There are peaceful Muslims

However they are the heretics not obeying the quran. Radicalization is simply obeying the quran to the letter.

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saracens must be removed

>heresy of heresy
we need to go deeper

>There are peaceful Muslims

Yes. It always smart to speak out in ISIS controlled terrortory. Especially for the non cephalo-enclined like you my friend.

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Ever hard of Maliki Islam... As in all of North Africa? Soufism? Rushdism (which gave Descartes his basics)?
But hey I mean Christian do EVERYTHING THATS IN THE BIBLE TO THE LETTER. Everyone knows this.

Pretty much

Hes saying that a christian who follows the example role models laid out in the bible is a kind and open-minded person. If a muslim follows his role models laid out in the quran, he is a polygamous pedophilic warmonger.

Im not going to pretend that many christians closely adhere to the bible, but those who do are harmless spiritualists, not muderous radicals

stupid negro atheist, quran is the literal word of god, if you change it or not obey to the letter your are of bad faith

>a christian who follows the example role models laid out in the bible is a kind and open-minded person. If a muslim follows his role models laid out in the quran, he is a polygamous pedophilic warmonger.

And he brought out the people that were in it, and cut them with saws, and with harrows of iron, and with axes..." (I Chronicles 20:3)

Chapters 17-19 (17-18-19) tells us that David killed 22,000 Syrians and that Abishai killed 18,000 Edomites. No one expresses shame at such slaughters.


"Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people." (Deuteronomy 13:8-9)

"And Israel joined himself unto Baalpeor: and the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel. And the LORD said unto Moses, 'Take all the heads of the people and hang them up before the LORD against the sun, that the fierce anger of the LORD may be turned away from Israel.'" (Numbers 25:3-4)

> Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

>stupid negro atheist

Fuck you you kraut piece of shit. Go give Israel some reparations and suck on Greece s dick.

Fuck your mohammhed, fuck your jehova. Ave Satanas!!

dude, you negro mudslimes follow the fucking quran like sheep and go to some weird poo station to lay down a carpet
in christian countries christians don't even go to chruch, people never read the bible and they have only heard of the 10 commandments

big difference. you guys are insane

just yesterday I was told by my cab driver how allah decides everything, jeses was a man and not a god, and how the jews murdered him.

i hate this place. every day I pray for cleansing fire.

These are commandments given directly by God to the Israelites

God often used the Israelites an instrument of his judgment, but if they ever acted without God's commandment (as they once did) they would lose. God as the author of life has every right to take your life or mine, it is not ours to begin with.

Also I might add that often God would give people hundreds of years to repent, even Sodom and Gomorrah would not have been destroyed if there was ONE righteous person there, if you remember Abraham quarreling with God about it.

In the Qur'an, on the other hand, fighting all non-believers is given as a general commandment to all followers of Allah, it is not a direct commandment for a specific person in a specific period of time for a specific purpose.

Also, the Old Testament laws were meant for the Jews of that time only, nobody else back then and nobody at all now that Jesus has come.

>dude, you negro mudslimes follow the fucking quran like sheep and go to some weird poo station to lay down a carpet

Coming from a country renowned as the fatherland of scat porn that is rich.

>praying to a middle eastern demon

you're not even a country. you're colonialist fiction, dirtbro

>In the Qur'an, on the other hand, fighting all non-believers is given as a general commandment to all followers of Allah.

Listen you sound pretty articulate so I will give you a straight answer.

Islam has been historically very peaceful. Back when Spain was called Al Andalus Jews Muslims and Christians lived in peace and harmony together. You can check this fact for yourself.

So even the Fatimid caliphate of yonder was more humane than ISIS and Saudi and Iran...

Honestly we are almost 2 billion Muslims worldwide. If our book commanded us to Zerg rush over you sorts we would have done it by now.

>you're not even a country
Is that some wishful thinking by a poorfag kraut madlad I hear?
Keep on getting butt pounded by the Turks breh... Hold your tears like a big boy next kebab.

Except that it hasn't, the only way Islam spread was by the sword.

If you look at the Hadiths, it is filled with murder and warfare as well as other horrible acts by Mohammad and his followers. It is anything but peaceful.

Christians and Jews who didn't want to convert, were to pay the Jizya, if they didn't, they were killed. Polytheists and Atheists didn't even get this chance, they were killed immediately.

History is different than what the text says, you cannot look at Abu Ali your neighbor and say "Look how peaceful he is, Islam is peacefu". No. That's wrong, dangerous, and quite frankly stupid.

If you want to know Islam, you look at the Qur'an, you look at the Hadiths, and what you find there is horrific. Muslims who do not follow the teachings of Mohammad, are not real Muslims, this is according to the Qur'an itself, so I guess those billions of Muslims you're talking about are not real Muslims.

>poorfag kraut
dude, you're living in one of those "countries" people think when they hear the words 'poverty' or 'diarrhea'. And guess why? Because of islam. your religion lets you drink camel piss.

and btw. when we say remove kebab we're talking all muslims, not just roaches.

>Except that it hasn't, the only way Islam spread was by the sword.

Chinese were muslim before North Africa. Waqqas and his crew made exactly zero victims.

>If you look at the Hadiths
Fuck the hadiths and fuck the Sharia. You dont have to agree with them in order to be Muslim. Although I am Soufi so Saudi would probably dub me a heretic for political reasons.

>Christians and Jews who didn't want to convert, were to pay the Jizya

Come on now... We both now that is not Spanish Inquisition levels of inhumanity and horror.

>History is different than what the text says, you cannot look at Abu Ali your neighbor and say "Look how peaceful he is, Islam is peacefu".

How about you look at Tunisia which rates higher in Freedom of speech than fucking Israel.

>If you want to know Islam, you look at the Qur'an, you look at the Hadiths

Hadiths are political tools used to make Islam a weapon.

>I guess those billions of Muslims you're talking about are not real Muslims.

In that case I will have to say that those billions of Christians I have also talked about are not real Christians either.

Listen... Have it your way... Islam is SPOOKY EVIL OOGA BOOGA WE GON GET YOU,

>your religion lets you drink camel piss.
Did not know that... But I ll take it over obese German milf piss anyday scatboy.

Would oppose beheading in public and risk your life to make it stop? no? because you are a peacefull muslims... you guys are worthless. You are as useful as peaceful nazi....

>Would oppose beheading in public and risk your life to make it stop.

Lol nope. I would be applying for a refugee visa right after the first public beheading thank you very much.

look it up. it's causing mers.
(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_respiratory_syndrome)

this shit is part of the muslim tradition and leads to such beautiful headlines from all over the muslim world:

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3370464/Saudi-authorities-close-shop-selling-traditional-camel-urine-drinks-discovering-owner-filling-bottles-bodily-waste.html

and btw. the scat-shit is a result of german obsession with orderliness and hygiene. it's a weird thing, but has to be seen as what it is: pathology of the soul from to much work work work.

>Chinese were muslim before North Africa. Waqqas and his crew made exactly zero victims.
You found an exception, that's great, doesn't change the fact that Mohammad and his followers spread it violently

>Fuck the hadiths and fuck the Sharia. You dont have to agree with them in order to be Muslim. Although I am Soufi so Saudi would probably dub me a heretic for political reasons.
Qur'an says Mohammad is the role model, but there is no biographical info about him there, so where to find it? Hadiths.

Mohammad is the central figure, and his life is recorded in the Hadith, even if you don't need it theologically, it shows you how Islam came to be. It cannot be ignored or denied.

>Come on now... We both now that is not Spanish Inquisition levels of inhumanity and horror.
You can deny as much as you like, this is the history of Islam. You can close your eyes and ears, but it will be there.

>How about you look at Tunisia which rates higher in Freedom of speech than fucking Israel.
That is not even true, I know for a fact what it's like to live in Israel, and Arabs there have complete freedom to do whatever they like. In any case, this has nothing to do with what Islam itself teaches.

>Hadiths are political tools used to make Islam a weapon.
I don't care how they're used, what I care about is that the central figure of Islam is there, what he did, what he said, what he believed. I read it, to know more about Islam, and what I find is horrible.

>In that case I will have to say that those billions of Christians I have also talked about are not real Christians either.
Sure, if they constantly act in a way that contradicts the teaching of Jesus, you could say that. Christian means a follower of Christ, if you lie and kill and steal, then you're clearly not following Jesus Christ.

Islam is evil indeed, maybe you should read your own books someday.

>Chinese were muslim before North Africa. Waqqas and his crew made exactly zero victims.

citations needed

>Fuck the hadiths and fuck the Sharia. You dont have to agree with them in order to be Muslim. Although I am Soufi so Saudi would probably dub me a heretic for political reasons.

hadith and sunna are both important to islam that is the basis of your "virtues and values"

hence why you need sharia

>Come on now... We both now that is not Spanish Inquisition levels of inhumanity and horror.

forced conversion in the name of allah, relentless jihad, and radical islam plaguing the islamic world. no use of living the past, christianity has its bad times but past is past... christianity changed islam hasn't

>How about you look at Tunisia which rates higher in Freedom of speech than fucking Israel.

Censorship in Tunisia has been an issue since the country gained independence in 1956

all islamic countries has their own "censorship" far more terrible than the west

>Hadiths are political tools used to make Islam a weapon.

islam is a weapon by itself used by muhammad the pedo (military conquered people in the name of allah)

>In that case I will have to say that those billions of Christians I have also talked about are not real Christians either.

implying islam is better than any religion... even if islam wins its bad for you... you'll be living in an ISIS like environment... you wont like it

>pathology of the soul from to much work work work.

Does not seem to be from too much grammar grammar in your case. I thought you guys were all mini Fausts or something?

I tried to have a conversation with you man. But you love your boogeyman too much so keep it.

>That is not even true, I know for a fact what it's like to live in Israel

Just so you stop speaking out of your ass... Here is what the Jerusalem Post has to say about the subject matter:
jpost.com/Middle-East/Has-Tunisia-replaced-Israel-as-the-Middle-Easts-only-genuine-democracy-449905

>You found an exception, that's great, doesn't change the fact that Mohammad and his followers spread it violently

Waqqas was one of His earlisest followers... And that is a 21 million Muslim exception with a rich history and culture.

> B b b buh muh Hadiths

Islam has five pillars. Do them you get into heaven. That is what is in the Koran... Off to drink some lemonade. Keep on trippin boi. Although next time try reading a history book instead.

Fuck off Abdul

>citations needed

"Islam expanded gradually across the maritime and inland silk routes from the 7th to the 10th centuries through trade and diplomatic exchanges."

Dislocating China: Reflections on Muslims, Minorities and Other Subaltern Subjects
By Dru C. Gladney

>hadith and sunna are both important to islam that is the basis of your "virtues and values"

Wrong. Born muslim dont tell me what my religion is about.

>Censorship in Tunisia has been an issue since the country gained independence in 1956

You mean when we were constantly under surveilance by Bull Amesys and the "Better Ben Ali then Ben Laden era" of neo colonial domination.

Now tho... Read n weep boyo:
freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2017/tunisia

I'm simply stating facts, if you want me to start quoting passages to prove my point I will gladly do so.

>Just so you stop speaking out of your ass... Here is what the Jerusalem Post has to say about the subject matter
First of all, West Bank is technically not Israel

Second of all, I've lived in Israel, among Arabs, I know for a fact what life is like there. There is full freedom.

>Islam has five pillars. Do them you get into heaven. That is what is in the Koran... Off to drink some lemonade. Keep on trippin boi. Although next time try reading a history book instead.
That's it, huh? Nothing else to see there? Keep lying to yourself buddy.

I'm not even going to start discussing the massive theological problems with what you said. (Getting to heaven by works, just like every other religion in the world except for Christianity)

Enjoy your lemonade, but if you're sick, you should drink camel piss instead. Listen to Dr. Muhammad, he knows best:

"Narrated Anas:Some people from the tribe of 'Ukl came to the Prophet and embraced Islam. The climate of Medina did not suit them, so the Prophet ordered them to go to the (herd of milch) camels of charity and to drink, their milk and urine (as a medicine)."
(Sahih Bukhari 8:82:794)

> grammar grammar

is this the only thing you could come up with? pathetic.

I hate Islam, just pointing out peaceful Muslims are not obeying the quran which suits me.

>Enjoy your lemonade, but if you're sick, you should drink camel piss instead. Listen to Dr. Muhammad, he knows best:
>Citing Bukhari
>Thinking hadith is fact
>Going Ad Hominem when he knows his retarded stormfag cover is blown

Hey at least there is no incest in the Koran. Go fuck your own daughters like Lot to... ahem "keep the race pure" lol. Pretty sure wincest is you gaises beaucoup specialty.

It's not that they obey the quran (it contradicts itself), it's that they obey the doctrines of Islam which means basically the quran with all the least evil parts removed, plus some other nonsense from the hadiths (which are often worse than the quran) thrown in for good measure.

Peaceful because they paid jizya you taqyia adhering slime.

Wish we were offered the option of paying the Jazya instead of you know... THE SPANISH INQUISITION.

NO ONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!!

youtube.com/watch?v=Nf_Y4MbUCLY

>"Islam expanded gradually across the maritime and inland silk routes from the 7th to the 10th centuries through trade and diplomatic exchanges."

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uhmm 7th and 10th is too late since islam expanded in north africa during 6th - 7th.. islam never actually established itself in china... rather a result of contact

and therefore
>Chinese were muslim before North Africa

is simply wrong claim

>Wrong. Born muslim dont tell me what my religion is about.

of course, no one is allowed to criticise your religion while you criticise other religion with passion... its like saying to christians.. your gospels books are only valid... come on

your criticism of christianity is also invalid... how hypocrite of you

hadith is based on life of muhammad and they are supporting books just like the books you quoted deuteronomy, chronicles, and numbers...

>You mean when we were constantly under surveilance by Bull Amesys and the "Better Ben Ali then Ben Laden era" of neo colonial domination.

>on a dictatorship for many years
>better freedom of speech

GJ

>islam is a political weapon

why avoid this

>islam better than other religion
would you like to live in an isis liek environment?

There's 3 kinds of Muslims:

Active: True practitioners of the faith and every word it says.

Passive (Moderate): Believe everything that the Active believe, but do not act on it.

Posterity: Muslims who know nothing of the texts but would never apostate for fear of death.

Peaceful Muslims are under a Schrödinger paradigm. They believe in Islam due to heritage and culture and can become terrorists at any moment.

Under the pressure of their culture they will NOT hesitate to throw you under the bus.

The only peaceful Muslim is a dead Muslim.

behead infidels

there is adifference between christians and muslims

christians changed

muslims ... stagnates... never change

So how do we stop the religion that advocates killing AND stop the religion that advocates slavery?

true burger

these islamic retards are gonna regret if the islamist wins


isis life for everyone if that happens...

>The most authoritative and trustworthy Hadith that all Muslim scholars approve of is fake
>It's fake, because it contains things I don't like
Typical auto-pilot response, what's next, I have to read it in Arabic to reeeeaaaally understand it?

>Hey at least there is no incest in the Koran
Cain killed his brother Abel too, so there's murder mentioned in the Bible! Does that mean God wants you to murder? Lot's daughters sinned, and it is faithfully recorded, because it's the truth of what happened.

You're lucky the Qur'an contains no information about the life of Muhammad, but it does contain these beautiful teachings:

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
(Qur’an 9:29)

(Remember) when your Lord inspired the angels, "Verily, I am with you, so keep firm those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved, so strike them over the necks, and smite over all their fingers and toes."
(Quran 8:12)

But let's look at Muhammad's life now, since you're so bothered by Lot's daughters actions, maybe Muhammad is better. I'll summarize his beautiful acts here:

- Muhammad tried to commit suicide multiple times by jumping from a mountain, was always stopped by Gabriel who calmed him down by saying "You are indeed the prophet of Allah"

- Muhammad married a 6 year old girl, had sex with her at the age of 9

- Muhammad had at one point at least 9 wives, and sex slaves. His wives caught him having sex with the slaves, then he promised to stop, but actually continued anyway. Other Muslims can "only" have 4 wives. Oh and the testimony of 1 man is worth that of 2 women. just for some extra information.

I'm reaching the character limit here, but this should be enough.

The worst part is that ISIS weren't the worst islamic group ever or anything. Theoretically ISIS could have come up with something even worse from going by the teachings of Islam. See the Barbary Coast for example. That wasn't even that long ago. And the Taliban are at least as bad as ISIS.

only religion that currently practice slavery is islam

>The worst part is that ISIS weren't the worst islamic group ever or anything

they praise vishnu buddha and brahma

GJ... ISIS is a wahabbi radical an offshoot of sunni... hence why most of their campaign are against the Shias

its Shia vs Sunni war

Even if they are not muslims, arabs and semites are still obnoxious, loud and filthy. Their are culturally proclive to theft and violence, and try to win arguments by yelling louder and insulting.
Peaceful muslims may not try to kill me, but sure as hell will rape/steal/hurt me and others.

>they praise vishnu buddha and brahma
News to me. Where did you hear that? Shirk is obviously haram and one of ISIS's pet hates. I can't imagine them doing that.

sarcasm

ISIS is a creation of qatar and saudi... read wikileaks

using religion (hadiths and quran) as their basis of converting muslims into radical

be honest islam is full of violence... i read the quran and it talks a lot about muhammads views of others...

e.g. these people offends me therefore i must kill him in name of allah..

example: siege of banu qurayza

i find that barbaric

I didn't say ISIS were good guys, did I. I'm saying they could plausibly have been worse because Islam is literally that fucking bad.