Let's be honest. "Libertarian" is just a publicly acceptable front for "when the Reich comes...

Let's be honest. "Libertarian" is just a publicly acceptable front for "when the Reich comes, I'll get on board" isn't it?

Maybe central/moderate libertarians. If you truly are a fucking libertarian why would you jump onboard with the authoritarian reich. idk. restricting what books can be read or what music can be listened to are hardly libertarian principles, yeah?

Far from it.

Libertarians oppose authority that has any purpose other than protecting their God-given rights. The "Reich" exceeds the limits of that authority. Fascists are better than Commies but not by much.

the only one who i can accept as a authoritarian leader is pinochet.

what a man...

Okay actually I think I've got it.

"Libertarian" is basically "I'm conservative in every single way, but I'm making too much money from the poor chumps of this country to support changing the social order right now".

Or, it can also be a public front for somebody who's actually fashy, but doesn't want to show this in public.

Nah, more like live, let live, and don't fuck with my money or freedom.

Why would you want to let faggots be faggots though? Unless you can profit from them, I guess.

>Unless you can profit from them, I guess.
Congrats, you figured it out.

Being libertarian is just putting the rich on a pedestal and hoping they'll toss you a few bread-crumbs for sucking their dicks.

>profit profit
I think you're confused.

dont provoke me or ill strike reee

Which you can. Marriage licenses, weddings, and housing industries would go up.
Let fags be fags if they aren't hurting people, spreading AIDs knowingly, raping, or causing problems. Who the fuck cares. I don't mind letting them be who they want while I'm free to be who I want to be. That's how the world should be but, everyone is a special snowflake.

more like i am libertarian because i am rich.

>some garbage prattle about evil rich people

Socialist thief detected.

Profit profit? The only part of money I said was don't fuck with my money. As in don't take out huge sums of my hard earned money in taxes for bullshit.

Left-libertarians exist too.

Libertarians are basically social liberals and economic conservatives with anti-authoritarianism.

Think pot growing hippies with shotguns getting gay married and not in favor of government programs.

Here's what it gets confusing

I think most people on Sup Forums are generally libertarian if the culture was homogenous. That is, they think it could work with only white people

The problem is when multiculutralism gets thrown into the mix. So Sup Forums's "fascist" tendencies are moreso "stop demographic suicide" tendencies.

So it's confusing because, if society was all white people, would most people here still say we need authoritarian rule to prevent degeneracy? I think far less people would feel that way.

This is also another problem that multiculturalism represents, its impossible for elections to be about ideas, because its always about different racial groups and whether some groups have too much or too little power.

No. They're a bunch of degenerates who believe in «freedom».

Boy, you're a special kind of stupid.

True. I think this is the only legitimate reason to be a libertarian.

If I can't profit from faggots then they shouldn't exist. They should be sent to electro-convulsion therapy camps.

But they're causing the downfall of our civilisation.

It's all well and good saying "let them do what they want, I'm still free to be who I want to be" - what happens when your son says "dad, I want to be a faggot"? This is why they should be expelled from ordinary society.

Alright, I'll think about that.

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It's either that, or it's the redpill before the redpill of human biodiversity, demographics, and IQ. Once you take those redpills then you understand that an ancap/libertarian society cannot survive because the stupidest of society will congregate to take what you've earned. Emotion is a very powerful manipulative tool, that's why marxism will never truly die...it just goes under ground and pops back up ever 50-75 years.

> Not being petty is so stupid
> I mean come on it's 2017, get petty or be stupid

Must be nice hating life so much. I wish my life was so simple that the things I dwell on are if someone is gay or not.

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>let
What gives you the authority that leads you to think they need your permission?

I think you're absolutely right, "Sup Forums" sees "fascism" as a means to the libertarian utopia end.

While also acknowledging that a true utopia is impossible to attain and foolish to strive for.

Says nu-Sup Forums

Go fap to trap porn and talk about how great the HRE was while refusing to accept the irony of it all.

Well a lot of "libertarians" are falling under the idea of living life as degenerate as they want without government interference, but are in favor of government welfare programs. For example.

>Joe Rogan
>Destiny
>Drew Carey

It's a new form of neo-libertarian-ism. Not true to it's original foundational principles.

Sure is reddit in here.

I didn't quote you.

Pretty sure capitalist swine are doing more harm to humanity's wellbeing than fudge packers.

Ancapia will phisical remove all colectivists, comunists and fascists

Social cooperation is voluntarly or it isn't social.

Social-nationalism is like raping to get pussy.

I actually misread your post. I read "are" not "aren't" so you sounded sarcastic as fuck. I see now that I misspoke. Carry on.

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I always thought it was college-boy code for "I'm really a Republican but I like smoking weed".

Only because they're abandoning traditional values that took us tens of thousands of years to figure out. They simply don't understand anything past the economic redpill if they're true libertarians. They're just further behind on the path user, don't be too hard on them.

Well welfare does help with the roving bandits that the dirt poor will turn into.
Just good sense

I will grant you that libertarianism is idealistic compared to authoritarianism is probably more pragmatic. I wouldnt say it "cannot survive," but I'll say that it likely wouldnt because of the stupidity of most people. With a country small enough, isolated enough, distanced enough from foreign ties and such, it could be done. You need a fairly homogeneous society though which is where a lot of libertarians would disagree with me.. speaking of this, when are we starting Kekistan for real?

You sound like a democrat.

I don't understand why you people put these arguments out there, there are much better arguments to be had that aren't as easily disassembled.

Men have been fucking man butt for our entire human history. It is not ruining our civilization.

I'm way fucking smarter than you too.

Not really, in terms of core philosophical principles.

But you're correct in my case. My whole life is one "born in le wrong generation" meme of it being socially unacceptable to commit mass purges.

Why must societal norms oppress my ability to identify as a warrior for the blood clan? Why I say!

No it wont, if you have people that don't have anything and attempt to steal, and STRONG self-defense laws in place that they will die when trying to steal. Then those people will be forced into attrition and conform to live by the societal standards that they're living in.

Spoken like a boy who has never thrown a punch

No, just as one who's never lost a fight.

Sometimes the thieves will succeed in killing the one they are robbing. More so when they form bandit parties

It used to because of the spreading of STD's, and the fact that sexual promiscuity is a very powerful tool that leads people to animalistic tendencies instead of searching for a higher purpose. That's why Christianity railed against it so hard because they were seeing what it was doing in a physical, and philosophical sense. We could live with gay people in society if we were honest about the depression, and lack of family cohesion that came along with it. We should be doing the same with all sexual promiscuity.

Easy to never lose a fight when you never leave your room. What are you 15?

Would depend on the area that they're ravaging. Garunteed they wouldn't be successful in an area like Texas, but much more so in places like Cali. Which is conservative, and liberal again?

Lol. No. But I love how the defense of the coward is to always assume their own traits on everyone else.

Libertarians are those people that read self-help books, they're reckless optimists that don't understand how humans actually work; allowing a libertarian to "free" society would enable rich-fags to destroy the last vestiges of humanity we have left and destroy the entire planet.

Imagine that movie 'The Purge', that's the type of future you'll have with rich-fags in charge: they'd literally kill anyone of lesser value than themselves and sell your organs to the highest-bidder -- they wouldn't even feel remorse, because statistically libertarians have the highest rates of aspergers of any political party -- a libertarian would do anything for money.

Blue square is best square

The third redpill is that deception is a pseudo-k type strategy that's selected for within r-type environments.

Jesus christ how autistic, just join a fucking MMA gym and spar you fucking faggot, also join a shooting range. You'll be fine.

Sadly I must admit it is for me, yes.

I live in a highly oppressive EU-cucked regime where people snark at the sole idea of free speech and are all unironically antifa fags,
so even being a libertarian is highly dangerous and can cost you your life.

Which is why if Reich ever rises again, I'll drop the shtick, and fly that first helicopter.
Out of spite, and in the name of revenge. I am not afraid of admitting that.

I know it, and they know it people like me exist.
And they are paranoid, and they are afraid.

But why should they be? I'm just a harmless libertarian after all...

Wouldn't hurt a soul, me.

pic related: people I have to deal with irl, every day of my life.

People can live their lives the way they want.
Animalistic tendencies are just as much a part of you as the part that "searches for a higher purpose" whatever the fuck that is.
I don't have a higher purpose. I am alive now and will be dead later and my life is over forever. I'll spend it the way I want.

I believe that a peaceful society full of people who believe in voluntary exchange and association is possible, and, that such a society would necessarily be white. Ultimately, to get to that society, were gonna have to oven a bunch of jews. White people are naturally fairly live and let live libertarian and dont put up with much bullshit unless their indoctrinated to do so.

Another small white town somewhere again elected a dog as mayor. Wow, white people are so productive and peaceful that the need for a state actor is so irrelevant that it can be replaced with a dog. Try that in any negroid or shitskin town.

You know there's an astronomical ammount of guns in cali right?

holy fuck that reeks of hasty generalizations lmao

No Libertarianism is "Leave me the fuck alone you government parasite. I can take care of myself."

What part of "Don't tread on me" do you not understand?

You are not doing libertarianism right. The anarcho spectrum, including antifa and the ancaps, are the closest thing to libertarianism there is.

>Here's what it gets confusing
>I think most people on Sup Forums are generally libertarian if the culture was homogenous. That is, they think it could work with only white people
>The problem is when multiculutralism gets thrown into the mix. So Sup Forums's "fascist" tendencies are moreso "stop demographic suicide" tendencies.
>So it's confusing because, if society was all white people, would most people here still say we need authoritarian rule to prevent degeneracy? I think far less people would feel that way.
>This is also another problem that multiculturalism represents, its impossible for elections to be about ideas, because its always about different racial groups and whether some groups have too much or too little power.

This.

>I know you are but what am I

Great come back blood warrior. You've never lost a fight because you've never squared up to someone.

Yes now fuck off from England you shitskin parasite.

In that world, if a group of people banded together and established rules for how every member had to live, restricting their freedom, that group would come to dominate the society.

>assuming I'm not doing this already

Why train so hard if there's chance to use one's training. I'm honestly considering moving out to south africa in case SHTF there soon.

You'll still be making memes on how to pretend a free market is the only thing worth anything regardless of the people in it I'd wager.

No, at least not in my case. For me it's more along the lines of "authoritarians you had better fuck off."

Libertarianism is a gateway drug, because you realize only whites are moral and intelligent enough to make it work.

>But they're causing the downfall of our civilisation.
No, Leftists using the power of the state are causing the downfall of our civilization, and they do it using these fringe minority groups. Every minority group has their hands out for some extra bit of authority from the state to support them, so the bureacracy grows and grows. Since Leftists are mostly talentless rent-seeking parasites, they thrive in bureacracy (see also: university administration).

If leftists weren't gaining political power from their minority protection racket, they would have nothing to gain from faggots and we would have the endless pro-faggotry propoganda from the Left. If faggots weren't allying with Leftists to undermine constitutional rights, they wouldn't be a threat to our civilization.

Long term protection against Leftist decline is constructionist constitutionalism.

It's more "Leave me alone and stop wasting the money we give you."

Kekistan wouldn't be allowed to succeed and it's a stupid name. Anyway I agree the best nation that I can think of is a sort of ethno-nationalist libertarian society, with a direction to go, and it would be the government would.

>Advance it's race first
>Advance it's nation second
>Live under Christian principles in a non-dogmatic way similar to what JBP preaches.

Core foundation principles of the nation, and once the government would break those oaths it would become invalid. Something almost tangible, so easily understood instead of manipulating "muh rights" into the socialistic push you see in the West now.

>government forcing me under the poverty ling by taking 30% of my income
>STOP KISSING UP TO RICH PEOPLE SHITLORD RAISE TAXES FAIR SHARE NOW.

Of course, a smelly Yuropoor wouldn't even understand the concept of why people have fought and died for it. You overthrew a fascist and then got a commie EU government, good job, useless dagos.

>"Sup Forums" sees "fascism" as a means to the libertarian utopia end
It's the other way around

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Do you think the shit isn't going to hit the fan here? 100 trillion in debt when including unfunded liabilities, and the most rocky beginning to a presidency probably in history. The Left was sooooo close to securing permanent power in this country, they're not just going to go into the night. Quit being so fucking autistic, train, and prepare fag.

>If the leftists didn't give a shit about people we don't give a shit about they wouldn't have this power
So you're saying that leftists are more empathetic and that conservatives are rejecting a power base? Makes you look pretty stupid.
>playing chess
>stop using your knights that's degenerate reeeeeeeeeeeee

>non-aggression principle=receptive to fascism

Yeah, okay know-nothing limey

There won't be a Reich.
Us Libertarians are the ones with all the weapons, not you nazitards.

Yea, and a bunch of cucks that wont use them...at least the law abiding citizens. Yes I'm referring to the population centers, not the rural areas.

>be honest
Be honest. BE HONEST.

BE FUCKING. GOD. FUCK. GOD IS DEAD. IT'S TIME TO BE HONEST.


FUCKING JUST. BRUH. BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF. HONESTY IS THE BEST MEDICINE FOR LIBERTARIANS. LOL COMMUNISM, AMIRITE?

JUST

UUURRRRGHHHHHHH

BE.

FUCKING.

HONEST.

The libertarians in places like Michigan where there are a lot of unemployed factory workers might start hating the unemployed factory workers if the taxes go up in order to support the unemployed.

>government is bad, we don't support government programs and taxes.

VS

>Give us aid, Trump, interfere with the market and revive coal and factory jobs. MORE GOVERNMENT!

Yeah, I get why libertarianism has dropped in popularity in Sup Forums. A neo-liberal social-liberal philosophy in a board of reactionary protectionist pseudo-tradionionalists.

How do faggots undermine your constitutional rights?

In a way that's too true.

Well you should have no problem if you want to be a bandit then.

National socialism is still socialism.

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Living a hedonistic lifestyle is not deferral of gratification, it's doing nothing more then seeking confirmation bias, and things that feel good in the moment. Well if everyone lived that way then no one would seek deeper truths, and therefore there would be no free market because giving money to poor people from the most successful in society would feel good. That ties into a bunch of different things, but understanding there are difficult truths in life and once you grapple with those and realize what power knowledge can give, you get past that hedonistic mindset and achieve more happiness. Same principle as drug abuse. I'm not saying being homosexual should be outlawed, I'm saying that being honest about the drawbacks of sexual promiscuity should be taught in schools for instance. Not abstinence, but the idea the more sexual partners you have your chance of depression, and not finding a partner increases for instance.

We're never gonna be a "libertarian nation." At best libertarian will represent one half of the political zeitgeist in the two party system. And I think that is highly preferable to Paul Ryan politics. Libertarian = conservative with actual fucking principles. I don't subscribe to this trendy traditionalist conservative shit on Sup Forums, I'm like 85% libertarian, and 15% "mitigate the downsides of capitalism."

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No, it's more

>Leave my shit alone.

And typically people that aren't dependent on others are conservative. So, it's

>Leave my shit alone. I'll vote conservative because at least conservatives won't steal from me as much.

Yeah, maybe. But I don't see it happening fast enough. Honestly, Trump's more stabilizing than at least half of Sup Forums thinks he is, and the only chance of actual true shtf for the US is if he gets assassinated. Leftists know this I think on a primal level and won't actually dare do it.

I give Trump 4 years at least. They won't even attempt anything drastic unless he gets to a 2nd term.

South Africa though? They're likely to go off within a year or two.

>Reich

Depends on what you mean by Reich, and depends on the libertarian view in question.

OMG, I

>welfare
>libertarianism
REEEEE GET OUT OF MY IDEOLOGY SOCIALIST KEKS

Libertarians are employed productive members of society who own their own shit. Fascists are failures who wish they owned shit and want big government to give it to them.

But everyone will not live this way. People have immensely varied motivations and personalities. Not everyone is a hedonist and you're free to pursue your nebulous "deep truths" to your hearts content.
Do not presume that you have any authority to discrete my life at all.

Your assertions of depression and diminishing couple pairing is undoubtably based on one of several deeply flawed image macros floating around. Keep your puritanical vestiges to yourself and out of education.