Don't you guys in Eastern Europe miss your socialism/free stuff?

Don't you guys in Eastern Europe miss your socialism/free stuff?

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A lot of people in Russia miss it.

I kinda miss it too, but not for gibs, in fact the gibs is what doomed USSR

USSR was doomed from the end of the 50s when economy was turned towards consumerism (google 7 year plan)

Brazil being silly again.

Only Russia misses it because they were litterally stealing everything from other countries.

Only minorities, useful idiots and broken people miss it.

>free stuff
Nigger.

Nah mate, the USSR was doomed since it started. It survived because people were scared and they used forced labour.

It took one guy to write one book for the entire idea of the USSR to collapse, that isn't a good indication of the survivability of the USSR in the first place.

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we still have socialism stuff, you know

I miss the myth&idea that united all Slav countries and made them cooperate so well.

Russia was stealing too much from us, freedom of speech was fucking non existent but at least we weren't so exposed to the western degeneracy.

I would gladly accept another Slav union, just without the barbarism, with a human face for a change.

I don't miss commies though, fuck those people.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS_in_Russia
Nigger.

The ideological idea was obviously impotent from day 1.
The real idea was korenization. To become kangz and steal something from Russians or have something for Russian expense. Like pooland illegally occupying Prussian lands now.

(Russian = GreatRussian + BeloRussian + MaloRussian)

there is still free socialist stuff in Romania, mostly for gypsyes and people in the countryside that go from graduation straight to unemployment benefits. And yes romanians want free stuff especially those who lived during the communism regime. Bad behavior is enabled by the state, making the shit-tier people from romania outbreed the high-tier people

Is Romania based. At least Valachia region?
How are your relations to Russians?

I don't miss anything bc we actually are a socialist country.

Some people miss it, but in reality they're just nostalgic about their young days.

ahh the great soviet union which made slavic culture consist of getting drunk and living in gray gommieblocks
its funny how there was not enough toilet papper or meat but there always was enough of alcohol in commie countries

This. Everyone wants to go back to their childhoods. Maybe expect those who got exiled.

Ever read 1984?

most romanians are shit-tier gypsy-turk rape babies so no we're not based. As for relations to russia, we try not to think about them too much, otherwise russians are the boggyman

why do you miss it?

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Well I could use some Gulag for sure

So you have nothing nice to say?
ok.

Korenization was a (((trotskike))) idea, in mid 30-s it was replaced by Russification - basically civic nationalism.

>lopu vagons
>vagon for dumbasses

As a Lithuanian, Latvian cracks me up sometimes.

Everyone wants your commie faggot father to fuck off from their childhoods and pay debts for all the gibs he`ve illegally taken.

youtube.com/watch?v=PfMn1yahGYk
A Communist state.

A lot of people miss the stable nation USSR was. There was no uncertainty and everybody knew they were gonna get education and went to a job and earn a car in 5 years it wasnt very prosperous but people knew what to expect tomorrow

By free stuff you mean not having any?

>LIT=Žmoga a man.
>LV=Žmoga a person who constantly Jews money.

There is no "free" stuff faggot. Only leeching from those who work.

>stable
Russia has been stable for 17 years.

> Korenization was a (((trotskike))) idea
And it was implemented by giving all the niggers in the world Russian land, ban on Russian language in press, in schools and in general, ban on Russians in ruling over anything.

> in mid 30-s it was replaced by Russification
And it was implemented solely(!) by witholding the ban on studying Russian language. Because niggers could not explain to Russians what was it they wanted to force Russians to do.

So effectively korenization still continues full force. Just look on what is happening in ukraine and wake up - you obosralsya.

lel

LV Girts - male name
LT girtas - drunk

One of the most shared reaction from people coming from communist countries (USSR & others) when visiting USA/western europe, either defectors or high profile trusted communist visitors was :

CRYING WHEN ENTERING THEIR FIRST WESTERN SUPERMARKET.

all accounts from this era show the same overwhelming reaction in front of so much products and food.

The second reaction was usually either starting packing meat/ butter because "oh we are lucky, they have received meat/butter/*** today, hurry to grab it while it's avaiable"

or accusing CIA to have set up the place and furnished the shop before their visit, than insist on visiting other random supermarkets to check.

Even Yeltsin had the same reaction when visiting a supermarket in 1990 blog.chron.com/thetexican/2014/04/when-boris-yeltsin-went-grocery-shopping-in-clear-lake/

or Viktor Belenko (mig 25 pilot defector 1976) seanmunger.com/2013/09/06/the-odyssey-of-viktor-belenko-a-fascinating-footnote-to-the-cold-war/

In 1960, Kroutchev accused the CIA of packing the university's parking he was visiting with all the cars in the USA. By the end of his visit, he had to admit that university students did had their own cars, and average American workers could afford cars.

> video
What this commie faggot, that is oppressing local native minorities, while gobbling on E]U[SSR gibs wanted to say by that?

>without the barbarism
So without Russians

What was great was focus of on local culture, industry. Everything had to be Polish, local made, even if it was shitty or just licensed, at worst imported from bloc countries.
Everything else was shit.

>Be me
>Live in communist Lithuania a republic of the USSR
>Live in shitty moldy and smelly communal apartment
>Toys are expensive and break easily so I have to use autistic powers to imagine that a rock and some duct tape is a spaceship
>Have to read about this bald pedophile Lenin in school and his hobbo friend Marx
>Two channels and one TV (2girls1cup before it was cool)
>Steering a Moskvich requires Arnold Schwarzenegger arms
>Wave my national Lithuanian flag during October protests in 1989 and was beaten by KGB agents in a basement of the old town

Great memories.

You won.
By the way it is Ģirts.

because its the motherland for most of us

USSR and its people never deserved what happened to it and all these lies that are said about it now

Does the pronunciation differ?

>that is oppressing local native minorities
> local native minorities
Kek
>gibs wanted to say by that?
Freedom of speech and actions.

A sane person in this cesspit, how did you end up here, тoвapищ?

Rare.

Anyways, all those supermarkets must create tons of waste. There's no way people buy all the products on the shelves.

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You RuskieBro's were rapped the hardest by (((market economy))) and drunktard Yeltsin worldwide vodka parties. It was hard for us as well the most fucked up thing was organized mafia you knew that nearly everyday from 1991 to 1996 someone was mugged or shot dead for walking in the wrong place and time.

>Does the pronunciation differ?
Yes I think.My microphone is shit.
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do you miss the long queues ?

>free stuff
What it looked like in reality is that USSR was just robbing everyone of their produced goods. It was just a giant parasite for actually productive bloc countries, because they didn't produce anything other than raw materials and military tech.

>everything is "free"
>except it is not in stores
>and when supply hits you have limitades "reserved" dosage
>have to wait in lines like in WWI Prussia
>mother&father have to pull contacts to get box of Pampers

Your are right. A price to pay for abundance. In Lithuania this problem is solved by the fact that homeless people devour all expired food in the matter of hours.

This. After all that raping Russians didn't have any choice but vote for someone who could bring back at least partial stability.

They weren't that bad if it wasn't standing for nothing (had to stand 2 hours for a fucking meatloaf until the cashier told us that it was sold out). It was like going to a church or some social gathering people would just talk with each other while waiting.

That's a good way to deal with it.

>beaten by KGB
My grandma got to explain herself in 1986 when Chernobyl happened just because she said that all the saving personnel is taken from small Republics to just destroy them and put more Russians in their place.

žmoga? Never heard of such a word
maybe its Žmogus?

I got one:
LIT - Elnias - Deer | Briedis - elk
LV - Brieds - Deer | Alnis - elk

>Even Yeltsin had the same reaction when visiting a supermarket in 1990 blog.chron.com/thetexican/2014/04/when-boris-yeltsin-went-grocery-shopping-in-clear-lake/
tfw one super market in texas ruined entire eastern block

i highly recommend you actually read the pravda and other newspaper from this era. I know you can't trust westerners, but every communist new regime made it its goal to allow newspapers to reveal the shit done in the previous decades (kroutchev after stalin, gorbatchev in the 80s).

What about when they noticed int he 50's that the few cows left to the farmers were responsible for most of the milk production ? They confiscated them, all of them, and sent them to kholkozes... who didn't had barns or feed for them. Half of them died during the follow up winter, half of the rest were sent to butchering before they die, the few taht left didn't produced milk anymore. No more milk.

The farmers took care of the single cow they still had. Kholkozes didn't gave a shit about cows. Collectivism just doesn't work.

I know that meme.

I did a dumpster diving project in the states, went 3 months not buying groceries and had my wife photograph/document every haul. It was insane how much good food was left to rot in those huge ass dumpsters.

>The supermarket that saved Europe

Owned by Bogdanoff's

Why You know so much about it Tree bro?
Never heard anyone talking about the farmers perspective on these things apart from my elder family members.

>The farmers took care of the single cow they still had. Kholkozes didn't gave a shit about cows. Collectivism just doesn't work.

nah, its not about kolhoz, its about Hrushev being retarded

literally every shit that was in SU started after Stalin's death

collectivism works, it doesnt need to work everywhere

fuck i thought this meme would end by now, but out of nowhere a new img always comes out which cracks me up

>after Stalin's death
>collectivism works
implying
>collectivism works
Implying
>collectivism works
Implying
> it doesnt need to work everywhere
Implying
>collectivism works, it doesnt need to work everywhere
Implying
>nah, its not about kolhoz, its about Hrushev being retarded
Not real Communism it will work this time REEEEEE.

I have a BA in history, although i don't work in this field, i still kept the curiosity and hunger for knowledge.

I have a good collection of 40s, 50s, 60s era books and publications by academics that nopony read anymore.

And it's pretty funny, especially the USSR era. Like when most people in charge of factories had a good chunk of their workers just paid to steal and bribe to get the raw materials to keep production going.

>this time

it already worked you dumb sprota

>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

chill dude, commies under your bed will not grab you by the leg

>it already worked you dumb sprota
Man Russian humor is good.

I loved the fact that to meet the demands by the planned economy workers would just rush everything out in the last months which met the demands but in the process creates extremely low quality goods and many work related accidents.

> yes goyim , communism worked
> it was better in the union
> trust us euro friends, join russia again
>it will not go to total shit in 50 years like always
daily reminder that Russia is a tumor to Europe

haha nice meme friendo, sure showed that commie bastard! :)

>Like when most people in charge of factories had a good chunk of their workers just paid to steal and bribe to get the raw materials to keep production going.
Don't even start I remember when people whined that many factories closed in 90s. The issue were that all the raw materials were in 4000 km distance the whole economy was there to be producing not improving and working long term.
Sometimes I just really think all of it was so uncanny. Remember once I was riding through a deep farm state in about 10 days we found 4 completely desolate factories. Fun part was that all people even during USSR times lived 40-60 km from the facilities.

Hell no! What free stuff btw?

You now where debating with Russians lead?
[spoiler]Nowhere.[/spoiler]

>R A R E
also yes, exactly what happened

I don't want gibs and hate commies.

It never worked. The commies were able to invest a enormous part of their GDP to make propaganda projects, like space programs or nuclear ships, but at the expense of everything else. The reality was that they were heading to crumble because of this, especially during stalin era, simply because providing goods, food and education benefits your population and society a lot more than sending a man into space.

In soviet era, higher education was reserved to high profile communist party families and stakhanovists. And the education provided was mostly communist propaganda rather than technical and theoretical knowledge.

Same with high position jobs, that were allotted based on your commie karma and relationships through bribing, rather than capacities.

This is what I've been saying for years now. Russia has never and will never truly give up communism. They are just adapting until they get powerful enough to restore it.

So you are going to teach me what my country used to be, right?

are you like from a former soviet republic or what because I dont think that fancy flag of yours was in the warsaw pact or smth like that

>So you are going to teach me what my country used to be, right?
>are you like from a former soviet republic or what because I dont think that fancy flag of yours was in the warsaw pact or smth like that

Never seen my mom it means I don't exist.
Russians are just full with logical fallacies.
No wonder why everyone hates you.

Except for the flag, nothing's changed desu commies still run shit till this day

Well you obviously needs some education on the history of your own country. But really don't trust me, just go to your closest university archives and ask for old USSR newspapers. Even full of propaganda and distorted reality, they still let slip a lot of reality behind the veil of bullshit.

How about you tear off that wall carpet and stick it up deep inside your ass, so you could feel USSR bbc raping your tight asshole one more time?

need 1 more for my "victims of communism" pack

Ok, I will follow your advice, friend

thank you for it

>need 1 more for my "victims of communism" pack
>Russians are just full with logical fallacies.
>No wonder why everyone hates you.
AD HOMINEM

you also need to stop being a fucking filthy retard

We dont, we were in Yugoslavia techicaly twice, each time our army (Yugoslav army) was complete disaster, 1941 in april war, Yugoslav army capitulated in 12 days! In 1991 Yugoslav army should have waranted stability of Yugoslavia but it was complete embarasment, unmotivated to fight they massively deserted leaving military vehicles and armament literaly on the road which helped crating paramilitary forces that were driven with national idea to arm themselvs and comit atrocities.

What we have learned from this, only 1 nation can have motivated army to defend its borders and politics. So never again in Yugoslavia and Socalism doesnt work as ideology anymore.

>The commies were able to invest a enormous part of their GDP to make propaganda projects, like space programs or nuclear ships, but at the expense of everything else.

This, desu. USSR spent all its money on tanks and rockets and fell apart because its people wanted toilet paper and blue jeans instead.

He бoмби, кpacнoзaдый - oн вce пpaвильнo гoвopит.

you mean starving to death?

FUCK NO.
We never wanted in on that shit in the first place.

>Don't you guys in Eastern Europe miss your socialism/free stuff?

Actually no.

Even the fact that a country needs socialism and was able to forcefully adopt it means that you're subhuman, and not able to have a country that actually works.

Even the "democracy" that comes after is made by former comrades.

I would exclude poles and slovens for being better than that.
But IDK mayne, no idea how the west actually sees them.

Long story short, communism only works with slavniggers, parts of asia which also under developed with lower IQ, and, of course, some of the south american monkeys.

yes i cant wait 15 years for my lada

>free stuff
only if you're one of the ruling party, otherwise 40% of your payment went for enough food to not to starve to death

when will you morons fucking understand that the Soviet Union existed only for WAR

Soviets LOST in 1945

The heavy industry that was overinvested served WAR

WAR economy is incompatible with every day life

There were literally plans that the Warsaw Pact would attack NATO

Communism collapsed because its growth engine - heavy industry - collapsed and it didn't manage to realign itself for light industry

Wait a sec.

People had to pay for food in Bulgaria?

Stalin's USSR was a huge concentration labor camp. Roads, railroads, mines, factories, all built with the blood and death of forced labor.

FREEEE SHIIIIDDDDD 4 EVERYWUN :DDD
>t.Pernie Xanderz

Oh yeah, they kept a money system in USSR, but goods were limited to set amounts of products for each citizens based on age/familly size.

Except the shops were empty.

youtube.com/watch?v=t8LtQhIQ2AE

There were special shops reserved to high end commie party members, but they had a really limited range of products compared to western shops.

7:37 in that video is the best :)