Why does belgium produce so many jihadists?

why does belgium produce so many jihadists?

They accept too much migrants, just like france.

Why is there even a thread for it ?

Because their the number 1 exporter of jihadists despite a population of 11.2 million

Philippe Moureaux, Molenbeek's mayor (bourgmestre) was part of the problem.
Trust me, I live here.

Dunno about other towns tho.

Theyre use of Snapchat and reddit.


>Snapchat and Reddit radicalized adam Lanza

Isn't that what Muslim countries do...?

There no jihadists here wtf are you talking about dirty kuffar inshallah your throat will be slit

Stop spreading your filthy lies kafir

may allah smite you and the rest of you filthy dogs

عندما يكون المحطة التالية عبد؟

قريبا، قريبا جدا أخي

If you want a serious answer

They do it the French way. In Paris there's 12 people living in a single apartment in abhorrent conditions, and the last time anyone gave a shit about them is in the 1950s.

In Molenbeek it's not much different. There's an immense gap between normal people and immigrants. They live in their own world, the government doesn't care, and they don't care about the government.

If you're a male between 15 and 30, you will most definitely experience severe identity problems because you're not Belgian, but you're not Moroccan/Algerian/Turkish/Whatever either. If you turn on the news, you see the huge division in society and how everybody seems to be against you. What do you think happens to someone like that, at that moment?

They grew up that way. Their parents grew up that way. Their grandparents grew up that way. Yet when you take one step outside your neighborhood, you see normal Belgians living perfectly normal lives.

If you're in that situation, you're extremely vulnerable for anyone exposing you to extremist ideas, because you already have a hate towards society brewing inside you.

At the same time there's other people who have already radicalized and have already committed attacks. Not only are they seen as someone who (be it in the wrong way) stands up for them and their way of life, but the government reaction is to declare a state of emergency and search your house without any good reason, too. Government makes a couple of arrests and doesn't do anything constructive. Next attack happens, rinse and repeat.

I'm not saying we don't have extremists in the Netherlands, of course we do, but because we have proper housing laws and better outlooks for immigrant youth, the chances of them radicalizing and hating society are much smaller. You're very unlikely to go down a radical path if you have a job and a girlfriend.

tl;dr the government refuses to recognize problems

>Socialists that rule Brussels decide that it is not in their interest to let immigrants adapt to Belgian society
>Immigrants go to neighborhoods where their race is most prevalent
>Immigrants are being brainwashed by wahabi imams and unregulated mosques
>Jihadis are born

There is one golden rule in Europe
>the closer to Brussels, the more degenerate

Belgium was the only country in the EU to offer full citizenship after only three years of residence. So for years they were pouring into Europe and heading straight for Brussels. And being home of the EU, this was not only ignored, but actively encouraged.

Now, of course, they are all well entrenched, and more keep coming every single day because it is a known place with a large Muslim population, and Muslims would much rather associate with their own kind and their own set of values, rather than try to integrate with the host culture.

They increased citizenship to five years a few years ago, putting it in line with other countries in the EU, but the damage is already done.

Spend a few years with your Muslim brothers in Belgium, get citizenship, bam, all of the EU is open.

this Oranje is right, it's the same in Germany.

nobody gives 2 fucks about the migrants back in the day.

most people (especially politicians) try so hard to keep the "status quo" alive, but slowly but surely it turns against them.

Muslim communities gather themselves in mosques, radicalize themselves.
But nobody wants to acknowledge that, since it would break the illusion of their worldview that they tried to create over the last 50 years

It's a non-country with several Muslim cities.

usual game of "let's use some made up bullshit to blame the victims"

there's terrorist attacks all around the islamic world. Where there are a huge number / high concentration of muslims, you get terrorist attacks. Simple as that.

contrary to any bullshit you can come up, this explanation works for EVERY DOZENS OF COUNTRIES with jihadist terrorist attacks, from Morocco to Philippines.

There are 0 cities with a muslim majority population in Belgium, only certain neighborhoods in major cities (which you have in every country).

>be immigrant
>feel society is against you
>prefer blowing yourself up over peacefuly going back to your own country
>leftists agree with the terrorist attack on Georgian throatsinging forums

>tfw all those white blonde haired blue eyed settlers in Mexico don't suffer from identity problems and blow shit up despite self-segregating and going through the same issues.

Sounds like a shitskin problem to me.

thats a shitty google translate

Britcucks were probably saying that 10 years ago, through their cruelly misshapen teeth. These populations grow fucking fast, wafflebro, especially when nobody is going to the trouble of removing kebab.

Saw this comment word for word in another thread, enjoy that .0002 ClintonCash(tm)

your fucking capital is quarter muzzo

I respect your point of view, but let me put it this way.

Saudi Arabia, no terrorist attacks. UAE, no terrorist attacks. Qatar, no terrorist attacks. Iran, no terrorist attacks.

Before 2003? Iraq, no terrorist attacks. Libya, no terrorist attacks. Syria? No terrorist attacks.

It's always a reaction to something. People don't just radicalize because they feel like it.

Let me give you an example.
My country had a problem with Moluccan terrorists in the 1970s. Moluccans are a minority from an island group in what is now Indonesia. They fought alongside the Dutch during the Indonesian war of independence.

After the Dutch lost the war, the soldiers who helped us were in danger, so we decided to take them with us to the Netherlands, and we promised them to give them their own country back. For temporary housing, we put them in internment camps (Fun fact, the same camps used by the nazis 10 years earlier to house the jews), then completely forgot about them.

A generation later, in the 1970s, the situation was still the same, and some Moluccan youth radicalized and committed terrorist attacks on trains, schools, and government institutions.

Next to the usual disgust and other logical reactions to terrorism, they did get a dialog going between the Netherlands and the Moluccans. They were recognized by the government, and since the early 80s they have assimilated and are now normal and valued members of society.

Point that i'm trying to bring across is, people don't radicalize out of nothing. There's always a cause and an effect. As long as the government is unwilling to realize this, the problem will not be solved.

It's not logical. Radicalization is a mental disorder, and you shouldn't try to find rationality in it, because there isn't any.

It's psychological, and once it happened, it's very difficult to turn it back.

The best thing you can do to prevent it, is to make sure it doesn't get a fertile ground for the radical seeds to grow in.

Or maybe not let in a million shitskins in the first place

Why don't you go back to the 1960s and tell the government this?

anywhere where the muslim population is above 10% begins to have problems

I've already accepted that it's all over for Europe, brother. Canada is on it's way out too. Problems this big and this ingrained can't and won't be fixed.

its not a mental disorder, retard
its because they fully believe what the quran says

You can complain about the problems but with a mentality like that you contribute to them.

the only way to solve the radicalization is to bring back death penalty and execute them before they can commit any terror attacks. Friends and families that didnt report any signs of Radicalization get the bullet too.

There's many more reasons why people radicalize. Religion is one of them, but what about nationalism? Or ecological ideas and animal rights? What about political affiliation like communism or anarchism?

It's all the same shit. There's millions of people who believe the quran, there's millions of people who believe the bible. But most of them don't take the books literally, and even if they did, they know they should not commit violence because of it.

There's a lot of people who have nationalist ideas, but most people are normal functioning human beings who know they should not commit violence. And then there's Anders Breivik who snapped. How is that not a mental disorder?

empire guilt => letting them all in => kebab kaboom

The fate of this country was decided in 1967, the indoctrination here begins at birth.

>diversity is our strength
>Canada has no core identity
>muh immigrant nation

nah. eventually enough people will get raped/murdered and be like "fuck being politically correct"
and take action against islam.

we will probably see how far this goes with france, as a guage. perhaps britain too.
though the french are pussies, so it will get really bad over there before the public opinion changes.

I think the Iraq war proved you cannot fight radical ideas with violence. For every head you chop off, two more grow back.

Isn't it awesome how they said we were bad people for not wanting "refugees", yet they are the ones who created a police state b/c of the "refugees". Traitorous trash needs to be taken out to the curb.

You can't compare war on foreign soil and underground armed insurgency with a stricter/harsher treatment of citizens of your own country.

>Saudi Arabia, no terrorist attacks. UAE, no terrorist attacks. Qatar, no terrorist attacks. Iran, no terrorist attacks.

They are constantly arresting cunts in these countries.

Though they also live under islamic law....so terrorists got what they wanted fucking ages ago.

Look at that ally motherfucker. His capbadge is halfway around his head

Israel demolishes the houses of the families of terrorists. Does that help? Not at all.

Terrorists see themselves as the good party, and if they are willing to sacrifice their lives for it, how are you going to threaten them with harsher punishment?

its called being extremely convinced in your beliefs.
its not a mental disorder.

there's million of christians who take the bible literally and dont kill anyone because its a religion of peace. islam is not.

Anders is an isolated incident which probably was a mental disorder. that doesn't expalin all terrorists.
over 10 million people forming an islamic state dont have a mental disorder; they're just fucking animals who believe the quran and follow it completely and literally.

and i follow the bible literally and i dont kill anyone, though i do probably piss alot of people off since i dont agree with them, and they don't agree with me but i dont mind and neither should they.
islam is just cancer. not all religions are equal. not all cultures are equal. some are cancer and death cults.

>Able fighting men allowed to migrate
>not staying to protect own country

When did this become so common?

Israel is surrounded by sandniggers. Again you cannot compare the two. Soft treatment of jihadism and salafism doesn't bring us anywhere and you're incredibly naive if you think it's the better option. We need to eradicate it from our soils no matter what the cost or loss of human lives

>It's not logical. Radicalization is a mental disorder, and you shouldn't try to find rationality in it, because there isn't any.

Usual "if you don't agree with me you're mental" bullshit.

It really is easier for you to pretend they're not following their religion and are just insane, than doing a literal interpretation of their faith.

This deluded, status seeking bullshit has cost many lives.

We are number 1 PER CAPITA you idiot roo fucker

>Israel demolishes the houses of the families of terrorists. Does that help? Not at all.

Actually, it does.

It discourages suicide bombers because while they don't care if they die, they do care if their family is made homeless.

Its a target for jihadists and EU has free movement.

Molenbeek, rest isnt that bad tbqh
kek'd

This. Israel is actually extremely capable of stopping terror attacks in their own cities. We can learn a thing or two from them concerning this.

>Yet when you take one step outside your neighborhood, you see normal Belgians living perfectly normal lives.

I always laugh when I see how close shitholes like Molenbeek, Schaerbeek and Anderlecht are from the EU institutions.

Brussels has Always been a bohemian free state thats why Marx when he needed to escape lived there. The town has its own government inside the country and is led by socialists which leads to a 25% youth unemployement. The city won't be able to surive for a month without money from the Flemish government.

It is a great place for hipsters because everything goes there its a bohemian love fest it has 6 different zones of police for a city of 1 million. NYC has one zone for 11 milllion people. It also has 19 mayors for 1 city due to the socalists wanting to keep their titles.

The whole problem would be solved if the socialists would be gone for a year and thats real talk whatsup.

Brussels is named the Belgian disease for a reason.

Oh yeah.

I saw an AK and 3 mags goes for 300 euros in Brussels.

What the fuck, that's incredibly cheap.
You guys are fooked.

UAE, QATAR, IRAN are the source of islamic jihadist terrorism. And yes, there has been terrorist groups and attacks in saudi arabia too.

the case of Iran is special, because they are shia. They created the martyrdom ideology and modern suicide terrorist attacks during the iran - iraq war than used it against US embassies,. But the shia religion is mostly limited to iran, syria and iraq. And in case you haven't noticed, Islam is in the middle of a war of religion between shia and sunni.

modern sunni islamic jihadism is the son of wahabism from saoudi arabia and Muslim brotherhood from egypt. Wahabism brought the integrist extreme religious part, and the muslim brotherhood the political part. It hapenned when the muslim brothehood fled from Nasser's egypt to saoudi arabia and qatar. SInce than, saoudi arabia has spent hundred of billions of dollars spreading it int he whole muslim world : building mosques, madrassas to indoctrinate imams in THEIR cult of death version of islam, satellite TV shows and so on.

terrorism is a problem of the islamic world, not a european one. You should stop blaming the victims and realize that any explanation you can come up with to try to explain terrorist attacks in europe based on something the european did wrong cannot explains the terrorism in algeria, lybia, egypt, mali, nigeria, somalia, chechnia, turkey, abkhazi, yemen, iraq, syria, pakistan, bangladesh, india, Philippins, indonesia etc

It's a fucking muslim problem. Within islam. Between muslims. We are merely collateral damage.