There shouldn't be anonymity on the internet.
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There isn't anonymity in the real world, so why should there be anonymity on the internet? Everyone should have an internet ID to be able to use the internet. This would stop 99%+ of racist trolls on the internet.
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Free market place of ideas doesn't work if you can shut people down by threatening their security in real life. It's no shock that less technologically illiterate communities are more prone to doxing and being permissive of doxing, for all Sup Forums's amorality doxing is still considered dirty here.
>there isn't any anonymity in the real world
1. Put on hoodie (maybe even a mask)
2. Walk up behind someone with a hard piece of metal to their back
3. Take their wallet
4. Dindu nuffin
Unfortunately the free market of ideas is regularly abused. Internet IDs mean that the free market like in the real world becomes regulated.
Yes and that's illegal.
Thanks for proving my point.
Whoa shit, more people think like this?
>about to say something
>look at flag
retard
clearblue smurf retard
you people pushed the based aussie meme hard then jammed your proxies over there
hate you so much
>infoworld
the only site I visit that starts with info ends with wars nigga
>so why should there be anonymity on the internet?
Because liberty.
Now fuck off.
no your point is that there ain't no anonymity in real life
Fuck off
It's abused by sophistry and censorship in the name of some poorly defined greater good. Somewhere like Sup Forums shuts people down quick if they abuse fallacies. Here is where the free market of ideas works well.
So because you have IDs it means you have on liberty? How so?
Lol also ironic because Republicans are always calling for voter IDs. How come IDs are bad all of a sudden? Also does having an ID to drive means you have no liberty?
lolberts are dumb
"There shouldn't be anonymity on the internet."
dropped.
eat shit OP
literally kill yourself
if your posts are genuine kill yourself and your entire bloodline they don't deserve to breathe the same air as me
It's true. You really have no anonymity in real life. Putting a mask over your head and coming crimes doesn't mean you're anonymous. You can be easily tracked and caught by the police.
An internet ID would be the same as any other type of ID you already have. You need an ID for everything these days why should the Internet be excluded? Fuck your lolbert anarchy
you are dumb
Look at the debating rules on the top of Sup Forums. These are how thought within each individual is conducted. Their emotions can color their thoughts and direct their goals, but if they are thinking optimally, these rules are held to in each of our inner dialogues.
Without anonymity we enable the ad baculum fallacy. This can only hinder and stifle online discourse and the 'thoughts' of our internet hive mind.
>If you need an ID to prove who you are you always have to prove who you are :^)
>If a woman has sex with you once she always has to have sex with you :^)
That's the level of shit your mind works in. Call a plumber.
This is an excellent idea - the internet is a horrible, nasty place. It's like being permanently stuck in high-school where only the "cool" kids get to raise and discuss what they think are issues, anonymity has destroyed free speech, because if you are anonymous then no one takes you seriously, you are branded as a coward for not revealing your identity and you are just another fake news writer.
>You can be easily tracked and caught by the police.
>easily
If we had internet IDs you wouldn't be so mean.
Do you tell people who disagree with you in real life to 'eat shit' and 'kill yourself'? No. You show manners and courtesy because you are not hiding behind a mask.
How else we supposed to pretend we deep state CIA with the inside INFO
>for all Sup Forums's amorality, doxing is still considered dirty here
Kek, Sup Forums doxes our own just because they gave to much information in a thread. We have dox numerous cucks here and Sup Forums supports doxing. In fact there's even an user in one of the discord channels around here that is currently developing an application for us to congregate and dox liberal targets without getting banned. Sup Forums is pro-dox, it is one of our weapons since we dont commit real word nigger-tier violence. We do shit like doxing, right wing safety squads, disinformation (pic related) and even the more technologically literate anons hack people.
because it's useless
you really think america is going to be able to issue everybody an internet key/ID, force every site int he world to adhere to their bullshit system
not leak all of the keys out to everyone
fork the internet into AOL and useful internet that anybody who doesn't have/want a key will use
literally turn the internet into cable TV where sites and users have to follow an ever restrictive set of bullshit rules
if you can't handle trolls or people being assholes then stick to playground sites that issue their own keys/ID
internet doesn't need to be fixed, it's not broken.
>There shouldn't be anonymity on the internet.
>Implying there is any
>doxxing is still considered dirty here
>he missed the Liam threads
No? Yes I do you fucking shitlord.
What kind of faggot can't speak his mind IRL?
Again fucking kill yourself.
Hey, if you think anonymity is such a bad idea how about you post your legal ID and other identifying information in this thread you absolute faggot?
I will defend TO THE DEATH my rights. You should be shot in the street you cunt.
No, I would poo ball you
nobody would mind
some people would even cheer
if anything this would fuck over shills more
anonymity is equality
Nobody cares what you think - especially if you put your name on it.
Be a cool kid and pick up good ideas dropped by anons.
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>You can be easily tracked and caught by the police.
You mean the same as the internet? Unless you're behind seven proxys uncle CIA knows who you are.
I'd vote against my loss of the right to be anonymous. That means that the least free nations must abuse their citizens first. A move no nation wants to make.
We will have anonymous for some time yet.
Driving a car is pretty much anymous. Otherwise women wouldn't drive as much. We would destroy them if we could tell them how shitty their driving is.
>Steals your ID keys cause you suck at the cyber
>Goes full Nazi on the internet with your keys
>Watches as you get black bagged by SJWs on the full surveillance video network
But the internet is already a hive mind. Just look at Sup Forums -- it's 100% a hive mind. If you disagree with the popular opinion you are considered a shill and your thread and viewpoints are sage'd. It's no different than a downvote on Reddit.
There isn't clean water in Africa, why should we have clean water here?
I come to the internet because the real world sucks due to the fact that you can't tell turd-brains to eat shit and kill themselves.
>he thinks the internet is anonymous
Newfag.
You are a fucking loser. You arnt even smart enough to be a shill.
>Hey, if you think anonymity is such a bad idea how about you post your legal ID and other identifying information in this thread you absolute faggot?
This is not an argument.
>I will defend TO THE DEATH my rights.
You already have no anonymity, though. Internet IDs are the logical conclusion of where we are headed. deal with it!
>There isn't anonymity in the real world
Do you walk around with your ID glued onto your forehead?
>There should be no anonymity online because there is none in real life
>WE CAN'T MANDATE VOTER IDENTIFICATION BECAUSE MUH OPPRESSION
(You)
If your idea is good and can win arguments people will take it on though because the truth hurts. This bumps the thread. Then others see the argument works and have the same argument in other threads, and you do the same when you see a good argument.
>These guys want to remove anonymity and get third worlders tortured and killed by their repressive regimes.
"The internet should not be anonymous so we don't have these alt-right manchild 400 lb hackers causing trouble without putting their skin in the game"
>Repressive governments use the lack of internet anonymity to persecute, harass and imprison LGBT/liberal/feminist activists.
>Businesses fire employees who promote far-left socialist/communist type feelings online.
You are still easily identifiable. You don't have a mask on.
We need to get rid of the mask to create a more open world.
Transparency is the future.
If you believe this, post your personal information. Otherwise you're a pansy ass hypocritical faggot.
uncle CIA doesn't know I'm a 400 lb hacker.
>Putting a mask over your head
>doesn't mean you are anonymous
>You CAN be tracked by police
not you will. As in the internet all about proper OpSec when robbing a Nigger
>An internet ID
IP address?
I don't understand what you're proposing - you're not anonymous on the internet since you have to go through an ISP to get that service and if needed, they could track your activities and help authorities find you.
Are you saying that every single person should see the personal details of all Internet users or something?
Without Anonymity, new ideas can ever truly be discussed.
Racism isn't illegal. What happened to wanting privacy.
>"The internet should not be anonymous so we don't have these alt-right manchild 400 lb hackers causing trouble without putting their skin in the game"
This 100%. The internet would be a far more productive, open and safe place without these millions of trolls.
Most people wouldn't mind because they're not trolls hiding behind a mask in their mum's basement.
>You are still easily identifiable
Go check out your local wanted list by the police and see how many "easily identifiable" faces have been caught on camera.
I'm afraid I'll have to ask you to identify yourself to take this thread seriously
Of course there is anonymity away from keyboard. Anonymity is your default state.
This isn't true. See: science. Are all these scientists anonymous? No. They're using their real name.
>There isn't anonymity in the real world
oh yes there is
>This is not an argument.
What, are you saying you are scared to post with your real identity online? It's not going to change the things you talk about is it?
If you are so for internet IDs why wouldn't you post it?
>You already have no anonymity, though.
The 1st amendment protects speech, anything infringing on that right with such things as INTERNET IDs chills speech.
And enjoy hackers using your ID to do illegal shit and you getting V&.
There is also no real way to enforce it. There will ALWAYS be anonymous communities.
People like you are a real threat to liberty and should be hung.
Anyone who has been on facebook or twitter recently would know this isn't true. People are just as inflammatory on facebook and twitter as anywhere else.
Go and make your own forced ID internet and see how well it goes for you.
I am sure it will work SO well for you that everyone will just flock to your internet!
So reveal your identification. Tell us who you are.
The irony being everyone would see you as a buffoon outside of certain circles.
I don't mind throwing away anonymity in a society with direct democracy but anything else is asking for tyranny and dictatorship.
I think that's what he's implying, what else?
So you'd be in favor of implementing thought crime, ever though what happens when those trolls or anything else other than "your" govt. gets access to what's illegal to think?
This isn't true. See: science. Are all of these scientists discuss? No. They're only discussing what has been established.
Bane?
It would be productive of only a soupy diarretic froth without trolls to pop the bubbles.
>Are all of these scientists discuss?
discussing
Disgusting typo.
A fucking grade A molypuppet with a twisted sense of reality. Seeing markets in everything you do is paranoid and not related to the real world.
>They're using their real name.
That is not true. Some controversial papers were published anonymously and when girls couldn't practice they published under pseudonyms.
If it's such a good idea, mind giving us everything you think should be public information according to you?
My name is Rahul Singh. 25 years old from Paramatta, Sydney, Australia.I am 5'9" 162 lbs, 4 inch penis. I make $55,000 a year annually as a network technicianI am single.
I'm not afraid of this. What do you have to hide? Racists are afraid i guess
>he thinks anonymity exists on the Internet
>Rahul Singh is an Indian film as an actor known for his works in Bollywood.
I don't think you understood my request
I will need a photo of your face next to an official ID paper, with a timestamp
You did not post a government issued ID this could be false.
Well we have no way to verify this, do you mind sharing proof of your identity, like identity card of sorts with time stamp?
Weak ass bait
You better pucker up that butt cheek, we bout to rape your ass
aye
1. Put on a hoodie (maybe even a mask)
2. Walk up behind someone and call them an idiot who knows nothing
3. Runaway
100% legal anonymity
That would actually make it easier for me to find Sup Forumsacks in my area. I could dump all my liberal friends and post personal opinions somewhere other than goybook.
What's your address?
Social security/number used for identification in Australia?
Date of birth?
Credit Card number, expiry, cv code, card type?
What was your last transaction? What was the amount?
i will if you do it also. this is not how it works guy.
if i post ID you will just make fun of my looks or something
my contention is that internet IDs should be for everybody. all at once.
ikr
that's not what an internet ID will entail, lol. try again.
I'm curious why you think we care what size your dick is.
>i will if you do it also. this is not how it works guy.
What do you have to hid? Fallacious arguers are afraid i guess.
Okay then, OP. Prove your commitment to your beliefs. Post a picture of yourself and give us your name, what city you live in, and what company you work for. There should be no anonymity, right? There isn't any irl, right? So this should not be a problem for you.
You can hide your face or things you think shouldn't be there, just share the government issued things with time stamp that you think should be shared with everyone. You can rip toilet paper or just use magic marker to hide your face, the ID cards are water proof.
Well, actually, you're wrong.
Such internet ID is necessary to purchase goods over the internet, or take out a loan, or other needed identification.
So, I ask again. What is your info? Are you afraid?
Again, right now if I post it would lead to a inequality of anomymity. I will be public.. you won't. In my scenario everyone will be public. So once again its a fallacy.
That's not how internet IDs would work. At most it will just be your real name and picture. Not your address. So it will be limited anonymity.
You're not in any position of power to bargain, nor would you be in the case you described
Your shitposting is weak, You're not worthy of that flag
yes afraid because you have anonymity and I don't. You can get away with whatever you do to me precisely because of this.
My proposal is that nobody should be anonyous and should have internet IDs.
You are committing the Tu quoque fallacy.
Fine. Real name and picture. No big deal, right?
en.wikipedia.org
Not an argument.
Except you don't have to carry around and display your ID at all times. A proper analogy to an "Internet ID" would be wearing a visible ID that everyone can easily read as they pass you by.
You do have anonymity in the real world. The only way anyone, whether cop or civilian, would know who you are is if you showed them your ID, which, again, you don't have to keep on your person visible to see at any time.
>At most it will just be your real name and picture
Well, we're waiting, bitch.
We've requested a picture. Why don't you lead by example and show us a picture ID?
So you are saying there will be no way, if we had an internet ID, to find out who you are without revealing our identity?
Are you that stupid?
And think about all of the raids, people would be fucked over even harder. It doesn't matter. People with opinions that say, piss of Sup Forums will just be fucked.