Gather around patriotic liberals. There’s no way liberals can counter these voters’ blind faith in a huckster who’s sold them this snake oil. The notion that they can be won over by some sort of new New Deal — “domestic programs that would benefit everyone (like national health insurance),” as Mark Lilla puts it — is wishful thinking. These voters are so adamantly opposed to government programs that in some cases they refuse to accept the fact that aid they already receive comes from Washington — witness the “Keep Government Out of My Medicare!” placards at the early tea-party protests.
Perhaps it’s a smarter idea to just let the GOP own these intractable voters. Liberals looking for a way to empathize with conservatives should endorse the core conservative belief in the importance of personal responsibility. Let Trump’s white working-class base take responsibility for its own votes — or in some cases failure to vote — and live with the election’s consequences. If, as polls tell us, many voters who vilify Obamacare haven’t yet figured out that it’s another name for the Affordable Care Act that’s benefiting them — or if they do know and still want the Trump alternative — then let them reap the consequences for voting against their own interests. That they will sabotage other needy Americans along with them is unavoidable in any case now — at least until voters stage an intervention in an election to come.
Trump voters should also be reminded that the elite of the party they’ve put in power is as dismissive of them as Democratic elites can be condescending. “Forget your cheap theatrical Bruce Springsteen crap,” Kevin Williamson wrote of the white working class in National Review. “The truth about these dysfunctional, downscale communities is that they deserve to die. Economically, they are negative assets. Morally, they are indefensible.” He was only saying in public what other Republicans like Mitt Romney say about the “47 percent” in private when they think only well-heeled donors are listening. Besides, if National Review says that their towns deserve to die, who are Democrats to stand in the way of Trump voters who used their ballots to commit assisted suicide?
So hold the empathy and hold on to the anger. If Trump delivers on his promises to the “poorly educated” despite all indications to the contrary, then good for them. Once again, all the Trump naysayers will be proved wrong. But if his administration crashes into an iceberg, leaving his base trapped in America’s steerage with no lifeboats, those who survive may at last be ready to burst out of their own bubble and listen to an alternative. Or not: Maybe, like Hochschild’s new friends in Louisiana’s oil country, they’ll keep voting against their own interests until the industrial poisons left unregulated by their favored politicians finish them off altogether. Either way, the best course for Democrats may be to respect their right to choose."
I will dispatch of you and your entire lineage within the next 10 years..the day of rope is coming
Henry Diaz
>Love Trumps Hate This looks like a Pro-Trump ad >I love Trump's hate for X or >Love Trumps Hate, so vote Trump! Pro-Tip: Don't include your opponent's name in you ads.
Justin Baker
Ahh its nice to see just a little bit of the true colors of liberals.
Elijah Perez
Hillary paid billions and never got straight forward advice like this.....fuck man
James Reed
>LIBERALS ONLY FUCK YOU CONSERVATIVEPHOBIA
Grayson Hill
Anyone has the edit with a fence behind Captain America?
Isaac Cooper
Why do white Democrats vote against their own racial interests?
Ryan Phillips
>love Trump's hate
I always read this has a bizarre pro-Trump sligan.
Also Captain America isn't a leftist commie who punches people based on their opinions
Gavin Collins
>patriotic >liberal Pick one.
Samuel Ross
Orly?
Christian Cox
Where is OBAMALEAF?
Levi Davis
>patriotic liberals >patriotic >liberals
choose one.
Dominic Cruz
This thread is lacking spiciness. I'll help with some sage
Grayson Rogers
That was as far as I got until TL(iberal)DR
Christian Clark
If you're a troll, good job, you probably made someone butthurt. If you're not, you can fuck right off. You are not a iberal, you are a progressive.
Jack Bennett
lol get out nigger
Jacob Gray
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Cameron Bennett
Thanks famalam.
Robert Harris
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Bentley Cox
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Ethan Lopez
Interesting. What exactly is the difference?
Andrew Scott
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Aiden Richardson
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Logan Green
mein fuhrer
Camden James
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Jace Moore
> OP spent a considerable amount of time making this thread
Jack Hill
DONALD DUCKS HIS TAXES
Carson Allen
>Patriotic liberals Sounds like Anarcho-Syndicalism. Good luck commies!
Wyatt Ward
>patriotic liberals
Doesn't exist you people want to destroy American and everything we stand for
Dylan Sanchez
>Pictured: Captain America telling marxists and mudshits to GTFO out of his country
Connor Gonzalez
I don't understand how ANYONE could be against state subsidized Sex Reassignment Surgery. it's barbaric to withhold it from someone who needs it to live.
What if she wants to be a boy? Not a girl? Are you seriously going to tell her no? To her face?
Aaron White
Everything Trump's done so far (budget, tax cuts, health care) has been a fucking disaster for most of his voter base, anyone who's poor basically.
He's gutted the budgets for health care research, the NIH has been fucked, sucked money out of climate change research and prevention, which even James 'Mad dog' knows is a fucking serious deal, and pumped the savings into the military to "fight ISIS".
I wonder how many people will die because of the money Trumps diverted away from healthcare, healthcare research, and climate change prevention and research? Ironically, Trump's damaging America more than ISIS could ever dream of.
Fair, but you can't call the rusting, jobless wasteland that used to be America's industrial base a good example of American prosperity.
Thomas Long
I'm glad Sup Forums finally has a simp containment thread
Gabriel Sanchez
White trash aren't the ones that will perish on droves. That is reserved for useless shitskins and lazy leftists who are all too retarded to obtain health insurance.
Brody Powell
When is black lives matter going to snipe trump?
Also how good is Bernie going to be in 2020?
Brandon Foster
Here is is his new ad campaign. Looks pretty nifty.
Christian Watson
Trump's healthcare plan is a disaster for any slightly aged, regardless of race.
Older people are fucked under Trump's plan. Especially older people living in rural areas. Flat subsidies mean the high premiums in rural areas are going to fuck them the hardest.
Trump's piss-weak version of the affordable care act is going to take lives, friendo.
Juan Flores
I fear nothing all is as kek wills it
Cameron Price
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Thomas Lopez
Commies detected. And I'm from Russia, I lived under commies for far too long, so I sense them like a bat senses its way in the night.
Don't call yourself patriots, faggots. Your place in history is the big garbage bin where right-wingers like me will put you during XXI century.
Justin Long
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Nathan Davis
I didn't read a single thing you said, but is OP's pic legit?
Leo Sullivan
Then go to reddit and stop trying to invade are website? Or is that too much to ask for?
Christian Richardson
>Also how good is Bernie going to be in 2020
No better than 2016. Which isn't terrible, Bernie did well given the circumstances. I think a lot of liberals have this fantasy that when Trump fucks up horribly all of the desperate people who voted for him are going to punish him in the 2020 polls and some how wake up to socialism.
This definitely won't happen, people in general are far too proud to admit they're wrong, even to themselves. That and Trump supporters will come up with an epic ratking of conspiracy theories to explain away all of his failures. "It was the jews that did it!!!" "soros strikes again!"
William Long
Fake Americans thread
Joshua Morris
OP's pic is pretty lame dude.
Kevin Johnson
This Russ bro is right! You call yourself patriots yet allow mass immigration and forcing others to pay taxes to give hand outs to fat lazy 3rd world niggers. You attempt to take away our right to keep in bear arms every moment you breathe. Also you have attempted to shove marxist idelologies and destroy or Greco-Roman traditions in the western world. You are not helping the west you are destroying the west. By the way Mohamed fucked a 9 year old girl and killed people mercilessly.
Easton Miller
Nasty !
Jack Price
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Christian Hernandez
>then let them reap the consequences for voting against their own interests. That they will sabotage other needy Americans
Nice try — you put the act of theft from those working people to the gain of «needy poor people» as something good, while calling those who want to get things back to normal way (when you can't rob other people's pockets with the power of government), those people who defend private property and other basic foundations and values of truly American way of thinking and living, as som kind of vile people.
You won't fool people again with your jewish propaganda.
Parker Nelson
lmao
Jack Fisher
Nyet
David Bell
Ayyyyy!!!
Jayden Peterson
>liberals only
Eli Garcia
>patriotic >liberal
Choose one.
Connor Scott
You're making to much sense on this thread. Why do you choose to wallow in Sup Forums's cancerous threads?
Brody Mitchell
Omg fuck drumpf and fuck white people!!! Ok honney?
Robert Wright
fuck you liberal faggot
Jaxson Baker
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Tyler Walker
>leftists
kek.
Landon Bell
GET OUT YOU NORMIE FAGS
Josiah Phillips
>you put the act of theft from those working people to the gain of «needy poor people» as something good
But user, having some sort of welfare state actually saves money in the long run when you consider having a healthy and supported population. And where do you draw the line? Do you just not tax the rich and wealthy -at all- because it's theft? Inequality would grow into feudalism, I don't know whether you want that.
Easton Ward
Artist decided to put captain america's shield upside down
subtle satanist hints or dumb liberal?
in any case im fucking bored
Jaxon Miller
anarcho-monarchist reporting in
Dominic Martinez
>patriotic liberals
Bentley Kelly
thank you captain america for blocking the subhumans from coming here.
Evan Martin
Believe whatever you want. The the fucks running cities are begging us to return and going as far as exporting gangs into our suburbs to get us to move back. The dindus can't create a sustainable tax base and the kike from national review wouldn't know a thing about wealth production as his paper never earned a cent of profit.
Adam Robinson
Subtle.
Benjamin Sanders
this. I really want to move back to my rural hometown if I win the lottery it is what I will do. When you live in the city. You deal with both spics and niggers you will want to move back.
Adrian Perez
>The the fucks running cities are begging us to return and going as far as exporting gangs into our suburbs to get us to move back. That's just not true, in fact the opposite is occurring. Gentrification of cities, especially inner-city areas, is widely observed phenomenon in the western world at the moment. You should know this.
>the kike from national review wouldn't know a thing about wealth production as his paper never earned a cent of profit Good joke.
I thought it was an accepted fact, even on here, that the Rs are openly disdainful of poor people, even poor white people, see OP for examples. See R tax cuts for the rich and cuts to welfare spending for more examples. When Trump "drained the swamp" (lol) he was referring to the establishment in Washington that includes the R party. Trump supporters were glad he was clearing out the old R establishment.
Aaron Jones
>white captain america OMG so many things wrong with this, first are you implying that a man has to lead America, why not a strong woman? Why isn't he person of color or another ethic minority like mexican or asian? Why doesn't it clearly make it appear that he is trans or better yet gender neutral.? Finally why is he a captain, the military has no place at the forefront of american immigration policy or politics in general.
You people make me sick. Check your privilege.
Cameron Morales
Please give us all a coherent explanation as to how welfare is useful at combating poverty, instead of becoming a poverty trap by giving poor just enough to survive and then capping the amount they can work before losing benefits.
Carter Flores
The dnc needs to support Bernie. Bernie would have shit in trump this election.
I.Wonder how hard it will be to explain to retarded redneck trumples that socialism its different than communism
Luke Reyes
Because the rich don't give a crap if poor whites go extinct. The elite whites will continue to exist at the top like they do in south america
Lincoln Young
>how welfare is useful at combating poverty, instead of becoming a poverty trap by giving poor just enough to survive and then capping the amount they can work before losing benefits.
Well running a hard cap is dumb, that shit's an efficient poverty trap, you need different bands of welfare depending on how much the recipient is earning. Earn 10k per year and get 5k in welfare, earn 20k and get 3k in welfare, and so on.
Free or at the very least subsidised healthcare combats poverty, you can count that as a form of welfare. It stops people from landing in poverty via exorbitant bills and stops people from getting trapped in debt to pay off bills.
Some people can't afford transport to and from work or a place of education where they can pick up the skills to work. Welfare fights off poverty here.
You've also got to think of the knock on effects on generations of people, once one generation of a family has lifted itself from poverty it's far less likely the next generation will find themselves in it.
Welfare itself does not reduce poverty, but it can help people help themselves out of poverty.
Julian Williams
>Because the rich don't give a crap if poor whites go extinct Yup, race doesn't really come into it when it comes to the gulf between the rich and the poor. Wealth is the biggest divider, not race.
Adrian Kelly
>Liberal Only Thread >On 4-Chan
Parker King
Liberals are the disgusting enemy of America. Please move to any other country that supports your fascist, regressive, racist garbage-we will no longer tolerate your treason here.
John Powell
HOW ABOUT YOU TAKE YOUR CANCER TO TUMBLR
Ian Cooper
Sup Forums was pretty liberal back in the day about 8+ years ago. The original incarnation of this board was just libertarians vs marxists.
gtfo newfag
Jackson Morris
Your mothers should have smothered all of you libs in the cradle.
