LIBERTARIANS vs. NATSOCS poll

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1,600 VOTES ON THE POLL AND LIBERTARIANS ARE CURRENTLY IN THE LEAD

For the longest time Sup Forums has been split between libertarians and natsocs

Let's see what faction is in the majority

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Friendly reminder that totalitarian fuckwads are not friends of liberty.

this is a divide and conquer thread
Sup Forums is a board where the ancaps team up with the nazis to elect trump and other things

It's not desu I just wanted to see the results

Friendly reminder in a NatSoc society, no one has to work at Mcdonalds and the pay is amazing even for manual labor.

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>muh free market is all that matters

America is the most powerful and wealthy nation on the planet earth. We got that way from having a robust and free market, of both capital and ideas. We crushed the fascist alliance, and we outcompeted the commies. The emperical evidence is on the side of capitalism.

look how he drew the ancap
it was a commie b8 image

>We crushed the fascist alliance
no we got sucked into killing millions of whites
other shit you said was correct

was he right?

>the meme of nazi prosperity
Propaganda. Cliché. Bullshit. Military keynesianism brought nothing to misery to any society that has tried it.

"In the long run we are all dead." -Keynes

Seems fitting to what happened to the Germans.

Keep sucking that military-industrial complex big jew cock and being a fanboy of dictators.

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when the free market gets out of hand and capitalists start engaging in speculative finance capitalism, then you need national socialism to ensure that capitalism serves the "people", unironically admitting it is a exploitative system without morals & ethics.

Well we did totally fuck Italy up, and they were fascists. It's factually true, but maybe not in spirit. I probably should have just said we crushed Imperialism.

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Yes, it is. If you don't have free market, you have zero (0) chance of thriving. Literally none. Countries with free market will always beat you no matter what.

Besides, to any rational person, a natsoc is the EXACT same kind of muh identity faggot as a communist or an SJW, trying to force his beliefs onto others.

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Somethings are more important than having the ability to do something

Why not both?
They have quite a few advantages, a synthesis of ideologies would be perfection incarnate.

Why libertarianism is destined to fail in a multicultural society.

The natural political evolution of Sup Forumsacks

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That graphic makes me so fucking angry.

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>doesn't know the difference between totalitarian and authoritarian

blah blah blah. That image attacks the symptoms of an illness while totally ignoring its causes.

An economy based on consumption is a symptom of the current (fiat) monetary policy that causes inflation. In a scenario of constant inflation there is a great incentive to spend the currency before it loses a significant part of its value. It is under deflation that the incentive to limit consumption, save and invest those savings exists.

Deflation has been the natural state of affairs for the two centuries prior to WW2. That's one of the main forces behind the rapid development of industrialism.

tldr; end the fed.

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Please enlighten me.

Libertarians are just liberals who hate the government and their system makes no sense

NatSoc for the win

your id sums up your ideas
angela merkel inherited hitlers seat of power and look what she did with it
racists must remove power from the state if they ever want to stop going to jail for "hate crimes"

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>LIBERTARIANS ARE CURRENTLY IN THE LEAD
fucking nu-pol. i hope you all die cucks.

>nu/pol/
Riiiiight

ok kike

I'm a fascist but not a NatSoc

Hey. Before you fucktards start accusing everyone of being newfags, I want to tell you about the ideologies of Sup Forums throught its existance. Don't deny that many of you fags came here during happenings like the American elections or Gamer Gate. I have been here since day one, pretty much, though I have never been to /new/. If there are any /new/ or /n/ pro Anons here, they are free to talk about the old boards.

When this board was first found, the majority of the users were libertarians; most were against unrestricted immigration but were for legalization of drugs and such, and sometimes even pro-gay marriage. Most of the discussion was about economics, anyway, not niggers and Jews.

Then the Stormfags heard that Sup Forums had a new politics board opened. With the Stormfags came the BBC spammers. This is all 5 years or so ago, back when the word "cuck" wasn't even really commonly used. Most of the discussion started revolving around niggers and Jews then, and Sup Forums became overwhelmingly national socialist. I remember the "Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-white" pasta spammed everywhere. Libertarians and "free market will fix everything" shitposting was still common, however; we had the board turn red and the Soviet anthem blast all over during Sup Forums's first(or maybe second) April Fool's.

kys youreselve

You need the snek-pill mate

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oslo rozpoznaje was z karalucha xD

>nearly 2000 votes
>3% difference
what would happen if NatSoc and Libertarianism had a love child?

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I'm not an edgy teenager or a dumbass though.

>Poland starts war by mass executions and massacre of german civilians on their clay
>germany saves their own people
>FUCKIGN NAZIS

>>/reddit/

faszyzm taki klasyczny to smród
mussolini nawet akceptował żydów do swojej partii i chciał utworzyć żydowskie państwo w palestynie

>tfw nationalist libertarian
socialism is shite

Don't forget the constant Holohoax and Iluminati threads. My suspicion has always been that the board is majority Libertarian/Civic Nationalist with a very vocal minority of NatSoc.

I never said I don't like natsocs xD

I can get along with fascists because they respect business, but NatSocs tend to always be autistic larpers.

Nope. Never been there. Just never been an edgy teenager or a dumbass. And besides, most of you faggots are what they called the untermensch. Lazy fatasses who don't do a damn thing to better their lives.

>germany saves their own people
Yeah, how's that working out for them? Bootlicking robots...

Just voted libertarian. Im a walking contradiction
No definitive outcome yet

i'm a (moderate) libertarian, against the colossal welfare state, against most military intervention, not a huge fan of the federal reserve (and hence the BIS), but i don't agree with ie private police forces and toll roads everywhere.

i can't say i have a large amount of sympathy for natsoc, but i don't actually understand why while nacsoc is all but banned in most western countries, communism isn't.

>the current (fiat) monetary policy that causes inflation. In a scenario of constant inflation there is a great incentive to spend the currency before it loses a significant part of its value. It is under deflation that the incentive to limit consumption, save and invest those savings exists.

The two go hand in hand. Why do you assume that image contradicts the idea of wanting to end the symbiotic relationship between the current markets and the Fed?

>angela merkel inherited hitlers seat of power and look what she did with it
You're an absolute fucking moron
>racists must remove power from the state if they ever want to stop going to jail for "hate crimes"
I don't even know what you're insinuating, but you should fuck right on back to plebbit

Then a lot of Sup Forumstards came here, during the first summer, back when Sup Forums assured us all that Romney was about to win. They quickly caught up on the ridiculous shit posted here, which no one took seriously previously. This board became a den of conspiracy theories around that time. I don't mean "Jews are trying to destroy the white race" tier stuff, I mean Illerminatty stuff. "Redpilling" became a thing around that time, early 2013 I think, and we had idiots here trying to draw people from other boards to Sup Forums. Flags came shortly afterwards, if I recall correctly; though at first they were meme flags, like Nazi flags and Israeli flags and LGBT flags and such.

>but i don't actually understand why while nacsoc is all but banned in most western countries, communism isn't.
you have not been here long enough if you don't know why that is

Most people in this board is simply Nationalist. Even Fascists (like me) usually get more vote than NatSoc and Libertarians in polls

>And besides, most of you faggots are what they called the untermensch. Lazy fatasses who don't do a damn thing to better their lives.
nice namecalling and projecting. you must be rly smart and not a dumbass at all shill.

at least a libertarian society has lasted past a few years and isnt hated universally as the worst authoritarian ideology equaled only by communism

Anarcaps are all jew lol
Long live to national-socialism!

BROWN PEOPLE DO NOT RESPECT LIBERTARIAN PRINCIPLES!
When will you realize that even though libertarianism is perfectly moral, brown people do not care about your morals and instead want your resources which they will take by ballot or bullet when they outnumber whites in our own countries.

Maybe it's just me, but fascists seem to know their political philosophy and history. Natsocs don't and just want to suck hitlers dick. If one more wehraboo tells me it was Churchill that declared war on Germany. ...

No, people who seem to be unironically NatSoc are either shills or nu/pol/.

They were as rare on Sup Forums as the Communists and other identity-based ideologies before the 2016 election.

True Sup Forums likes the Nazi memes because they're funny, but realizes that NatSoc is useless in practice.

After the bantz from the last board I have to say this should be a slide thread.

It does nothing to try and force our closest allies to comply to our specific doctrine.

Give the movement a decade of growth before we get this upset and concerned with one another.

It was very fascistic a few months after its foundation. Stormfags were shooed out after a while, though.

Also have to use pastebin because 4ch*n thinks my post is spam for some reason.

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You should write a history of Sup Forums. Your memory is a lot better than mine.

oxymoron

We are nationalists and will follow our county and we want what's best for our country. But no big government so people can do degenerate shit and I don't really care about my fellow countrymen who would benefit from some welfare.

Natsoc ideology has been around since the dawn of time. Rome,Sparta,nomadic tribes etc. Libertarians are only recent and benefit Jews anyway

Truth hurts don't it? Now go back to fapping to your "superior" 2d girl while claiming we need to secure a future for our white children. Don't forget to say how shitty white women are and then say you wanna impregnate an Asian.

National libertarianism > all

I didn't expect results so tied I tought Sup Forums was mostly fascist

lol we will be one and the same soon

salty anglo.
>london
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Bullshit. There were many genuine Nazis here a few months after the board was found.

Are there seriously no one left here from back when the Stormfag pasta was posted everywhere? The entire board became about race, niggers, and Jews. Like entirely. Discussion of economics almost stopped.

The Illuminati shit came here after Romney got BTFO.

>you have not been here long enough if you don't know why that is

been on 4ch for about 7 years. and yes, i certainly do know to what you allude. i just don't necessarily agree with all things discussed here. but i absolutely love the freedom of speech.

i value freedom of speech above all. that's why i'm here.

which ideology will be the first to get to 1000 votes?

holy shit

Libertarian does not mean open borders or unrestricted immigration. Undesirables (in a hoppean libertarian vision) can be physically removed, so to speak.

I remember getting called JIDF a lot...

>Libertarians= limited government, cops, military, governing rule, capitalist economy
>NatSoc= no definition beyond "its socialism but national" "jews cause problems and so do blacks, whites have been proven to last. thats why we dont need to think about a decent system incase whites become degenerate"

>i need to spend time on a board where i consider most of the people dumbasses or edgy teenagers to tell them how i am better one and how bad their life is
yea i am hurth

Nu/pol lolbiterian plebbit le_donald civic faggots have been flooding /pol ever since Trump Won.

They don't even realize that their stupid shill controlled opposition ideology was created by KIKES.
NATSOC is the ONLY ideology that protects, preserves, and advances the Aryan Race.
NatSoc follows the Natural Order.
Nature is a NatSoc.

I did. The rest is on the pastebin. I'd be happy if some of you guys posted it here, the system thinks it is spam, somehow.

Man the Zimmerman trial was amazing. Dorner was even more amazing. I legit giggled like a little girl in front of the laptop wondering what happened to some chocolate Rambo an ocean away.

I just dropped the poll in the current /ptg/. Expect a surge of lolbertarian votes

>>NatSoc= no definition beyond "its socialism but national" "jews cause problems and so do blacks, whites have been proven to last. thats why we dont need to think about a decent system incase whites become degenerate"

even i as a libertarian know that this is not true at all. why do you comment when you so clearly don't know of which you talk?

Yes and how will they be physically removed? With the power of the state. Once all the browns are out we can have our libertarian paradise.

You're the only one that's sucking it. (((libertarian))) society like America sucks it big time while ripping off all the civillians like North Korea.

I'm NatSoc because people besides the military get good jobs you fucking idiot. Libertarians want everyone to join the military to get the gibs you idiot. We don't. It's so the opposite you don't even know what you're talking about.

>Most of the discussion started revolving around niggers and Jews then

Those were simpler times.

SUDDEN DEATH

>chocolate Rambo
I like to think he got out and is still living innawoods somewhere...

this. newfags are literal niggers. barge in and demand we change our way and starts throwing insults

>NatSoc follows the Natural Order.
>Nature is a NatSoc.
this is the lamest meme and i keep seeing it on all these threads.

Yeah. People legit don't even call eachother JIDF anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if these newfags don't know that JIDF is actually a thing.

>When this board was first found, the majority of the users were libertarians
yes
>Most of the discussion was about economics, anyway, not niggers and Jews
wrong. The libertarians were split about 50/50 between race realism and civic types
>Then the Stormfags heard that Sup Forums had a new politics board opened
This is revisionist. There was a constant Nat Soc presence that grew from dissatisfied libertarians. Think back to old Sup Forums and their ironic Hitler did nothing wrong memes. You could say that's what attracted them to Sup Forums, but not to Sup Forums specifically.

Oh fuck off, I haven't got the older polls, but it's always been close

Daily reminder that a libertarian society would allow for pockets of private national/socialists. If you buy up some land collectively with your fellow brothers and all voluntarily decide to live there under some pre-agreed set of rules, then that's perfectly allowed in a libertarian society.

The only difference is that you wouldn't be able to use force against anyone to make them stay. But then if natsoc is as good as people seem to claim it is, then people would want to stay, right?

>Muh proud Aryan heritage

I think the choice is obvious.

this so much

member SRS?