WE HAVE FINALLY ACHIEVED SOCIALSM

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Bernie Sanders paradise

Not defending socialism, but what do you expect from a mestizo country in general?

Venezuela is state capitalism

We did it comrades. Venezuela is finally paradise!

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For their defense Venezuela is filled with the dumbest worthless people in earth.

textbook case that should be shoved into the faces of every socialist college aged moron who loves the kike Sanders

Socialism = scarcity?

Who knew?

Venezuela once outpriced dollar before socialism.

Venezuela is just as much state capitalist as you are white

ie: not

>every car vehicle and factory simultaniously stops

good goin socialism
can't wait for the more stringent controls on the people to save those last 3 drops of oil

Venezuela isn't socialist

nobody can afford cars anyway, checkmate capitalist!

in a serious note please send your women Venezuela we have dollars here

uhh sweetie, Venezuela is not a socialist nation.
it's problems derive directly from capitalism, privileged individuals over extending their reach, and the systematic oppression of the poorer minorities of the nation.

means of production are privately owned in venezuela

there are businessmen

no worries, pepe will save them

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THICC

>defending communists

Would you like a ride in my helicopter?

So it's communism then?

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>Means of production are privately owned
>STATE capitalism

Taringans, everybody.

In name only. See: price controls, overbearing capital controls, etc.

as opposed to ancap capitalism

muh true socialism

To be fair socialism tends to do that to people.

Oh no comrade, it's not fully socialist yet.

It's gonna get a lot worse.

Tell that to the bakers

No, it's not in name only.

There are private companies, privately owned by private businessmen, who employ waged workers who have no say whatsoever in how they are managed. Capitalism.

Much, much better than the state it's in, Mr. 60%.

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I love how everyone and their grandma bashes Ayn Rand, but this is exactly how it goes down in the third act of Atlas Shrugged

> le 54% face

>muh not true socialism

Peru saw their retarded neighbor Venezuela implode thanks to socialism and embraced free-market capitalism

Guess which country is doing better?

communism is public ownership of the means of production, socialism doesn't require that

so progressive

Again: overbearing capital controls, price controls, etc. This is the antethesis of ownership.

Capitalism in name only.

It will only get worse.

This wasn't true socialism. The government and foreign organizations are responsible for Venezuela's problems.

aka communism.

>let's bring up race statistics while ignoring everything else

Those things were only put in place when their capitalist economy collapsed

how much does a car from 2003 cost there ? here with 2k eurs you can buy a golf 4 from 2002

communism is by definition stateless, it's a type of anarchy

>implying in the long run this isn't better for venezuela than letting it be consumed by the western capitalist hierarchy would be
>implying north korea isn't best korea

>means of production are privately owned in venezuela
might be because you dumb niggers gave your government complete control to enact communism.

now remind me again what happens when you give a government complete control?

COMMUNISM WILL ALWAYS BE INHERENTLY UNSTABLE

Communism is stateless and anarchic, it has nothing to do with a government

More like:
>Too lazy and too idiot to work
>Wait for the food to fall from the sky
>Why am I straving?

Without the white man all mongrels would perish into animalistic poverty

It does. Communism is just a fantasy land where force isn't required for the scheme to operate, people willingly share everything with eachother, and no one takes more than they need.

It's about time the USA just annexed Venezuela and took the damn oil

Mexico, most of our problems are from you sending your shit residents over here.

>communism is by definition stateless, it's a type of anarchy
>stateless
>anarchy
so dont be surprised when someone conquers you immediately with no real government to defend itself.

Trotsky pointed out why that was silly bullshit

You need a strong state to establish communism, and then it has to relinquish its power. Problem is governments never give up power once they have it, which is why Marxists ALWAYS have and will fail to accomplish anything other than massive death and poverty

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And don't be surprised when someone conquers a stateless nation.

fuck you retard.

It is widely accepted by scholars that communism has to be achieved globally

Nonsense. Their economy is collapsing because of it and after the fact. It's the source of why foreign firms are bailing.

>no one posted the gif yet

For shame Sup Forums

annexation is expensive, as it occupation. Its much cheaper to use the cia to install a dictator who will genocide his own people and allow one of our companies to buy the oil cheap

>(((Scholars)))

t. Frankfurt school

>It is widely accepted by scholars that communism has to be achieved globally
good luck retard.

even if you achieve that for a split second, someone will wise up, create their own ancap army and conquer your stateless shit hole.

when you're completely defenseless dont be surprised with what happens next.

Their economy collapsed with a right government in the 90s, that's how Chavez was voted into power... then collapsed when Chavez died... and only then when it had already collapsed they started controlling prices

Top fucking kek, this is the future that awaits all socialist shitholes. Can't wait till Europoor lands have no food, gas or even fucking toilet paper anymore.

Venezuela has never seized the means of production. At all times the means of production have been owned by businessmen.

No, idiot, you're wrong. It's called socialism because of the SOCIAL ownership of the means of prlduction. Social ownership = public ownership.

This is why everyone takes American education as a joke. Less that 1/4 of Americans could name the differences between social democracy, democratic socialism, and communism.

>Be Argentina
>Went from a first world country to a shithole thanks to socialism and corruption
>Still vote for socialists and corrupt politicians

>Venezuela has never seized the means of production.
so why dont you faggots do it now?

oh wait, you cant you fucking retard.

good thing venezuela had a woman president or this would have been much worse!

SOCIALSM ACHIEVED

Peronism is not socialist. It claims to be a third position, while retaining the capitalist system. Argentina has never tried to abolish private ownership of the means of production. Argentina's worst economic performance happened under right wing military dictatorships.

Because 70% of the parliament is held by pro-capitalist parties.

It didn't collapse when chavez died though. Recessions=/=collapse, otherwise you'd be using the most extreme of language to describe what's little more than bumps in the road.

try not to sound too retarded

when the state regulates business to the point where bakers can't buy their own flour, but wait for the state to "provide" it, and regulated how they use it
if you think that's "capitalism" it gets better
just as the state blames the bakers for all the starvation by their mishandling of state regulated flour
they toss the bakers into jail seize control of their bakeries

yup sounds just like any capitalism to me
>kys

you mean because someone with an actual army conquered your shit hole stateless country and now you cant do shit.

get fucked faggot.

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Delusion is strong with you Pablo.

every commie doc always states that there has to be a hostile violent takeover of government in order to enact communism
you've literally never read the communist manifesto which is only like 5 pages long

State capitalism. Profits are privatized. Workers have no say in the production process.

>Public ownership over the means of production would suddenly make business run better
Yeah sure. Every worker drone getting an equal say and being able to vote themselves a raise and vote themselves from doing more work when they don't feel like it would TOTALLY make things work better. Let's make the entire working world run like a shitty school group project.

>Workers have no say in the production process.
probably because your stateless shit hole got conquered immediately

Peronism is explicitly anti-Socialist, and in fact used to engage in killing communists (Alianza Anticomunista Argentina)

All the economy is based on the oil wich is expensive to get from there, and the fracking drop the price, the country is ruined now and they don't even know what to do, is not a commie thing, they always has been like that sadly

Venezuela is not conquered.

>chavez die
>within two years country turned to full shit

really make you think

>paco pushing the 60% meme
Its because of you cornpicking fucks
Literally admitting you're not white

That's socialism, not communism.

they hired incompetent people to run their oil businesses.

now they're surprised when nobody wants their shit.

It was the other american who brought up mixed race as an argument when the problem here lies solely in socialism.

All the shitholes in the world have the POTENTIAL to develop into the first world if the correct system is put into place. The racial exception lies only with Africans who need to be babysat (read: colonised) into it.

Will South America continue to be an unredeemable shithole in the 22nd century? All signs point to yes.

>five years*

>Venezuela is not conquered.
so why cant you seize the means of production from the government that conquered you?

its almost as if they have an army to prevent you from doing that.

aren't you a bit too close to those cunts to be laughing?

spic refugees soon

It's not a foreign army.

>Justism

I just thought of the best way to describe Venezuela: They didn't seize the means of production, they seized the means of ownership of the production. Production in many cases is privately held, but the function of it is nationalized.

it doesnt have to be retard, civil wars are a thing.

it's clearly that they didn't really try it.

>Less that 1/4 of Americans could name the differences between social democracy, democratic socialism, and communism.
>Less than 1/4 of Americans can make sense of my bullshit sophistry.

FTFY