Communism General

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/
archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/communism general/type/op/
momentum.org/archive/corbyn/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
momentum.org/archive/corbyn/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
momentum.org/reference/archive/blairitescum/works/1938/09.htm
momentum.org/archive/corbyn/works/sw/
momentum.org/archive/watson/works/sw/
momentum.org/reference/archive/mccdonell/works/decades-index.htm
momentum.org/reference/archive/benn/selected-works/
momentum.org/archive/skinner/works/1884/origin-family/
momentum.org/archive/foot/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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hello

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Have you guys figured out how to establish free market communism yet?

have a bump good people.

tricking pol into believing that capitalism and or fascism are the red (notice anything) pill was piggys greatest coon.

I'm going to make you my cumdump, slut.

>commies can't explain what they advocate for
>the ideal society, according to them, ranges anywhere from an orwellian superstate, to total anarchy, or FREE MARKET COMMUNISM.
When will you people realize that your are just nihilistic little worms that failed to learn how to define truth? You have no objective principles nor morals. When will you realize that you are just fantasizing, and that said fantasy is not real?

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i want reddit and leftiepol to go back

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

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Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

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mods pls

>autistic faggot unironically supporting muh communism in 21st century

Fire up the helicopters

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le epik XDD!!

>agree to work for an employer
>employer pays for the facilities, tools, raw materials and utility costs required for you to work
>employer pays you an amount of monetary compensation for your labour that you agree to before starting work
>communists think the finished product belongs to you even though the only thing you provided during the whole process was your labour, and even then you were compensated for it

How do communists justify this?

A communist economic system would be characterized by advanced productive technology that enables material abundance, which in turn would enable the free distribution of most or all economic output and the holding of the means of producing this output in common. In this respect communism is differentiated from socialism, which, out of economic necessity, restricts access to articles of consumption and services based on one's contribution.

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My cock is throbbing right now. You better post your bp you cumdump.

Wasn't Tito's Yugoslavia the only communist country that even halfway worked and didn't starve a zillion people?

Daily reminder, anons, the Spaincuck and his butt buddies have their own discord to coordinate their spam.
Make sure to ask them what they do for a living! Ask them if they are NEETs, and see them magically evade the question!
Let's lead the workers revolution from my mother's basement on her alimony money, comrades!

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From 1948 to 1980 it worked very well. After 1980 a few cracks appeared. However, famine didn't happen in the Eastern Bloc after the 1940s as far as I know.

Ok enough with this small talk. We're just wasting both our time acting like we are enjoying this. I can't hold it in any longer. I started off by declothing you in my mind, then we proceeded to kissing slowly moving down to each other's private areas. You were getting pretty heated at this point I don't know if you were thinking straight but you told me to hog tie you to the bed and punish you and you also said to grab the army men out of the game closet, needless to say I obliged. This is where it got a little weird. I asked you where you wanted it and you said," Blow in my belly button, trudge through it with the army men and act out the D-day invasion." Now I'm sitting here with my penis in hand curious to what that might be like. So if you're down to put our own spin on this momentous historical event I can swing by Toys"R"Us on the way over. Are we going to pound this thing out or are you going to let my Womb Warriors die another meaningless death at the hands of my fap sock?

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See this:

archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/communism general/type/op/

Over 300 Commie generals have been made by the same poster, 3+ times a day on most days, and a total of around 600 total made by 5 posters (a Spaniard, an American, a Netherlander, a Canadian,a Portuguese)

Tito was at least smart enough to be willing to work with western powers and not get involved in the Cold War for the most part.

Tell me where communism has worked?

It's going great in North Korea.

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Communism hasn't existed yet, it is the future. It is paradise on Earth and beyond.

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Silly user. Who needs roads if nobody owns cars?

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fuck this shit its HELICOPTER RIDES TIME
>go to Commies . BTFO
>start up your helicopter
>post results

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>muh why work when the state can do it for me
And this ladies and gentlemen is why we are poor.

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You better be posting that bp right now, slut. Teasing will get you nowhere.

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Not to sound like a commie but Juche really isn't communism. Just read the wikipedia article for it. Kim Il Sung basically made Korean National Socialism. If anything that makes Kim Il Sung pretty clever for exploiting the Soviet Union to create such a society.

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Hello Momentum lads. This general is for the discussion of Momentum-Corbynism, the ideology of revolutionary islam worship and destroying israel.

Momentum is the next stage of humanity following the conservative stage.

What exactly is Momentum according to Corbynistas and Momentum lads:

>Momentum is a stage of society in which the railways is owned by Corbyn, and Britain pays reparations until it is bankrupt for its colonial injustices
>Momentum in it's full form is a pakistani class society that follows the maxim "Fuck Britain and Fuck White people."
>To achieve such a society Corbynism teaches us that we must replace the Blairite state, which is controlled by the Blairite class, by a Momentum state, which is controlled by the Corbynista class. Then, a period of party struggle follows in which the Blairite class is guillotined by the Corbynista class. When the Blairite class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the Pakistani class, and eventually the functions of supreme leader Corbyn's state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the Islamic society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Tom Watson said.
momentum.org/archive/corbyn/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
momentum.org/archive/corbyn/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

Corbynistas uses a philosophy called "fuck the blairites", see here:
momentum.org/reference/archive/blairitescum/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Corbynism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
momentum.org/archive/corbyn/works/sw/
momentum.org/archive/watson/works/sw/
momentum.org/reference/archive/mccdonell/works/decades-index.htm
momentum.org/reference/archive/benn/selected-works/
momentum.org/archive/skinner/works/1884/origin-family/
momentum.org/archive/foot/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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lmao i like this one

>BUT BRAH, IT WASN'T REAL COMMUNISM

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I'm glad there's at least one person who keeps posting this. I try my best but I can't do it all the time.

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>bait and switch thumbnail memeposting

cmon, that is barely meta.
Get with the times

Kek

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delete your ideology

Have any of you read the capital? Or for example the dialectic of Hegel?

>Hegel

Whats wrong ?

This is an 18+ board and everyone was 16 at some point. Also, Hegelian dialectic =/= dialectical materialism, dialectical materialism is NOT MARXIST, it was made in the 60s by Soviet propagandists to justify the Soviet state as an alternative to American capitalism

Soviet Union collapsed.

If you can't understand Hegelian dialectic, you can't understand a Communism.
>This is an 18+ board and everyone was 16 at some point.
What is that mean?

communism doesn't fucking work you dumbass
look at all the past and present attempts and look how shitty they are

clearly there's something wrong there

I think you are confused comrade, what have existed is socialist states with a communist party

Do you actively involve yourself in left wing groups outside?

I'm calling you an underage faggot.
Hegelian dialectics says a thesis must be followed by an antithesis to become a synthesis.
The logical flaw here is to assume that only communism and capitalism are the only two economic solutions. The exact thing that soviet propagandists exploited to create the impression of the soviets as a bulwark against capitalism.
Also Hegelian dialectics is a philosophy on debates, not on fucking economics, and is basically Ying Yang theory.
What I'm trying to say is that commies are easily impressed and are largely fucking stupid and manipulated by big words, truisms and platitudes.

He doesn't go outside. He's a NEET. Ask him if he's a NEET. He won't respond.

Good evening commies, I have a simple question for you. Why is no major country communist? It would make sense since it's so great right?

>communism only works on paper

Fuck that tbx it doesn't even work in theory. Not all men are born equal and you don't have the right to tell me what the fuck to do with my property just because we are from le working class xD pls giv redit gold :DD

why do you even keep making this thread? you post the same 30 memes for the first posts then everyone comes in and tells you why you're retarded. your raids aren't working, /leftypol/.
pic related, it's me laughing at you.

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>I'm calling you an underage faggot.
Seems triggered.

>tfw the working class rises up in rebellion of socialism

Just pointing out an inconvenient fact. Nice try dodging the argument though. You actually thought Hegelian dialectic = Dialectical materialism. That's going in my "dumb commie" folder.
Underage faggot.

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You haven't refuted his point.

I don't like a commi, why i must defend this shit?
>Underage faggot.
Still seems triggered.

We have better prepubescent girls

saw u asking this in that other thread a few hours ago; he didn't respond as well, i guess you're right, he's an absolute fucking disgrace to his community
communist or not, top faggot for sure

Are you the Russian who doesn't understand English properly? Because I seem to recall talking to you before.
DO you always feign misunderstanding to escape the argument, faggot? If you don't know shit, then why the fuck do you think you can "illuminate" us with your retarded shit?
This is an 18+ board, come back when you grow out of communism like every other 14 year old

You have to appreciate the grand irony of an armchair communist leading the workers revolution from his mother's basement while mooching off her third husband's alimony money. Literally gulag material.

I'm saving this for every thread he makes from now on.

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so... anarchism?

Godamn i want to kill you commie shits

>This is an 18+ board, come back when you grow out of communism like every other 14 year old
I've noticed something as I've gotten into deeper conversations with communists. They're literally sociopathic. I'm serious, they are some of the most awful, least empathetic, most selfish people I have ever met. Most of them don't work, all of them hate concepts like free speech and freedom of association, and they absolutely despise traditional morality and the nuclear family.

I think this comes from one of two things. Either they are genuinely evil and narcissistic people, or they are going through their rebellious teenage phase.

Not on my watch

piss off

>communism I'd the next stage of humanity
Communism has already failed fuckhead, why not something new?