What's the deal with 'The Protocols of the Elders of Zion"?

Is it true that it was a forged manuscript from Russia that eventually turned into a book and was reprinted heavily by our boy Henry Ford? Is it fake or real what's the true story?

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism#Hotchkiss.27_seven_deadly_sins_of_narcissism
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stop being such a pussy and read it yourself.

I did faggot I'm wondering if it's true or not....There's a bunch of bullshit on the internet about how it was "supposedly fake". How the Russian author contradicted himself in a prior peice....

If it's fake, how can it be so accurate regarding current events.

Goyim please,
we don't keep protocols for our meetings.

>we

really acclimates the axons.

It's real, (((they)))spread the rumor it isn't.

> Whether or not the controversial Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion are false or authentic does not affect the symptomatic value of the document in question, that is, the fact, that many of the things that have occurred in modern times, having taken place after their publication, effectively agree with the plans assumed in that document, perhaps more than a superficial observer might believe
- Julius Evola

juliusevola.net/excerpts/The_Secret_Causes_of_History_and_The_Protocols_of_the_Learned_Elders_of_Zion.html

>. Hugo Wast wrote: "The Protocols may well be a fake, but their predictions have been fulfilled in an amazing way." Henry Ford added: "The only comment that I can make about the Protocols is that they perfectly correspond to what is happening today. They were published sixteen years ago, and ever since then they have corresponded to the world situation and today they still dictate its rhythm." In a sense, we can speak of a prophetic premonition. In any event, the value of the document as a working hypothesis is undeniable: it presents the various aspects of global subversion (among them, some aspects that were destined to be outlined and accomplished only many years after the publication of the Protocols) in terms of a whole, in which they find their sufficient reason and logical combination.

>It is difficult to deny that such a "fiction" exposed at the beginning of this century has indeed reflected and anticipated much of what has taken place in the modern world, not to mention the predictions of what is in store for us. It is therefore no surprise that the Protocols received so much attention from those movements of the past that intended to react against and stem the currents of national, social, and moral dissolution in their own day and age. However, these movements often upheld dangerously unilateral positions, due to the lack of adequate discernment; this was a weakness that, again, has played into the enemy's hands.

> According to the Protocols, the leaders of the global plot are Jews who planned and undertook the destruction of the traditional and Christian European civilization in order to achieve the universal rule of Israel, or God's "chosen people." This is obviously an exaggeration. At this point we may even wonder whether a fanatical anti-Semitism, which always sees the Jew as a deus ex machina, is not unwittingly playing into the hands of the enemy. One of the means employed by the occult forces to protect themselves consists of directing their opponents' attention toward those who are only partially responsible for certain upheavals, thus concealing the rest of the story, namely a wider sequence of causes. It could be shown that even if the Protocols were a forgery perpetrated by provocateurs, nonetheless they reflect ideas very congenial to the Law and spirit of Israel. Second, it is true that many Jews have been and still are among the promoters of modern disorder in its more radical cultural expressions, whether political or social. This, however, should not prevent a deeper analysis, capable of exposing forces that may have employed modern Judaism merely as an instrument. After all, despite the fact that many Jews are among the apostles of the main ideologies regarded by the Protocols as instruments of global subversion (i.e., liberalism, socialism, scientism, and rationalism), it is also evident that these ideas would have never arisen and triumphed without historical antecedents, such as the Reformation, Humanism, the naturalism and individualism of the Renaissance, and the philosophy of Descartes. Such phenomena cannot be attributed to Judaism, but rather point to a wider web of influences.

So yes. Even Evola goes further than "It´s the Joos"

Cultural Marxism is said to be a "conspiracy theory" on its wikipedia page even though any dope can read or be told the concept and see it being utilized by the left.

They lie endlessly about things they don't want you to know about. Why should this book be any different?

it's real, the kikes just put out the cover story of "propaganda" to try and discredit their unvieled schemes

the protocols give good insight to how the elites think and work, read it and see their true colors

Fake, but it's true. Like palm reading and shit.

Completely fake. Look up Hitchens' articles on it.

Self fulfilling prophecy.

Why don't you ask Yuri Bezmenov?
Or even Alex Jones.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2842049/

It's fake insofar as no, there is no group of "elder of zions" who meet every wednesday for brunch to discuss how to ruin the world.

It's true insofar as every discussed policy of those "elders of zions" are indeed actually pushed by the jewish led globalist/communist movement.

I imagine when (((they're))) young, reading the Protocols in bed with a flashlight is like discovering that people think they're a werewolf. They giggle madly.

Then, whenever they become a man, after their penis party or whatever it's called, they're mom yells for them in the kitchen. And she's furry and eating a rabbit from the garden raw, except it's a gentile babbby.

Werewolf bar mitzvah
spooky scary
Boys becoming men
Men becoming wolves

It was my understanding it originated from France and then was used in trials against jews in Russia.

Well played. Thanks for permitting Tracy to survive the crash btw.

So some fucking Jew just exposed the whole deal and we should give it a rest? I don´t think so

juliusevola.net/excerpts/The_Secret_Causes_of_History_and_The_Protocols_of_the_Learned_Elders_of_Zion.html

This is the redpill you fucking retard

It's a "forgery" in the same way everything Jews ever say is "forgery".

It's a crafted piece of propaganda, all the more effective because it is accurate.

So many fucking people throughout history have spoken out against the Jews. How in the fuck do people not get this yet?

"Oy vey, it's all propaganda! Goy are just jealous of our high IQ. Very bad goyum indeed!"

Fucking a, day of the rope when? Deus vult when? Picking up where Hitler left off when?

At least put them all in Israel...... fuck sakes boys

>which always sees the Jew as a deus ex machina, is not unwittingly playing into the hands of the enemy

Indeed, this piece of the script is built-in to "anti-Semitism".

>Is it true that it was a forged manuscript from Russia

France actually a fiction that was plagiarized by the Russians.

>How the Russian author contradicted himself in a prior peice....

It was not written by a russian it was written by a frenchman as fiaction and the russians copied near entire pages of it and than claimed it was real

>> Whether or not the controversial Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion are false or authentic does not affect the symptomatic value of the document in question, that is, the fact, that many of the things that have occurred in modern times, having taken place after their publication, effectively agree with the plans assumed in that document, perhaps more than a superficial observer might believe
>- Julius Evola

That's pretty shit logic.

>Cultural Marxism

Was written about extensively by the Italian marxist Antonio Gramsci

It is not shit logic. Someone could use the fictional novels "1983" or "Brave New World" as an examples of totalitarian regimes what is currently happening to our world and the fact that they are false or authentic does not any way affect the symptomatic value of those books.

You are just too stupid to realize it because you are a fucking sheep

The content of the book is conveniently never discussed and rarely even mentioned outside of "Ermahgerhd it's craaaazy conspiracy by le ebil erntie-serhmats". No one seems to catch onto this diversionary tactic either, which is very sad. It's essentially taken straight from the talmud and the bullshit "torah of Plato", ie: it is very painfully obviously real.

It's real. How bluepilled are you that you must even ask that question?

The picture they paint of hostile zionists being present in European culture is certainly true.

However the specifics are certainly fake, Ie it claims to be the minutes from a meeting of a Jewish Cabal, Russia being the last hope of the world ect.

Its disinfo 101 mix truth in to sell lies

The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion explained by Dr. William Pierce
youtube.com/watch?v=eWuAH3P9s1k

>It is not shit logic. Someone could use the fictional novels "1983" or "Brave New World" as an examples of totalitarian regimes what is currently happening to our world and the fact that they are false or authentic does not any way affect the symptomatic value of those books.
>You are just too stupid to realize it because you are a fucking sheep

Replace the word jews with protestants and re-read it

Still works.

So it's symptomatic value if it has one is unrelated to jews

It was a secondhand transcript of a meeting at the national jewish congress.

very real, in that there is no credible evidence to say it's a forgery and no reason to make such a forgery

>people talk in half-quotes and use idioms
this does not mean the author copied other books

>
Elements of the Protocols were plagiarized from Joly's fictional Dialogue in Hell, a thinly-veiled attack on the political ambitions of Napoleon III, who, represented by the non-Jewish character Machiavelli,plots to rule the world. Joly, a monarchist and legitimist, was imprisoned in France for 15 months as a direct result of his book's publication. Ironically, scholars have noted that Dialogue in Hell was itself a plagiarism, at least in part, of a novel by Eugene Sue, Les Mystères du Peuple (1849–1856).

Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu
How are loans made? By the issue of bonds entailing on the Government the obligation to pay interest proportionate to the capital it has been paid. Thus, if a loan is at 5%, the State, after 20 years, has paid out a sum equal to the borrowed capital. When 40 years have expired it has paid double, after 60 years triple: yet it remains debtor for the entire capital sum.


— Montesquieu, Dialogues, p. 209

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion


A loan is an issue of Government paper which entails an obligation to pay interest amounting to a percentage of the total sum of the borrowed money. If a loan is at 5%, then in 20 years the Government would have unnecessarily paid out a sum equal to that of the loan in order to cover the percentage. In 40 years it will have paid twice; and in 60 thrice that amount, but the loan will still remain as an unpaid debt.


— Protocols, p. 77

Like the god Vishnu, my press will have a hundred arms, and these arms will give their hands to all the different shades of opinion throughout the country.


— Machiavelli, Dialogues, p. 141


These newspapers, like the Indian god Vishnu, will be possessed of hundreds of hands, each of which will be feeling the pulse of varying public opinion.


— Protocols, p. 43

Funny how these "borrowed" dialoques constitute maybe 2% of the books whole content.

Where the rest 98% were taken from? Can you answer that you fucking scum?

Now I understand the figure of the god Vishnu; you have a hundred arms like the Indian idol, and each of your fingers touches a spring.


— Montesquieu, Dialogues, p. 207


Our Government will resemble the Hindu god Vishnu. Each of our hundred hands will hold one spring of the social machinery of State.


— Protocols, p. 65

Any Israelis in this thread: I'm curious if you believe your people have been pimped through history by an occult/inexplicable force, as suggested by the Evola quote below.

> At this point we may even wonder whether a fanatical anti-Semitism, which always sees the Jew as a deus ex machina, is not unwittingly playing into the hands of the enemy. One of the means employed by the occult forces to protect themselves consists of directing their opponents' attention toward those who are only partially responsible for certain upheavals, thus concealing the rest of the story, namely a wider sequence of causes...

This is something I've considered; much easier on the soul and mind. But again, my question to any Israeli anons continues: if you believe an occult/malevolent force is giving your people a bad name, why not speak out, create a dialogue, help Gentiles understand? Surely, your people would be the most knowledgable on the subject, if you're truly being gangstalked through history. And who/what do you posit is/was/could do such a thing? In b4: anti-Semites, Nazis, Christians, the KKK, Mel Gibson

Is it the Synagogue of Satan? I've observed how careful Jews are to avoid criticizing any members of their race as rotten, evil, corrupt. Whites do not have this brake when it comes to members of our race who are destructive.

Again, marginalized few sentences employed for pictorial language to convey the extent of Jewish subversion and control over affairs of the State.

How do you explain the rest of the book, over 98 percent and 17,000 words that were not taken from any book?

Evola is here talking about the forces of degenerative subversion. This is not actual group of people, but a metaphysical/spiritual concept.

You would probably interested to read Evola´s mentor René Guénon´s book "The Reign of Quantity and The Signs of the Times"

Guénon equates this modern force of extreme materialism, capitalism and quantity to demonic or even satanic influence as opposed to more noble, spiritual tradition. Guénon talks of Anti-Tradition. This should not be understood as a conscious organization, but more of a unconscious force.

>fucking scum?

Watch your mouth finn. You call an Irishman scum again on St.Patricks Day and one of your people here takes your punishment for the insult and never sees finland again.

Watch yourself you stupid prick, no cunty antfa here, and you've insulted me.

>Bohoo my Christian saints insulted

The Jews made you to worship them in the first place

>>Bohoo my Christian saints insulted
>The Jews made you to worship them in the first place

You're weak and stupid. Mainly stupid.

Bill to be paid. From what I can see no loss either.

This. The same goes for many of the complaints through the ages. I suspect they are taught strictly at a young age to never entertain any discussion with outsiders about the litany charged against them. And this, justified or not, and I firmly do not believe it is justified, creates the projection of an unsettling conspiracy of silence.

I've never once, for instance, seen an Israeli poster criticize or question the Rothschilds' motives and dark reputation, on /pol as an user, or in the public arena. And you'd think they would be the first to do so. George Soros, I've seen Israelis shit on, but never expound on his Judaic worldview that so fuels his life's mission.

Are you threatening me?

You'll never win dumb goy.

Maybe if you genetically engineer a goy to be half as smart as us you'll eventually break even.

>Such phenomena cannot be attributed to Judaism, but rather point to a wider web of influences.
lots of factors. i wanna say its da rich, but they have conservative forces among them. plus, while we know the radical left has been used by globalists, they mostly have their own motivations. a desire for power through dominance of thought. social decay is produced by malignant growth of different social entities, produced through available incentives. its important to defeat the cancer, but more important to combat ways for negative growth to occur.

You certainly are shilling HARD for the Jews, Irving. You must be working for a raise.

Paul and the Apostles were Jews

It's a faked document. Absolutely zero evidence behind it.

>Inb4 J-JIDF!!!!11

>Are you threatening me?

Ah sure can't you take a little joke.

You need to be more polite though.

Right, I understand where Evola's foundation and springboard come from. (Thx for the rec - saved.) But I'm still incredibly eager to hear what an Israeli user has to say, for reasons I previously cited.

One would think that if such an evil were lurking upon a race--albeit, metaphysical, supernatural, or shaped via a mortal group--that said race would have a moral duty, and a preservational drive, to alert all raises of its presence and threat.

But such is the inclusiveness of Israel and Judaism, that such information or theories are closed-off, hermetically sealed. The crumbs were tossed firsthand seem apathetic, if not a ruse, or patronizing.

>You certainly are shilling HARD for the Jews, Irving. You must be working for a raise.

Replace the word Jews with anglos. Still works. Replace the word jews with communists (as was done in the 20s) still words. Replace the word jews with globalists - still works, replace the word jews with house of winsor, still works. Etc etc

Point is that Julius Evolas logic is fucking dumb.

So are you, nose.

Nah, but nice try at a deflection, Ophideus

My favourite, replace the word jews with protestants. Works perfectly.

Julius Evolas logic is fucking dumb.

What was the House of Medici?

Could it be that the Elders quoted from that book?

Some lizardmen cunts thought it would be a lark to pretend they could dethrone the Tsar.
And then the Tsar lost his shit in the Great War.
Something something Anastasia Holohoax.
Building bigger and better ovens right now.
Know your place cunt.

>Nah, but nice try at a deflection, Ophideus

Works fine actually

"1. ....Putting aside fine phrases we shall speak of the significance of each thought: by comparisons and deductions we shall throw light upon surrounding facts.

2. What I am about to set forth, then, is our system from the two points of view, that of ourselves and that of the non Christian [i.e., non-Protestant].

3. It must be noted that men with bad instincts are more in number than the good, and therefore the best results in governing them are attained by violence and terrorisation, and not by academic discussions. Every man aims at power, everyone would like to become a dictator if only he could, and rare indeed are the men who would not be willing to sacrifice the welfare of all for the sake of securing their own welfare.

4. What has restrained the beasts of prey who are called men? What has served for their guidance hitherto?

5. In the beginnings of the structure of society, they were subjected to brutal and blind force; afterwards - to Law, which is the same force, only disguised. I draw the conclusion that by the law of nature, right lies in force.

6. Political freedom is an idea but not a fact. This idea one must know how to apply whenever it appears necessary with this bait of an idea to attract the masses of the people to one's party for the purpose of crushing another who is in authority. This task is rendered easier if the opponent has himself been infected with the idea of freedom, SO-CALLED LIBERALISM, and, for the sake of an idea, is willing to yield some of his power. It is precisely here that the triumph of our theory appears; the slackened reins of government are immediately, by the law of life, caught up and gathered together by a new hand, because the blind might of the nation cannot for one single day exist without guidance, and the new authority merely fits into the place of the old already weakened by liberalism.
"

Don't even realize you're samefagging and everyone can see it. Hallmark of a shill.

Fuck you, you son of a jackal.

...

Only if you have zero use for the actual truth, Hymie.

That was a lot of words to say nothing of note, Schmuck.

Show me where I am wrong

1)Plagiarism
2)Can be applied to any group interchangeably and has been.

In Soviet Russia, it was illegal to own that book, if police find you have that book, you were killed on sight. People died to even leak that book.

>Only if you have zero use for the actual truth, Hymie.
Are you a Jew? You sound like one.

You can't really be thick enough to think the protocols is real?

>In Soviet Russia, it was illegal to own that book, if police find you have that book, you were killed on sight. People died to even leak that book.


Funny because under Andropov the KGB translated it into Arabic conflating the USA with the jews and distributed tends of thousands of copies across the middle east.

Ironic given that the burgers in the 1920s had a version which was printed with the words Bolshevik/communist instead of jews and capitalist instead of goy

"Before President Jimmy Carter approved his request for asylum, Pacepa ran Romania's intelligence services under the dictator Nicolae Ceaușescu, who was summarily executed along with his wife in 1989 following a popular uprising.

In 1972, Pacepa writes, his DIE agency 'received from the KGB an Arabic translation of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion along with "documentary" material, also in Arabic, "proving" that the United States was a Zionist country."


He was 'ordered,' he adds, 'to "discreetly" disseminate both "documents" within its targeted Islamic countries.'

'During my later years in Romania,' he recalls, 'every month the DIE disseminated thousands of copies throughout its Islamic sphere of influence. In the meetings I had with my counterparts in the Hungarian and Bulgarian services, with whom I enjoyed particularly close relations at that time, I learned that they were also sending such influence agents into their own Islamic spheres of influence.'
"

>we are the jews (tm)
>and here's a full list of the ways in which we fuck you over
>we wrote it down because we're so proud of our achievements
>and also so we won't forget how to jew you out of your shekels
>what? you think it looks like a compilation of standard antisemitic rhetoric?
>pure coincidence
>p.s.: this is top secret stuff
>p.p.s.: if you are not a chosen one, please unread this document

Anyone got a way i can read this for free.

>(((Hitchens)))
>literal atheistical kike actively trying to destroy Christianity denies that's what atheistical kikes are trying to do
Huh... Oh wow!

typical ussr copying burger tech

On October 27 and 28, 1919, the Philadelphia Public Ledger published excerpts of an English language translation as the "Red Bible," deleting all references to the purported Jewish authorship and re-casting the document as a Bolshevik manifesto The author of the articles was the paper's correspondent at the time, Carl W. Ackerman, who later became the head of the journalism department at Columbia University

>Is it fake or real what's the true story?

It's both "fake" and "real". The Protocols is best viewed as an allegorical text exploring the dangers of abandoning the christian ethos and the fundamentally subversive nature of intellectual and moral arrogance. The west has always been plagued by "learned elders" who believed they could reason their way to a better society if they were in charge. Such men see themselves as "philosopher kings", but in every case when they assume power, going all the way back to the French Revolution, they destroy society and cause mass death and suffering. This is because such men fundamentally despise and hate the common man, seeing him as a dangerous brute who must be controlled or destroyed. The protocols is a distillation of the sort of noxious statements and ideologies such "learned elders" tend to promulgate.

There are a zillion versions of it here is the original where the jews are the cabal, interchangeable with napoleon the 3rd, the Bolsheviks and most recently in the soviet Arabic edition burgers.

I'll write a version where it's the beady eyed anglo.

It's overdue.

jewwatch.com/jew-references-protocols-full-text-folder.html

>>Is it fake or real what's the true story?It's both "fake" and "real". The Protocols is best viewed as an allegorical text exploring the dangers of abandoning the christian ethos and the fundamentally subversive nature of intellectual and moral arrogance. The west has always been plagued by "learned elders" who believed they could reason their way to a better society if they were in charge. Such men see themselves as "philosopher kings", but in every case when they assume power, going all the way back to the French Revolution, they destroy society and cause mass death and suffering. This is because such men fundamentally despise and hate the common man, seeing him as a dangerous brute who must be controlled or destroyed. The protocols is a distillation of the sort of noxious statements and ideologies such "learned elders" tend to promulgate.


Fair comment. I always think of freemasons when I read it but that's it's sticking power. It can be applied to a ton of different groups

>>Is it fake or real what's the true story?It's both "fake" and "real". The Protocols is best viewed as an allegorical text exploring the dangers of abandoning the christian ethos and the fundamentally subversive nature of intellectual and moral arrogance. The west has always been plagued by "learned elders" who believed they could reason their way to a better society if they were in charge. Such men see themselves as "philosopher kings", but in every case when they assume power, going all the way back to the French Revolution, they destroy society and cause mass death and suffering. This is because such men fundamentally despise and hate the common man, seeing him as a dangerous brute who must be controlled or destroyed. The protocols is a distillation of the sort of noxious statements and ideologies such "learned elders" tend to promulgate.


A version where it is homosexuals Vs heterosexuals would be good too. The original text was against napoleon the 3rd.

>Replace the word Jews with anglos. Still works. Replace the word jews with communists (as was done in the 20s) still words. Replace the word jews with globalists - still works, still works. Etc etc
All of these groups are under Jewish influence. The Jews financed the British Empire, were behind communism, and globalism. It really is the kikes.

>Jews up to their old tricks
What an unpleasant surprise.

>>Replace the word Jews with anglos. Still works. Replace the word jews with communists (as was done in the 20s) still words. Replace the word jews with globalists - still works, still works. Etc etcAll of these groups are under Jewish influence. The Jews financed the British Empire, were behind communism, and globalism. It really is the kikes.

Who were the House of Medici?

Pretty much the conclusion I came to aswell. Doesn't even matter who wrote them. If anything it shows you how dangerous narcissism really is and maybe even why it should be placed higher on the scale of mental disorders.

The whole thing is a carefully thought out road map to establish absolute physical,mental and spiritual subjugation of the human races. The ideas in there are depicted in such detail that it's rather hard convince yourself of their ineffectiveness. It's not a matter of IF but WHO picks up these ideas and advances their application.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism#Hotchkiss.27_seven_deadly_sins_of_narcissism

If you read it, it might haunt you forever. Lot's of fake versions out there.

Have the Medicis had any influence since the French Terror? Or have all their banking enterprises been taken over by Jews? Probably partly thanks to Napoleon's domination of Italy come to think of it.

>Montesquieu, Dialogues

Try the original

is book has traits that can be applied to all governments, but it has one precise goal: to personify one political system in particular that has not varied in its methods for a single day since the unfortunate and, alas, already too faraway date of its inauguration.

This is not a lampoon or a pamphlet; the senses of modern people are already too policed to accept violent truths about contemporary politics. The supernatural duration of certain successes [in this field] is furthermore intended to corrupt honesty itself; but public consciousness still lives, and the heavens will one day day interfere in the games being played against it.

One better judges certain facts and certain principles when one sees them outside of the framework in which they habitually move before our eyes; the change of optical perspective sometimes terrifies the eyes!

Here, everything is presented under the form of fiction; it would be superfluous to provide the key in anticipation. If this book has an import, if it contains a lesson, it will be necessary for the reader to understand it and not have it given to him. Furthermore, such reading will not fail to have quite lively distractions; it is necessary to proceed with it slowly, as is suitable with writings that are not frivolous things.

One will not ask where is the hand that traced out these pages: a work such as this is, in a certain way, impersonal. It responds to an appeal to consciousness; everyone has conceived it; it is executed; the author effaces himself, because he is only the editor of a thought that is in the general sense; he is only a more or less obscure accomplice of the coalition for good.
[Maurice Joly]
Geneva, 15 October 1864

notbored.org/dialogue-in-hell.html

kek

>In the Protocols the concepts of Judaism and Masonry are interwoven; therefore, in the literature that this text spawned, mention is often made in careless terms of a Jewish-Masonic plot. Here caution must be exercised. While recognizing the Jewish predominance in many sectors of modern Masonry, as well as the Jewish origin of several elements in the Masonic symbolism and rituals, the anti-Semitic thesis, according to which Masonry has been the creation and tool of Israel, must be rejected. Modern Masonry (with this designation I allude essentially to the Freemasonry that developed since the creation of London's Grand Lodge in 1717) has undoubtedly been one of the societies that promoted the modern political subversions, and especially their ideological background. However, here too the danger is to be distracted by explaining everything with the action of ordinary Masonry.

It IS a conspiracy theory, and you would know that, if your media diet was not exclusively right wing.
Leftists are not the only ones capable of lying, bro

Spudnigger spergout. Fuck off pedo papist

If it's a forgery then it is a copy of something that exists.

>Have the Medicis had any influence since the French Terror? Or have all their banking enterprises been taken over by Jews? Probably partly thanks to Napoleon's domination of Italy come to think of it.


The Duke of Cambridge and his brother Prince Harry of Wales are descendants of Marie, through their lines from natural children of Charles II and James II and VII, whose grandmother she was. Another person through whom Medici descent became general was Elizabeth Farnese, second wife of Philip V of Spain. Her great-grandmother Margherita de' Medici was a daughter of Grand Duke Cosimo II, and in fact Elizabeth carried what would be the representation of the Grand Ducal line following the extinction which appeared and was inevitable.

>>In the Protocols the concepts of Judaism and Masonry are interwoven; therefore, in the literature that this text spawned, mention is often made in careless terms of a Jewish-Masonic plot. Here caution must be exercised. While recognizing the Jewish predominance in many sectors of modern Masonry, as well as the Jewish origin of several elements in the Masonic symbolism and rituals, the anti-Semitic thesis, according to which Masonry has been the creation and tool of Israel, must be rejected. Modern Masonry (with this designation I allude essentially to the Freemasonry that developed since the creation of London's Grand Lodge in 1717) has undoubtedly been one of the societies that promoted the modern political subversions, and especially their ideological background. However, here too the danger is to be distracted by explaining everything with the action of ordinary Masonry.


The original work here

notbored.org/dialogue-in-hell.html

has nothing to do with jews and the author did prision time, 18 months because it was seen as an attack on napoleon the 3rd

He did ironically eventually join the freemasons.

>If it's a forgery then it is a copy of something that exists.


Maurice Joly

notbored.org/dialogue-in-hell.html

Anyone who actually believes it's real really needs to sort their shit out. Some of it is literally copy pasta. However, it's a good satire on the jews and worth a read for that reason.

Interesting article on the Medicis and the Jews. They were both exiled from Tuscany at the same time and both rose to power at the same time. Really makes you think.

>The fate of Tuscan Jewry in the early modern period was inextricably linked to the favor and the fortune of the House of Medici.

>In the 1490s, under the Catholic theocracy of Fra Girolamo Savonarola, both the Medici and the Jews were expelled from Florentine territory. When the Medici returned to power in 1512, the Jewish ban fell into abeyance, until the next expulsion of the Medici in 1527.

>Coming from a merchant family himself, Cosimo I recognized the vast potential of Jewish capital and Jewish entrepreneurship, dispersed by the Iberian expulsion of the 1490s. By the mid-1540s, less than ten years after he gained the throne, Cosimo I began recruiting affluent Spanish and Portuguese Jews for resettlement in his capital city of Florence and his chief port city of Pisa. At the same time, many displaced Italian Jews who were neither bankers nor wealthy merchants came to Tuscany as well, particularly after the final expulsion of the Neapolitan community in 1540 and the creation of ghettos in the Papal cities of Rome and Ancona in 1555.

>In the first decades of Cosimo's rule, Jews thrived particularly in Pisa, where there developed an influential Jewish banking elite.

jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-jews-and-the-medici

What a coincidence!

Rats and roaches.

Machiavelli: Not as much as you might think, because it is necessary that the public masses do not suspect this tactic; the arrangement would fail and public opinion would detach itself from the newspapers that openly defend my politics.

I would divide into three or four categories the papers devoted to my power. In the first rank, I would place a certain number of newspapers whose tone would be frankly official and which -- at every turn -- would defend my actions to the limit. These would not be, let me tell you, the ones that would have the most influence on public opinion. In the second rank, I would place another phalanx of newspapers whose character would no longer be official and whose mission would be to rally to my power the masses of lukewarm or indifferent people who accept without scruple what exists, but do not go beyond their political religion.

It is in the following categories of newspapers that the most powerful levers of my power would be found. Here the official or unofficial tone would be completely lost -- in appearance, of course -- because the newspapers of which I speak would all be attached by the same chain to my government: a visible chain for some; an invisible one to others. I would not undertake to tell you what would be their number, because I would assign a dedicated organ to each opinion, in each party; I would have an aristocratic organ in the aristocratic party, a republican organ in the republican party, a revolutionary organ in the revolutionary party, an anarchist organ -- if need be -- in the anarchist party. Like the God Vishnu, my press would have a hundred arms and these arms would place their hands upon all the nuances of opinion throughout the entire country. One would be of my party without knowing it. Those who believe they speak their language would [actually] be speaking mine; those who believe they were acting in their party would be acting in mine; those who believe they were marching under their flag would be marching under mine.