the opportunities for corruption. Natural order of things is in order. Remember than it is much easier to dispose of a singular ruler (good, bad, crazy w/e) than a bunch of privilaged voters. People often bring up people like Caligula when speaking against single rulers but they forget that his reign was very short-lasting when he was assassinated by his own guard for good reasons. Also remember that it took much more than crazy rulers to bring Rome down centuries ater - the foundations and principles it was built on proved strong compared to democracies that not only were a fraction of world's history but always collapsed catastrophically.

I also know for that to be truth. Just like Leopards are different species to Lions.

That's just fucking true man, there's no place for "belief" here. When a nigger impregnates an asian girl, she cannot give a birth normally. The story goes on.

Multiculturalism and "race-mixing" are synoniem to bestiality.

yes

Monarchies are legitimate contrary to republics.

madmonarchist.blogspot.ca/p/myths.html

Problem with monarchy is that it cannot be restored once it gets rekt. Romanovs let Russian people down and officially resigned from power, so finding their descendants and reinstating them is pointless, and putting someone (like our current fingoloid manlet boy loving shabbos goy) as a head of new dinasty is much more so.

If you actually read up on most notable monarchies you'll find that through the ages monarchy provided capable and generous, aswell as pious leaders fighting for their territories, nations and people.

The MM is seriously based, aside from the weird anime shit.

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Viable offspring, if they were separate species their hybrid children wouldn't be able to procreate.
Having said that chihuahuas are objectively worst dog.

Just take a different succesor line then, you don't necessarily need a Romanov.

monarchies breed weak leaders. hereditary systems are the worst kind of system.

Fascism/Naziism is just Monarchism where the whole nation is apart of the royal family and all work to benefit the crown.

Is monarchists enemy of libertarians?

Yes

Factually wrong.

I don't have that much faith in my king.
I rather have a dictatorship at this point.
a royal house is a great way to attract tourists.

Not necessarily, Monarchy does not define the kind of market and laws the state/kingdom will have.

>polish intelectuals

Lions and tigers are separate species, but they can breed with each other.

A belief that some arbitrary blood line has to rule for life regardless of qualification?
Isn't that what NK does and what the Clintons and Bush tried to do?

Tl;dr Monarchism is shit

>Romanovs let Russian people down
Romanovs let (((Russian))) people down. Your revolutions were orchestrated by the Jews within the country, with some help from GB of course, who were behind the whole communist thing. After all, Marx actually lived and spread his nonsense from London u know.

Read your fucking history man.