Serious Question: Economically Can India ever Surpass China?

1. Could this happen at all?

2. What are the necessities and requisites to achieving this?

3. And lastly, Is it fair to say India is the biggest threat to China in the future?

What are your opinions Sup Forums ? Clearly EU and USA favor India over Communists China, that should be gratefully helpful in surpassing China as well, yeah?

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i hate you and china.
i hope asia nukes itself into oblivion.

India will need to improve their transportation system. First, they will need to install toilet paper racks every 5 yards for their street shitting lifestyle.

How does that solve any of your problems dumbass? You're still Russia's bitch.

The toilet meme again? Come on, this is a serious question.

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1. Unless a unified people exists, the state will forever be overly bureaucratic and stratified. From what I understand, Hindi is the national language, but virtually no one in the South speaks it. Hiring millions of bureaucrats to not only handle regional languages but also producing goods and services (signage, systems etc) in all languages is an unneeded strain on any government. Regional factionalism is pretty bad too, seeing how there isn't much to bind Indian citizens (Hinduism isn't that strong a tool unless an external force, like Muslims, are in the area. Hinduism isn't an organised religion). China can progress no problem because its unified in language, race and government (no democracy).


2. Get rid of democracy for a decade or two. Pick up Sun Yet Sen's "Three Principles of the People" and put the country under "Tutorage", where democracy is temporarily suspended in favour of education. Having millions of scheduled peoples and dozens of different races/castes all voting for their interests isn't productive.

1. Yes, US hot war with china
2. China over-extending their political privileges
3. year 2100? lol

special note: you need to shoah your low caste and/or troublemaking muslims which china did and is still doing

The only major advantage I see is that they have a larger English speaking population.
Nobody wants to learn chink to do business. Chinks are the Jews of the Asian world anyway. I would do business with anyone else first.

>Could this happen at all?
>What are the necessities and requisites to achieving this?
With Globalization coming as a threat to Western World, yeah it can happen. Since, most of Chinese economy is Western based and if try to eliminate our poverty and then try to cater our own Market of 1.3 billion then yeah it is very possible.

>And lastly, Is it fair to say India is the biggest threat to China in the future?
China will always see India as a rival because when we Indians look at India we only tend to see a shithole that can never be fixed but when China (Chinese government) sees India, they see our true potential, the things we can achieve if we ever stopped being a shithole.

The reason China economically and militarily supporsts Pookistan and Naxals to keep instability in India

oi guys, what was the "morphed picture of structure" posted by that guy which caused riots in trombay? considering muslims have only one structure, we know what it was, but how was it morphed? like, was it one of thepictures regularly posted on Sup Forums?(such as nukes on mecca, that guy with leg on mecca cube etc.)

1. No
2. Nothing you can do about it
3. No, there is no threat to China

The Chinese puppet has sPOOken. Go fuck yourself Pookistani.

Greatest ally, iron brother :^)

I think both are doing great in certain aspects. But there is a lot of room for improvement.

1. India could do with some reduction in race/religious problems. It should also look into healthcare and housing issues.

2. China should have a free press and try to tackle the local corruption.

>1. Could this happen at all?
10% chance at best

>2. What are the necessities and requisites to achieving this?
Abandon the democracy system, it never worked out for developing countries. Also abandon the caste system to increase literacy rate, otherwise your population is just a heavy burden

>3. the biggest threat to China
the biggest threat to China is itself, always has been and always will be

>EU and USA favor India
yeah totally

>t. chink intellect

Yeah, if you get your shit together.

Bad a boom ting

Paki bros are our greatest ally

>Hindi is the national language

India has NO national language. Hindi just happens to be the official language since a large percentage of population speak or atleast understand it. Infact, English has bigger claim to be the national language than hindi is.

About the minorities and Muslim issues, how can country like India effectively deal with it? The populations of the minorities when compared to rest of the world is just enormous.

Unless, India adopts absolute communism or a military dictatorship, nothing really can be done imo.

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How can you side with such filth??

STOP. You're just exploiting the poor porkis. There is nothing between China and Pak to form such a bond, it is merely a tie based on common enemity against india.

>About the minorities and Muslim issues, how can country like India effectively deal with it?

Shoah

Fix your stench and stop being devious little manlets and maybe I'll start liking Indians more than chinks.

>EU and USA favor India
>yeah totally

What are you implying exactly? As fellow democracies, US and EU clearly more than favor India. They infact view China as a threat along with the Russians.

The reason you do so is because you perceive them as potential rivals who may challenge your position soon.

Fun fact: this is exactly the reason why every patriotic American on Sup Forums is anti-EU as well - it's not because they disagree with the policies or care at all, they delude themselves to pretend to care so they can feign deep concern and promote separatism "for the greater good of the poor white EU bros".

>i hope asia nukes itself into oblivion.

thats never going to happen you fat fuck, maybe in your loser dreams when you cry at night

this century is the Asian century, no one gives a fuck about america now.

youre a nigger barging into every room with his dick hanging out saying how big it is.

Lol

> English
Something needs to be used as a common language for work, administration and education. Its not going to be English, because conservatives and nationalists from all corners of India will chimp out. Hindi as of now isn't working very well, especially since the state has hired millions to literally just keep this multilingual bureaucracy functioning when so many could be laid off.

China used to have six gorrilion languages too, until a man named Qin Shihuang conquered all of China in 221BC and burnt every book and buried alive every scholar who didn't teach the Qin language, which is now called Chinese.

> About the minorities and Muslim issues, how can country like India effectively deal with it? The populations of the minorities when compared to rest of the world is just enormous.

Apartheid or continued population exchange with Pakistan.

> Unless, India adopts absolute communism or a military dictatorship, nothing really can be done imo.

Military dictatorship.

Refer to China's siding with Pakistan for trading purposes and perhaps more importantly, to hinder Indian strength.

India is too big a nation to consider Genocide/ethnic purging. Muslim population of India is now at 182 million people, almost as much as Islamic republic of Pakistan itself. Only one other country has bigger muslim count - Indonesia.

If India did what you're suggesting, it will end up the biggest mass murder in human history since Genghis Khan.

>1. Could this happen at all?
Yes. India is innovating fast and if they hit the right spot their economy will skyrocket. They've been aiming to get rid of bureaucracy for some time already. If they succeed it will be a revolutionary for the entire world.
>2. What are the necessities and requisites to achieving this?
Don't make the same mistakes as other nations, don't get dragged into unnecessary wars and don't get cucked.
>3. And lastly, Is it fair to say India is the biggest threat to China in the future?
China is China's biggest threat. They're in the Western 90's now. When they reach the 2000's shit's gonna go down. The Chinese know this and they're trying to prevent this from happening. Whether they succeed or not we'll see.

Would be pretty fucking bro tier though

You chinks give other chinks a bad name when siding with such filth.

Pakistan is alright in my book.

sure they're muslim, but its not like we're letting them settle and breed in China or saying shit like, "Rapists are victims to!" if they rape one of ours.

Precisely. It is a convenient strategic alliance.

> A British man attempts to take the moral high ground

May I refer you to the Opium Wars? Empire-building does not take morals into account.

You don't have what it takes to be the next China, sorry.

1.No pajeet
2.Communism
3.No

>US and EU clearly more than favor India.
That's the problem. They give with one hand and take with the other. Play your own game, just don't set the world on fire while doing so. The US would be more than happy of seeing India fight China because they know US can easily win against China and they don't give a fuck about what happens to India in a total war.

India needs a Hitler to clean things up around there and knock off the bullshit

Here: They're filth.

Jokes on you - I'm a fellow east asian.

Are you from Hong Kong by any chance?

We will be surpassing China in population by 2025, that's a 800 million solid young work force ready to be exploited for the nations gain. So how do we not have what it takes?

Burgers chose China for a reason, they could outsource their jobs to South America to begin with, but that didn't seem to work out. Do you think they didn't consider to work with India?

India may be useful to balance chink power, but all in all you're born into the wrong race. Doesn't mean you won't achieve a comfortable standard of living though.

And what the ancestors of the british have done have nothing to do with what their descendants are doing. If you apply this principle to the chinese, how can they take the moral high ground after what mao did or after many other killings and slaughter within china?

>So how do we not have what it takes?

>800 million more mouths to feed
>1.6 billion metric tonnes of extra sewage strain on an already inadequate sewage system

The vast majority of those 800 million are going to be growth-stunted sewage divers that molest girls taking outdoor shits.

The goal is to reduce your population and mechanize your industries Pajeet.

no. you had 50 years when you were wealthier than china. china went through 2 world wars, a civil war, several minor wars, and decades of isolation and still came out on top. Indians who think they are the next china are completely utterly delusional.

Population =/= productivity

BOTH COUNTRIES ARE ROUGE STATES FULL OF LOWLIFES

SINK
THE
CHINKS

SUKIYAKI
THE
PAKIS

fuck off Vietnam.

All the hate Indians and Pakis get is weird to me, desu. Compared to others, Paki and Indian immigrants here are generally hard workers. They hate eachother's guts tho.

Robots happening soon. China knows his current working system is fucked in the short run, so they're trying to change their working class as soon as possible. A few years ago a robot would just hold a metal chunk together then move onto the next. Nowadays a robot can build an entire car all by itself. Jobs are in jeopardy.

Based 'Nam

1. No your average IQ is to low from all the shit tier ppl.

2. Gas all of your subhumans

3. Probably not.

>they could outsource their jobs to South America

South America was a mess at the time, still is in various ways. Infact, they are so fucked up, they don't even trade between each other. Argentina and Brazil hate each other and so on.

> Do you think they didn't consider to work with India?

They did but at the time our economy wasn't a open one. Only in 1991, India became a open market economy inviting foreign investment. However by that time, Chinese economic miracle was already underway and burgers realized it was much easier to go with the chinks.

What do you think of this: Also, pic related.

>One country builds the modern world
>The other's biggest contribution was being a trade post for a European country
>Tries to be condescending regardless

Why is India so poor and backward? Indians are smart people, and they don't suffer from a repressive government like China or Russia.

Holy shit, when you shrink both your flags down, they look pretty much the same.

The countries are therefore the same now. You shall henceforth be called Hong Nam.

>2. Get rid of democracy for a decade or two. Pick up Sun Yet Sen's "Three Principles of the People" and put the country under "Tutorage", where democracy is temporarily suspended in favour of education. Having millions of scheduled peoples and dozens of different races/castes all voting for their interests isn't productive.
Democracy isn't something one can "turn off/on" just like that, user. It requires institutions built over decades or even centuries.

Aussie bringing bantz.

i've been to India on business trip.

the vast majority of you are shit and incompetent, not to mention extremely inflexible and bureaucratic.

India is a mess and will be for the next hundred years or more. With the way things going, you'll have a street shitter donning the latest VR headset of himself in a proper toilet.

Hong Kong is British. Show some respect.

can any user with a more rounded knowledge of indian naval architecture confirm that, counter intuitively, not one single indian warship, ever, had a poop deck?

>the vast majority of you are shit and incompetent, not to mention extremely inflexible and bureaucratic.
Funny because a friend of mine said the same about Hong Kong after a recent visit. It wasn't always like this, but then Mainland Chinese tend to change the systems wherever they go in large numbers.

All the British soil yes, but all the British people left. Just filthy Chinese squatters left there now.

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SHAMEFUR DISPRAY!
I SHARR COMMIT SUDOKU

>Being this salty about being cucked by the eternal anglo.

if you can harness all that poo you could conquer the world my friend.

India had a huge headstart and wasted it all before 1980. India is a worthless shithole. braindrained to death. You would need a cultural revolution to even dream of surpassing china.

>Funny because a friend of mine said the same about Hong Kong after a recent visit.

well your friend is a tit sucking mommies boy.

if Hong Kong is shit and incompetent then he must've never been to a proper shithole like India.

>you had 50 years when you were wealthier than china

bullshit, The british overlords looted all our wealth when they left. Our treasury was wiped clean. When the british conquered, India's GDP was 27% of the entire world, one of the wealthiest of all. When they left, it was down to 3%. The queen still has our diamonds ffs. Here's a little interesting fact, India got involved with the Bangladesh-Pakistan war 1971 BECAUSE we couldn't afford to take in refugees that were pouring in, in millions from the east. Things wouldn't have been different if we were wealthy nation at the time.

> china went through 2 world wars, a civil war, several minor wars, and decades of isolation and still came out on top

This applies to many nations, we all went through the world wars, directly or indirectly. And we had our own ethnic troubles and civil wars too. Communism just happened to be lot more effective than Democracy.

Yes it is, if the population is YOUNG. India's has the most 19-35 population of men in the world. Where and why do you think the US is getting its best engineers and scientist?

nah, some nukes I can see, when someone chimps out in kashmir or therelike. But not to the degree that Asia would be permanently set back

Its funny because the Aussie wrote in their constitution that NZ can join whenever and they couldn't say no.

So if the worst happens, we'll put our money offshore, join and bleed them dry through welfare. Once we did that, we could leave, just like Scotland wants to.

>if you can harness all that poo you could conquer the world my friend


Their POOwer levels are off the chart.

You should have sterilized them prematurely, like good Sanjay Gandhi planned

Why would you do that to a fellow Anglo country?

Enormous Population in itself is a problem.
Casteism and finally corrupt politicians. When state come around its all about catering to different castes, minorities and muslims for what. So you can see how difficult it is.

Never. All your brainpower (what little there is) left for the West.

Even if all that brainpower returned to India, your country would still be shit.

This post is totally correct. The world would be a better place if Asia just disappeared.

Or a "cultural revolution" like China.

>Democracy isn't something one can "turn off/on" just like that, user. It requires institutions built over decades or even centuries.

Good answer. It's why democracy has been effective in North America and Europe, and falls apart in Africa, South America, and Asia.

Nukes nah,we are so packed here that a fucking biplane crash will kill 100.

Nukes are like last resort,we want the land of Pakistan clean,not with Jamal legs and hands all over it.

Cause they lost to emus which is embarrassing.

They only leave the door open because NZ is the only one with giant eagles able to kill emus.

1. No
2. Poo in loo
3. The only way India can threaten another country is through contamination of everything connected to the Ganges. There isn't a single thing that India produces that anyone "needs" other than outsourcing telemarketing and tech support.

Good points, m8. Maybe send over some Steve Irwins as bait.

No, he said he has been to Hong Kong multiple times. It was all OK before the handover and even in the years immediately after that. However, the last 5 years have been bad.

My friend was outside a shop and this woman (possibly from the Mainland) took off her baby's shorts and let the baby shit in a storm water drain.

I don't see your future any different,the gooks and abbos will shit while you become minority.

this x1000
sorry jesus

It is possible only because India has much better geography. India will control trade through the Indian Ocean. China will try to pop up client states in Burma and put the Strait of Singapore under its command, but they're unlikely to venture into directly controlling the Indian Ocean, unless they go ahead and outright anschluss Burma. India also has a stupid amount of arable land, which is where you poo.

China has shit geography. It's the reason they have always continuously raped by Mongols and Manchus, even in their glorious "middle kingdom" period. There's this mythology that China was some peace-loving non-colonial power, but in reality they were rendered impotent by their fucking geography.

That said, maybe global warming will turn India into a new Arabian peninsula, in which case you're fucked.

I'm actually Norn Irish. No other cunt wants to live there, not even us.

Bullshit, if the EU was not as fucking cucked as fining countries such as your own for not volenteering to get enriched by "refugees" more Americans would support it.

>all the asian bantz in this thread

ARR ROOK SAME

>There isn't a single thing that India produces that anyone "needs"

That applies to most countries really, as for as essentials go. What exactly does germany produce that you really need? Cars? What does South Korea produce that you really need? smartphones? These are not essentials. Oil is essential, Drugs and medicine are essentials, Arms and aircrafts are essential etc.. Only few countries classify for those.

>What exactly does germany produce that you really need? Cars? What does South Korea produce that you really need? smartphones?

Its not like you mentioned countries with some of the most advanced and diverse industry and R&D institutes, poobrain.

Caste system is not the problem appeasement and shitty govt and large population of abbo people.

Upper caste have better genes and perform well than abbos.

Lower caste are blacks of India deal with it.

The problem is the type of people we have here,slum people and Muslim are vote bank and they are provided with govt subsidies and shit,you get Rs 6000 to breed.

Local politicians are criminal like,law and order is shit.

The people you see in US are middle class folks who can't do shit and ran away.

trust me don't base an average Indian peraona with those in California.

visit r/indianpeoplefacebook to see a glimpse of an average Indian.

Indian Ocean is a big fucking Ocean though. Controlling that is not the same as controlling some neighbourhood seas. Potential is there in the long term though.

As for China, I never understood why China and Russia don't have a strong alliance considering their core ideology, history, common enemy and all. Together they can be a true threat to US and China can easily overcome their geographical limitations. Russia is rich in oil, so China can bypass middle east as well with this. Instead, Chinese are trying to subtly bully Russia like they are with Japan and S.Korea.

Keep at it, and someday your manure based economy will shiterocket.

>Upper caste have better genes and perform well than abbos.

That's a myth. Large percentage of West Bengal, Rajasthan, Bihar population are all traditionally upper caste people and they are some of the worst in India. Totally uneducated, unskilled and hate each other.

South Indians are far more productive and closely tied together culturally.

Check the pic, South wipes the floor in terms of productivity. Tamil Nadu has the largest percentage of schedule castes or dalits, and they are no.2 in terms of GDP.

>that applies to most countries
>most countries don't delude themselves into thinking they're relevant
Your question is about India economically surpassing the slave labour powerhouse of the world. Even if you enslaved Indians and made them work in Chinese conditions you will find your organisation falling apart mainly due to:
1. Indians on average have much lower IQ
2. India cannot into sanitation
3. Low skill, inept and tend to be corrupt

There is a reason Indians are stereotyped taxi drivers, petrol station attendants, and tech support--because you can't produce anything of value and are only used as a spare set of hands.

>Europe

Actually Europe has had a turbulent history with multiple internal wars before the dust settled and a true union emerged. Democracy in Europe has taken a longass time for it to become truly functional and productive. Its just been 70 years since our freedom from the british, so its not like it isn't similar.

Not all of Europe, I suppose, but democracy has old foundations in Britain, France, and the Netherlands. Even in America, we had a functioning democracy before independence.

> 1. Indians on average have much lower IQ

Than the Chinese? Really? I call bullshit.

> 2. India cannot into sanitation

pfft, this meme has way run its course. Not even funny anymore.

3. Low skill, inept and tend to be corrupt

Low skill, inept is due to bad managing, where being corrupt adds to the problem I admit. But like I said, India has the biggest 19-34 workforce that just needs to exploited efficiently. Even the Chinese population is an aging one.