Redpill me on facism Sup Forums

Redpill me on facism Sup Forums
Is it the boogeyman ideology the Left makes it out to be? I constantly get called facist by the left because all of my views align with facism but I can never get them to understand why it works and why its the ultimate ideology.

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If you're looking for fascism, Hitler isn't the direction you want to go. You want to go to Mussolini

Why's that?

...cause Hitler wasn't a fascist

I thought national socialism was a less radical form of facism?

Facism: An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
Hitler was a definition facist

Did you just watch this?

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>a less radical form of Fascism*
Hence, its not Fascism its National Socialism.

Nope but I did find the same picture on google images

But is socialism not communism?

Fascism doesnt have anything to do with left or right, it just means forced.

Well the first thing you need to understand is NatSoc is left wing.
The second thing you need to understand is:
Socialism is not communism

The third thing you need to know is Hitler Did Nothing Wrong

Facism is always economically right though otherwise it would be communism

Socialism, Communism, Fascism steams out of Liberalism.

But depending on where you are from, political spectrums change

>facism stems from liberalism
What are you smoking? Facism is the exact opposite of liberalism

Stalinist communism was fascist

Speak in terms of bettering the people. Observe what sticks to people while at the same time being integral to your values. Name solutions that Fascism provides to the common man, like job availability, the harmony between worker and employer, and freedom.

I also suggest Oswald Mosley. He's practically the most poignant of all fascists.
Hitler was a Fascist, but assumed more power than the Fascist doctrine requires; overriding whatever principle at times. National Socialism was more racialist in its terms, and less meritocratic.

Not sure what Facism is

"right wing" "socialist"

Well, Hitler didn't kill nearly as many people as Stalin did, so he looks pretty decent in that regard.

>googles definition of fascism
Sort yourselves out. Fascism wont work

Don't watch this shit. Watch Cultured Thug or Marshal Ironsides, two fascists I stumbled across YouTube. A rare thing really. Didn't know a Fascist could have a platform on YouTube.

>NatSoc is left wing.

What would you guys say is the most nationalistic right wing ideology?

At certain times he had to assume more power than needed, but he became the more economically powerful leader in Europe. They were a thriving rich country, thus eliminating any fascism/communism

Dont be a slave to ideology.

Fascism can be both right and left wing.

Literally Fascism. Maybe National Syndicalism, feudalism, monarchy, and national libertarianism.
What is Francoist Spain?

>Tripfag nuke gook
Opinion discarded

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Not an argument

I would agree it was needed at times, but I would he blundered with some.
>thus eliminating any fascism/communism
I get communism, but how did National Socialism eliminate fascism?
Essentially, like Strasserism and National Syndicalism I think.

It's the only system that puts the needs of the people, nation, culture at the center, while still making economic sense, and understanding that issues like race and tradition matter.

A system similar to it is the only thing that will save the West at this point.

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>how did National Socialism eliminate fascism?
I meant eliminating any argument for

Mussolini is the only fascist dictator in modern history, the rest have either been socialist or communist

>Fascism steams out of Liberalism
A. Fucking. Leaf.

Don't get your jollies in a bunch

There is no standardized definition of Fascism, but Hitler and the National Socialists as well as the Italian Fascists strove for a spiritual, ethno-cultural ("völkisch" in German, look it up) national rebirth. Authoritarian and traditionalistic. That's the definition of Fascism that I prefer.

>Is it the boogeyman ideology
Depends on who you are...

What about Franco, António de Oliveira Salazar, and Dolfuss?

But he wasn't a fascist. He had authoritarian power at times, like kicking out the bankers. He was authoritarian in more positive ways than Mussolini's starving his people to death

fascism is just the intolerance of other views/ life styles / cultures. the left are modern fascist. the hate white people, any cultural event / contribution done by white people and specifically they refuse to even acknowledge that conservative white males should be allowed to exist

substitute cis white male for any mention of jew in any hitler speech and its any liberal on any college campus in america

You're going to have to give me a quick rundown.
For the time being I'll retract my past statement regarding such

>Facism = intolerance
Clearly you've been taking your dose of bluepills.

Judaism is just the intolerance of other views/ life styles / cultures. the left are modern Jews. They hate white people, any cultural event / contribution done by white people and specifically they refuse to even acknowledge that conservative white males should be allowed to exist

Substitute cis white male for any mention of whites or goyim in any Jewish speech and it's any liberal on any college campus in america

Is it just me or is this video full of her making the "ew this is bad and you should feel bad" face?
I'd hate to say that the SJWs have a point when it comes to micro expressions but... yeah we're conditioned to hate talking about fascism, to assume that it's bad because of how we feel, and to pass this uncomfortable feeling to other people.

>The perfect bump

I don't know man, I never watched it. I just noticed it had the same flag as OPs picture

>yeah we're conditioned to hate talking about fascism, to assume that it's bad because of how we feel, and to pass this uncomfortable feeling to other people.
Look up De-Nazification

You're thinking of authoritarianism which isn't inherently fascist. Fascism is right wing because it appeals to many conservative values, it never appeals to leftist values.

Fascism at its core is the use of absolutely whatever means necessary to strengthen the state, the people and the nation as a whole. The Roman republic for example behaved like a fascist state, but they weren't completely on board with the idea of authoritarianism, they didn't want an absolute dictator. Then when Octavian came around, Romans started to believe in the concept of a benevolent dictator. Levels of authoritarianism change in both left and right wing countries, but the overall political philosophy of the nation in question is what determines whether they are left or right wing.

>Franco
Fascist leader of Spain. Was a bit of a monarchist, but generally Fascist. Was leader until sometime in the 70s.
>Salazar
Portuguese Catholic Corporatist. Saw a bottom-up type of system, but still arguably fascist.
>Dolfuss
Austrian Fascist that suck close to the Catholic Church. Was assassinated by Hitler before assuming control of Austria.

Godspeed leaf

You'd have to define "fascists" first. The news sure doesn't.

IMO, I can't give you my opinion because I haven't researched enough about them. Also IMO, all those countries still exist?

Wasn't denazification just the removal of nazi symbols/people/mentioning?

What do you call a typical american's instinct to cringe at the mention of / not be able to say the word "nazi" above a whisper out of some sort of inexplicable shame?

Conditioning.

The next step: learning how they do this, and using this tactic.

De-Nazification was marching the Germans through the camps where dead bodies n shit were piled up blaming the Nazis for something they didn't do

"This is what your leader was doing without you knowing, he wasn't the man he seemed to be" type of thing

Keep it simple stupid.

Does Portugal, Austria, and Spain exist or the fascist governments; which one do you mean? I'm going with the latter, and saying no. There aren't Fascist governments around today.

There has never been a civilization that has not taxed.
A nation that doesn't tax the people at all would just be a bunch of guys sitting around a table. Or charity.

I just have nothing to say about irrelevant countries. I will give Franco the honor of not jumping into the war though

On a semi-unrelated note, does anyone know where to find research done during the third reich?

You will find mostly propaganda. You will want to look into General Patton as a start

>Is it the boogeyman ideology the Left makes it out to be?
Its a different boogieman.
Fascism is pretty much elitist authoritarianism, its all about toal control over population and every aspect of individual life by the state.

The closed thing to actual fascism is probably modern Russia, and guess what it isnt one bit fun.

woah you guys reached peak retardation and are advocating for a system that'd have you all put down like dogs..

wow, thanks for the input Ontario

dunno if you were trying to be funny but im not in ontario and im not a leaf

I'm of the belief that our reality is wholly subject to our perception and in order to pursue happiness to the best of our abilities it's very important for every person to have inherent rights that allow them to do so. From a law and order standpoint fascism makes sense but from the doctrine of popular sovereignty it doesn't necessarily provide the greatest good for the greatest number of people. While the leader is elected by the people they are also human and subject to the same vested interests outside of the well-being of the governed, and so having some sort of limitation on their reach seems necessary to provide for the public.

Your flag says otherwise.
You've definitely got the input of Ontario

shut up you fucking leaf

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You forget about the corporatist system. Which is the cooperation of the state and the various corporations (unions of employers and workers of a specific field) to discuss the management of the economy and living.

Fascism isn't a single dictator ruling over all the state.

Leaf, I'm not a faggot.

Day of the rake: postponed

This is one based leaf. Makes me proud.

The ultimate redpill is that no system of government works when greedy Jews or minorities are allowed to fuck it up. They are mentally ill subhumans. So far, socialism is the best thing that we can get as long as we have a good leader that actually cares about the people. You need a homogeneous population and a large army. Get your people to multiply and take over the world. If we can get to that point, we can colonize other planets and fulfill the destiny of the human race by exploring the stars endlessly, making greater and greater scientific advancements until we become just like the gods we prayed to in the days of old. This is what we're meant to do, and niggers and kikes stand in our way. This is why they must be purged.

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Modern day Russia is exactly an oligarchy it doesn't have a fascist aspect.

>Modern day Russia is an oligarchy. It's not fascist at all.
Come on Bulgaria. I can forgive the grammar but, proper punctuation goes a long way towards making your English readable.

Because Fascism is Italian. The Germans practiced National Socialism you dense fucknugget.

So what you are saying is that gassing the kikes is the less radical idea? :3