Even people who work full time at minimum wage are extremely poor in many areas of America. Many women only get part time jobs and then rely on foodstamps and due to bad schooling, they are too dumb to eat healthy, so they also get diabetes and become obese, costing the taxpayer a shitton more than if those people would have had better schooling and better jobs in the first place.
Also, there are millions of homeless people, even though millions of houses are empty. How come?
cuz u gotta pull yourself up by them fuckin bootstraps if u want healthcare, boy! Proud 2 be American but fuck anyone that's not as rich as me.
>Also, there are millions of homeless people, even though millions of houses are empty. How come?
>Banks own houses
>housing prices too high for homeless to purchase
Supposedly there are 3-4 empty homes per homeless American.
the poor are lazy
>why are Americans ok with this?
Who said we were ok with it?
We have a nation filled with poor blacks. It's hard to find empathy with out groups, especially shitty ones. Imagine having gypsies be 13% of your population and tell me you'd still be pro-welfare state. It sucks that poor whites get lumped in with them, but what can you do
>cuz u gotta pull yourself up by them fuckin bootstraps if u want healthcare, boy! Proud 2 be American but fuck anyone that's not as rich as me.
Are all Americans this way? I do not understand how this makes sense.
>>Banks own houses
>>housing prices too high for homeless to purchase
Why doesn't the government purchase abandoned houses, employ people who are long term unemployed to fix those houses up and then house the homeless?
>Who said we were ok with it?
You vote for representatives who do not change the situation and many vote for representatives who want to even make the divide between rich and poor larger.
>Are all Americans this way?
No, but according a lot of Americans on Sup Forums, you're a communist if you think the government should provide healthcare for it's citizens.
Try again when you are at 60%
You'll have a huge devide as well and it will be soon.
>leaf
>american
What
>Imagine having gypsies be 13% of your population and tell me you'd still be pro-welfare state.
I am against welfare, but I am pro handing out jobs and making people work and providing better schooling. Such measures can reduce the divide between poor and rich.
Germans caring about Germans is caring for your ethnic people.
Americans caring about Americans is caring for a hodgepodge of people living on the same soil as you: people who put their hand out but blame you for their problems.
This is why America never had European style socialism. You will understand as your white population further shrinks.
>Also, there are millions of homeless people, even though millions of houses are empty. How come?
because homeless people are either clinically insane or substance abusers. sometimes both.
you see the same shit in germany, they're loitering around in front of pretty much every train station in the country.
also stop replying to leaf posts you cuck
Most poor people are niggers and spicks. They will get none of my money if I can help it. Fuck them.
I used gypsies and not e.g. Turks as my analogy because we both know gypsies can't or won't work, at least not in a way that competes with whites. Then they'll still demand gibs. Just like blacks.
>Americans caring about Americans is caring for a hodgepodge of people living on the same soil as you: people who put their hand out but blame you for their problems.
But you do have a big welfare system, lots of foodstamps and gibmees and an extremely expensive Medicaid and CHIP system. However, you do not have a system that provides for good schooling for the poor and increases their wages and makes sure everyone has work.
USA is a third world countrie dude. The divide between rich and poor is so wide.
>Why doesn't the government purchase abandoned houses
They're not abandoned, most of them, they're owned by banks. Abandoned houses quickly reach a state where they need to be demolished, no amount of restoration can fix those places.
The only way to have equal wealth is to make everyone poor.
Germany will be learning this over the coming years.
Also, the images you are using are of homeless people who are almost always mentally ill, not just "poor". There IS a valid complaint that America does not have a good system for taking care of the mentally ill, though.
We can't address the race question so we need to obfuscate with issues of wealth, freedom, programs, etc. It basically boils down to the fact that we don't want to take care of the blacks, and never have. If we can't fix it through deportation, we will always have a poor underclass because blacks are low IQ, low agency, and don't garner sympathy very well. We've been multiracial for the entirety of our history, and we've always had to tiptoe around this problem.
Because our "poor" are not destitute. That is, abject poverty is a thing of the past in our country, except in extreme cases of neglect.
As a capitalist society, we realize that not everyone gets to be rich, or even middle-class.
>Most poor people are niggers and spicks. They will get none of my money if I can help it. Fuck them.
Why is that? Don't you think these people would fit better into society if they had better schooling, knew how to eat a healthy diet and had a productive 40 hour job in a manufacturing plant?
>I am against welfare, but I am pro handing out jobs and making people work and providing better schooling. Such measures can reduce the divide between poor and rich.
yo're a deluded cuck living in a fantasy world.
Have you seen what our government does? They lie to us all the time. What am I supposed do?
The thing is we don't want them to fit into society. We want them gone.
How many black people have you met? The top ten percenter at uni doesn't count. Does average 85 IQ mean nothing to you? Do you think Australia can take care of abos by providing "good schooling"?
Zuckerberg dumped something like a billion dollars into an all black Newark NJ school. Guess what effect it had.
That's some quality hypocrisy there, at the end of the day, Europe is """"economically equal""" just because it makes people outside europe poor.
>Don't you think these people would fit better into society if they had better schooling, knew how to eat a healthy diet and had a productive 40 hour job in a manufacturing plant?
you are assuming that they are both capable and willing to lead a productive livestyle. in reality, that just isn't the case. see
Because our "poor" are still in the 1% globally and welfare always allows for the heighth of techno gadgets.
Technology and capitalism have always raised the standards of living for the poor in Western countries.
>provides for good schooling for the poor
This doesn't buy you the nigger vote, though.
I can't take anyone serious who posts the bundeswehr with berets cuck army for a cuck state
when mutti calls they will go to war while murat fucks their wifes back home traitors
>the fact that we don't want to take care of the blacks, and never have.
Except every Western country seems fine with welfare for all lower-income ppl, blacks included.
>Abandoned houses quickly reach a state where they need to be demolished, no amount of restoration can fix those places.
In "It's a wonderful life", Jimmy Stewart and Donna Reed smash an abandoned house's window and make a wish. A few years later, they move into this house and easily fix it up with little money. They then start to build houses at low costs for the community. God and the guardian angels looked kindly on their acts.
>Why is that?
Lower average IQ, high time preference, high testosterone/aggression, r-selection breeding strategy, less abstract thinking, to name a few reasons
Americans ARE NOT okay with the divide, leftist commies are.
The middle class (aka hard-working, bootstrap-pulling, predominately white) are being raped by leftist gibmedats policies. The fucking scum of the country and illegals are looting the middle class and democrat and neocon faggots are encouraging it for votes.
The middle class has no voice. Speaking up means muh racist, muh patriarchy, muh feelz, muh lgbt bullshit. Plus, we're too busy working to provide for our families. If we quit to protest, then we lose what we have. If we continue as we are, then we get eradicated.
When it reaches the boiling point, things will change, but not until then.
That lower right pic makes me a little angry
New Yorkers are selfish as hell
in america minimum wage is for teens and illegals.
Nobody over the age of 20 should be working minimum wage
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>Because our "poor" are not destitute. That is, abject poverty is a thing of the past in our country, except in extreme cases of neglect.
So why is there homelessness? Why are people without healthcare? Without jobs? Without good schooling?
In Germany we got 15% poor people and we have basically no homeless people. So I do not believe America has 0% poor people.
The final redpill is that in a multicultural, capitalist society nobody gives a fuck about you and it's every man for himself.
They get crazy amounts of free shit, and affirmative action guarantees jobs to all but the most fucked up of them. We've dumped billions more into education and the results haven't changed. Until we can have an honest conversation about cultural and genetic differences - allowing them to live up to their own potential rather than dragging down the potential of others - this will never change.
Fuck the scumbag freeloading faggots.
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Thou shalt not envy? What is it with leftist faggots wanting shit without working for it and calling other people greedy?
It's a Wonderful Life is a great movie about a country without niggers. If you think for even a moment that a home can be abandoned and picked back up again after a few years you're mad, those places become party-dens and crack houses in relatively short order even in "nice" areas. You ever try doing restoration on a house where people have been shitting in the closet for who knows how long, and pissing in every corner? You just have to condemn the thing and bring in a bulldozer.
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He's not talking about the struggling middle class, e.g. White people. He's talking about homeless and such. He has this image in his head of a -down-on-his-luck tramp with a heart of gold. He doesn't realize our homeless are druggies and blacks. That they often get welfare but blow it all in a weekend on alcohol and hotel rooms in a weekend and voluntarily go back to being homeless for the rest of the month
I like how the op image pretends like there arent homeless people shitting in the marheinecke ubahn tunnel on an hourly basis
This. Our poor are very well off if they take advantage of our programs and don't make stupid decisions. You can live off the government's teet and have a very comfortable life. You just can't live off the government's teet and have a comfortable life and do drugs and buy new cars. Our homeless shelters aren't full because you need to be sober to get in. Just look at public housing and section 8. They all have TVs and cars and enough food when they don't blow their EBT on liquor and pizza.
Why are you ignoring all the racial arguments in this thread? Germany doesn't have a notable black population. Compare Germany on a per capita basis to US non Hispanic whites only and I promise we are equal or better to any stat you can come up with (including gun homicides)
The problem is non-whites
>in america minimum wage is for teens and illegals.
>Nobody over the age of 20 should be working minimum wage
So you would like a staggered minimum wage? Some European countries have them.
For anyone from 14 to 16, minimum wage could be 6 dollars, 17 to 18 it could be 8 dollars, 19 to 21 it could be 10 dollars and above 21 it could be 12 dollars.
This system would help with youth unemployment.
How about this?
If you want to help the poor, go right ahead.
Do not ask the government to come take my money under threat of violence to redistribute it. If you want to redistribute your wealth, you are fully free to do that.
>So why is there homelessness?
We have the same number of state mental hospitals as we did in 1900.
Most homeless have either a substance abuse problem or a mental disorder. But the progressives killed the idea of institutionalizing the crazies and now they just let them live on the street.
Also, niggers.
>So you would like a staggered minimum wage?
Yes.
I'd love that, assuming it was enforced for illegals.
Would make McDonalds hire 16 year old Cameron and give him a start to his career rather than rely on 40 year old Shaniqua
This. Every time I am in Frankfurt the smell and number of vagrants remind me of San Francisco or Boston. Same shit. Gypos are way worse than any of our homeless.
No 40 year old should work at McDonald's anyway.
What would help most with youth unemployment, and unemployment in general, is cutting welfare benefits, removing the minimum wage, and expelling illegal and temporary immigrants. There would be full employment in a year or two, and prices of goods and services, meaning cost of living, would drop like a rock.
>Why are you ignoring all the racial arguments in this thread?
I am not ignoring them. I said that one problem is that racial minorities in America have bad schooling, so they end up as drug dealers and criminals and druggies etc.
Which is also a question, why does your country legalize marijuana, but not introduce heroin programs? We had some trails here and provided heroin to our heroin addicts in a controlled environment. They were even going back to work part time after getting their daily hit. They managed to even have a regular daily schedule.
Hans, don't comment on something with which you have no direct experience. We have no poor in the US, our bums are obese. There are generations of families that have never lifted a finger in there collected lives and have a quality of life better than yours. Poverty stats don't mean shit here, otherwise the poor would all be hungry and living on the streets, which they are not. The only homeless are those with mental illnesses and substance abusers that haven't sought help.
Why are Germans ok with immigrants dividing your women's butt cheeks?
government is not the answer, it is the problem.
people tend to think capitalism is the cause of these problems when it isn't at all.
Boo fucking who!
>millions homeless
go get the census data on that one..
Even 1 million homeless would be 0.3% of population.
Krauthammer you have no idea what it is like we have 330 million people, you are Texas; sure, you big and important, but nowhere near the USA in toto.
We have a fluidity of class that you cannot even touch. We still have 20% of those in the bottom fifth reach the top fifth of earners, do you have that?
>Do not ask the government to come take my money under threat of violence to redistribute it. If you want to redistribute your wealth, you are fully free to do that.
But that was the question. Why do you not want your government to use your taxmoney to make sure that homeless people and poor people are a bit better off? You seem to be fine with your money to go to the military or schools in rich areas or into healthcare of the old people.
The same way Europeans are okay with a large divide between white Europeans and Africans and Muslims. The fact of the matter is that the "rich" are white and Jews while the "poor" are blacks, ghetto trash drug addicted whites, and Hispanics.
And it's the same reason people are okay with the large divide between Jews and whites. And the very vast divide between the sexual value of black men and white men. Black men are HUNG with huge dicks that all women want while white men have tiny little baby dicks that no woman on earth wants, which is why white women are flocking to black and brown men en masse and are GLADLY and HAPPILY voting for increased immigration from Africa and the Middle East and dream about having a black baby.
These are all facts.
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>Every time I am in Frankfurt the smell and number of vagrants remind me of San Francisco or Boston.
That is only in the Bahnhofsviertel and only for 20 years as a result of the decision of the perma-socialist city major in Frankfurt to allow prostitution and drug use in the open in the Bahnhofsviertel. If the city said "no more drug dealing and no more prostitution" in that area, you would not see any of them.
Mostly, these people are not German nationals, but Eastern Europeans and non-European illegals.
Black people are not white people. You need to accept this. Good schooling and social programs that help white people will not succeed with blacks.
user, the majority of homeless people belong in mental institutions or rehabs. Putting them in an apt or home does not solve the problem. In any case, anyone that's genuinely homeless and not on drugs or mentally ill can apply and receive Section 8, Snap and myriad other programs.
Where are the muslims in the german part of the photo?
>Why are Germans ok with immigrants dividing your women's butt cheeks?
Germans are against illegal immigration. A lot more than US Americans. Germans even before the "refugee" crisis were strictly against any type of non-European immigration - even legal non-European immigration.
>You seem to be fine with your money to go to the military or schools in rich areas or into healthcare of the old people.
Stop assuming things.
I don't believe its the governments job to manage our personal lives.
Defend the border, enforce the law. That's what I want.
>Why do you not want your government to use your taxmoney to make sure that homeless people and poor people are a bit better off?
Why WOULD I want them to do that? Poor and homeless people should show some personal responsibility and fix their own lives instead of expecting Uncle Sam to give them a paycheck for existing.
>Schroeder introduces his plan
>German salaries stagnate for 10 years
>Opel shareholders get money from stocks
Germany is so much better than USA
You have no idea how much money we dump into inner-city schools. Some of our best high schools have to ask the local district to hike taxes every two years because they are criminally underfunded, they pump all the money into minority dominated schools and get shit in return. We should be putting the money where we get the most return
>Why do you not want your government to use your taxmoney to make sure that homeless people and poor people are a bit better off?
They get too much as it is. You don't know what you're talking about.
>Mostly, these people are not German nationals, but Eastern Europeans and non-European illegals.
Cool. So you get it. Now imagine 35% of your country were a different ethnicity.
>you are Texas
Texas has 83 million people and a GDP of 4 trillion dollar?
Sorry Kevin your cuck fetish doesn't stand up to the cold truth of reality.
Inner city blacks have some of the highest per-student costs in the country and they still come out drug dealers and bangers. They have more opportunity than most rural whites when it comes to education and still underperform.
We spend plenty on education...Most of them just can't be taught.
Why are Anglos so fixated on healthcare?Are they really that disease ridden?
>there are millions of homeless people, even though millions of houses are empty. How come?
Because the homeless don't have skills to acquire currency with which they could afford those houses
>>German salaries stagnate for 10 years
The same happened in America. The salaries of US workers have stagnated for 25 years which is what I am talking about. The divided of poor and rich is getting stronger.
Except you are, dumbass. You wouldn't even be able to have the healthcare you do if you weren't under our military umbrella.
Hans, you are making arguments that aren't based on reality. Any American will tell you that our "poor" probably live better than 50% of the European middle class.
Stagnated wages and divide between rich and poor are different things.
How does giving poor people more free shit raise wages?
Because forced equality is a Jewish trick to create a ruling government class to control an entire populous.
Because Americans are greedier than Germans. They gave the Chinks an easy way to actually imitate their industry
>us spends more on health care than anyone else in the world
because we have 30 million illegals sucking on the government tit for handouts while actualy americans get fucked because deocraps and jews want to give more hand outs to niggers instead
This. It's not rocket surgery.
> Why are Germans lying to themselves?
> Who won ww2? Why did it all happen in the first place?
> Where did everyone go after Germany got butt flustered?
> Who runs America's institutions?
> Where is all the money in America concentrated, both locations and institutions?
> What effect does taxing the middle class to fund the poor spending their money on the services of the super rich, while not taxing the super rich, have on wealth disparity?
>How does giving poor people more free shit raise wages?
Poor = 1 source of income, labour
Rich = 2 sources of income, labour + capital returns from real estate or stocks
Social transfers = subsitute for that 2nd source of income
Welfare state has been driven by (((globalisation))) and moving companies to cheaper nations
>racial minorities in America have bad schooling
They don't have bad schooling, they choose not to take advantage of the schooling they receive, same as the Germans that are in HartzIV.
>burger
>not understanding irony
Flag checks out
>muh second ahmedmend
>muh guns
Or something of the like
You can get be idiots and cry about your poor life choices,or you can get a marketable skill and make bank.
>Any American will tell you that our "poor" probably live better than 50% of the European middle class.
This is simply incorrect. Even Eastern European middle class people are way better off than American workers these days.
Yea sure. You make it sound so easy. Why don't you lead the charge my fearless leader!
>Stagnated wages and divide between rich and poor are different things.
How so? I was talking about the stagnated wages which result in workers being poorer and the rich getting richer.
How is that somehow not related?
>Even Eastern European middle class people are way better off than American workers these days
And a higher percent of eastern european tenants have their flats as their property as opposed to western europeans :^)