Why do so many people on this board insist on using race as a way to categorize human beings? Race has no basis in biological fact, or people would have no problem with the people of Syria. It has no basis in observable reality, or Irish people would have always been considered white and Italian people would always be considered white. Race has historically meant whatever it needed to mean to demonize whatever minority group was thought to be causing problems at the time.
And what does race even mean when a half chinese half black person marries a half Hispanic half white person and has a child? What race is that child? Does the concept of race even exist at that point, after just two generations?
>I am a race mixing clown. Let's breed with all the shitskins living on earth
Camden Jackson
great thread
Dominic Cox
fpbp /thread
Andrew Adams
>race has no basis in biological fact
pick up a biology book and look up the term "subspecies" you fucking retard.
Luis Reed
>Race has no basis in biological fact
Evolutionary biologist will disagree with you
>Does the concept of race even exist at that point. You can read alternative literature on race and the human being from hitler's critics at that time.
Christian Davis
it is not my problem that different races exist, my prob is that butthurts like you wanna kill the different races and melt things together which should be held apart. in western europe we have the discussion that being against multiculturalism and mixing is considered as hating blacks, asians etc. blacks should live as they are but not in my fucking country
Justin Collins
Genetics can determine genetic illnesses
It can determine height and other physical features
It determines whether you will get certain mental and physical illnesses.
But when people mention genetics can determine cognitive limitations everyone freaks out.
Jayden Edwards
t. didn't grow up around black people
Owen Johnson
Black people are monkeys with vocal chords
Logan Rivera
If race doesn't matter why do you post a qt white girl. Why not a abbo?
John Foster
A lot of people here are conflating race with genetics when the two are not related at all. There is some value in knowing genetic history in medicine but this "race" concept doesn't provide any useful framework at all.
Owen Rogers
>A lot of people here are conflating race with genetics when the two are not related at all
Carter Adams
It provides a useful framework for knowing who's gonna rob me at 2AM if I see them on the corner...
Parker Rogers
> Why do so many people on this board insist on using race as a way to categorize human beings? Because we where never a part of elite. And the political nation is us. And you should be hold responsible for crimes of your family, if you want to continue to use their heritage.
That is the inevitable future. Now hate me for this.
John Young
>Race has no basis in biological fact
You can mail a tube off to people who've never laid eyes on you, and their lab equipment will tell them exactly where your ancestors are from, matching generations' worth of family-recorded genealogy records.
Irish and Italians were always considered white, or else they wouldn't have been allowed to emigrate to the United States en masse as free men in the first place. They were simply regarded as the shittiest of whites by certain segments of society, and mostly in cities.
The SJWs have really been shitting up Sup Forums with PoC and racebaiting talk the last couple of days. What's going on? Can a full moons have an effect on people who never their their houses for fear of being raped or triggered?
Alexander Bailey
>Sup Forums is against this
Hunter Allen
looks like a Jew, so yes.
Brody Hughes
> You can mail a tube off to people who've never laid eyes on you, and their lab equipment will tell them exactly where your ancestors are from, matching generations' worth of family-recorded genealogy records.
And that's great! Very interesting.
> Irish and Italians were always considered white, or else they wouldn't have been allowed to emigrate to the United States en masse as free men in the first place
I don't think this is true. People of all nationalities were allowed to immigrate to the US barring a few instances during war time I believe.
Anthony Sanchez
Colors do not exist because there are no agreed upon borders between the various colors.
Brandon Turner
reminder thats whites are a vast minority on earth
Samuel Hughes
You fucked up your analogy because colors exist in a gradient with lots of different mixes and hues
Dominic Sullivan
> minority group SINK THE CHINKS
Juan Davis
No I forget what the law was called but someone will be posting it soon.
Asher Scott
>I don't think this is true. People of all nationalities were allowed to immigrate to the US barring a few instances during war time I believe.
Up until the 20th century, non-whites such as Chinese were generally only allowed to emigrate to the US to fill brute labor shortfalls.
Sure, blacks were "allowed to emigrate" the the US in the 1700s to become slaves.
I love how >i am teh master race!1! types can never type out a proper sentence or even frame an intelligent reply.
To OP's point, it's because most racists are just trying to excuse their own failures by blaming it on 'others'.
Oliver Torres
Race exists in the same way
Austin Ortiz
You are close to understanding it was never about the actual race. It is about using a certain or minority group to your advantage.
Maybe the puzzle becomes a little more complete now. Leftists are in no way different from right winged people. They both use what they can to validate their points.
Differentiating between what's good and what's not is where salvation lies.
Jeremiah Bailey
>Race has no basis in biological fact Forensic science says otherwise
Cooper Sanchez
It's true that the races have no commonly agreed upon borders, but it is folly to deny their existence. You don't have to be a racial supremacist to acknowledge this fact either.
Jaxon Roberts
really makes me think that blacks/mexicans/jews are racist cunts who like to oppress minorities
just look at social media, they´re basically chimping out nonstop
japanese are xenophobic by default so no need to talk about rice midgets
Nolan Bell
That wasn't a racial issue as much as a means of keeping the US unified as one people. We also hated Italians and singled them out, and the Irish, and etc. Obama tried to reverse that, and we can see the damage it's caused. Not because of different melanin levels, but because non-American cultures are inferior.
Eli Ortiz
>old overweight abbo >young attractive white woman
Really makes me think
Charles Martinez
If you look at statistics about crime in usa by demographics it becomes clear that blacks are & have always been significantly more criminal & in general more dysfunctional, they also tend to fail education even though blacks receive more help & entitlements than whites. in the uk and denmark & everywhere else blacks/africans tend to fail, they are more criminal dumber etc the same goes for arabs but to a lesser decree, and the reason for this is race.
blacks are genetically (remember genes are the functional part of dna) an older human race. the oldest human race is aboriginals and they are the lowest cognitively speaking etc
Owen Martin
The US got lucky by having Britain as a father. They were not very democracy minded, but the traditions they had, which we kept, led to our current culture and systems of government. Our Founders considered themselves Englishmen, and wrote the Constitution to make sure those attitudes were the foundation.
There's no reason Mexico or Indonesia shouldn't be as rich and successful as the US. They aren't, not because of inferior genetics, but because of inferior cultures. Same idea applies to Belgium and Australia. They'll never match the US in any field until they copy us.
Brody Young
>pick up a biology book and look up the term "subspecies" you fucking retard.
Seems pretty coherent to me...
Lincoln Gomez
>more criminal & in general more dysfunctional, >they also tend to fail education even though blacks receive more help & entitlements than whites. Not because of genes. Because of culture. That's the fundamental flaw of the Bell Curve study. A properly scientific study would have used black kids who were 'raised white', i.e. who lived in the American culture. Before recent times, they were legally excluded, and lived in a black culture, separate from our successful one. As time goes on, more blacks are rejecting black culture, and will have equal success.
Jace Cook
>liberal creationism copypasta shit thread
Jayden Morales
Put all humans in existence on a grid. Those closest to you are those most genetically similar to you. Lets watch who is enveloped as the sphere grows bigger.
>You >Immediate family >Cousins >Distant family / Kin >Ethnic group >Race >Racial mixes of people not related to you >All the other races
>"subspecies" you fucking retard The Master Race, everyone. You can tell by the compelling use of fact and logic chains.
Ian Rogers
Go peruse twin adoption studies, especially done across race. It's near 100% genes.
Also, pic related. On average the richest blacks are only as smart as the dumbest whites. I bet this triggers you.
Brandon Green
>le race is just a social construct
try practicing that as a doctor and you will get done for medical malpractice pretty fast when your black patients die from diabetes but you refuse to notice the pattern
Andrew Collins
>race isn't real what are you, fucking gay? sage
Jace Mitchell
If race doesn't real, then why have Africans never achieved anything of note? Checkmate.
Daniel Parker
she's beautiful
Josiah Phillips
Just like there are different breeds of dogs, there are different breeds of people, or races. It's entertaining to watch leftists defend the theory of evolution but deny that people who have evolved in different environments for thousands of years have no genetic differences.
David Thompson
>Does the concept of race even exist at that point
nope, because you ruined it
good job
Blake Hill
>race has no basis in biology >you cant observe differences in races what are you?
Brandon Hughes
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Jayden Clark
The same way it's totally ok to say "racist" things when it's related to physical capacity.
It's totally ok to casually say that black people are faster than us after watching Usain Bolt win a sprint race with 7 other black people around him or seeing a random Kenyan win every single marathon.
But it's not ok to say that black people are in average dumber because they have less degrees, more unemployment or that Africa is a shithole since forever.
I think you can be racist and still don't be an asshole thinking you're smarter than every black people on earth. You can be a racist and have some basic statistical knowledge, knowing what a Gaussian distribution is for example.
Or pick up a book on genetics, that's fine too. The video is faster.
Anthony Bailey
You're right, race doesn't exist.
The various races are different species.
>And what does race even mean when a half chinese half black person marries a half Hispanic half white person and has a child? What race is that child?
An abomination.
Evan Hall
A filthy liberal shill
Joseph Perez
>Race has no basis in biological fact, If you ever met a Turk you wouldn't be saying that
Ethan Jones
Biology is irrelevant. What matters is that different groups of people have conflicting interests.
Austin Garcia
Arabs and niggers aren't a minority. There are literally billions of them. Truly blonde people are a minority.
Ian Fisher
>but m-muh geography and the lack of resources never created an opportunity to develop an successful civilization yes. and blacks stayed dumb. white people are just more lucky
Gavin Diaz
*a successful
Mason Phillips
yeah man
Gavin Diaz
You ignored all of my arguments about culture, princess. Canadian culture is inferior, too. You kept the Brit culture of classes, and are now trying the socialist path of 'separate but equal'.
Jaxson Cook
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John Collins
>Race has no basis in biological fact
Hahahahahaha
Joshua Bennett
"Culture" isn't a magic spell, "Princess." Comes from genes and it's why most all European countries operate similarly.
Twin studies show twin children raised by what you claim to think are different "cultures" from different racial groups even still end up about the same as each other. That is because it's almost entirely genes. Gas yourself, illiterate burger.
Oliver Cox
I just found this image in another thread that clearly implies that niggers are genetically closer to bonobo's than to europeans.
Science is a bitch?
Juan Rogers
JdbD2uvk & KgS1hiqb.jpg kissing up a tree.
Evan Anderson
Just so you know you're not making a valid point or even an argument right now you're just denying that what that person said is true because they said it in a way that hurt your fee fees
Josiah Kelly
To answer your question, Yes it does, it means the child is a mongrel.
And you're quite incorrect. Race does have a basis in observable reality. It's called diseases and physiological structures.
There's a reason why black majority areas of the globe are shitty. It's because they're black.... thus have a lower IQ and higher propensity to violence.
Bentley Garcia
Group cohesion is easier to keep with those you are genetically similar to. That's why ethnicity is defined both by genetics and culture.
David Nelson
This isn't politically incorrect, it's just incorrect. Your post has nothing to do with politics at all. Kill yourself, you degenerate retard.
Isaiah Anderson
I would like to hear a rational argument for why race is a useful categorization for shaping our political, social, and economic policies.
One that isn't falsely equivocating race with genetics and one that isn't just angry and virulent hate speech.
Dominic Bennett
Because people grouped into racial groups broadly share similar interests and are often in conflict with those places in other groups.
Jayden Peterson
The funny thing is, there is absolutely no such thing as HUMAN RACES and it is completely unscientific. Let's repeat that over and over 1000000 times and print it in all schoolbooks and say it in all texts and speeches.
As it happens, there is something called HUMAN HAPLOTYPES which WORK PRETTY MUCH IDENTICALLY TO THE STANDARD NOTION OF RACES. And these are completely scientific, they are just not usually spoken about.
Jeremiah Gutierrez
>because non-American cultures are inferior. >America >culture
Elijah Morgan
So can we use this information in any meaningful way? Can we use it to shape our immigration policies? Should we use our concept of "race" and say people of certain "races" shouldn't be allowed into America? What if that person shares your exact ideology, principles, and morals?
Jackson Collins
>"Culture" isn't a magic spell Sure it is. The US vs Canada is a great example. Canada was going bankrupt before the oil and nickel mines kicked in. It never contributed much to the world except bodies for the Brits in their wars.
Your twin studies were explained above. Black kids are raised as "Blacks". The mayor of NYC has half-black kids that he is teaching to avoid police, because he says society is racist. Those kids will be losers. If you could raise a black twin as a white kid and the other as a black kid, you'd see the difference.
I give you credit for at least acknowledging the argument. Most posters here are just typing 'we teh master race'.
Levi Powell
s a mud race you retard...mud
Ian Gomez
Ah, I see you're another retard who doesn't understand how Leon Trotsky fucked western civilization. It's never been about race, fuckwad. It's about culture.
Here's a little trivia for you: the world will be easier to control once (((they))) destroy every culture through the melting-pot method.
John Walker
Not one of you arguing with me are even trying to use fact. You're all using your feelings, and like the true leftist you are, you're now accusing me of that of which you are guilty. Sad!
If any of you really believe in what you're saying, you'd be looking for evidence that you're wrong. But like man-made climate change loons, everyone is just screaming 'the science is settled!1!' and 'who's paying you???"
Zachary Moore
>Because people grouped into racial groups broadly share similar interests This. user could have said >similar culture Because culture is all that counts.
Liam Allen
Are you a parrot? Thanks for the support of my argument, I guess.
Joshua Lewis
The majority do not. Hence why 3rd world peasants come here, and when they do come here, they vote against the interests of the country. This is the democrat strategy.
Your exception does not invalidate the rule.
Is diversity good? No. And this has already been explored. Look up Robert Putnam, a harvard professors, research. Not the damage control commentary from the left about it, but the actual research.
The right seeks homogeneity through exclusion, the left seeks homogeneity through inclusion. They're as race obsessed as each other.
Jacob Morgan
I see a lot of people are bringing up culture. That's fine. Culture as a concept seems much more concrete than race does. I was just wondering about peoples' thoughts on race.
Carter Sanchez
>Why do so many people on this board insist on using race as a way to categorize human beings? Because it's one of the easiest way to categorise people.
>Race has no basis in biological fact It has. You can categorise people based on their cranial features. Most of the Sup Forums race stuff is a meme because they only categorise people based on the colour of their skin, eyes and hair.
It's mainly an American thing, since unlike Europeans, their nationality can't be liked to a certain ethnic group. They have blacks, whites, asians etc. so they categorise themselves based on race.
>And what does race even mean when a half chinese half black person marries a half Hispanic half white person and has a child? What race is that child? It depends on the child's phenotypical traits I think. Also, it's just a categorisation. People usually enjoy doing it because it makes them feel like the world is more clear and organised.
Angel Wood
>What if that person shares your exact ideology, principles, and morals? We're reaching a point where the conflicts if interests are so great that coexistence is impossible. The precedent created by allowing the presence of a member of an oppositional group works against the interests of the original group who can only hope to achieve it's interests via complete separation with the other. By merely existing as a member of some group, you show then support regardless of your conscious actions. Your proposal is dependent on the fallacy that the individual exists in any meaningful sense.
I can't say that race is the end all and be all of this type of organization, but that seems to be the way things are breaking down in our society.
Angel Martinez
Meaningless term. What we're calling 'race' is just genetic adaptations to different climates.
'Race' is only useful to people with a vested interest. With Western leftists, it's a means of getting votes. With countries like China, it's a means of reinforcing their own culture, and with nazis, it's used as an explanation for why they are life losers.
Levi Harris
That woman was probably 30. Aboriginals are basically a combination of homo-erectus and denisovans.
Chase Cruz
>I would like to hear a rational argument for why race is a useful categorization for shaping our political, social, and economic policies. >One that isn't falsely equivocating race with genetics and one that isn't just angry and virulent hate speech.
Why is it hate speech? You are a classic example of someone who has been TOLD their entire life that there are no biological differences between man eventhough science is very clear on it.
You see it all over the animal kingdom aswell, and btw. technically you are a mammal. Let's take monkeys since they are very close to us biologically, there are many different subspecies of monkeys some smaller some larger some more intelligent some not etc. etc. But they are all considered monkeys.
This must then be a very racist god, why didn't he just create all monkeys exactly the same so they wouldn't look at eachother differently..
Ah ok so let's say you don't believe in god then atleast go with where the science goes which is the same result, many different subspecies/distinct phenotypes with different traits and behaviour etc. within a species.
I should ask you the question, why is it that you want to stay in denial about that people from different places of the world are infact different, with different traits when it can be observed very easily!
It's precisely denial of this that causes multiethnic societies to function poorly when the majority ethnicity becomes too small. Because people ARE very different, even within their own ethnicity they are very different, so it has massive political implications to ignore this.
This is why in the past they DIDN'T ignore it, and created nations and borders to keep bad people especially of other ethnic groups, out for the most part. Even the colonialists in africa segregated themselves from blacks so that they kept their way and blacks could keep theirs. BECAUSE of these differences.
William Flores
Disagree. The same argument can be used across generations. Depression-era children had hippie kids who had capitalist kids who had self-absorbed kids, and the latest trend seems to be going to conservative kids. You'll never see a stable human society.
Adrian Howard
Blacks are literally closer to Bonobos than Europeans. Stay mad nigger
Jaxon Evans
>not acknowledging culture is determined by race
What are you, some kind of faggot?
Benjamin Evans
OP is a retard. Mixed people are called mongrels.
Owen Russell
>BECAUSE of these differences. But you can't say it's genetic differences. Whites are mixed with cavemen who had obviously lower intelligence, and yet we are the most successful branch of all. Americans are superior to Danes, not because of genetics, but because of our culture. 'Culture' meaning outlook on life, systems of and attitudes toward government, etc. Not museums.
Grayson Hall
bump
Wyatt Torres
>What we're calling 'race' is just genetic adaptations to different climates. >just genetic adaptations >evolution
>'Race' is only useful to people with a vested interest So what you're getting at is Darwinian evolution has vested interests?
race is a way to catorise humans! its to tell hwo fast they are duhhh!
Justin Morales
>>'Race' is only useful to people with a vested interest >So what you're getting at is Darwinian evolution has vested interests? You'd have to actually read what I typed to know what I typed. You are obviously a part of teh master race!1!
