Why is western civilisation collapsing?

Why is western civilisation collapsing?

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Negligence about the Jewish Question.

Jews are taking revenge for the shoah.

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because they felt like in control

>Revenge for fiction

Its people have taken it for granted

No strong Jewish leadership

Because of adaptation of anglo saxon idiocity

>Sexual Revolution
>No-fault Divorce
>Unsustainable economic growth requiring replacement migration
>Stagnating wages v. Increased cost of living
>Christianity waning (Believe what you want, the church needs to exist as a cultural regulatory agency. We've torn it down, and thus far, have only replaced the "origin story" part of it).
>Cession of sovereignty to supranational bodies & international organizations, 1% buying disproportionate influence in Government, expanding bureaucracy in Government all making Governments less susceptible to democratic change and unable/unwilling to fix problems.
>Shifting economy that has left many behind, and dampened prospects from the West (Industrialized manufacturing economy to Post-industrial service economy)
>Celebration of aberrant lifestyles coming from the entertainment industry and academia

Women and their illogical emotion based imitation of the thinking mechanism.

Not enough ovens.

b u m p

The banks are crashing this plane with no survivors

Because it's full of white men and white men are children of chaos.

babyboomers betrayed us

Bretty gud summary

Because you're Kuffar

Jews

Immigrants.

They expect one of the races in the wreckage, brother.

It's real in their minds.

>haha we blame everyone except ourself.
to be fair we inherited that mess but its not like people on here are actively something doing against it.

I've given up all hope. There's absolutely nothing that can be done.

The only thing that saves us is a massive economic collapse (Greater than or equal to the Great Depression), which might spur radical political action.

Beyond that, if demography doesn't fuck us, corporations and the sexual revolution will.

Because the devil wants it.

Centralization

Liberalism, egalitarism, secularism, all excretions of the (((Enlightment))).

It's not. Your own life is and you're making a fundamental misatribution.

White guilt
Its the reason Europe is now being overflown with rapefugees

>implying its the millennial's job to fix what the boomers broke

how about you pay me 6 digits faggot?

niggers and democrats.......

if not us who will?

The jews that are behind everything. Why do you think they have been kicked out for 109 times? Their hosts are aware of the enemy, the real enemy. We will fall like Rome, I see that now.

white men have nothing to do with this

>Why is western civilisation collapsing?
That's what the Kremlin keeps trying to say, but Russia is probably the only country in the world still in a recession

I'm glad it's fucking dying.

The jew was characterized by his international presence and influence.
Remind you of somebody?

Law represents morals; morals are based on human relationships; human relationships are influenced by law.
It's circular.

This is why, with each decade, we're falling further from our original morals, and that's why we're becoming decadent and omnipresent. We're exporting western civilization to people who didn't want it in the first place, but now only want it because they are enslaved by it.

In Canada, I pay so many taxes, that I have to work otherwise I'm arrested and my property is taken away. I can't just live on my own, grow my own food, and fish for myself, even though I'm capable of doing all of that RIGHT NOW. Rather than work 12 hours a day for 6 or 7 days a week, I only have to work a few hours a day once a week to sustain myself. I'm not allowed to sustain myself. I am forced to work for immigrants, and people who live hudnreds of miles away, and I have to work for them because they are "Canadian" too.

There are no walls, no borders. Theoretically, any country is within reach if I have enough money, even North Korea. I find that very disturbing.

Western civilization is disturbing. It needs to end.

>Implying Russia is a civilized society
Russia is by far the most degenerate of all the developed nations

*Most women in pornography
*Shortest lifespan for men
*Institutional alcoholism
*Russian mafia human trafficking white girls to Islamic countries
*Krokodil epidemic, 10,000 new addicts per year, 5000 die
*Shit tier living conditions for most of country outside Moscow
*Shit tier living conditions for most of Moscow
*Former KGB assassin is country's Kleptocrat-in-chief
*Shit tier Putinbots on Sup Forums posting 10,000 thread per day, "pwoofs, pwoofs".

The Kremlin has a "West is degenerate" disinformation campaign going on right now and Russian trolls a getting 5 kopecks for every shill thread and 1 kopeck for every (You) reply.

>claim freedom of speech is your highest ideal
>restrict speech because you're afraid an art student will call you a racist
Because we don't defend it.

nobody.

it's no ones job. it's a thankless job. it's a shitty job, its not anyone's obligation to "save white race" or anything.

You merely adopted the collapse. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the recovery until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but quantitative easing.

>original morals

b-but morals are subjective! I think I have higher moral high ground than you.

post modernity ideas injected the gommie virus masked as counter culture. The absolute lack of values stated previously by Nietzsche, and the total and absolute lack of active forces to the ascension of the Übermensch is making us drown in complete nihilism. The state, the materialism and any other crunch invented by either science or communists will never be enough to cover the huge crater created by the death of god. We can go to space, but we lost the social technology that teaches us the best practices to live in community.

Don't associate a proto-marxist like Rousseau with the incarnation of the XVIIIth century that Voltaire is.

the real reason i'm ashamed of being a white male

This is preparation for enacting humiliation. First the enemy must be neutralised in order to minimise backlash.

Because we forgot God. That is literally it. History has warned us, and warned us.

A culture needs a common moral & theological structure. We need agreed-upon definitions of "right," "wrong," and "normal." Some individuals might be comfortable with moral relativism, but the larger organisms of family & society can't handle it. We need common rules.

Without that backbone, society collapses into endless division and in-fighting. Nobody can agree on anything, even the idea of a "fact" has lost weight and meaning.

What does Russia have to do with my post? Yeah, they have their own problems. They're better than us on some fronts, but not many. They're largely stuck in the same boat we are.

Take off the patriot goggles and realize that America has been on the wrong course since the 1960s.

This is a good point, people think they are free but just go and try living a self sustaining life in nature and the government will imprison you for either squatting on crown land or not having the money to pay your property taxes

>This is why, with each decade, we're falling further from our original morals,
There are no "original morals". For as long as modern men have lived together in communities, the members have had to contribute to keep the society intact.

>In Canada, I pay so many taxes, that I have to work otherwise I'm arrested and my property is taken away. I can't just live on my own, grow my own food, and fish for myself, even though I'm capable of doing all of that RIGHT NOW.
Of course, because the government is who recognizes and protects your land ownership rights. Without a government, a gang of Ted Bundys could march up to your door, kill you and take over "your" property.

>I'm not allowed to sustain myself.
You're stupid or you're playing the special snowflake victim card, right? Maybe both.

> I am forced to work for immigrants, and people who live hudnreds of miles away, and I have to work for them because they are "Canadian" too.
Move to where there are no taxes, then.

>Western civilization is disturbing. It needs to end.
Just because you're mentally ill doesn't mean our well functioning system has to change even a little bit.

>Just because you're mentally ill doesn't mean our well functioning system has to change even a little bit.

>well functioning

Are you fucking memeing? It doesn't matter whether you're left or right on economics, our current system is dismal.

>What does Russia have to do with my post? Yeah, they have their own problems. They're better than us on some fronts, but not many. They're largely stuck in the same boat we are.

They're the ones brainwashing Sup Forumstards with thousand of "West is degenerate" threads ever day. Looks like your one of the anons who fell for it. Welp, it's too late for you, but maybe others with critical thinking skills can be reasoned with.

t. Patriot trying to save my fellow Americans.

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>our current system is dismal.
No it isn't. 65% of Americans own their own homes. 95% are employed or wealthy enough to choose not to work. 90% have high school diplomas. The only thing that's a disaster is our for-profit healthcare that keeps hiking rices for no apparent reason.

We're in great shape, actually. So it must be you.

Because of women

heathens, faggots, militant atheists, feminists, socialism, greed, and apathy. O and the emasculated state of men (feminism is to blame for that).

>The absolute lack of values stated previously by Nietzsche,
You've never read a single word he ever wrote, have you?

How is the West not degenerate? Are you seriously going to state that the Sexual Revolution is fine?

White Americans are on-track to becoming a minority in their own country, millenials are getting fucked with shitty job prospects, the cost of living is going up while wages are stagnating, etc.

>90% have High School diplomas
Which are now worthless. What a wonderful metric to look at you absolute moron.

Because we can't spell "Civilization" correctly.

That's how Brits spell it

Women, heathens, general apathy and hedonism

>65% of Americans own their own homes. 95% are employed or wealthy enough to choose not to work
all baby boomers. no millennial will own a house except in some rural part.

capped

>How is the West not degenerate?
The west is free and our governments are based on social contract and liberal democracy, which is the best system ever devised by man. In fact, your Russian Federation constitution is loosely based on ours.

>Are you seriously going to state that the Sexual Revolution is fine?
It's great. Consenting adults are free to live their lives as they choose, not as you demand. Your relative morality is highly immoral and unethical.

>White Americans are on-track to becoming a minority in their own country,
Why is that a problem? Didn't your ancestors you hire Jewish ships to bring minorities here by the boatloads? Then you bitched abut the Irish immigrants. Then you bitched about the Chinese immigrants. Then you bitched about the Mexicans, but your corporations are dangling jobs in front of them to pick our produce. If White Supremacist America is what you're all abut, you really fucked that up a long time ago.

And by the way, the first white settlements in America couldn't make it on their own. The ones that survived only did so because the natives helped them.

>millenials are getting fucked with shitty job prospects
That's capitalism getting more successful at squeezing more productivity out of fewer workers. And bringing in 100,000 immigrants per year on work visas. Like Trump does.

>the cost of living is going up while wages are stagnating, etc.
That's capitalism getting more successful at paying you less.

Capitalism needs regulation to keep it from being a moral hazard.

This guy gets it.

Failure of the simulacra. Mass insanity soon!

Despite what a lot of people here will tell you, it's not about (((them))), what (((they))) do or don't do. It's about you not taking responsibility and redpilling your loved ones and those close to you.
Merely whining about some conspiracy against you and your kin is just a fucking cop out, if you won't work to help your kin.

All fixable problems. None show collapse

too much bullshit is taken too seriously

>There are no "original morals".
Those are the original morals. Morals that benefited society. Families become tribe; tribes become clan; clans become kingdom. The system is built on a series of connected human relationships, those of which create what I call "Original morals", because they are the product of natural human relationships. Skip to 2017, we're forced to be inclusive; we're forced to live next to Muslims or Chinese or whatever; and if anyone has objections, well then they're a racist; we've created the idea of "racism", because we've made an artificial law that unites races together.

>Without a government, a gang of Ted Bundys could march up to your door, kill you and take over "your" property.
But that wouldn't happen. We're inclined to live to respect one another's desire to live. If there's a conflict, we don't compromise (like politics wants us to), we fight or defend ourselves. When you live in a small community, you get the feeling that you're working as one, and that is a self-correcting feature that state government doesn't have.

>Move to where there are no taxes, then.
See... Now I know why this message doesn't get to you. You can't grasp the concept of "honour". You have no people, no friends or family probably. You reduce yourself to Civic/ethnic nationalism, because you've never been truly validated in society enough. There is no honour in western society. It's a concept created by globalist interests. Yes, GLOBALIST interests.

You forgot

>Massive infiltration by the Muslim Brotherhood and OIC into all our political, military, and media agencies.
>Increased censorship laws being enacted from the previous Admin.
>The complete detachment from reality by 50% of the population.

We will have a holy war against Islamic Europe within 50 years, and a civil war in the next 10. Obama will come back like Lenin and rally the troops.

Get ready Freddy

>The west is free and our governments are based on social contract and liberal democracy, which is the best system ever devised by man. In fact, your Russian Federation constitution is loosely based on ours.

Why do you keep going on about Russia? They're in a shit situation, too. I freely acknowledge that and I'm not suggesting we copy them or anything they're doing. The Putin-love here is an absolute meme.

Also, liberal democracy mixed in with concepts like "natural rights" and "egalitarianism" is fucking trash.

>It's great. Consenting adults are free to live their lives as they choose, not as you demand. Your relative morality is highly immoral and unethical.

You're actually the one arguing relative morality here, you dumb faggot. There's more to factor in than freedom.

Casual sex is inherently degenerate, and sex should be kept within the confines of wedlock.

Previous partner count is predictive of likelihood to cheat, divorce, and report negative marital experiences/outcomes.

Objectively, there's an optimal way to order society. We're far from it.

>Don't blame immigration, it's the 1%
Yeah, I blame them too, don't worry.

>Complaints about Capitalism.

At this point, I'm further left than the Democratic Party on economic issues. They just drop the ball by pandering to minorities, and women.

>because they are the product of natural human relationships.
The "natural" system of survival is might=right. Killing any competitors for the resources. The Vikings couldn't grow enough of their own food, so their survival strategy was killing and stealing the stuff of others. This is immoral, not to mention, unsustainable.

>we've made an artificial law that unites races together.
We can work as a team or work against each other. The rapaciously selfish want us all to live like Vikings. They will perish the same way or learn to assimilate like the real Vikings did.

>When you live in a small community, you get the feeling that you're working as one, and that is a self-correcting feature that state government doesn't have
Communities are supposed to work together within the state. The States are supposed to work together within the country. You want to destroy all the for nothing more than personal greed? Move to Somalia and enjoy your libertarian paradise.

>You can't grasp the concept of "honour".
Welp, that certain is a non-sequitur.

>You have no people, no friends or family probably.
t. be me
-->big family,
-->volunteer in the community
-->2500 facebook friends
-->barbeques and pool parties every weekend
Yeah, I'm just like you.

>There is no honour in western society.
We are all moral men, We all have limits we will not cross. I killed other soldiers when I was in, but I will not kill a civilian now no matter how badly they need killing. Our morals are the common bond of our community, society and nation. It cannot be compromised unless we allow it.

>It's a concept created by globalist interests. Yes, GLOBALIST interests.
That's just what uneducated supremacists say because they've never taken even the most basic economics class in high school. Globalism is 100% economic.

Why does Trump import all his labor from foreign countries? Because "fuck Americans", he can make better profits exploiting foreigners.

It's not collapsing, it's being torn down by leftists. Long story short, the Enlightenment was a mistake.

What happens when it collapses? Does China become new Mongol empire and destroy Islam empire and Europe

>Natives helped them

"Red man put fish in ground.. Grow corn."

Because you're not venerating your father

Did you actually believe that individual liberty wouldn't liberate itself to death?

>You say we're on the brink of destruction and you're right. But it's only on the brink that people find the will to change. Only at the precipice do we evolve.
>youtube.com/watch?v=BP-pqhXvI7Y

>jews unironically believe this

>Casual sex is inherently degenerate
It's perfectly natural. Intelligently design, I would even say. I'm white, single, fit upper middle class and I like my girlfriends so fuck off basement-dwelling neckbeard.

>Previous partner count is predictive of likelihood to cheat, divorce, and report negative marital experiences/outcomes.
I have PTSD in addition to a few other issues, so I'm not the guy who gets married. But I have a right to live and choose just like you do.

>Also, liberal democracy mixed in with concepts like "natural rights" and "egalitarianism" is fucking trash.
Why shouldn't all men and women be seen the same by our government? I served with Mexicans and Blacks and even a few Muslims who I would gladly give my life for today because of their battlefield bravery - something you could probably never understand. But I hope you can at least synthesize this way of thinking because it makes the world - in your mind - a better place.

I see it like this. I know a few good Muslim guys. You probably do too even if you don;t realize it. Well so does mostly every white person in America. So there must be millions of good Muslims people. We shouldn't punish them for the chimp out or negative stereotype over a few we don't like. We should treat each person as though we met them just now and give them a fair shot. And if they fuck you over, have another kind of shot lined up.

>Men are sexual creatures
>Tells men to stop being sexual creatures
>They do
>Gets upset when men stop being sexual creatures
>Be sexual creatures again!

Feminist hypocrisy is the reason for any collapse of infrastructure. We can only keep denying biology for so long.

Becausr Hitler lost.

Fuck I'm lonelt.
Also, this user gets it.

Jordan "Sort Yourself Out and Venerate Your Father but Don't You Dare Criticize the Jews Goyim" Peterson, eh? I guess he really is Canadian

because of demography

Because you don't know what western civilization is.

>"Red man put fish in ground.. Grow corn."
My degree was in history before I enlisted. Now I have an aviation degree.

But let me tell you what I learned about the first settlers. They wouldn't eat shellfish. Millions of mollusks in the shoals waiting to be picked but their pastor warned them that it was against the Bible. They died because of religious dogma.

But there was a lot more too it. They were all indentured slaves, they owed too much to the company store, the ships refused to share the return provisions, etc.

You've heard there are no atheists in foxholes, my experience has been that no religious man ever crawls out of one alive after an intense firefight.

>Why is western civilisation collapsing?
IF you havent noticed, it's the mid-east whos in the deepest shit. Large parts of Africa is also pretty badly. Urkaine is the closest cunt to the west thats in trouble.

Overly empathetic towards outside 3rd word nations was our own undoing.

Easy.

Democracy is based on checks and balances.
Those checks and balances have been upset in the past but they eventually correct themselves because of other checks and people who are vocal from the educated elite

The enemies of western civilization know this and knows its strengths therefore understands its weaknesses.

So it attacked the intellectuals and experts, creating a distrust between it and the people. The people turned to the politicians as the beacon of hope, then the enemies of western civilization immediately began to attack the politicians, creating a distrust between it and the people through hyperpartisanship the people turned to the media as a beacon of hope, It immediately began to work on attacking the media creating a distrust between it and the people .


The people have been corralled away from any credited information and will now believe anything easily succumbing to logical fallacies. You turn on a firehose of disinformation and misinformation through social media and voila you have mass mind control.

Turn the people in on itself in on the elites in on the politicians, in on the businessmen and it's all going to collapse leaving authoritarian capitalist countries in the wake to reap benefits.

Jews obviously

>Why is western civilisation collapsing?

It isn't. It's never been more prosperous. You lazy NEETs just don't want to work hard to get a good job.

The days of slaving in a factory and a coal mine are over. It's time to get with the times.

Not to say that all should be trusted but all should be trusted to an EXTENT if they aren't then we can't work together.

So removing all trust is like removing the gears from an engine it no longer fires properly.

I agree that Russia is a complete shithole and an example of human beings failing miserably, but I still don't agree with what else you are saying.

Building and fixing is difficult, it takes real work. Destruction is easy, it requires nothing.

THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING I'M IN CHARGE HERE

fpbp

It's a democracy without religion problem.
People want more freedom, when there's no moral compass, like a christian moral, there's no stop on the demanding for more freedom until it all turns back into a tyranny to regain order.

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>but I still don't agree with what else you are saying.
I celebrate your freedom to disagree. That's why the "West" will always be superior and it will only be "degenerate" in the demented minds of Russians, lonely virgins and that 400 lb hacker guy, 4chin.

It's a democracy problem by lack of religious morale.
People want more freedom, when there's no moral compass, like a christian moral, there's no stop on the demanding for more freedom until it all turns back into a tyranny to regain order.

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