At what age does it become degenerate to live with your parents?

I'm 21 and am about to get my bachelors in construction management. I have a connection with a company near my parents to start working next year. I want to move in with them for a few years while working to save up for a mortgage before moving out to avoid giving money to the land Jew.
What does Sup Forums think is acceptable

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Assuming you're actually working, saving up for a mortgage, and being proactive and productive in the house I'd say it's not degenerate. Though the possibility of you going NEET is high. It's actually rather important to live on your own before you get a house. Living at uni does not equate to actually living on your own, they are completely different experiences and a house might be a bit much, also good luck financing without decent credit. You're young though, and there are a lot of opportunities. I wouldn't settle on a house yet, and I'd go renting for a few years so you have flexibility in living and working places. No reason to settle down so quickly.

I was going to settle into a house, but decided to hold off a year. 2 months later was offered an incredible position some states over and made the move, best decision of my life. Being young provides you with a lot of opportunity, and it's at this time in your life that you seize as many as you can as this period in your life will heavily determine your success as a person. Not saying you couldn't just settle in right off the bat, but don't close all your doors before you see what's beyond them.

>I'm 21
Your parents should have thrown you out a decade ago, you pussy

Take advantage of the ability to save money.
It's the main reason I've decided against moving out.
If you have a good relationship with your parents I don't see a problem in not wasting your money. Just don't be a bum.

Hey fuck you pal for assuming it's degenerate to live with family

>rent is a scam
>baby boomers are syphoning liquidity

It's not degenerate if you do it right. HOWEVER if you think you're a loser for spending time with your family you have a serious problem with your priorities

believing in any old structures of society is degenerate, because old structures must be dissolved and changed. Clinging to an old structure that is already degenerating is equally degenerate.

McNulty really went downhill.

I miss vince

my life was so simple during the days when I found him funny

>single
>living with your parents
>neet

"just don't be a bum"

whew

52

In what world is staying close to your family degenerate? Do you think that for most of human history, children left their parents' home at 18? This is a trend that gained preeminence in the past century, and it's already failing. Don't try to adapt to the confused moralizing of Fox News-types and blowhard baby boomers. Their whole worldview is irredeemably sick and twisted. Don't waste your time with their opinions.

Take this poster for instance. He hasn't actually given thought to why he believes parents throwing their children out on the streets is healthy behavior, and yet, he seems to believe it wholeheartedly. Why would you, OP, waste time worrying about the opinions that were foisted on him by questionable social influences, with no justification nor clear reasoning involved? What I'm saying is, the people feeding you this bullshit haven't given thought to their opinions, so you shouldn't waste your time thinking about it either

Your parents might love you faggot but they want their privacy back at some point. Take responsibility and buy your own chicken tendies and cook them yourself.

Don't want my 25 year old dirty shitposter jerking off in the basement the rest of my life when I am just trying to fuck your mom in the living room.

True love is finding an 8/10 qt who moves in with you at your parents' house, marries you months later, and all you do is fuck, watch 'Roseanne' in pajamas, and eat tacos, while plotting out your dreams together. Just stay away from drugs, keep it ABC not HBO.

Nice argument and nice English skills. It was well-reasoned and cogently expressed. You've changed my mind, and you've done it with alarming erudition. Bravo.

P.S.

Blow me, you worthless mongoloid

32 here still living with mine;
I can understand moving out if your parents are shit or something, or if you have a wife/child, other than that whats the point? I live in a far nicer/bigger house in the country than i ever could, i don't worry about the bills, cooking, cleaning.. etc.

It's not even like i have a shit job; i'm a software developer and make ~£39k'ish; I just don't see thhe point?!?! I'll just be downgrading my life-style??
2 more years and i'll be able to buy a £300k+ property outright; but i'll still be living here and rent that fucker out; then 8 years later.. I'll do the same again.. rinse and repeat till i can retire on rent money.

So yeah, if 21 is degenerate then im the king of degenerates.

More people moving out early = more appartments and houses to rent

Probably 25, desu. As long as you're paying rent and shopping for yourself/making your own food, I don't see a major problem. Chicks won't dig it, though.

nice fiction, faggot

>I want to be a burden on my parents the rest of their lives
>No way you can convince me to do something that would benefit them. I would rather save money and fuck them over.

This is why no one likes you user... that plus they don't want to hang out with a 20 something year old at their mummies house.

God damn that is a sad boring life. Keep it abc not hbo hurts.

Pathetic.

>32
>single
>doesn't help with bills, cooking, cleaning
>this isn't degenerate

hahahaha

if yer parents are cool stay home, save $ and become truly independent with as little stress as possible

>saving for a mortgage

Protip: you will never beat the eternal debt Jew by getting into a mortgage debt.
Invest in a small biz that will help you earn enough to pay up asap instead.

Do it! Just don't let some chick side track you from your goals for at least the next five years.

Moving out asap is just a social stigma brought on by college jews to try and guilt you into jumping into the lake before reaching land. As long as you arent being a leech then what is the problem? Times have changed and houses aren't cheap anymore. 30 years ago my parents bought their house for 30 grand and now it's worth 200 grand when they haven't done much to upgrade it.

>all these financial plebs being pressured by social bullshit
Pro-tip. Unless your parents kick you out, stay with them.
Build your credit score while working. You make shit tonnes of money while working, while building a credit score. Take out a lone and purchase some property. Rent the property out and pay off your loan much, much before the due date to increase your credit score to a larger amount. Rinse and repeat several dozen times.

I'm 28 and still live with my parents. I have four different properties. Two flats, one Holiday Cabin and a large house. I rent all of them to different people and families. I'm gonna quit my job next year and buy another house next year, then instead of straight out renting it, I'm gonna fix it up and sell straight up for a nice profit. This way I'll have even more money, and a higher credit score, then use that to buy bigger places in nicer areas.

I'll probably retire by 32-35. No way am I getting married though. That's a good way to lose all my hard earned money when she decides to divorce me and take half of my properties.

>I don't have an argument, so I'm going to assume you live at your parent's house, and build up a strawman to knock down

Stop posting. You're too stupid. I recommend less TV sports and bud light. It's turning you into a brainlet.

you have to be retarded to be saving up to buy a house or some shit like its your sole life objective.

there are few reasons not to just rent a house from some sucker that spent their life obtaining it, and do what you want from there. and until you really want to move out, living with parents is foolproof for better finances.

Fiction, faggot, is attempting to couple with a liberal millennial who mimics the "rootless cosmopolitan" values of most city-dwellers, because she thought it was what adults are supposed to do.

Half the problem with women in this country is they move out of home too soon. With their minds knocked up with ((media/Hollywood))) whore liberation. If you can find a girl who will move into your parents' house with you, who has goals and a college degree, she's probably a keeper. This also brings white families closer together--parents age slower when cohabiting with younger people.

Good luck with your tattooed kike assembly line of pounded office workers, though.

Leave home. Explore. Become an Adult. Do your thing. It;s all good.

But Western society is fucked because you lose the wisdom of your elders by leaving them in a home and not caring for them.

>The elderly American dementia patient who was flown to Britain and dumped in a car park by his family had previously accused his son of a series of attacks and abuses, DailyMail.com can reveal.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4174948/Son-dementia-suffering-father-Roger-Curry-threatened-him.html


>Fucking look after your parents and Grandparents you selfish reprobates.

Your parents sacrificed a great deal to create a fucking degenerate shitposting loser. The best you could do is take care of yourself instead of clinging to them and sucking money out of them the rest of their life.

>MOM THE DISHES ARE DIRTY WTF BITCH

You will die alone if you are looking for a girl that wants to move into your parents house with you

Sup Forums is the worst board

18, unless you're particularly poor.
Go to university and get a job&apartment

I don't even live with my parents, retard. Are you too stupid to differentiate an argument from the person making the argument? Jesus Christ.

>tfw living on the same place in family homestead since when in the 6th century my people (carinthians) migrated from the alps
>tfw lived in tribes until the 1900s
>tfw literally stopped the turkish invasion (msot extended turk boreder was very close to my house)
>tfw go to one of the best colleges in the region
>tfw have to move out now or some random westerner spoiled city children will judge me

>live with parents
>have a room, electricity and water
>work and get money
>begin paying bills, help in repairing and maintaining house
>dad retire and with more money because of your help
>take care of them while seeing them leave this world
>inherit house
>live your last years debt free, with your own house and a clear mind that your pops loved you till ther end

yep, living with your parents is degenerate

>I want to tell people to do a thing that I myself didn't do
>A thing that is undeniably degenerate
>Utterly selfish

faggot

As soon as you graduate, get the fuck out. Learn how to save on a budget that includes rent/mortgage.

I don't know
I'm from a single mother household and since I went to college, I dread to return home every time. I just like my independency too much

I'd say 26.

Be smart about it. People who hurry along and want to be 'independent' end up living in shitty flats until their 40s.

I'm only 20 myself and I'm still in college, but I know a girl that lived with her parents until she was 26. During that time she worked and saved up enough to buy a house and make the first payment.

Use your time wisely.

Moving to Cali yeah boy

Why is it degenerate? I want you to stop frothing at the mouth for a moment and get your noggin joggin. Think. Why is it degenerate to live in the same house as your parents? Try really hard to give me an argument.

This:

>you're a faggot haha keep sucking momma's titty haha I fuck mad bitches nerd

Is not an argument. Go on

>no shamwow itt
>mfw

my parents are socialists so i'm just going to mooch them until they realize the error of their ways

its fine if you come from a rich family
but not fine if you are poor
funny world we live in.

Very smart move! Good for you also to have a job set up.

I wish I did that. I would have saved thousands. My rent alone currently is $1,100. That's over $13,000 a year

If your parents are willing to let you stay to get an economic footing, do it.

This guy's got it

Germany kicks their kids out at the age of 11?
> think before you post

I think you should move out the moment your parents are no longer legally bound to take care of you: when you turn 18.

Of course, it's really hard to do so with today's rent prices, and moving out to live on the streets is not really an option. A good solution to that is to accept that after you turn 18, every cent your parents spend on you is debt you have to pay back.

That's what I did. Moved out at 22 when I got a decent salary. Now I keep one third of what money I have left at the end of each month, which right now is about €100. The rest goes to my parents. Still have about €20k left to pay.

When did you start? Does insurance cover ALL the damages your tenants cause? What's the most expensive damage that insurance has NOT covered?

Around 35

Haha holy shit your parents accepted this idea? They must not love you very much

I'll tell you exactly what age.
>When you want your sexual partner in your parents home but think it's OK to to give no fucks about your stepdad and show your sexual partner how little you respect him thus making sure he has no respect for him either.

When that happens, you need your own fucking place before I kill you and him and punch your mum in the face.

Very much related -
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Yeah I know, I'm a cuck. But I'm not and I think some people forgot that.

25, still live with my mother at the 'family home'. Me and my brother currently pay way more into the property than she does though, so it's only really her house in name only. I fully expect her to hand over the property down to us eventually, like how her parents handed it down to her. Living with your parents is not degenerate, it's a lost tradition.

I'm not sure if you are retarded or just bad a trolling

>he didn't have a wife, 3 kids, 50k a year and a massive villa at 15
Haha look at this cuck

>be me, useless NEET shut in who barely even leaves his room
>live with both mom and dad, but only talk to mom because cold shoulder notalk for the last 3 months from dad (this happens all the time)
>nothing saved up
>in fact i am 30k in debt because of college meme
>no degree on top of that, failed out
>no friends whatsoever
>see my mom and dad withering away every day and getting tired of paying for me
>i'm getting old myself and starting to lose hair
>wonder sometimes if they ever had the notion i was going to turn out this way and that they basically wasted their entire lives investing in something that will never pay them back
>sometimes beg them to throw me out but bless their hearts they just can't do it, even my dad who hates me

The same age as being unmarried: 30.

Why should anyone give a shit about a step parent? You have no authority. You are of no value, except as an emotional crutch for the parent. That's the only reason you're tolerated.

Unless you are a sociopath with no capacity of considering your parents wellbeing/desires it is pretty obvious why it is degenerate to leech from your parents well into adulthood

You are bound to be less functional/capable of living independently when the time does come if you rely on them well into adulthood.

It completely sabotages any chance at a relationship.


>but its """free""" money

70

>tfw you were raised and live with your Grandmother, but you didn't get out soon enough, so now she's literally too poor to be able to live alone, and you're trapped

No age if you're a man.
You should stay with your parents and help them out in their old age, you will eventually get married and take over the house.
If you're a woman, you should move out only after getting married and move in with your husband and his parents.

If you absolutely must move out on your own, only do it when you can buy a house. Don't fall for the rent jew so you end up paying of some kikes mortgage.

Who give a shit what you think, you're going to die and be forgotten.

In fact who gives a shit about what anyone thinks?

That's like late teens high-school shit.


Also respond to this like I know you want to.

So now you're skewing the terms of the argument. Who said anything about leeching from them? The NEET gamerpro who lives at home and hasn't had a job in five years is very different from the dutiful son who lives at home, working, helping with meals, etc.

If anything, in the latter case the familial bonds are strengthened, whereas if the son had moved out sooner they would have been weakened. This is especially true for daughters, who all too often become complete sluts when they move out and try to recreate Sex and the City in their personal lives. Perhaps they would benefit from more parental guidance into their twenties, until they're married.

It's good for the economy to have a system where children leave their parents' home at 18, that I don't doubt. I'm arguening that something is lost in this transaction, and that's strong family ties, a better sense of belonging to the family unit, and probably in the case of girls, better values

>my daughter should live with me well into her 40s a pure virgin flower helping out with making meals and never drinking or having sex
>maybe she can meet a boy at church and they can hold hands a couple times before they get married and have sex once to create children

this little house on the prairie shit lol...

>mfw my dad is killing himself a 30-rack of Busch Light at a time and I'll probably be inheriting half his house(split with a sibling) within the next 5 years along with half his 401k

If I can't stop him from drinking I might as well start thinking about what I'm going to do with the inheritance

But this mean you gotta live with parents til you are 50 man. Most of our parents made us when they were ~20

I'd say you are getting close to the break-off point, and have a good plan ahead. Make it soon, and grab the world by the balls.

I was out the door at 20. had a decent job, and did the roommate thing for a year, then got a small apt on my own. Good times and much growth ensued during those 3 years.

Doing much better now that I ever thought I would because I chose to not make some of the decisions some of my friends made. Worked out in the end.

>the world sucks and women are whores, instead of changing this we should change ourselves and fuck as much as we can until we die

Enjoy your nihilistic, slow march to death, faggot

My boys were both gone before 20. I love them with all my heart and have a great relationship with them. We didn't kick them out but they knew they had to live adult lives with responsibilities as well as the freedom that comes from leaving mommy and daddy's nest. Everyone has a reason why millennials are staying at home, I have my own. A lack of desire, it's not that they can't or won't, they just don't WANT to. It's easier staying home where meals are cooked, utilities are paid, maintenance is done all by someone else. You also can never truly understand budgeting till you are on your own. Where every penny counts and eating out has a real cost when you get a disconnect notice for your lights.

They last 7 years has done wonders for my marriage as well, you don't realize how much privacy you lose as a parent till they leave.

No value?
>computers, laptops, tablets, phones, phone contracts, substantial allowance, driving eveywhere, house maintenance, income into home
All stopped. You want a war of attrition? Let's see who needs who more.

And all I expected was an introduction - user, this is dickhead, dickhead this is user. Nice to meet you. And you too.

Too much to ask?

>sex is bad

this is selfish also if he incurs huge medical costs (which alcoholism usually does) you're not going to see much

>Sup Forums: "what's happening to the nuclear family?"
>also Sup Forums: "it doesn't matter if it financially makes sense, you shouldn't rely on your family"

As long as you're contributing and progressing who gives a fuck what anyone here thinks

quality post

25 year old neets here will get triggered though because they think mommy genuinely enjoys cooking them tendies every day while they play call of duty like its a full time job

In the year 2017, there is no age that is too degenerate.

I'm 29 and live in commiefornia
>work full time making $80k/year
>work location is 15 minutes from my parents house
>cost to rent a one bedroom apartment in my area is about $1,400/month not including utilities
>could choose to live in an apartment, but it would be too close to my parents house and the parking situation would be an annoyance
>instead just live at parents house rent free, while only having to pay money for food and gas, and saving the rest for a house or to invest


If you can find a career that's near your parents house, it's a pretty good setup.

I was worried that I would have a huge problem with women because of the stigma of being 29 and living with parents, but I haven't had any issues and some of them even see it as a positive thing.

Nope.

Over time the rents you pay could easily be a deposit on a house you could buy.

Plus it allows you to save alot more even if you do pay some rent with your folks so you have more liquid cash which allows you more freedom.

Even if you choose to never move out you will gain a debt free house but you could be waiting years.

Rents these days are fucking expensive and getting a deposit is about at least 10% of the value of the property and hose prices are not going down anytime soon.

It's degenerate to live without parents. You do this only so you an have degenerate sex which do not produce children.

But who will care for you at the end?

a filipina house keeper.

she will probably steal stuff from my house but it will be okay as long as she is hot and gives me a hand job while she changes my adult diaper

That's fucking nothing. As soon as I learned to walk my parents abandoned me in the woods, as every true Spaniard does. When I came out of the woods I was already a man and had a wife and two jobs.

There is a reason the Iberian wolf is disappearing.

How else would they make space for Ahmed to live with them?

In this day and age there's no set age to leave your parents. I'm 19 and I live in a labor wasteland. Nothing here, no opportunity. Live with my mother. Economy's too fucked up to even consider leaving when you turn 18.

Let me tell you guys a story -

>be 16 year old me
>bump into girl. I love her. She loves user
>both live at home
>we need to be together. Not spending a couple of evenings fucking in our childhgood bedrooms. We need to be TOGETHER
>Find cheap apartment
>we scrabble together a deposit and first months rent
>we leave home
>parents are upset and worried
>2 years later my mum buys us a sofa
>5 years later my mum buys us a fridge for our first home we bought
>10 years later we own a couple of properties and life is good but really hard with work
>15 years later things are settling down. Life is good
>20 years later and we've had some ups and downs but we love each other and we're OK
>25 years later and things aren't great. mMy girlfriend is ill. I'm worried.
>30 years later my girlfriend died.

It was an amazing ride. I wouldn't change a thing. It ended sooner than it should have and that sucks. But we were together and grew up together.

I'm so glad I didn't sit at home in my childhood bedroom waiting for....what?

Life is outside. It's not in your parents spare room.

Go and find it and to hell with tomorrow.

Let em get triggered. I'm leaving in an hour to pick up my dream car 1968 Camaro with money I wouldn't have if my kids had mooched after becoming adults.

most people who do that kind of thing now end up on the Jeremy Kyle show two years after they move out.

this bro

Wrong.
Most people that do that today are quietly getting on with living a life. They're young and in love and enjoying heir lives.

As a landlord (with more than a few properties) I see quite a few young couples every week. It always makes smile when I see that spark between them.

They're trying to strike out. That's to be admired in my book.

OK, 16 is probably very young even for my generation but we were in love and it was legal to leave home. We couldn't wait to be together.

ackbar detected.

>no jobs here
>stay here and leech off my mom

whew

or you could try moving? fucking NEETs

My sister moved out at 26, but she worked and saved a lot of money while paying some rent to my parents. I moved out at 21 simply because I wanted to.

Go for it. Moving out at 18 is a Jewish scam that only the Americans have fallen for, in the rest of the world it's common for kids to live with their parents well into their 20s. Save 80+% of your income, buy your own property in a few years and you'll have a huge head start in life.

If you're coming to this website, dont be concerned about being a degenerate. Cause you already are

You did this during a time where the economy was a lot more friendly and property prices were affordable. Stupid fucking autist.

I live in a Democratic state, New York to be exact.

>try moving
Can't. It's not procrastination (although some), I'm just a very unlucky individual. And nice try generalizing me m9.

I'd agree with this user. So long as you've got things going on it's perfectly fine if not a little uncomfortable sometimes.

There's nothing wrong with this. As long as you're saving and being respectful to their house.

Buy some groceries too.