I know Islam is violent currently and Christianity was in the past (in response to Islam) but the only way we can...

I know Islam is violent currently and Christianity was in the past (in response to Islam) but the only way we can prevent Islam from taking over is to denounce all religions. The left is going to continue to empower Islam unless we call bullshit on Christianity and other religions at the same time. There's no place for religion in the modern world and Islam only exists to either completely wake us all the fuck up or enslave us to ideology.

Underage atheist retard detected.

>denounce all religions
Except from yours, right schlomo?
Fuck off, Jesus is the base of our western society, read some Nietzsche if you wanna learn what happens when religion dissappears.

>Christianity was in the past (in response to Islam)

Christianity was around before Islam you fucking mong

>The left is going to continue to empower Islam unless we call bullshit on Christianity and other religions

What makes you think that our attitude towards Christianity would change their attitude towards Islam? The end result would be a further divide on the right on tihs issue.

you cant be allowed to marry your first cousin

islam BTFOed

I'm Catholic but I will denounce it if it means Islam ceases to exist.

According to the Quran Hitler did nothing wrong. Killing Jews and waging war against a godless atheist state is perfectly within "islamic law".

So much for your 6 million. If anything the only thing he did wrong, according to islam, was fail to get the rest of the jews.

I think the reason biblical figures are humans and not some other apparition is so that they can be heros.

I'm an atheist, but maybe it would be a better world if we all tried to be a little more like Jesus.

>Denounce your religion goy!

Fuck off. We are a Christian people, and we ought to try as hard as we can to preserve these Christian, traditional moral values.

Atheism leads to degeneracy and a lack of moral fibre. It is a catalyst for societal decay.

>There's no place for religion in the modern world
that's why the modern world is on a downward spiral into chaos.
we have to go back

it's not even a Quran quote. It's a quote from Ibn Ishaq, look at the date 992. It's almost 400 years after the Quran was revealed

>I'm Catholic
>implying

Christianity was just a stepping stone in the evolution of morality. It's no longer needed.

>"bible vs quran"
>Qur'an verse isn't from Qur'an but from hadith

k

They said Christianity was violent in response to Islam, not that it existed in response. Sheesh the reading comprehension these days.

It's the foundation of morality you heretical degenerate.

You're a retard. This kind of whataboutism is exactly why we are not dealing with Islam. "b-b-but Christianity" I hope you get assaulted by some Muslim terrorist. Then you'll se the fucking difference.

>let's have morality with no ontological basis
good luck, goy
"this hurts my feelings" doesn't have the same clout as "this is objectively wrong"

>Ibn Ishaq 992

You don't even know who that is.

Stripping off your the epidermis of your skin while you're screaming in agony is technically only hurting your feelings user, as you'll make a full recovery.

So please tell me again, why "this hurts my feelings" isn't at a part, at least, of "objective morality".

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who says it isn't?
i don't know how you got "anything that hurts your feelings can't actually be objectively immoral" from what i wrote

You forgot the torah, filthy kike.

Honestly, Bible is the cucked religion. Just look at what those "holy words" are doing for the west, opening up our borders to muslims. Muslims may be barbaric but at least they're true to their faith.

The foundation for morality existed long before the Roman's were hanging kike's from sticks.

we elected the wall guy, 71% of your people voted clinton here

this

>(in response to Islam)
Uh, no. Christians in the middle ages did plenty of fucked up shit to their own people. The difference is Christianity had an enlightenment/secularism revolution whereas Islam became even more fundamentalist.

ISLAM IS AN APOSTATIZED FORM OF CHRISTIANITY.

>mfw faggot OP doent know that "muhammad grew up as a boy around jews hearing the stories of the torah (old testament) and of Jesusmfw faggot OP doesn't know muhammad would have scribes write down his "revelations" while he convulsed and foamed at the mouthyouignorantfuck.jpegI read them both and can talk from muh acquired knowledge

>the bible is the only absolute truth, dont lie and claim
>>I read them both and can talk from muh acquired knowledge

>read some Nietzsche
>endorses christcuck slave morality

>Suggests we abandon Christian morality and replace it with nothing

Great idea, comrade, what could go wrong

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>with nothing
>the only theological positions are christianity and atheism

About all you need to know. Also helps to distinguish between cults, religions and philosophies.

>he claims the bible is absolute truth
he's right though

>Let's get rid of the one thing that has prevented the rise of degeneracy and evil within the West, and has been the shield protecting it from all manner of evil and corruption for the past thousand years!
>Nothing can go wrong with this plan!

If you want to embrace mindless hedonism, let ((Judaism)) engulf the West, and have your children raped and bled dry for Moloch and Saturn, be my guest OP. Just don't bring your degeneracy over here. Keep it on Reddit.

>Pic related is OP

OK

>Quran
>Posts hadith
Are americans this retarded?

>A Leaf.
>Knowing anything about Christianity.

Come back to us when your country learns how to stop fucking dogs in the ass, Leaf.

christianity was violent against paganism too, we were a source of holy war too, don't be an ass

Fedora tipper

That is not entirely true. I was raised without religion and have always been non-degenerate. I don't even succumb to the erotic jew like half the people in the thread now with a second tab open to pornhub or what have you. I recognize the values of honor, honesty, community, and family that religion teaches but these values can just as easily be imparted through a proper upbringing. You don't need religious baggage with it.

>scoffs at the bible

>a proper upbringing.
you had this because you're in a majority Christian nation with a majority Christian culture.
your children (if you're one of the few atheists who breed) may not be so lucky.

That's nonsense. The values existed before your religion did.

Really? You know this how? I am good without God.

>The values existed before your religion did.
agreed, moral truths are objective, the basis for moral truth values existed long before my religion did aswell (God)

without something to ground moral truths in, the response to "stealing is wrong" becomes "says who?"
if the answer to that question is "the laws of our land," then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught.
if the answer to that question is "my feelings," why should anyone else care, feelings are subjective to the individual.

This person gets it!

Two Abrahamic Judean religions switching roles through history like Democrats and Republicans switch roles, like Satan and Angels are two sides. Notice how Pope declared recently that hell ain't a thing, melt goyim, melt into one.
The final mission Abrahamic goys is to join in peace and harmony, go on goy, melt into each other so there's no obstacle for international business and you are all the same before Jew god as in Matrix. One goy world under god of machine, Jew will show you the way, will show you when it's time.

Jamaica? Did the Spaniards gets to you too?
I worship seasonal Pagan Gods myself. For now it's the alpine snow Gods. soon it will be the white sand river Gods.

The Gods gave you a brain to find them, why on this green earth you would worship a succession of despots from Rome is beyond me but good luck with that!

t. Jew

only because in your worldview, what's "good" is subjectively defined. it's not a fact, it's an opinion.
>i like pepsi

Only children believe in fairy tales.

Hitler admired Islam for a reason.

It is absolute truth though...

Moral authority = punishment by law.
Catch them, punish them, teach them, show other the example of punishment, elevate the world into better place.

This.

Pretty shitty Catholic desu

>be like me, user. Read Nietzsche.

Judaism then? Is this what you want, Schlomo?

>I'm Catholic but I will denounce it if it means Islam ceases to exist.
t. David Levinson

look

i converted to islam 20 years ago

I will tell you this, listen closely.

ISLAM is not a religion of peace
It's entire goal is to convert EVERYONE.

the Quran is the word of god. PERIOD.
unlike the christian religion, where your bible has gone though many conversions because the original text was too violent for todays society (stoning your son for lying, stoning your wife for adultry)
Islam WILL NEVER water down the Quran. because it's believed to be the ACTUAL word of god. And therefore can never be contradicted.

So for all you fucking morons that are on the fence
TRUST ME when i say, until the entire world is under islam. The bombings, everything that is bad with islam. Will happen.
And then even when the world has converted. Now we have 3 differents secs of islam. Sunni, shiite and I forget the other one (very small)

END OF STORY. PERIOD. THAT"S ALL.

The only moderate country I have actually visited, is Indonesia. But burn a quran and they will easily go from easy going moderate, to fucking hard core, string you up Islamic fighter. In a second.

what if pic related is in charge of writing the laws that are to be enforced?
is xhe still to be considered the arbiter of morality?

>Christianity was in the past (in response to Islam)
Revisionist faggot

This nigga gets it. Nothing good ever happens when non-Christians start writing laws and shit.

>The only way to tratment brain cancer is to try all the chemos
retard

>jumps into a conversation on how atheists can be moral
>lies
kek

"...those who live by mystery & charlatanerie, fearing you would render them useless by simplifying the Christian philosophy, the most sublime & benevolent, but most perverted system that ever shone on man, endeavored to crush your well earnt, & well deserved fame." (full sentence, thomas jefferson)

the franklin one is just flat out fake

the george washington quote is a quote by john adams, sent in a letter to appease a bunch of muslim pirates


whatever christian tricked you into saving and posting that image is a 10/10 troll

>b-but you're pic was wrong
My point still stands. You got a problem with non-Christians making laws because "muh moral foundations are religious" then you should leave America. The founding fathers were not Christian and this country and it's constitution were not written with Christian values in mind.

>The founding fathers were not Christian
yeah they were.
a small fraction of them may have been Christian deists, but that's still christian though in a sense.
but regardless, my ancestors who helped build this country sure as hell were Christian.

>this country and it's constitution were not written with Christian values in mind.
sure wasn't built on atheism™

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

"The right to freedom being the gift of the Almighty…The rights of the colonists as Christians…may be best understood by reading and carefully studying the institutions of The Great Law Giver and Head of the Christian Church, which are to be found clearly written and promulgated in the New Testament." --Samuel Adams

"Principally, and first of all, I resign my soul to the Almighty Being who gave it, and my body I commit to the dust, relying on the merits of Jesus Christ for the pardon of my sins." --Samuel Adams

"The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were. . . . the general principles of Christianity. . . . I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God; and that those principles of liberty are as unalterable as human nature." --John Adams

"I believe in one God, the Creator of the universe; that he governs it by his Providence; that be ought to be worshipped; that the. most acceptable service we can render to him is doing good to his other children; that the soul of man is immortal, and will be treated with justice in another life respecting its conduct in this. These I take to be the fundamental points of all sound religion, and I regard them as you do, in whatever sect I meet with them. As to Jesus of Nazareth, my opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think his system of morals and his religion, as be left them to us, the best the world ever saw, or is like to see; but I apprehend it has received various corrupting changes, and I have, with most of the present Dissenters in England, some doubts as to his divinity; though it is a question I do not dogmatize upon, having never studied it." --Benjamin Franklin, 5 months before death

this this this

With Atheism you get no moral system because there is no higher authority. The outcome of the system vs. the veracity of the statement based on what you believe should be considered. Do you believe Atheism to be true? That is fine, but there will be no moral framework, no higher authority to hold societal rules for, no need for self-improvement.

I personally believe in God, but that isn't the issue. What the outcome of these systems are is the issue.

"I have a tender reliance on the mercy of the Almighty, through the merits of the Lord Jesus Christ. I am a sinner. I look to Him for mercy; pray for me." --Alexander Hamilton, last words

"This is all the inheritance I give to my dear family. The religion of Christ will give them one which will make them rich indeed." --Patrick Henry

"While in France . . . I do not recollect to have had more than two conversations with atheists about their tenents. The first was this: I was at a large party, of which were several of that description. They spoke freely and contemptuously of religion. I took no part in the conversation. In the course of it, one of them asked me if I believed in Christ? I answered that I did, and that I thanked God that I did." --John Jay

"You do well to wish to learn our arts and our ways of life and above all, the religion of Jesus Christ. These will make you a greater and happier people than you are. Congress will do everything they can to assist you in this wise intention." --George Washington

>pic related references the pledge of allegiance
Has nothing to do with the founding fathers.
>b-but the declaration of independence says "creator"
And it doesn't say "God", or "Jehovah". It's left open to interpretation because the founding fathers were Freemasons.

Also this.
>Separation of Church and State
What did Thomas Jefferson mean by this?

>t. atheist

Look

Goal #1 of Islam isn't peace nor it is to convert anyone, it is God, and God only.
Forcing conversion is wrong in Islam, I think you know it.

But I totally agree with your about the Bible, the Bible is more violent than the Quran, that's why society made up the "New Testament" and totally twisted and modified it.

But Islam can totally live without converting anyone, even at the time of the last prophet, Islam could coexist with Judaism and Christianity.

The thing is that nobody cares about Judaism, Christianity is fucking cucked in order to make it look like "peace and love" and disobey its own teachings and the Quran remains the only untouched religion. And religion isn't all about peace and love toward those who join Satan. So yeah people are pretty upset because the Quran is intolerant toward degeneracy.

>denounce all religions.

We should denounce language too. It's led to harm in the past. Technology too, that's a big no-no given it can vaporize entire cities now. Inequality as well, that's really mean.

What you're intending to eradicate is evil, which you're not going to accomplish in the absence of functionally objective tribal morality.

>Has nothing to do with the founding fathers.
I know, it was added to let you atheists know you don't belong here.
>Separation of Church and State
The phrase “separation of church and state” was initially coined by Baptists striving for religious toleration in Virginia, whose official state religion was then Anglican (Episcopalian). Baptists thought government limitations against religion illegitimate. James Madison and Thomas Jefferson championed their cause.
The preamble in Act Establishing Religious Freedom in Virginia (1786), affirms that “the Author of our Religion gave us our ‘free will.’” And that He “chose not to propagate it by coercions.” This legislation certainly did not diminish religious influence on government for it also provided stiff penalties for conducting business on the Sabbath.
Nor did the Constitution inhibit public displays of faith. At ratification, a majority of the thirteen several and sovereign states maintained official religions. The early Republic welcomed public worship. Church services were held in the U.S. Capitol and Treasury buildings every Sunday. The imagery in many federal buildings remains unmistakably biblical.
Americans are frequently reminded of what the revisionists deem our greatest achievement: “Separation of Church and State.” Crosses are ripped down in parks. Prayer has been banished from schools and the ACLU rampages to remove “under God” from the Pledge of Allegiance. Moreover, “Separation of Church and State” is nowhere found in the Constitution or any other founding legislation. Our forefathers would never countenance the restrictions on religion exacted today. Hanging the Ten Commandments on the wall of a county courthouse no more mandates religion than judges displaying the banner of their favorite sports team somehow equates to Congress establishing that team as preeminent.

Every single fucking religion except Islam has criticized and analyzed and mocked to major extent. The problem here is that sand death cult that refuses to accept any, you sound like a cucked liberal goy little faggot

you should re-read what you wrote, think on it, and then perform righteous self termination.

>Quran (8:38-39) - “Say to those who have disbelieved, if they cease (from disbelief) their past will be forgiven... And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do.”

What a stupid comparison. You're comparing having a false belief to using language?

Stop this foolishness and praise Kek!

I love how the pic says "Quran" but then quotes the hadeeths

Quote TRUE verses howbowdah ?

>Say to those who have disbelieved [that] if they cease, what has previously occurred will be forgiven for them. But if they return [to hostility] - then the precedent of the former [rebellious] peoples has already taken place.
>And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah . And if they cease - then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do.
"if they cease" suggest fighting, read the whole Surah instead of cherrypicking amerifat

Lmao true

>it was added to let you atheists know you don't belong here.
You mean atheists aren't allowed in a country that advocates religious freedom?
>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
What did the first amendment mean by this?

all muslims WILL be exterminated in the final battle Mohammed

Im doing pretty fine without God.

>Qur'an against degeneracy
>it permits pedophilia, polygamy and rape

>it permits pedophilia polygamy and rape
>ultimate proof that argentishit don't know the Quran since it allows sex between married willing man and woman
Leave

see if I care nerd

May it be God's will

>allowed
you're allowed, you're just not wanted.
>What did the first amendment mean by this?
read the post you're replying to and find out, you illiterate marxist pawn.

Nothing in the book says to do it though nigger. Christianity destroyed alot of the planet with no direct instructions to, just the word of the pope. You need to fucking get your head out of your ass and read some of the quran, The OIC runs pretty much all arab countries, and supersedes all government according to their constitutions(no law above sharia). So their constitutions may as well not even exists.

Educate yourself nigger.

You mean sex slaves?

This infographic is crap because none of the data controls for extraneous factors.

>"if they cease" suggest fighting
It seems to me that "if they cease" refers to "ceasing to believe in Allah". So if they "cease to believe in Allah" it's okay to fight and kill them until they do believe in Allah.

Or you could just act like you lack basic reading comprehension like you did before and misquote your holy book.

Forgot webm, kys swedecuck

>extraneous factors.
like what?