Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
don't really know, just a spanish temporarily here in Italy I can tell they don't tolerate fascists like we do though
Cameron Watson
also I'm seeing a lot of commie graffittis around the universities
David Williams
Why so anxious my lumpenprole ?
Justin Edwards
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Grayson Powell
can second this as an ex erasmus student in Italy. but I tought Spain was like shitaly regarding these commies
Jacob Roberts
Fuck off jew filth
Dominic Murphy
no, we are secretly filled with fascism and neoliberals
like with actual politic prisioners and special jails for refugees
Julian Ross
Dude what's the point in making this thread if you don't participate in any of the discussions?
Brayden Ramirez
Zajebiście! Kolejny dzień i kolejny komunistyczny fred. Niech ktoś tą hiszpańską kurwę zajebie bo nie wytrzymam. Jak bardzo trzeba być spierdolonym umysłowo aby dzień w dzień napierdalać jebane komunistyczne gówno.
Eli Brooks
communism became a joke after America shined the light of liberty around the world(ww2)...
it will always be just a funny joke the needlessly killed tens of millions
Ethan Rodriguez
Not op,every time i reply in defense of socialism with arguments and facts people either 1) go full sperg and ad hominem 2) ask for reading material
You can never argue against a materialist ideology when your own ideology is based on fees>reals and political/historical illiteracy
Nicholas Barnes
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Noah Gutierrez
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Justin Torres
Did you guys even start reading the manifesto?
James Morris
system of failed bullshit designed by jews, to enrich jews.
Nathaniel Roberts
Fpbp
Angel Fisher
All commies should hang.
Aiden Myers
wow luv ussr so much
Brandon Roberts
T.hanks ameribro
Kayden Jackson
Last thread I was in died before I realized I had gotten a reply. Do you guys ever address the shortcomings of communism with something other than muh magic AI? Claiming you'll develop a technological means to bypass all of commism's shortcomings (no price signals, no incentives for labor, etc.) sounds like bullshit. You're basically saying "will find some way to make it work" rather than directly addressing the structural shortcomings of communism (to include the "transitional" stage of socialism).
Noah Reed
Yeah. I just finished reading and didn't changed my opinion on Marx.
Carson King
/thread
Henry Nguyen
>have to justify every single trivial detail of communism >ignore glaring issues and unsustainability of capitalism
Jackson Evans
Never mind that communism is dysgenic both in theory and in practice. It is almost hysterical the mental gymnastics one goes through to justify not feeding the bear but not seeing the same in bailing out the dirty and the stupid. Subsidizing sub humans and the useless just begets more of the same.
Hunter Myers
Never gets old
And sonik
Colton Morales
>capitalism is fully functional and successful all over the world with some problems >communism is an abject failure every time it's attempted >trivial details >glaring problems silly leaf
Evan Cook
>attempts to change the whole system by giving full power to the government >fucking ple... i mean fellow workers why are you pointing out our flaws in our flawless ideology?
Bentley Gomez
"WAITING IN 1000 MILE LONG QUEUE BEFORE THE SUPERMARKET" INTENSIFIES
Cameron Mitchell
Hey it's everyone's favorite anti-commie thread again :D
Anthony Thomas
>evry1 should be = cause were all human beans nd wealth is a zero sum game is not feels>reals but >organizing society around voluntary interactions is more efficient and promotes societal advancement more than a authoritarian bureaucracy is?
Last thread I was in
Jaxson Smith
>Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
We have to liquidate a bunch of folks to be more moral. Lol!
Nathaniel Ortiz
Mmm that's a nice manifesto.
Ian Turner
>killing 100 million of our own people was worth it for a good economy >killing
Ian Lewis
>evry1 should be = cause were all human beans nd wealth is a zero sum game
Thats not socialism
>organizing society around voluntary interactions is more efficient and promotes societal advancement
Wage labor is not voluntary becauae you have to sell your labor if you dont want to starve since the capitalists control the means of production and protect their ownership through the threat of state violence
There is no logical reason why someone should own a factory and steal surplus labor value. Capitalists are parasites thatthat have managed to push their neoliberal ideology on the workers so they dont even grasp their own exploitation and be divided by spooks like religion/ethnicity etc
It is all done to suppress class consciousness. The us is an example of peak liberalism, where the political scenery is considered to be without 2 forms of liberalism and notions like "the left" are apropriated to mean "social liberals"
Zachary Richardson
More like 500 gorillion
Hudson Ramirez
>marxist communism >next stage to capitalism
inb4 u kys, explain your 21st century "Commie" paradise for us, unknowledgable autist cripples. I'm just waking up and need to have a good 1st laugh of the day.
Jace Anderson
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Kevin Bailey
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Joshua Brooks
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Caleb Gray
Karl Marx was too stupid to comprehend the Republic
Owen Hughes
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Ayden Butler
>Wage labor is not voluntary becauae you have to sell your labor if you dont want to starve Why is this always the crux of the issue for commies? It always boils down to them feeling that one's material condition being dependent on the value of their labor is somehow wrong.
Noah Hernandez
>value of their labor Well, if the value you received is disproportionate to the value you produced, some people object to that sort of thing.
Sebastian Green
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Jaxson Parker
John Cena is Aryan Ubermensch
Quick Rundown:
>McMahons bow to Cena >In contact with Hitler >Possesses charisma-like abilities >Control WWE with an iron but fair 5 knuckle shuffle >Owns packed arenas & WWE network globally >Direct descendant Nazi Eugenics >Will bankroll the first cities in New Swabia (Cenadorf will be be the first city) >Owns 99% of Aryan Eugenics research facilities on Earth >First designer baby (lebensborn) was Cena's grandfather: Johann Cena >Both pecs said to have 215 T/E ratios, such abundance of Anaboloic Steroids on Earth has only existed deep in WWE lockerrooms. >Ancient Nordic scriptures tell of an Ubermensch who will descend upon Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them >He has sexual conquests around the world >Your girlfriend likely has Cena DNA inside her right now >Cena is in regular communication with the his own "Hitler Youth" type movement known as 'Cenation' where he promotes the traditionalist Nazi philosophy through his personal mantras - "Never Give Up" "Hustle, Loyalty, Respect" >Visits hospitals and medical facilities around the world to check up on Eugenics research, uses cover of 'visiting sick children' through charitable funding. >He set up the meeting between the Pope & the Orthodox high command (First meeting between the two organisations in over 1000 years) and arranged the Orthodox leader’s first trip to Antarctica in history literally a few days later to the Nazi bunker in Wilkes land? - Talks to heal traditional Christian faith. >He defeated "The Rock" and his mixed race miscegenation agenda in the WWE ring. >Nation states beginning to entrust their youth to Cena's teachings. Pan-europeanism is failing, Cenationalism is rising. >In reality, he represents a timeless ideal of Aryan exceptionalism - the uniquely Aryan notion that man must 'never give up' in his quest toward aesthetic beauty and achievement of a higher state of being.
Jaxson Thompson
Plebbit?
Dominic Morgan
Good goy, concentrate the power in the hands of the few, that will reduce inequality.
Mason Rivera
Yes. Now please return to the motherland.
Adam Green
Nice resolution faggot. What are you saving those bits for?
Jace Hernandez
I'd get banned for being a "brocialist", i.e. rejecting idpol.
Jace Morales
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Ryder King
kys comuna filho da puta jamon do caralho. o teu pai é um boi e a tua mãe uma vaca.
Jonathan Thompson
Highly suspect infiltration by liberals and/or alphabets.
Lincoln Price
Дa!
Dominic Richardson
Communism didn't make anime. I don't want it.
Carter Williams
Fuck you commie faggot, go suck comrade dick.
Jacob Nelson
>Being this denial >Mocking Sup Forums for scapegoating the j00s >I-its the alphabets and liberals infiltrated the reddit!
Ian Campbell
That's probably the only good argument against Communism.
Socialist Realism just doesn't cut it.
Jace Taylor
If you feel your wages do not accurately reflect the value of your labor then you are free to sell your labor somewhere else (something you can't do under communism). If you want to receive wages equal to the value you produced, then how is the factory maintained? How are raw materials acquired? Where is the means and incentive to invest in new factories?
Easton Lopez
I understand that the ideology you associate with has never been as relevant as socialism/communism, but we actually have a history of subversion and repression that goes back 100 years.
Brayden Ross
And that's where the #NotRealSocialism comes in.
Evan Robinson
USA >owned by cuckold media >women have had around 40+ previous sexual partners while the are masses of white male virgins >reality shows are an inspiration for american children >courts heavily favor women >coalburning is at an all time high >has a fat problem >has a nigger gang problem >their men are circumcised >it's going to be a matriarchy USA will have Elizabeth Warren as their President in 2020, as the Liberals and Mexicans will turn out as majority voters by then.
Britain >It has Shari'ah zones >CCTV literally everywhere, and in peoples homes >Street checkpoints (police search you for drugs on every corner) >all women under 29 years old have 11pm-6am curfews >your home gets a monthly searching >TV licensing is just half price if you're a Muslim or Native brit (double the price for non Muslims and brits) >police search anyone who steps off public transport (including celebrities who step out of limousines) >our women (in the eastern region) aren't even allowed to speak in public without being granted permission >all metal cutlery is banned (get a life, bin that knife) >all plates and dishes are banned (know your fate, bin that plate) (bin that dish & make a wish) >instead they use plastic cutlery and paper plates >.....and muslim Myor Britain is also practicing a form of Islamic communism within their country, and it's working.
Have your heard of Anjem Choudary, their future Prime Minister?
Noah Garcia
>something you can't do under communism Well, wages no longer make sense under communism, so >Where is the means and incentive to invest in new factories? Government owned banking giving out loans to start up a coop. Financing new ventures isn't difficult.
Joshua Phillips
>Islamic communism Ba'athism? Last I checked islamig gommunism was a meme, but was at least secular that produced all those nice pictures of middle easterners looking western.
Grayson Martinez
Eugenics are a meme.
William Morris
>abject failure Nice meme. You should see how many times capitalism fails.
Lincoln Watson
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Owen Roberts
Sure it wasn't 100 trillion personally eaten for breakfast by Stalin himself?
Lincoln Morris
Every single time, it's the same catalunyan cuck making these threads. I wish the newfags got to see exactly how retarded you faggots were during your 2 weeks of /leftypol/ shilling.
Daily reminder that you are the harmful bourgeoisie element and not the oppressed proletariat.
Isaiah Moore
Bump
Asher Bell
Catalonia was a mistake.
We're gonna bomb them to the stone age. Don't you worry. Catalans are literally jewish.
