Did Trump want Paul Ryan gone all along, or only after the healthcare bill failed?

Did Trump want Paul Ryan gone all along, or only after the healthcare bill failed?

This seems to be some Game of Thrones type of shit to me.

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Disenfect with sunlight. Now everybody knows what a loser he is, not just autistic political junkies like us.

Because he is draining the swamp. Ryan larps as a lolbertarian yet he puts forth a dogshit bill that is basically gibs for the insurance companies.

Trump wanted Paul Nehlen to win over Paul Ryan. This is the reason why Breitbart was deployed full force against PRyan during the elections. The PRyan and the 'establishment' told Trump that in order for him to the RNC's backing, he had to endorse PRyan. So Trump did that and PRyan won narrowly.

Now Steve Bannon, Trump and Breitbart are doing everything to get rid of PRyan since they realize that he is going to be a hindrance. PRyan was played here by Trump during the RARO fiasco.

The sheer weeping Trumpcuck denial is actually the funniest part of the debacle.

The only one who wants Ryan gone is Bannon.
Bannon is in the doghouse for failing to bring the Freedom Caucus on board.

If this is game of thrones Bannon will go the way of Ned.
He is out of his league.

Probably Paul Ryan has proved over and over again he is a cuck and basically young John McCain.

DRAIN THE SWAMP

DRAIN THE SWAMP

Nope.

Shapiro Called this fucking weeks ago and all the way until now.

Trump doesn't even understand his own healthcare bill.
he memed it hard into vote.
When it started to crash and burn he planned to just blame it on Paul Ryan.

Paul Ryan looks like an ass after it flops.
Bannon giggles with glee.

Trumps next move, mark my words.

Will be either
A. Staying with obamacare.'
B. ramming through a new even shittier bill, that was co-written by democrats (mostly dems) just so republicans can save face.


Fuck the GOP.

Years and years telling people they'd repeal Obamacare.
they finally get in, what do they do? make it worse.

Fuck them.

Of course! That's it.
He deliberately massively failed to make a deal on something the whole republican party agreed they hated, threatened fellow republicans and had temper tantrums, managed to alienate and annoy people he needs, told bannon to made a revenge list, publicly backed a shit plan, and failed to repeal a law that he promised to repeal and replace on DAY 1, and his first attempt to do something meaningful.

What a genius.

Some of you Trump lovers are seriously
mentally deficient, so far he has failed at everything.

Shapiro is on neocon damage control mode? Who could have seen that coming...

>be responsible for writing legislature
>campaign for 7 years you want to fix Obamacare
>Trump gets you all 3 fronts despite all odds
>you still fuck up the bill

Trumps a democrat in disguise.
but it's not entirely his fault.

the only Rep with a set of balls on Obamacare is fucking Ted Cruz.

Ted fucking Cruz.

Jesus christ Trump, you had the entire right-wing population behind the idea of repealing Obamacare, why did you make something worse, then meme it into reality?

His low grade healthcare, was just as bad as his low grade steaks.

Ted Cruz is a fucking whip like the rest of you cucks

No, he largely hates the GOP.

liars and cheats for exactly what you just said.

They don't have a spine to take the popularity hit temporarily to do what's needed.
Meanwhile they jerk off Reagan, a guy who actuallyyy did what's needed.

Shapiro pointed out Trump wont take the fall.
Ryan will.

the GOP will.

Trump will act like he was barely involved, do a big twitter bitch fest.
and then play the issue out of the public sphere, so people sit on obamacare for 4 years.

For god sakes spaz.. It's been 60 days..

t. ahmed

>For god sakes spaz.. It's been 60 days..

At this rate he'll flame out in the first year. Or resign from the TOTALLY FAKE NEWS GUYS Russia investigation.

>Trump in office 60 days
>Congressmen whining about Obamacare for almost 8 years
>Trump turns them loose to fix it
>RINO Ryan immediately works to help his Insurance Corporation Masters
>RINO Ryan once again ignores votes
>Liberals think Trump will take the fall after voters bitching about RINOs and dumping Jeb!

This falls on Ryan....he needs to go

Russia investigation is fucking nothing.

there's absolutely nothing there.

the bigger story, which no one gives a fuck about, especially leftists.

is the FBI (probably comey) leaking classified material with unmasked U.S citizens information on it.

Only person resigning will be Comey for either, illegal leaks.
or not investigating leaks within the agency.

>Trump will act like he was barely involved

Do you honestly think Trump wrote this crap? This is classic Paul Ryan sucking insurance cock and yes he should take the fall for not being able to lead the house.

>Trump tries to repeal Obamacare like he said he would
>blocked by dems and cuckservatives (ie: washington establishment)
>'victory for the american ppl' say the dems
>everyone still stuck with shitty plans that continue to get worse
>trump gains even more power after mid terms
the winning is only just beginning

You should love Trump. He opposed the invasion of your country in 2003.

I just fucking said Trump doesn't understand the bill.

but he's the cunt who campaigned on repeal and *REPLACE*.

he is fundamentally the slave driver.
if he had campaigned on REPEAL only, this bill could EASILY fall on Ryan.

Trump will do massive back-peddle and dump ALL blame on Ryan.

It's called "adversity" and every president has faced it, perhaps not at this level.. But.. It's not like there's Arabs driving cars into peop--

Too soon?

Paul Ryan was elected to his position by his colleagues by a near-unanimous vote like 6 months ago.

It's going to take a whole hell of a lot more than that to get them to turn on him.

Hell, everyone forgets it's not just Ryan, nearly all of congress hates Trump.

The truth is revealed: Jeb was pulling the strings from the shadows all along.

this is fantasy.

leftists democrats aren't affected by Obamacare.

They're all middle class and rich ivy league college faggots, they all have private insurance on daddies dime.

only poor niggers and spics will suffer, but dems just promise them more 'gibs' and they keep voting for em.

simple.

The health care bill was a test to prove his loyalty. Ryan failed.

>mfw Trump and Ryan got cucked hard by their own political party

>Tank your credibility as president
>turn your party against you even more
>American conservatives start hating you 'cause you lied

Oh ya, great loyalty test.

Trump hates Ryan because Ryan is a cuckservative faggot who is ruining this country.

poor poor dickface

I've seen posts for a while now about a certain thing and everythig seems to be falling into place. The healthcare bill was not do or die. If do, good, if die, off with Ryan's head (which he made very clear with promoting Judge Pirro's show yesterday). Another point that anons have pointed out is with the rallies every 2 weeks.
This was a blow in public appearance, though not permanent. Trump is shaping up his public appearance as a bold American that never loses and is always right at the end. I believe that if he makes gains after midterms, something big (that's going to need a lot of nationwide support) is going to happen concerning domestic policy.

Paul Ryan is a puppet and a parasite, nobody ever liked him.

The mental gymnastics Trump shills are pulling in this thread

WEW

Wow, rude

Spent the whole thread criticizing Trump
>shill.

How does it feel to be a useless faggot?

use more buzzwords next time.

Dick sucking, BBC loving, JUST inducing, BTFO, TIRED OF LOSING, cuck for Putin

Better?

Is this how retarded all lefties are?

Put your leaf back on faggot

Paul Ryan was a cuck before Trump ever got into office. Stop being autistic.

Ryan fails with his bill.
Trump knew it would fail since it's shit.
Trump let's Ryan fail in front of everyone.
Ryan is replaced as Speaker.
Rand Paul plan comes forward.
Obamacare repealed.
Obamacare replaced.
Neocon Ryan gone.
Checkmate.

I think it's more likely that Trump trusted Ryan and Ryan is just an ineffective cucklord who thinks far too highly of himself.

>Lefty

No, Trump is a retard who elected a retard. How is that so hard for you to accept?

>It's gonna be great
>It's gonna be beautiful
>It's gonna be the best thing ever
t. Donald JUST

The thing I don't understand is how the replacement bill was created with no input from the motherfuckers who would actually vote on it. It's unlikely Trump had any serious input on the bill, but then who did? Ryan? Why did he go out of his way to make something that wouldn't pass?

Its just a shitshow. How can you control the Congress and white house and step on your own dick right out of the gate?

Implying that Trump expected loyalty from the Republicans after that election shitstorm when they turned on him

He is lining those weasels up and is going to Apprentice them ("You're fired!") one by one till he gets what he wants

Ryan trashed Trump throughout his entire campaign, I wouldn't be surprised.

"Beware the fury of a patient man."

Ryan can literally not keep his lips off his corporate master's asses

He knew his bill was shit but had to try to get it through so we would keep his power and make more money....he was blinded by his greed and will now pay

>It's gonna happen imediately
>The finest health care plan
>So beautiful, so good, so much competition
Excuse me

youtube.com/watch?v=6ks6DApUPac

I'm not Swedish. Just here working. Fucking bong-neet

This was set up so that whatever happened, Trump had moves going forward.

He let Ryan have his plan

If it passes, at least some of the worst of Obamacare is undone, victory can be claimed with social conservatives for defunding planned parenthood, campaign promise fulfilled and then work can begin on the really important thing: reducing prices by decreasing the strength of the insurance/medical/pharma cartel.

If it fails, there are 2 reasons why: Ryan and the Freedom Cuckus. Both of these groups are now seriously undermined; Ryan because he failed to successfully repeal Obamacare after 7 years of saying he wanted to and the Freedom Cucks because they are the reason it didn't pass. So now the typical Republican voter is looking at the Freedom Cucks thinking - as Trump pointed out - "you campaigned on this for years and now failed to deliver - you're the reason that planned parenthood is still funded by the government".

It's not just SJW morons, the fake news and the Democratic Party that is against Trump. A good chunk of his own Party is, too. They are being shamed now, exposed as the hypocrites and prostitutes that they are, and ultimately will have to choose between bending the knee and losing their seats to pro-Trump challengers.

Nice mental gymnastics, you deluded drumpfster

>Never loses.
>Just lost.
>It was a secret plan all along meme.
>Guise i'm just pretending to be dumb.

Trumpcucks ignore this.
>muh 12D chess.

Wew lad

Republicans had 7 fucking years to come up with a replacement. This bill was a fucking sham. Paul Ryan and his ilk never had any intention of passing the bill, and the (((House Freedom Caucus))), desperate for that (((Koch Brothers))) cash, bombed the once chance Donald Trump had of slowly dismantling Obamacare by passing the bill via 51 votes in the Senate and then modifying it through bureaucratic means.

If you're not redpilled on politics then don't even talk about it you fucking hack.

Not an argument, fagtard.

And by the way, Trump has achieved so much in the face of powerful and organized resistance; the people who STILL believe he is some kind of bumbling idiot luckily stumbling in to defeating and humiliating every single one of his enemies, one by one, are the stupidest fucks in the world.

Anyone that takes the time to link that many posts is either a shill, an autist, or a retard.

Your move, shilltard.

All he's achieved is dividing and making the country worse off than it was before. where are all these """jobs""" he promised to create? Nothing's changed, he failed

everything you said is void.
Trump campaigned on repeal AND REPLACE.
his wholleeee position was replace.

he's not a conservative.

nor is 90% of the GOP, they're all pussies in suits who don't want to risk their pathetically low credibility on repealing a bill that went in with massive leftist tailwind.

None of them want to take the hit for repealing it INCLUDING trump so their best bet was replacing it.

unfortunately Trump was either too dumb or impatient to read and understand what was being forced through.

and instead supported the disgustingly shit bill right up until failure.

Stop lying faggot.

WRONG

There are plenty of jobs coming back to the united states idiot. There have been plenty of news conferences about it the past 3 months you fool. With CEO's meeting with Trump and new factories planned to be built in the united states. Not to mention all the jobs for construction of the oil pipeline and the wall.

Ryan is the swamp. He's about to get drained.

Also Trump now gets to see Obamacare implode in full technicolor glory, which is what he wanted all along. He can now say he "tried" to fix it but the Dems stood in the way.

The Dems will pay dearly in 2018 when the Obamacare collapse is in full swing.

>fails to defend position or acknowledge my counter argument, instead spams some more talking points fed to him by the media

>dividing
The country was already divided. Trump's success is a symptom, not a cause, of that.

>worse off than it was before
Wrong. After 16 years of endless war, endless bailouts, endless financial crime and endless stupidity and thought policing from an intellectually and morally bankrupt mainstream media, ANY CHANGE IS BETTER.

>where are all these """jobs""" he promised to create
He has documented and publicized them. There have been many. Here's the latest announcement.
twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/845334323045765121

Please try to not confuse the man Donald Trump with the evil caricature that the fake news likes to draw of him.

>being this retarded
How the fuck will this fall on dems?
it's a republican bill.
a republican president
a republican failure.

if you like Trump, like I do, and you actually give a shit about the administration, you should slam them for this fucking failure.

Watch how fast the GOP puckers when its own voters turn on them.

Snake Ryan must be removed! He is a representative of Republican establishments.

If you are going to shill, at least shill with facts and not lies

That's why he tried SO hard publicly, and didn't distance himself from the failure.
Mental yoga up in this bitch

>Obamacare is Republican
You could at least try to familiarize yourself with American politics before sounding like an idiot.

Don't forget the Freedom Cuckus

The Dems are gonna get the blame too, for sure, but the Freedom Cucks are also going to be hammered by this

>2018 congressional elections
>Freedom Cuck goes to his home state for the first time in months because he has to campaign
>every voter he meets said "you said for 7 years you wanted to repeal Obamacare, why didn't you"?
>cuckservative counter-argument has no effect, voters are disgusted by the cuckoldry
>Trump tells these fags to either bend the knee or face a pro-Trump challenge

>That's why he tried SO hard publicly, and didn't distance himself from the failure.
>Mental yoga up in this bitch

lol

>he didn't listen to a Trump rally


What did Trump say in nearly EVERY rally??

>The best thing POLITICALLY for Republicans, is to let Obamacare completely collapse and let them Dems beg for solutions.

You need to start listening to what Trump says.

Kek
>He didn't see how hard he tried to make this work.
>He was just larping failure.
>He can't remember the many times he claimed to be able to repeal and replace it with a better plan from day one.
Wew

7 years to Repeal and Replace. He had a plan and everything. What happened? He cucked himself, that's what happened.
youtube.com/watch?v=Nz7PcuWkZpU

>1 post by this ID
Ya got me, Mr. Autist

>Freedom Cuckcs
You mean the Tea Party Autists you so willing let into office. Bought and paid for shills. How's that Koch cock, cuck? mmmmmm mmmm, delicious.

Middle class is the main group getting fucked by Obamacare faggot.

>Fantastic
>Special
>Really great plan
>Substantial competative plan
>These people are going to like it a lot
>Tom Price has got this
>Obamacare is a disaster
>We gotta Repeal and Replace
>Let me keep reading what was put in front of me
youtube.com/watch?v=cRW4r3Msulo

Yup, sure wasn't paying attention there sempai~

I will repeat this on the off chance that you are just a normie and not a shill who is paid to not listen:

TRUMP AND THE REPUBLICANS/TEA PARTY ARE NOT THE SAME THING.

SO CRITICIZING ESTABLISHMENT/SHILL "REPUBLICANS" DOES NOT REFLECT POORLY ON TRUMP.

IN FACT, THESE PEOPLE FOUGHT HARDER THAN ANYONE TO PREVENT HIM GETTING THE NOMINATION SO YOUR CRITICISM ONLY PROVES TRUMP'S POINT.

A large number of us did not particularly like the Tea Party or mainstream Republicans. And another group that went along with these people (generally the people who vote Republican whatever happens) are more loyal to Trump than they are to these cuckservatives. The role of these Republicans is to now serve the new boss. As you correctly allude to, lots of them are addicted to Koch money and foolishly resisted Trump. The majority of them will very soon be faced with the choice: bend the knee or lose your seat...
>and thanks to the brilliant 5 year ban on going to work as a lobbyist in the same field they worked on in government, losing their seat is a far bigger loss than it was before
>that 5 year ban, by the way, is a fantastic piece of anti-corruption democracy... and the fact that the media ignores it instead of applauding how great it is tells you what worthless shills they are.

Could also be he and his supporters frame every fuck up and failure as part of a genius plan.

>Calling for border wall
LOL NOT A SERIOUS CANDIDATE
>popular suggestion

>Says W didn't keep us safe
THIS MAN CAN NOT BE PRESIDENT
>most people agree

>calls for Muslim ban
THAT'S IT, HE'S DONE NOW
>popular suggestion

>grab her by the pussy
THAT'S IT, HE'S DONE NOW
>not great but everyone knows how corrupt Clinton is now and WTF is going on with Podesta's emails? We can't let these creeps win.

>Obama drops a mic on TV
THAT'S IT, HE'S DONE NOW
>that could blow up in your face Barry...

>MUH RUSSIA
THAT'S IT, HE'S DONE NOW
>this is based on literally nothing

>NYT talks about wiretaps on their front page
THAT'S IT, HE'S DONE NOW
>wew... does that mean the intelligence agencies were spying on the Presidential candidate?

>Trump says he was wiretapped
THAT'S IT, HE'S DONE NOW
>er, the NYT said he was wiretapped

>Healthcare bill fails to pass
THAT'S IT, HE'S DONE NOW
>Ryan and the Freedom Cuckus set up to fail; 7 years of "repeal Obamacare" then fail to do it even with a Republican majority.


...maybe you'll figure it out eventually