My sibling just came out as transgender. I'm sorry if this isn't the right place for this but I need your help...

My sibling just came out as transgender. I'm sorry if this isn't the right place for this but I need your help. I love them and I want to help them. But I feel like being supportive of them going through the "gender reassignment" process would be detrimental to their long term health. What the fuck do I do? How do I stop this without making them hate me? Is trying to stop it even the right coarse of action?

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WHO IS THIS GIRL. I fapped to a great 20 min vid of her once where she got like fondle-massaged. But I can't remember her name.

Marina something?

2mg of Pimozide a day takes the gay away

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Here's the redpill the bigots wont tell ya on Sup Forums friend. Transgenderism is a mental illness. And the current most effective treatment for it is gender reassignment surgery. Why do you think Iran, while being one of the most homophobic nations in the world, has one of the highest sex change rates? It's because they recognize the best way to cure transgender people of illness is a gender reassignment surgery.

Marina Nagasawa... I think.

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when chromosomal reassignment surgery is a thing, come talk

They also force gay people secure in their gender identity to have a sex change.

>hey dad
>yes son
>I'm a girl now
>prove it

You know those are forced on gay guys who don't want to be women, right?

See

kill them, your father, your mother, any other siblings, then burn your home to the ground and live innawoods

Rape them in the ass hard and brutally.

Ears are fucked up but oddly very cute.

>wisdom from the mountain jew

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What does that have to do with anything? Im saying currently the best treatment for the mental illness is that surgery.
Just like how drugs are pushed upon anyone to fix any perceived illness. The fact they fall for it themselves just means theyre dumb betas who can't stand up for what is best for them or what they want.

It does not cure it. The suicide rate is the same before and after surgery.

youtube.com/watch?v=_WKcgR1YLs0

Thats why I say current most effective treatment. Are you trying to make an argument? currently youre adding nothing to the conversation.

>tfw no transgender siblings
>I am the most feminine out of my other siblings

Should I take the leap and become a trap?

>making them hate me?
Who cares what they think about you. Do everything to stop them.

Prepare the noose for it for after 2 years it will realize the mistake it had took.

just tell them up front that is a life changing irreversible medical procedure they want to have and they need to talk to a psychologist first, then lowkey find a shrink who will talk them out of it

Should take the leap and kill yourself

Well you already failed as a sibling. Your brother/sister is obviously very sick, treat it as such. Most trannies kill themselves eventually.

>them
It's either HE or SHE.
Anyhting in between is mental retardation.
Take "them" to a specialist before it's too late.

If your sibling is not willing to go freely,
remind "them" that most transgenders are VERY unhappy,
and end up committing suicide before their 30ies.

There are stats to prove that.
Just look them up.

How will reminding them of these facts not make them transgender? Its a mental illness, they don't choose to have it. If anything reminding you of these facts will just make them more suicidal.

Tell them to go see a psychotherapist who can help them actually accept who they are.

Gender reassignment does not work. People will never see them as the opposite gender, and rightfully so. If they get the operation, chances are they'll kill themselves.

Your sibling is mentally ill. Get him the help he needs

They have already been seeing a therapist and I believe the therapist is the one that suggested it. And to be clear I'm talking about hormone replacement right now, not the surgery.

We do not live together and they started this before I knew.

Depends on wether if its a fetish trannie or a mentally sick trannie

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men... For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.
Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.

Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.

>they need to repent Not for being gay/trans whatever, but for all of their life's sins

They have medical experts giving them the correct advice? Why do you object? Have you cared to even do some in depth research yourself? Do you only object because youre bigoted?

>Leap
You're already a trap, all that's missing are panties, longer hair a homosexual bull

If trying to show them the correct path feels wrong and "not your place," don't insult them over it. Dont even mention it. Pink elephant that shit. My oldest friend's little brother started that path and we just don't say anything about it. This isn't the most Sup Forums advice I can give, but introvert here so fuck talking about that shit

What do 2k year old fairy tales have to do with anything? You aren't giving sound advice at all. Infact it appears you give none.

>My sibling just came out as transgender
>I love them
?

Faggot.

>my sibling
>I love them
>help them
>supportive of them
>their long term health
>making them
Is it a woman or a man you stupid bitch? It is not them it is he or she unless you have a dick fucking your brain right now.

There was something about a drug or hormone treatment on here one time and how they were ignoring it in favor of the sex change. Sorry I can't remember more.

People can use whatever pronouns they want hue, Obviously OP just wants to keep their identity as anonymous as possible.

This is probably bait but I'm going to respond anyway. I'm not bigoted. I am obviously asking about how to help them. From what I have read and seen they are going to remain depressed and quiet possibly commit suicide further down the line. Additionally not all advice provided by medical experts is infallible. We used to have rlectroshock therapy. I'm simply looking for seeking advice and opinions from a collection of people in an attempt to save my family member's life and future. Fuck off.

>People can use whatever pronouns they want
Get out.

>Transgenderism is a mental illness.
Thats not a redpill its actually pretty much common knowledge outside of sjw liberals. You literally have to see a shrink for atleast a year and get a prescription BECAUSE it is a mental ilness. Thats the entire reason for taking hormones in the first place, to help alleviate the symptoms of the mental ilness called gender dyshphoria. Pretty much the entire medical community knows this.

>best way to cure transgender people of illness is a gender reassignment surgery.

Now this is 100% plain false. There is no cure for gender dysphoria at all, but the best way to alleviate the symptoms is to take hormonal replacement therapy and too see a decent psychologist. The surgery DOES NOT WORK FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE and its the reason why trans suicide rates are still so high after transitioning along with some other key problems.

No, the surgery is a complete farce performed by greedy plastic surgeons who forge fake studies and documents that arent peer reviewed to say that their surgeries produce real vaginas so the emotionally unstable and desperate trannies will pay like $30k a pop for it. The vast majority of those who get it will end up regretting it when they realize all they have is a mutilated penis and a very fake vagina.

Ask them why they want to transition.
If the answer is
>I'm not comfortable with my sex
or
>I feel more feminine/manly
then it is not the gender they are having troubles with, but their image in this society.

It is a mental ilness. That is correct.
And what to you do with ilnesses? You treat them, not try to get used to them.

Going trans is treating only one symptom, not the root of the ilness itself.

If they are unhappy with themselves now, they will be unhappy later too. Probably even more so.
They see themselves a a freak of sorts, I assume, well after transition, it will be EVERYONE who does, not just you sibling alone.

So the feeling of not belinging will be even worse than before.

>effective
>makes 0 difference

ok

You can't change your Chromosomes so you can't change your sex. These idiots are delusional and mentally sick.

>Bible says societies that dump God will be given over to sexual deviancy and confusion
>Western world dumps Christianity
>Western world becomes increasingly sexually deviant and confused
>Bible says all who repent and turn from their sin will be cleansed and made righteous

Sure, I'm not offering anything of use when I tell people the only way in which both individuals and society can reverse this homosexual/trans confusion trend we're experiencing.

Typing this shit from my phone right now so sorry for all these shitty typos and grammatical errors

Talk to them and remain calm.
Explain why transgenerism is degenerate and a result of leftist indoctrination.
Back your arguments with science.
Advise them to get psychological help.
If that all doesn't work then just cut all ties and let them drown. They can't be saved then.

Be honest with them and come from a place where you want what's best for them instead of simply judging them. That's all you can do. If they're going to hate you because they're crazy that's just going to happen, you did your best. Also you should make sure you have a coherent argument and can defend your points before you sit them down.

>result of leftist indoctrination
No, fake trannies who only like to pretend they are trans for virtue signalling are a result of leftist indoctrination. Real trannies have a fucked up mental ilness that results in a VERY LARGE number of them killing themselves. If it wasnt a real thing there wouldnt be so many suicides.

Statistics show that even after any and all "reassignment" surgery transgenders are not "happy". They have higher rates of depression, higher rates of suicide, higher rates of bipolar disorder etc. etc.

There is no "cure" for it because the DSMIV/V doesn't recognize it as a mental illness. Treatment consists of fighting the surrounding anxieties and depressions that usually go hand in hand with gender dysphoria. Sometimes this means hormone therapy, other times it "reguires" gender reassignment therapy to help the person out of the stressfull situation.

Now you can argue the long and short of it, tinfoil arguments about bigpharma pushing transgender agenda for its multibillion hormone industry and jews controlling the DSM, it being degenerate etc., none of that matters because here is the crux of the problem:

Even if we for some reason did decide to see it as a mental illness, what then? We have no cure for it, no treatment, there is no magic pill that can make a person feel like the opposite gender, no brain surgery we know of that can do that. We couldn't "get rid" of it if we wanted to, not with our current knowledge. So if we did tackle the problem like this it would often boil down to having the patient talk to psychologists about the issues while maybe partaking in clinical trials and basically experiments to normalize the gender perception.
Of course now the argument is about whether that might be preferable over gender reassignment surgeries and hormone therapies which often leave the patient as miserable or even more so than before. The general societal consensus to that seems to be "no that isn't preferable", so we treat them with hormones and sex changes so they can hopefully get deal with their anxieties and depression and become functioning members of society.

All that being said I know your sibling doesn't suffer from gender dysphoria and I hate your roleplaying faggot ass.

True to the mythos, Switzer has guns but zero bullets.

>Statistics show that even after any and all "reassignment" surgery transgenders are not "happy". They have higher rates of depression, higher rates of suicide, higher rates of bipolar disorder etc. etc.
see

Gender reassignment does literally nothing for these people.
Roughly the same amount of these people kill themselves after the operation as before. Encourage them to seek treatment, talk thorugh it, etc. hrt and surgery should be absolutely last resort. Also explaining that mutilating your penis/vagina does not actually give you the organs of the opposite sex.

True but like 95% percent of trannies are the attentionwhoring leftists virtue signalling mongoloid deviants.
These need to be killed.
The real trannies need to be treated by a shrink (and not some idiotic shirk who says gender is a spectrum and turns them into the above category).

You want to help them? Then let them make their own choices and be a supporting loving family member regardless of any mistakes you perceive they may make.
Not an argument
0 difference rate in suicide? sure I dont know the statistics. Thats not what I'm arguing though. Are you literate? I say most effective treatment. Does that mean suicide rate is decreased or increased? Well lets read the statements shall we? Hmm it doesn't mention suicide at all does it? Almost like Im saying there are multiple different factors determining whether or not it is the best modern treatment.

Addendum I meant the drug or hormone therapy made them feel normal. Something about them trying ti for 30 days and feeling better and then going off of it made them go right back to being gender confused.

Please tell me that you are just trolling and not as retarded as you played yourself to be thread.

>The real trannies need to be treated by a shrink (and not some idiotic shirk who says gender is a spectrum and turns them into the above category).
I saw probably 4-5 shrinks over the course of about 6 years, only one of which who thought i was trans. Did it help? One of them really did.

I went from pretty much emotionally dead and extremely depressed to somewhat able to function in society, but even after trying 4 different anti depressants and ssri's the ONLY thing that made me not suicidal and extremely depressed about myself was hormones. And i know worked becuase i was feeling happier and less depressed within the first few days, way before any of the physical changes. I gurantee i would have killed myself by now without them.

Did they fix all my problems? Nope, i still have insane anxiety. But atleast im still alive and able to function in society relatively well. Looking like a cute girl doesnt hurt either

A retard trying to call someone else retarded? Ill just ignore your comment.

Can you guys post some research and articles from UNBIASED (be it left or right) sites to help me? I don't know what sources to trust.

Good for you.
I guess you are the 5% who have a mutation that causes their hormones to act up.
As long as you don't start telling people that that gender is on a spectrum and that you just are the gender you feel like that day then we are good.
Hope you'll find happiness one day.

>there is no magic pill that can make a person feel like the opposite gender
False. A pharmaceutical cure for gender dysphoria actually exists: pimozide.

Seeking information from an inherently biased forum probably isn't the wisest thing

Everyone will probably coddle them, and once they realize it was dumb to do so they won't have anywhere to go. Be that person that your sibling can go to when ((("""they"""))) realize that he/she just has a normalized fetish.

>Ill just ignore your comment.
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>As long as you don't start telling people that that gender is on a spectrum
No im still legally male. My parents still call me he but most of my freinds and my gf call me she. There is only he and she, everything else is sjw nonsense.

I dont even care if im legally male the rest of my life as long as im around to live it. Sure makes getting a job awkward sometimes tho

>Looking like a cute girl
I can tell that you are the only one who thinks that.
People are accepting you only because they don't want to be a "bigot",
or simply have never even thought about life/existance in general.

You will never be a woman.
You are a freak.

>can't tell when someone is memeing
no wonder geert got cucked

I was waiting for someone to post this.

You do realize that "case study" was only about ONE SINGLE PERSON who wasnt actually a tranny but a person with borderline personality disorder and a crossdressing fetish? Did you even read it before posting?

ONE
SINGLE
PERSON

Yes, we are on the same page. It is sort of sad really, these people are often not getting the help they need at all.

"Oh this guy thinks he is a woman? Well lets remove his male genitals and reproductive organs and replace it with faux female genitals and he will be A-Ok. Clearly what happened here is that a biological girl was born with horrible bodily disfigurement that caused her vagina/uterus/falopian tubes/ovaries to become a penis&co. It can't possibly be a something in the brain to causing this mismatch in biological reality and psychologial perception of the gender. We treat every other identity disorder as a mental illness, but not this one, this one is special."

>I can tell that you are the only one who thinks that.
the amount of people i had watching me on chaturbate when i used to cam says otherwise. Not to mention the fact when i take the c-train i get catcalls or stairs from dudes from time to time.

But i dont need to justify myself to you because you're just a bad troll whos upset someone isnt as depressed and bitter as they are. I know im not a woman, i never said i was. I literally said in my last post i dont care if im legally male for the rest of my life.

You should spend less time being so triggered and learn some basic reading comprehension.

>fapping to shemale porn
>some lanklet dude is being fucked in the ass by some buffed bald dude
>things are going fine then suddenly he opens his mouth and starts moaning in that nasally guy's "totally a girl" voice "oh yeah fuck that pu.. i mean ass yeah fuck it yeah uuugh yeah"

boner kill

Actually, the study you're thinking of was conducted only after pimozide was discovered to incidentally suppress gender dysphoria as a side effect on a patient in another, larger study. It's happened multiple times.

holy shit imagine being this bad at arguing, how do you function

>implying I voted for Wilders

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>in another, larger study. It's happened multiple times
The fact you didnt post this alleged "study" is extremly telling that you are just talking out of your ass.

Every forum or group of people has some form of inherent bias. It sounds silly and is a little sad to say this but Sup Forums feels like my only shot at getting a good answer. Even if it's just one person who is being reasonable it's a lot better than what I'd get elsewhere.

Do you like being a fetish, and NOT a person?
Because the porn wathcing degenerates view you a mere object.

You are a symptom of a decaying society. Nothing more.

Find some statistics showing transgender people are still miserable after surgeries and kill themselves in record numbers. Tell him that whatever void he is trying to fill will still exist after he becomes something that isn't quite a man and isn't quite a woman either

kill it

>you a
you *as* a

>And the current most effective treatment for it is gender reassignment surgery.

Much like the most effective treatment for anorexia is liposuction; or for schizophrenia is to listen to the voices.

If you are not feminine lookin or Asian there is no point in becoming a girl you will just be much uglier

>Do you like being a fetish, and NOT a person?
No which is why i dont go anywhere near guys who only see me as a fetish. Its one of the reasons i dont even date men anymore.

>You are a symptom of a decaying society. Nothing more.
I wanted to transition before i realized i could be popular doing it, nice try tho hun.

Ad hominen instead of a rebuttal or counter argument. Holy shit imagine someone being that bad at arguing, how do you function?

>tfw when I view most people as a mere objects that may or may not be used in some way to improve my life.
Personally I believe I, with that sort of thinking, am the symptom of a decaying society. Complete apathy, can't make myself care anymore than I can sprout wings.

>as a mere objects that may or may not be used in some way to improve my life.
This sounds more like sociopathy than anything else desu

Best you can do is to encourage them to not go through with the surgery so they can make sure it's not a phase. Too many people act on impulses of how they feel at a certain time and realise a few years later they've made a grave mistake

Maybe, not discontent or non functioning, so I don't have a problem with it.

The west has been decaying ever since WW2 ended.
This already was festering within the society,
simply back then the likes of you were simply locked up in the correct facilities.
Also, there was no internet, that means that there was no way to be the extremely vocal minority that you are now.

One should view the society as something to be contributed to, not leeched from.
This extreme individualism will be the end of us all.

Read this to your family:

acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/gender-ideology-harms-children

>What the fuck do I do? How do I stop this without making them hate me? Is trying to stop it even the right coarse of action?

Just tell them the truth about "gender reassignment surgery"; it's a fraud. They can't actually change someone's gender, they simply use cosmetic surgery to turn someone into a BAD SIMULATION of the opposite gender. Once it's done, they can't be changed bad, as the surgery causes permanent irreparable damage to their bodies.

Smother it with a pillow while it's sleeping. That'll cure the confusion in it.