What did you make of last weekends public lecture in Ottawa, Canadaa?
youtube.com
Here's the Q&A session that followed the lecture:
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What are you doing to /sortyourselfout/?
What are your thoughts on his comments regarding the 'alt-right' in the Q&A section of the lecture?
bump
Stopping fapping, cutting back on weed, starting to eat healthier and get back into shape.
Taking things one at a time makes sorting much easier.
Why stop masterbation?
I haven't masturbated in just short of a month. Good job. It isn't easy.
Mostly for discipline, not indefinitely though
It's time to
>SORT YOURSELF OUT!
Climbing aboard, Captain.
Can anyone link to the lecture where he talks about the whole "Rescue your father" thing?
One internets to anyone who can link it!
Ofc Sup Forums likes this guy. Haha you guys are so predictable
Do you realise he talks out of his ass and his entire philosophy is based off of Jungian nonsense which no one takes seriously?
You realise he is worth several million because of this nonsense, right?
What about it is nonsense, specifically?
>ecks dee look at these stupid right wing Christians, if only they could be as smart and good looking as Sam Harris
You have to go back
haha, you see you're own short comings when you listen to him, and can't handle it. hahaha
>ofc haha
Your argument boils down to your dislike of his rhetoric and an unsubstantiated claim.
Meanwhile he lectured at Harvard for years.
I'm right there with you man
Getting a steady supply of sex also helps the 'no fap'
Really was an excellent lecture. He can really work a crowd. Not much new content in there though if you've heard most of his lectures on YouTube.
One of thw beat questions is "what exactly are you?", as they guy clearly has hit a nerve in the zeitgeist.
>pic
Why does his face on that body make me feel uncomfortable?
>Bucko
I definitely prefer "Sunshine" as my favourite form of address of his.
Finally finished cleaning all the windows in the house, putting a few hours everyday into studying instead of vidya, cutting back on fapping, waking up earlier. Peterson has given me more motivation to do actually work towards a goal than anything else in my life, what is it about the man that pushes me so? Just listening to his lectures and talks while doing chores has alleviated me of my usual anxiety.
>mfw got into a massive argument on r/canada over Peterson.
Fucking cucks misrepresenting his views
GENDER STUDIES IS THE ONLY PATH OF TRUTH
Yeah it's all nonsense, modern people and their unprecedented levels of depression and mental diseases are way smarter than anyone who came before. Forget Jung and Skinner, let's pay attention to 1968 pseudo psychology.
Because it's making you question your sexuality
Sort it out user
>You realise he is worth several million because of this nonsense, right?
He hasn't even made a single million off his online presence yet, but I would be unsurprised if he became a multi-millionaire as a result of his newfound fame. He's set to rake in a few hundred grand a year just through Patreon.
Is that his wife?
Bump for Jesus.
I'm getting a bit tired of Peterson. Hopefully his Bible series will provide fresh insights.
I don't expect him to take any truly controversial positions, or to stand firmly for anything other than abstract ideals.
can we get a JBP bingo card going?
>Pinocchio
>Gulag Archipelago
>"bloody"
>Jung
>Marxism
>Nihilism
>"Save your father"
>Nietzsche
why am I drawing a blank
Be good, be the best you know you can be; it'll benefit you, your immediate surrounding, and the whole of humanity in the long run.
People aren't stupid, consciously or unconsciously they know what the right thing to do is.
Roughly speaking
You're done
>And that's that!
>Right, right, so...
>(silent pause)
>postmodernists
>dominance hierarchy
>Lion King
>And no (bloody) wonder!
Also
>Piaget
>tfw I'm too fucking stupid to understand what this guy is talking about most of the time.
I feel like it takes all my energy to concentrate and pay attention, and if I drift off for one second I lose all threads of what is going on. How am I supposed to sort myself out?!
Properly
In small chunks. And make notes. And maybe put what you do understand into practice.
>underworld
"I've been thinking about this intensely. For years, man."
That Q&A is great, a guy stood up and asked him about Sup Forums. /ourguy/
Currently reading notes from the underground and beyond good and evil to sort myself out. Also started the gulag archepelago.
>bucko
Watch his lectures first
...
just watch his pinocchio lectures in maps of meaning.
Archetypal
>We were prey animals for a long time!
Not surprisingly, Peterson is good at psychology, but he doesn't know much about political history. At one point he demonstrates an amateur's understanding of politics by conflating the concepts of State and Nation. What's more, he sees anti-semitism through the lense of "resentment of the privileged", which is understandable given his critique of the post-modernists. However, he fails to understand the historic and cultural differences between Christians and Jews which provoke a legitimate critique and mistrust of the Jewish people. Of course, failing to see important cultural divides is to be expected in someone who spends his time dealing with deeply rooted archetypes that manifest on a cross cultural basis.
Nice, I just downloaded the gulag archipelago volume 1 audio book afew minutes ago.
I think next I'll read thus spake Zarathustra or the brothers Karamazov
I know it's a meme but I've unironically been sorting myself out for the past 24 hours, exercising and organizing and reading
>man...
Reading Evola, thinking about proposing to my girlfriend, finishing school, waiting for post-graduation employment decision after interview
Don't even think about reading Zarathustra without at least understanding Beyond Good and Evil.
He is deep into his niche and has a narrow view of the world. He views it all through the same highly refined lens. I also think he is a getting a bit full of himself, believing he is the smartest man in the room on all issues. What he has is specialized knowledge.
>X is no joke
> worth several million
BecUse it's so terrible an educated man who is actually providing meaningful ways of improving yourself makes proper money. And that's only if true
>dragon
>I also think he is a getting a bit full of himself, believing he is the smartest man in the room on all issues.
I would dispute that, as much of his rhetoric conveys a fundamental humility and often when giving pronouncements on matters beyond his field of expertise he is responding to questions asking for his opinions. His comments on the alt-right were a manifestation of this pattern. He was specifically asked for his thoughts on the alt-right, rather that spontaneously offering a detailed critique.
It's funny that he's liked so much here because his politics is so different than most of Sup Forums. Most people can appreciate his psychological self-help ideas "sort yourself out". But he's also against totalitarianism and ideology. He's always talking bad about tribalism and authoritarianism. For a guy that loves Nietzsche so much, you'd think he'd have a better idea about Jews. Same thing with communism, communism was created and spread by Jews. He said one of the first papers he wrote was about Auschwitz, and the horrors of it. I'm just to sure how Sup Forums can reconcile these two separate political beliefs.
Get Sorted
He's sloppy with statistics (not particular ones, just the field) as well, e.g. when he talks of the normal distribution of IQ and says, as if it make an impact, that 15% of people will have IQ below 90. But the fact that ~68% of values are within one standard deviation of the mean is Normal Distrubution 101 and the standard deviation of IQ is 15 points by definition, which means 16% of people would be below 85 and substantially more below 90.
Still a smart man and very entertaining.
>The Alt-Right is ironic because right-wingers complain that the Left always push for big government while they advocate for Nationalism.
Is he right? Is it necessary to conflate Nationalism with authoritarianism?
Yeah that is like over half of the speeches that aren't part of his lecture series, he mentions it in just about every course he does goes into it.
>$0.02 has been deposited
I would've fucking dropped Peterson if that was his wife. Thank God indeed.
It's simple. Sup Forums is less about ideological politics than it is about culture. Sup Forums only seems political because politics is downstream of culture. For most people, ideology simply provides a rationalization of tribal allegiances and cultural values. Peterson's entire spiel consists of powerful cultural tropes, which are deeply rooted in western civilization. He is helping many here understand why the things they think are important or offensive, are so important or offensive. He has many fans here despite challenging some of Sup Forums's popular beliefs, because he is helping those fans to more deeply understand other things they already believe.
srs leftypol needs to go back to their void of no arguments.
He may have simply misspoke. That happens to the best of us.
He needs to read The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit by Dr. E. Michael Jones. Until then i refuse to take his opinions regarding Jews seriously.
SHADILY!
>The Road to Wigan Peir
>Logos
because its not real, its rewarding yourself with a woman that doesnt and never will exist
It's really not that hard. He talks in stories a lot, which makes it much easier to understand, in my opinion.
Although here's a tip - his older stuff is easier to understand than his newer stuff
I feel like these days he's trying to warn everybody about everything, but all at the same time. So he goes off on a few tangents, frantically trying to give everybody the whole picture about what he's learned. And then he says "no, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND" when people laugh at something he's said, because he wants them to know how damn serious it is.
If you look at his old lectures, and his old TVO appearances, they're much more measured. His 90s lectures are on YouTube and they're comfy (but I've never watched one all the way through)
Mainly I've watched his TVO appearances, and snippets of some talks too
I don't watch entire lectures, they're too long for me
Which video is this in? Also this is interesting because I've not heard him address the alt-right before
Surely he must know that many of his followers are alt-righters? Maybe he just doesn't know.
Also here's a thought - I think a lot of the Sup Forums crowd, who normally are liberally racist, offensive, and unabashedly anti-semitic, give Peterson a lot of respect (you can tell from these threads alone).
So I think a lot of the same people who would go on Varg's videos and post "(((THEY))) ARE DESTROYING US! FUCK JEWS AND FUCK NIGGERS!" - they go on Peterson's videos and leave polite, non-offensive comments.
I think this is because, really, all of us are looking for a father figure. We're all looking for somebody who will help us out - who will give us a POSITIVE role of masculinity in the modern world, but who at the same time understands our struggle. Peterson has done that. And I think that's why he resonates so much here.
This speech was probably the best and most put together I've seen of any of his single presentations.
Right at this moment in the video, I really got chills. Definitely the emotional crescendo of the whole talk, you can tell he's really choked up, and the audience is deathly silent when he's done.
>The Q&A
A lot of really intelligent questions from the audience. An obvious highlight was when someone from the crowd mentioned Sup Forums.
I think he's really honing his blade, soon he'll be able to crack into prime time.
He makes me feel really hopeful, although since I'm pretty "sorted" I am really feeling the need to make an impact in my community, and shape the future for my children.
thanks for starting this thread out OP.
wow look at all that lack of arguments!
He's equating the nation with the state, which is a not uncommon mistake among political amateurs. He may also be showing the leftist tendency to equate nationalism with fascism or nazism, which is not surprising in an academic. Most of his exposure to politics would be from an exclusively left wing perspective, and equating nationalism with nazism is an very old and very common leftist canard. So common that most on the left have forgotten that it's pure propaganda.
>tfw fapped to shemale porn again and then at 2 pints of ben and jerry's
Sure but it suggests a lack of familiarity with basic rules of thumb in stats. Anyone doing stats will be able to tell you 16% of people are below 85 IQ even if you wake them up in the middle of the night to ask that question, it's a basic obvious thing so it sticks out like a sore thumb when wrong.
I had a 1 on 1 with JBP on Monday, he mentioned how you can never remove something from your life without replacing it, so make sure you do that.
We're all gonna make it, Buckos.
THE ONLY WAY WE WIN THE UPCOMING MEME WARS IS BY COLLECTIVELY LEVELING UP!
GET SORTED BRO!
>25
>make $18/h driving a forklift
>no gf
>fail at making small talk with people
Is it even possible to sort myself out at this age?
This is his wife. She's white.
From the beginning of this video: youtube.com
She says she decided to marry him because "I always knew he would be a fascinating person" and "if I don't marry him, I won't know what happens"
>he mentioned how you can never remove something from your life without replacing it,
That makes a lot of sense to be honest
>that is NOT a good situation to be in!
MEAN SON OF A BITCH
>"It took me a long time to figure ___ out!"
>Seriously no joke
>It's like
How many of you /fullycommitted/
Dude, I'm 25 also been slowly sorting myself over the last 3 or 4 years but I'm just recently taking it seriously.
It will take time. You have to take your goals 1 by 1, start small.
You've still got time bro, don't end up 70 and still fucking unsorted, you don't want to be one of those guys.
>sort yourself out
>"and that is SERIOUSLY not good!"
>"BELIEVE ME!" (maybe he's a Trump fan)
>"live involves a certain amount of suffering!"
>"free speech is the bedrock of our society! it is not a value; it's the PROCESS by which we decide our values!"
>"respect has to be earned!"
>"and what bloody good is that!"
This guy is very good
I cant stop watching
It's the dragon you have to slay. One of many to prevent your downfall into a chaotic hell.
has anyone here been able to get anyone else interested in Peterson? His videos are too long for my ADHD coworkers to sit through, and the videos that show him peaking don't give a great sense of what he's really all about. Anyone been able to convert someone? Or maybe you just have to be ready for the JBP pill
noporn/nofap
regular meditation
making art
making money
keeping girlfriend happy
trying to have enough serotonin to spearhead the dominance hierarchy
>Christ
>Is it even possible to sort myself out at this age?
What the fuck else are you gonna do tomorrow?
If you've read anything on the stuff he talks about (history, philosophy) you'll realize he's a dilettante who only has a superficial understanding of anything outside psychology.
>1 post by this ID
We got some serious bait here kek
Quick Rundown:
- Jordan Peterson is doing a QA/lecture at McMaster University tomorrow.
- 3 out of 4 professors scheduled to attend have bailed due to threats.
- Leftists planning to pull fire alarms and generally fuck shit up.
Can Sup Forums help based Peterson?
I think everything he says revolves around religion and also how important it is to the development of civilization and human beings in general.
It took me a long time to understand what he is saying completely but after about 3 month i feel like he is talking in my head. The guy is very repetitive so just keep listening and you will formulate a picture.
I think this is his central idea
>Religion has always told us about how to act in the world