Why can't women be trusted?

Why can't women be trusted?

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Why can't men be trusted?

Black dick is superior to white micropenis.

Why can't you be trusted ???

why can't jews be trusted?

theyre all manipulative sociopathic cunts and should be avoided at all costs lest you let one fuck up your life

Why can't trust be women?

Because they have ruined my life on multiple occasions, all starting with my mother

UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Why can't trust be trusted to be trusting?

Pretty much this lol

I guess you could look at it from an evolutionary standpoint, women who can effectively secure resources and beneficial social relationships are much more likely to thrive in nature

Yeah and all men are brutal warmongering sociopaths

Maybe every human should just kill themselves

>trusting anyone
Theres no one in this world you could trust with a million dollars. Even your bros.

Not just kill themselves, but women shouldn't have even the most basic rights

Then neither should men

Because women always think in terms of their own benefit

Not true at all. Women have never created or done anything, women have never built a civilization. They make babies and care for them, that's it, that's their primary function. They aren't needed for ANYTHING else and they aren't even really capable of doing anything else except for nurturing. When I ask any female if they can name any significant, world changing accomplishments that were done by a female or a group of females, they can never give me a solid answer. Women have done nothing throughout history except complain and stay dependent fucking half-men

why cant jews be trusted by women?

Oh look this argument for the billionth fucking time. Just admit you hate women because you see them as inferior because you are a sad pathetic person who never wants to see people as individuals and always feels the need to judge based on preconcived notions and has never once even both to get to know people and stays on anonymous image board where he is able to share is own personal failures with like minded assholes because echochambers are good for your misogynistic little heart.

If I said men's primary function was go fight other men and women really ruled the world you'd get all fucking butthurt about it If I said men's only purpose was to guard women while they were pregnant you would get butthurt about it. If I said men aren't needed for ANYTHING else besides sperm you would get butthurt about it. Men controlled the world prior to the 20th century so it is no wonder there are few stories in history where females accomplished much. But, if you are looking for something where a group of women actually accomplished something, check women's fucking suffrage.

muh vagina

what are you even doing here?

What an adorable question.

>Just admit you hate women because you see them as inferior because you are a sad pathetic person who never wants to see people as individuals and always feels the need to judge based on preconcived notions and has never once even both to get to know people and stays on anonymous image board where he is able to share is own personal failures with like minded assholes because echochambers are good for your misogynistic little heart.

For this whole thing right here: WRONG. I've lived with cunts all my life. I lived with my mom, she was horrible and emotional and nagging and irrational and well, basically everything a typical woman is. I've lived with girlfriends, I live with one now. All the fucking same. Dependent, yet totally entitled. Stupid, yet you think the world revolves around you.

I have given you too many chances. I am positive you are inferior to me. Absolutely 100% positive. You are too emotional and too reactive to be able to EVER be at the same level as men. I don't particularly hate women, I just see you guys for what you are: unfinished men. You are biologically programmed to be emotional and nurturing and that's what makes you lesser.

> Men controlled the world prior to the 20th century so it is no wonder there are few stories in history where females accomplished much.

You accomplished nothing because men understood back then you needed to be controlled for you primary function in society: creating children. You couldn't contribute to society and the creation of civilization back then, so men didn't see you as equals. Once the majority of us lost that view, now our societies are going to hell.

>But, if you are looking for something where a group of women actually accomplished something, check women's fucking suffrage

Literally just a bunch of cunts crying and whining to get what they want. Typical of women, just begging for "muh rights" by acting emotionally.

The question is op, why can't you be trusted?

>Womens suffrage

So they accomplished getting women the vote they don't deserve and shouldnt have for good reason thus dooming us all. Good job women

Men have their fair share of flaws, that's true, however, at least they can grasp the value and meaning of virtues and concepts such as honor, camaraderie, competition, duty and bonds. Woman on the other hand, have no concept of the importance in those things, they will only do something or talk about something if they see it as beneficial to them in a personal way.

If you want to see how women are self-centered compared to men, just try to argue with any of them, I can guarantee you that 99 out of 100 times, she will only know how to argue by using anecdotes, personal examples and talking about how the matter/topic affects her in a personal or emotional way way instead of trying to make an argument and giving examples from a supposed neutral and logical standpoint. They can't deconstruct something without bias or simply due to mere curiosity, the discussion and topics are always about them and not about the actual matter.

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Why is it that with women liberated in the West, you guys still barely contribute to governing, to scientific discovery, to labor, to new inventions, or to business.

You can't. That's why. Even when the opportunities are presented to you. Your argument about women not achieving anything up until the 20th century is invalid, because women are equal now and still do nothing

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kill them all

No. Look at DWS, she is an idiot

>For this whole thing right here: WRONG. I've lived with cunts all my life. I lived with my mom, she was horrible and emotional and nagging and irrational and well, basically everything a typical woman is. I've lived with girlfriends, I live with one now. All the fucking same. Dependent, yet totally entitled. Stupid, yet you think the world revolves around you.
>I have given you too many chances. I am positive you are inferior to me. Absolutely 100% positive. You are too emotional and too reactive to be able to EVER be at the same level as men. I don't particularly hate women, I just see you guys for what you are: unfinished men. You are biologically programmed to be emotional and nurturing and that's what makes you lesser.


That is nice I am glad you have your whole basis of the female gender based on a few women that you happen to know. I hope your current GF is ok with what a piece of shit you are. I am 100% positive you are inferior to most other men out there just through sheer lack of character as a man. Say someone is "lesser" because they are biologically programmed is always the hallmark of sociopaths. You can't think of someone as lesser because of what you FEEL biology has programmed them as even if you THINK you have been proven right a 1000 times over. You will never know people based on characteristics than you FEEL that you know.

>You accomplished nothing because men understood back then you needed to be controlled for you primary function in society: creating children. You couldn't contribute to society and the creation of civilization back then, so men didn't see you as equals. Once the majority of us lost that view, now our societies are going to hell.

Men didn't give a fuck back then about women, that was the problem. They didn't think they were saving civilization by controlling women, they just wanted an easy fuck doll that didn't mouth off to them. I doubt you are creating civilization and society that much

>she will only know how to argue by using anecdotes, personal examples and talking about how the matter/topic affects her in a personal or emotional way way instead of trying to make an argument and giving examples from a supposed neutral and logical standpoint.

Like you are now?

Now you get it!

>still no examples of women's accomplishments besides nagging until we let them have their way

Why is it that you provide me with 0 evidence and just wanted to make a terrible post to feel important and vindicated in your women hate?

lmgtfy.com/?q=women's accomplishments

Nothing he said was false. You are clearly on the rag. Gross.

Sure I am. Do you want to try responding again with out the asshole sarcasm, or is that just how you communicate?

Women are garbage lmao. The proof is in how much they hate each other. Nobody knows women better than women, and they seem to fucking hate women.

You're being triggered by facts right now, cunt. L O L

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>This much retardation
Females need men to guide them, that is and always was the case and it isn't a matter of physical strength only, as many people in position of power or important figures in the past didn't get to their position because of strength, but because of will and intelligence.

In 99% of human history, the only thing that women ever did was cook and take care of their house and children while men built civilizations, developed technology, hunt wild animals, fought in wars to protect their homes and countries and basically shaped the way we see the world now. When women were reading shitty romance novels in their homes, men were fighting in wars to protect them and were also changing the political/ideological view of the world in direct ways. When women were cooking and feeding their children in caves, men were hunting dangerous animals and putting their lifes at risky. When women had to worry just about getting a husband and having children, men had to worry about supporting the entire family, being successful and having almost all responsibilities on his shoulder.

Forget about physical strength here, how many women philosophers do you know? When you study philosophy and history, how many important women figures you find? And more importantly, how many women that were actually able to think outside the box and shape the way society think existed?

>You're being triggered by facts right now, cunt. L O L

Is that what you know or what you think? Let me boil this down to you in a way you will understand.

Don't worry I got this

Women hating each other is just a meme L O L. Sure some do not get a long with each other, and off their mannerisms maybe confusing to men not in the know, dick. But they really don't hate each other because of a fundamental flaw in female character, LOL

What anecdote did I use though? I never gave my personal experiences as example of anything, nor did I try to make the argument about me or my personal life, that's just you projecting. If you mean to say that every argument is a personal anecdote or biased in the same way, then you are even more retarded than I thought.

>I am 100% positive you are inferior to most other men out there just through sheer lack of character as a man

Just so you know. Most men think the exact same way as me, even the total beta cucks do but only subconsciously.

>You can't think of someone as lesser because of what you FEEL biology has programmed them as even if you THINK you have been proven right a 1000 times over.

I absolutely can think you are lesser if you have a biological and proven impediment that makes you less than a man. History has proven me right 1000 times over, bitch. If you have been proven to be inferior, then I can absolutely feel that way and be truthful with you about it.

>Men didn't give a fuck back then about women, that was the problem. They didn't think they were saving civilization by controlling women, they just wanted an easy fuck doll that didn't mouth off to them. I doubt you are creating civilization and society that much

Yes because men back then were smart and knew the truth. It was and still is all you are worth, baby making and fucking sorry to tell. Good thing the West looks like it's turning back to older, proven and working traditions, because someday we might go back to those standards, and when that time comes you can be my slave again

> I doubt you are creating civilization and society that much

Take a look at every single great civilization. Like Rome for example. Women stayed in their places. Hierarchy and patriarchy ruled and women were controlled for proper birth rates and stability. All these societies were the ones that ended up furthering human civilization and the ones that latest the longest.

My favorite thing is how Athens, Greece literally had a fucking play that was widely popular where women took over the government and turned it into a socialist hellhole. They knew back then and we know now

I always find it interesting how hard women haters keep pushing the historical merits of past men as if they had anything to do with it.

Great men are few and far between (and I am sure you only men white men), most people in were dirt poor farmers and laborers anyway. Only now are we seeing a shift to the individual rather than a collective with a few shining stars.

>western society is in decline
>coincidentally women have gained full rights within the past half century
>birthrates are down, white race is dying, mostly due to women starting to work and not have kids
>feminism and liberalism have taken over social values

There's a reason that cultures that are still patriarchal (Arab world, Hispanic nations, East Asia) are pretty much destined to take over while the West is in perennial decline

>you hate women because you see them as inferior
Weakness SHOULD be hated

>Most men think the exact same way as me,

Sounds like most men aren't educated

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I absolutely can think you are lesser if you have a biological and proven impediment that makes you less than a man. History has proven me right 1000 times over, bitch. If you have been proven to be inferior, then I can absolutely feel that way and be truthful with you about it.

I didn't call you bitch, but whatever. And, nope, still can't. I know you feel justified in doing so, but that is always the problem. I don't care what you feel history has shown you, it is never acceptable to have those preconceived notions. It shows a lack of intellectual humility and lack of depth as a person. a cretinous visage of a person, rather than a full introspective and critical thinker. For ever 1000 times you have been proven ring, I could point out a 1000 times you would be proven wrong. You can not reach objective conclusions on this either because of your predisposed biased. You will never meet a woman and not just think she is a hormonal bitch bag to oppress, yet I will always give men the benefit of the doubt before judging. That is your fundamental flaw as a person. Not as a gender, but you, specifically fail as a person for simply judging before getting to really know someone.

In God we trust.

Oh yes, those countries are doing wonderfully because hey oppress women. I am glad! Let's go practice some female genital mutilation and then kill those women for being raped because those countries have the REAL society and no moral decay. Sounds WONDERFUL.

Its good to be strong, it is never ok to hate someone for being "weak"

Is that because of the white man or the religion of peace AKA islam?

Fuck bitch, use some basic grammar. It was pissing me off trying to read all that shit in one breath. In the end I just gave up giving a fuck about your opinion.
>I still haven't read your train wreck of a post. Slut.

I don't care if its religion or not that causes it, it is the mindset of men in those countries.

Good, I hate having to reply to so many people. Also, I didn't call you bitch.

Women are emotional when they should be logical, and logical when they should be emotional. This is why they always come off as stupid and impassioned in logical arguments, but manipulative and heartless in personal relationships.

It really isn't a preconceived notion, bitch. It is common sense at this point. It always has been, why do you think women were oppressed for so long and still are? Because we all KNEW. Just go look at Socrates and his views upon women. Socrates may have been Western societies greatest thinker ever, he thought women were the most intellectually incapable creatures out there.

>You will never meet a woman and not just think she is a hormonal bitch bag to oppress, yet I will always give men the benefit of the doubt before judging. That is your fundamental flaw as a person. Not as a gender, but you, specifically fail as a person for simply judging before getting to really know someone.

Show me ONE just fucking ONE woman who isn't a hormonal bitch that needs to be reminded of her boundaries and maybe I will believe you. But I have lived on this Earth and associated with many women and I, like many other men, understand that even the best women are an emotional mess deep inside.

No, you didn't. Didn't you notice? I called YOU a bitch. Only a woman could be this fucking stupid...

>I always find it interesting how hard women haters keep pushing the historical merits of past men as if they had anything to do with it.
Where did I said or implied that I have anything to do with it? I'm giving these historical merits as EVIDENCE to support my viewpoint, that's how arguing works, you give examples and evidence to support the side you're supporting, something that you seem incapable to grasp as you are clearly arguing in a emotional way and is trying to turn the discussion in a ''u say this cuz u hate then'' without actually providing any evidence or solid argument to support anything you state. I could give other evidences to you that women rather follow than lead, but it's just so fucking obvious when you look at human history that I find impossible for anyone to deny it unless they are taking the argument in a personal way.


>Great men are few and far between
That hardly matters. We have thousands of years to use as base for our argument and the women/men ratio when it comes to positions of power or positions of influence in society is completely and utterly unbalanced in almost ALL areas.

>most people in were dirt poor farmers and laborers anyway
Yes, men used to work all day in farms, carrying weights, doing manual labor and taming animals, whereas women did nothing but stay at home having fun with seam and weaving.

> Only now are we seeing a shift to the individual rather than a collective with a few shining stars.
I really don't know what you mean here. The only difference is that now with feminism, women think that they have more rights when in fact they lost all privileges they had. But oh, at least they can vote, isn't that great? It's so great, that I'm sure the fact that the political scenario went to shit and took a
shift to the left afterwards was a mere coincidence.

I mean kek honestly look at any relationship around you. The impetus for every single "interest" a woman has in a man revolves around resource availability. Literally every aspect can be boiled down to if he can wine, dine, and if he's hot, Blow a load in her. Nobody forms a bond over

>wow he's just so interested in rock climbing

Because within 10 seconds it becomes

>like, what's it cost to travel around to different places to rock climb and buy all that gear

$$$$$$$$$$$

God forbid it's a nerdy habit; then it's just not worth mentioning. Popular? Means good at networking, more likely to get a good job. Funny? Plays into the same deal. Attractive? He'll give me hot kids.

The sad part is I'm not coming up with this on my own, this is verbatim what I'll hear in public at the gym, school, or at work. They talk about these individual factors but every single thing has an underlying theme of

>what's he got to offer me?

It's not going to ever change, but that's the way it fucking works. Now go win the lottery and beat the shit out of your gf, she'll never leave you.

If Strength is praiseworthy, then it's clear that Weakness should be despised

femicunts BTFO

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>Oh yes, those countries are doing wonderfully because hey oppress women.

Did I say these countries are doing good specifically. I'm sorry, I should have gone slower with your feeble woman mind so you could handle it. I did not mean these countries are doing good, but why don't you look up birthrates in the world. Women are a huge factor in the decline of the West. While the East and the Hispanic world are controlling women and maintaining healthy birthrates, the West is losing it's populations and in turn, losing it's power as a people

That doesn't mean these countries are doing well now, but they will inherit the world after this century if the West doesn't manage to maintain higher birthrates (almost a lost cause at this point) and doing so requires patriarchy. Women ditching marriage, women getting abortions, and women getting jobs is a major factor in the West's decline.

Study the West from the start of Mesopotamia until now bitch, there is a common trait in nearly all Western civilization from the beginning: women were controlled as a population to maintain birthrates, which subsequently made it so that there was enough men to keep the civilization going and prospering

It's literally always the same cause.

A man who serves puerile thinking is no great thinker. Calling your hero the world's "greatest thinker" is dangerous because, like everything else you said, it vindicates your world view. Again, try talking with and understanding women. Not pretending to do so. You might be surprised.


Riiiight, but I didn't care YOU one.

It's always just too easy brother

idiots think they're on the ball

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

What a great thread, this tumblr whore got B T F O

You are giving me my "evidence" to support my claim with each and every post. I am not going to take "LOL LOOK AT THIS MAN" from history as evidence that women are worthless just like you aren't going to take "LOL WOMEN ARE WORTHLESS CUZ MEN R DUM" as an argument from me.

Also nice thinking that women had easy work all day while men did all the hard work.

Not an argument.
Most of the argument.
Good heuristics based argument.
Paranoid argument (just because you're paranoid doesn't mean you aren't being followed.)
Taking the argument to silly extremes.
Yep.
Deflection.
Not All Men Are Great has the same
>not an argument
qualities as Not All Women are like that
Ding Ding Ding
Moral relativists will argue with this.
They can't let go the
>I don't understand morality therefore it's invalid
argument, fucking women.

The biggest mistake society made was giving women the vote, also not for the reason of what you are thinking, nor is it misogynistic to talk about this, first let me explain.

When the vote was held by the head of the household (Which majority of the time was a man though on rare occasions you had widows who assumed the head of the household) policies reflected around improving the household and society in general, why you may ask? Because to secure votes they had to appeal to households and the best interests for those in that household. You created policies that tried to better those households in the poverty bracket, you encouraged wealth generation in the households who held a modicum of wealth and you created fair policies for those households who happened to be in the upper class bracket of wealth.

Since giving women the right to vote what you have done now is split the household vote into two, this is the start of identity politics, because now instead of creating policies that are good for families you are now tailoring policies that are good for either men or women to try and secure their votes, so no longer are policies driven towards family values or is society working towards treasuring the family unit you are now working towards individuals, and inherently individuals are selfish.

Step it forward a few years and look at what you have, you have policies that are designed to appeal to certain parts of society, what is that, you are a single mother, it is all good, we have welfare for you (encouraging single mothers), what is that, you are to lazy to get a job, that is cool, we have welfare for you as well as long as you vote for me. This extends across all parties as well, the democrats have secured the black woman vote by creating a welfare state for them, they secure other identity politics voting blocks by targeting certain demographics.

Why is the pink ID bitch so asshurt in this thread? Anyone want to take a stab at it?

>A man who serves puerile thinking is no great thinker.

>Socrates wasn't a good thinker
>Because I think he was childish myself

This women's logic my friends on full fucking display.

>Again, try talking with and understanding women. Not pretending to do so. You might be surprised.

You're implying that I haven't done this. I have. With actually almost every women I know. I didn't feel the way I do now when I was 18. Also, women who I have been able to understand and deal with on a certain level have gotten to that point through my teachings. Not even kidding. I often think that my current gf would be a retarded, pink hat wearing feminist cunt if I didn't spend so much time and effort redpilling her. Thank God women are malleable

Weakness should be encouraged to become stronger, not despised and ridiculed.

Not "btfo" sorry

Why do you keep calling me bitch as an insult. You can't just be civil?

Anyway, if birth rates can only be maintained by controlling women, maybe that country is too awful to exist in the first place.

bullshit

Why don't you take a fucking look at any of the other posts I made ITT that weren't one fucking sentence you dumb nigger

Women view men like how men view jobs. Women don't see relationships as this special lovey dovey romance bullshit where they're spiritually bonded forever - only men get blinded by poetry like that. They see it simply as a lifestyle boost first and a way to secure progeny second - the only thing women can love unconditionally are their own children, and that is it.

Imagine if you are working in a mine an hour away for minimum wage and no benefits, when someone swoops in and offers you a six figure desk job with retirement, benefits, etc. You'd dump that piece of shit job for a better one in a heartbeat. But obviously, you aren't going to want to work a shitty job in a mine anyway to survive, when you're job hunting you're gonna look for that dream job first and maybe settle with some mediocre office job if you give up.

So why not just have women be heads of the household all the time and not care about it?

I could be trusted. Create a company with my bros. Make something of myself and help my homies as well

What is right and what is pragmatic are rarely congruent.
It's not that I fundamental disagree with what you're saying, believe me.

this.also, appreciate your mom while she's still breathing.

I also don't think we necessary agree on what basic rights mean.
I consider almost nothing faggot liberals today to constitute basic rights to actually be in that group, but the rights given by God are not yours to revoke.

Boohoo. Women got the right to vote. In a system designed by men. Try harder roastie

I'll go right around and say

>Socrates was a good think because he conforms to my childish views

See how that works?


>You're implying that I haven't done this. I have. With actually almost every women I know. I didn't feel the way I do now when I was 18. Also, women who I have been able to understand and deal with on a certain level have gotten to that point through my teachings. Not even kidding. I often think that my current gf would be a retarded, pink hat wearing feminist cunt if I didn't spend so much time and effort redpilling her. Thank God women are malleable


Maybe you are the problem then. I feel bad for your GF who has to be shoveled shit in her face daily as "redpills" I can imagine how that conversation goes "Hey Honey, your entire gender consists of weak inferior minds and only exists to serve men because that is your biological programming and I have every right to oppress you as the superior being, what do you want to do for dinner?"

Yet they keep getting themselves involved with nigs that end up killing them.

>Why do you keep calling me bitch as an insult. You can't just be civil?

Because you're a bitch? Idk, why not.

>Anyway, if birth rates can only be maintained by controlling women, maybe that country is too awful to exist in the first place.

Ok so Assyria, the Babylonians, the Akkadians, the ancient Egyptians, the Athenians and Spartans, the Carthaginians, Rome, the Mongolian empire, the German empire, EVERY fucking Western imperialist power, America up until the 1960's. All these countries, that specifically believed in monogamy and strict places for women in society, all with the same goal of maintaining birthrates, were somehow awful? This is ridiculous. Either you have never studied the history of our great civilization, or you don't want to believe that women were """""oppressed""" for a reason.

Read this book called The Death of the West, by Pat Buchanan if you want to understand the factors at play here more. Then read some history books about the fundamental values and practices that our society was founded on, you will see the trend and you will soon understand.

Because we'd be dead as a species by 2020 my man. Women would either vlow the money on handbags or give them to refugee charities.

I agree here my friend but I fundamentally believe that pragmatism wins over idealism every time.

you all must be larping because in all my life ive only met one girl who sounds this bad, the rest wete TV protrayals from shows usually written/produced by men

if youre not larping, your tolerance for social engagement is low and probably degenerate

the dunning kruger effect basically is how idiots like yourself are super confident but in reality know very little but still you run your mouth
where as the more knowledge you have the more you contemplate that you may be off

That is why, because they emotionalize out of short sighted ignorance that doesn't lend them the ability to control their instinctual urges

Also there is no morality, good and evil are concepts they aren't real out side of our minds there fore are not universally intrinsic


Pick up a fucking book

Women were never oppressed. It would have been a waste of resources throughout history for women to do anything other than shit out kids annd take care of them.. The men did everything else. Women arent bilogically suited to do mans work so it's a waste same goes vica versa

I dont understand why this is so hard for stronk womyn to understand

i have yet to see how men dont also

>Because you're a bitch? Idk, why not.

Because its a poor indication of character to throw insults at someone who never insulted you first?


>Ok so Assyria, the Babylonians, the Akkadians, the ancient Egyptians, the Athenians and Spartans, the Carthaginians, Rome, the Mongolian empire, the German empire, EVERY fucking Western imperialist power, America up until the 1960's. All these countries, that specifically believed in monogamy and strict places for women in society, all with the same goal of maintaining birthrates, were somehow awful?

If they couldn't maintain their Empires with out controlling women, then yes. Otherwise it is just an Empire of men for men. Sure you could say an Empire of women for women would oppress men or fail in other ways, this is why Imperialistic and Nationalistic nations should not be the basis for society.

Basically if your society can't maintain a decent standard of living with out oppressing SOMEONE then it doesn't deserve to exist.

>The Death of the West, by Pat Buchanan

Well that doesn't sound biased at all but, I will give it a look over, I am not opposed to new information.

Good question, the simple fact as it stands is that as humanity evolved and civilization advanced men where thrust into the position as head of the household, this started of when men had to defend his family from predators and continued on from there throughout the ages. If one was to break it down men took a more proactive role in the defense of his household (What could go wrong and how should it be handled for example) while women tended to take a more reactive role (Dealing with children and using the adrenaline of the flight or fight reaction to protect their children) and having this paradigm followed for hundreds of thousands of years it became imprinted upon us through our genetics.

This is not necessarily a bad thing either as it helped humanity get to where it is right now, though the better question you should be asking is with the way society is going now (an example of such is that a lage majority of criminals come from single mother households) what should we be doing to encourage the recreation of stable family units?

Indecisiveness is not the highest virtue, if you have faith, doubt is a silly attribute.
>Also there is no morality, good and evil are concepts they aren't real out side of our minds there fore are not universally intrinsic
>durrr nothing is real because you can't disprove solipsism using my preferred parameters.
Just because you reject good and evil doesn't invalidate them as concepts

Pick up a decent fucking book.

Sounds like you need a good dicking, but let me guess - you're an angry dyke from leddit here to show men how empowered the fairer sex is right? You're speaking to me on a computer because men let you do so (sadly). All the rights and privileges you enjoy in the first world were put here by men in their benevolence despite knowing very well that the trees they plant wont shade them, but their children. Women are weak, pathetic by the very nature of their existence. The day I see a woman blame herself for her own life choices just ad most men i know, is the day I'll stop considering you worthless sacks of emotional drainage.

Protip: 43 years and even with my current girlfriend, I've yet to see it.

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>Socrates was a good think because he conforms to my childish views

No Socrates was great because he created philosophies and methods of teaching that were so unique and so influential that we use his work, his thoughts, and his strategies today to shape our beliefs and understanding of the world. You can't just say he's childish to somehow invalidate someone who has influenced humanity this much, to the point that we are still talking about him thousands of years later.

>Maybe you are the problem then. I feel bad for your GF who has to be shoveled shit in her face daily as "redpills" I can imagine how that conversation goes "Hey Honey, your entire gender consists of weak inferior minds and only exists to serve men because that is your biological programming and I have every right to oppress you as the superior being, what do you want to do for dinner?"

I think I am a bit more benign and persuasive with my rhetoric IRL than I am on here, because on here I can be a jackass as much as I want. There's one other problem here

> what do you want to do for dinner?

Why the fuck would I be asking her what's for dinner? kek, only half joking here

wew m8 getting p emotional there

keep your hormones in check, you look fragile as fuck

literally a day doesnt go by on /pol where one user just absolutely rages at the mention of women lmao

>what should we be doing to encourage the recreation of stable family units?

How about not having such an hectic work/life ratio and terrible fathers who bail on their families who fail to take responsibility

I am so glad you are letting me use a computer Mister Man. Please don't take the computer away! My weak womanly mind can't fathom what to do with out it! Oh please! My vagina is bleeding and I can't control myself! I need man penis to correct my behavior because of my biological programming! Heeeeeelp!

Nice frog first off.

>No Socrates was great because he created philosophies and methods of teaching that were so unique and so influential that we use his work, his thoughts, and his strategies today to shape our beliefs and understanding of the world. You can't just say he's childish to somehow invalidate someone who has influenced humanity this much, to the point that we are still talking about him thousands of years later

I can if he thinks all women are terrible. Its like saying Hitler wasn't terrible because he built roads and hospitals (I know (((jews)))) and all that). Getting some items right doesn't excuse others. Christopher Columbus is a terrible fucking human even though he discovered part of the Americas. I don't care what great accomplishments people make if they fail so hard in other areas.

>I think I am a bit more benign and persuasive with my rhetoric IRL than I am on here, because on here I can be a jackass as much as I want. There's one other problem here

Good, at least.

>Why the fuck would I be asking her what's for dinner? kek, only half joking here

Because you value her opinion like a good boyfriend would.

Aw you're a christ cuck I get it
I'm not rejecting them, I'm saying they are merely tropes in the human psyche

ethical systems exist but this is different

I never brought up virtue or rank of virtues if there is an objective measurement at all,
that's you contrived unsubstantiated conjecture
really proving my point about you thinking you understand things

I said they are only concepts (please work on your reading comprehension)
math is real 2 +2 = 4 is true,
also being a concept doesn't invalidate anything from having impacts
Good and Evil would just be in that case subjective and not really a way to measure value, unlike ethics systems

Your behaving like an angsty teen on his first Dawkins book thinking he is now possessor of TRUTH it's funny in a sad sort of way

>If they couldn't maintain their Empires with out controlling women, then yes. Otherwise it is just an Empire of men for men. Sure you could say an Empire of women for women would oppress men or fail in other ways, this is why Imperialistic and Nationalistic nations should not be the basis for society.

Fucks sake. I'm not going to get through to you at all, am I? Why is it then that these societies are the model for almost every single civilization and economic and social idealism that we create today? Please show me one example of a society based on full equality of sexes and people, that managed to become a powerful empire that changed the world. Whether you like it or not, oppression is at the very base layer of almost every large power and pinnacle of human civilization.

>Basically if your society can't maintain a decent standard of living with out oppressing SOMEONE then it doesn't deserve to exist.

This was basically the idea that spawned Marxism. Look how your ideals have done throughout history. The fact that you can believe this and deny the well established facts about these societies that I've mentioned just demonstrates how women think

It's just thinking everyone can be equal without giving a solid example as to how that ideology has succeeded in practice