Universal Healthcare

So Sup Forums, why doesnt America have universal healthcare? What are reasons against/for it?

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wsj.com/articles/life-expectancy-for-white-americans-declines-1461124861
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commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2015/may/problem-of-underinsurance
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
forbes.com/sites/maggiemcgrath/2016/01/06/63-of-americans-dont-have-enough-savings-to-cover-a-500-emergency/#394b2d4a4e0d
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BUT MUH RELIGION GOYIM

>mexican bitch pumps out 10 kids, doesn't work
>white woman has 2 kids, works

In a universal healthcare system the white woman is essentially paying for them all

We have far more minorities leeching off of welfare and fat fucks who will be sucking the system dry than every other country with universal healthcare.

Then why do all of the rich and powerful come to the US for treatment if "universal healthcare" works so well?

Federally subsidized healthcare is unconstitutional.

outside of the fact that it is inefficient and wastes resources,
Why should I be subject to pay for someone else's healthcare?

too many fat people
too many brown people who are usually fat, they also constantly shoot each other

It forces you to pay for crap you dont want

healthcare isn't a right and it's a shite welfare tool used to control populations for political reasons

Americans would rather die than to give even $1 to help someone else. Even if it would help themselves too.

I'm not going to pay for niggers and spics healthcare

We do. Now fuck off.

>be argentinian
>have both public, federally-funded "free" healthcare and private insurers that enable you to go to private hospitals
>public system is collapsed, stuff missing all the time, dirty, crowded, etc.
>anyone who is not a welfare nigger has private insurance, but also has to pay taxes to pay for nigger healthcare

don't fall for the bernie sanders socialist bullshit

Yes, pretty much this. Fuck this country.

yuropeasants need their rulers to take care of them

I'd rather die than give 40% of my income to the government, see 80% of it go to the bureaucrat, then the remaining 20% go to someone who didn't earn it.
>what are charities

Paraguay does have universal healthcare
Medicine is free if you prove you work somewhere, shitty medicine ofc but free

>free

yourtalllife.com/article?articleName=HealthCareThoughts

Well, most of your money goes to the military. I mean, 600 billion a year, goddamn.

Your country is all sorts of fucked up and backwards in many regards, but you'll never admit it so you'll respond with some meme insult.

Universal health care or universal access to health insurance? Insurance is the safety net. You pay into it every month so you can use it when you need it. Healthcare is the service covered by health insurance. I think we should focus on making healthcare cheaper. Costs are inflated to encourage people to get insurance.

Only way I'd be okay with "universal healthcare" would be if the entire healthcare/hospital industry became a federal branch and all workers where government employees. That way it would be a government owned service funded by the governments operating funds. But as long as hospitals etc exist privately...idk man too tired to finish this shit for a thread that's gonna die in two minutes

Healthcare has made it so the first time in history where people with shit genetics are allowed time to reproduce. No fucking way is the current lifestyle sustainable if we allow stupid and shit gene people to leech while smart people don't reproduce.

Don't be a retard. Conservative Americans give tons of money to charities. What we don't want is being forced to give our money to people who we don't even choose.

This
here we have to pay for private hospitals if you don't want to die in the queue
So you end up paying it twice

YOU ALREADY DO IDIOT. YOU PAY MORE THAN ALMOST ANY OTHER COUNTRY FOR SHIT HEALTHCARE

our healthcare is shit tho
like everything in this country

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Do you have any evidence that minorities "leech" of welfare? From my viewpoint, it's just a shitty meme designed to prevent any discussion on a cheaper healthcare system.

Just because we are wasting money on the military doesnt mean we should also waste in on healthcare

You know how I know this thread is full of anti-universal healthcare shills.

Every single scum bag who "doesn't want to pay for brown people", is completely ignoring the fact that they've paid for brown people in Iraq and Afghanistan to get universal healthcare.

It's even right there in the OP's pic. I couldn't believe it either, so I looked it up. Jesus, man.

>shit healthcare

>FOR SHIT HEALTHCARE
American healthcare is the best in the world
Also medicare and medicaid should be eliminated

>Only way I'd be okay with "universal healthcare" would be if the entire healthcare/hospital industry became a federal branch and all workers where government employees.

I have experience with such a system. You don't want that.

Studies show that conservatives give less money to charity than any other group of people.

don't hospitals there charge like 400 dollars for rubber bands you use?

i know americans have this #1 mentality but shit, your country isn't really that great.

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>give the government a monopoly on healthcare
>unironically believing this will work

rt.com/usa/193952-charity-conservatives-religion-utah/

what studies

>studies show
Sources:
Bureau of I made it up

Also, stop giving people welfare

So, in a country where most people can't afford healthcare the wait time is half that of a country where everyone is guaranteed healthcare.

You're an idiot.

The amount they charge is always negotiated down
Also I said we had the best
I didn't say anything about price

I have medical insurance through my employer. Excellent care. No long waits, excellence all around. So glad I don't live in a shit hole country.

>most people
citation needed

>where most people can't afford healthcare
most people had insurance even before obamacare dipshit

Yes, they do. Because every time someone can't pay the hospital, they increase everyone else's bills to recoup the loss. It's snowballed out of control and hardworking people can't get basic care and our life expectancy is in the toilet.

But I'm sure in just a moment, someone will be here to tell you that it's because "muh malpractice."

>"muh malpractice."
Both are part of the problem

>life expectancy down the toilet
>two years below most euro countries
>while being infested with niggers

Look it up yourself, you goddamn lazy nigger.

wsj.com/articles/life-expectancy-for-white-americans-declines-1461124861

Try again, faggot.

bombs more profitable

only 9% dont have health insurance

kff.org/other/state-indicator/total-population/?currentTimeframe=0&sortModel={"colId":"Location","sort":"asc"}

Public services are inferior services, and I don't want.inferior health care.

I am a school psychologist. I make about $98k annually which comes out to approximately $5k monthly after retirement (mandatory retirement instead of social security, albeit, better than social security), taxes, etc.

So, I have a daughter and a husband. Husband has fine but not stable job without benefits. If I added my daughter to my benefits, that would remove $1k from my paycheck. This is not an exaggeration. So, we do Obamacare instead because its cheaper, but I don't get any discounts because Imake too much money.
Also, I owe $200k in student loans for working my ass off in grad school to get where I am today.

So, why is it again that someone whose super poor and uneducated (I do NOT come from money and have the highest level of education of anyone in my family, btw) is somehow entitled to the same benefits as my daughter, but for free or basically free?

Why is it that my hard work is rewarded by taking away my relatively modest earnings so that I can get the worst health insurance for my child?

Also, my once beautiful body and face is aging due to the high stress Ive imposed upon myself and Im less happy then ever even though I love my child dearly...

I get really angry at that poor uneducated leach....then I calm the fuck down and realize politics are structured to create this false battle between the extremely poor and ther kind of poor so that the rich fucking leaches an watch us argue and suck the life out of me.

is this supposed to prove me wrong? the expectancies are nearly the same for other first world countries.

I'm not talking about health insurance. I'm talking about hard-working white Americans WITH health insurance that can't afford treatment when they finally get sick. It's a massive amount of people.

commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2015/may/problem-of-underinsurance

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because niggers!! teehee i hate niggers lol! dont you hate niggers OP??? when i was a little boy my mommy made me share my nintendo with the neighbor boy but the neighbor boy was a nigger so i smashed my nintendo to bits so i didnt have to share! because nigger!! haha! nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger xD

Calm the fuck down, La'Dontavious.

like everything in america, our healthcare system works if you're extremely wealthy, it fails everyone else

Wait times here for actually important procedures are still shit in many cases. The average wait time is shortened because the statistic includes the short wait times for bullshit like Botox.

>, indicate that 23 percent of 19-to-64-year-old adults who were insured all year—or 31 million people—had such high out-of-pocket costs or deductibles relative to their incomes that they were underinsured.

Still dont see where you get "most americans" from

or just have a halfway decent employer plan...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

We're 31st in life expectancy, and falling.

Right up there with revered first world nations like as Cuba and Costa Rica.

Fucking retard.

It works for me because I just dont give a shit and therefore dont need to waste money on health care
Or at least I didnt before the mandate

Don't take canada as a example.
Our health care sucks

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Cars decrease life expectancy much more than healthcare increases it

This

Russia's universal healthcare is a meme, you literally have to bribe the doc and supply your own meds, needles etc to get anything done.

The white women doesnt even have 2 kids

How old are you?

I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that this country is filled with fat lazy fucks who eat terrible food and never exercise.

Why should we pay for some retards mistakes?

It's fine. Medvedev and Putin are not corrupt. They are delivering all of their promises and helping all of us.

Because my feelings :( how can you be so heartless :'(

yes she does

>correlation = causation
>don't bother to include crime and obesity
>a whopping two year difference between first world countries

forbes.com/sites/maggiemcgrath/2016/01/06/63-of-americans-dont-have-enough-savings-to-cover-a-500-emergency/#394b2d4a4e0d

How is that a problem, Pancho? That white Americans don't want to pay for your immigrant family to breed, eat endless carbs, and drink yourself to death?

too many niggers and spics in U.S. if we did mass deportation, we could maybe swing it.

yeah there's wait times, and not nearly as long as countries with universal healthcare because there's less misallocation of resources.

>fuck white people, they should pay for everyone's healthcare!

That's shitty, too, but just because I don't want universal healthcare doesn't mean I want to pay for their care, their nation, their refugees or any of it.

I might support Universal Healthcare in America if we had NO illegals, NO open borders, NO refugees, and an overhaul of the welfare system with strict limits and work requirements for all able bodied people. But because of freeloading spics and niggers, we can't have nothing nice.

really makes you think

Not having universal healthcare is based tho

Last month we had an incident in my hometown where a hospital might or might not have caused a death due to negligence so the patients family hired the town murderer to destroy the hospital and kill one of its staff.

>They didn't have to pay for it
>When the cops where called, they got in on the fun and started beating the hospital staff too

>2009

Before Obamacare tanked our system and overburdened it. I guarantee it is NOTHING close to this now.

Any population that can support a government safety net doesn't need one because they can take care of their own community without it
See the Amish

>so the patients family hired the town murderer to destroy the hospital and kill one of its staff.
Things that only happen in India

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Thanks for chiming in

calling me a scum bag doesn't help make me want to pay for your healthcare, you shit skin

Healthcare is not a fucking RIGHT retards. A right is a freedom from someone aggressing against you. A right is not an entitlement. An entitlement is you getting to beat other people up if they dont give you stuff.

>White woman
>2+ kids

You live in a fantasy world.

tfw when someone on Sup Forums invokes white privilege to try and win an argument over healthcare, while not realizing the retarded graph they posted counts people like Bill Gates and George Soros in the white wealth column.

honestly if they can't afford the health care they should fucking die or leave. We don't need people fresh off the boat from 3rdworldistan setting up shop and having 20 liberal kids on our dollar.

I recommend any socialist or skeptic on these issues to read this

>median
2 people have almost no effect on this chart

You Yankee doodles spend nearly double the UK and far more than most other countries on your Healthcare as a % of GDP.
Youse are all idiots; In your insane stubbornness to continually do a stupid thing again and again, your nihilistic and selfish avarice is preventing your own white race from prospering as Medical Bills cripple your White Lower Middle/Lower working class, living paycheck to paycheck and with one misfortune away from spending their lives repaying a medical loan that could be better covered by a Collectivized Basic Health Insurance.

Once this is in place, you will find Insurance fall for those that want the piece of mind of luxury Private Medical care and you would still have the benefit of Universal Healthcare in-case a Jew steals your wealth and you get run over by a Nigga.

Enjoy your premiums, your self-regard and the highest prices ever for Drugs. Enjoy sucking big Pharma's tasty cock while being Pounded by your Insurance companies.

Tell your Corporations to fuck off trying to buy our politicians at every fucking turn.

>Well Done; greatest nation on Earth can't find a better system to look after it's working poor.

>Sort it out you uncivilized Yanks; Look after each other you idiots.