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Trump is a civic nationalist at best. He's leaps and bounds better than Hillary, but he's beholden to International Jewry and cannot be trusted.
Brayden Edwards
Hey, I'm new to the NatSoc stuff and I just wanted to ask if you guys believe that there is any possibility that in the future that countries like the US or UK could elect a NatSoc leader who could possibly begin to push for the stop to all of the ethical and moral degeneracy running rampant in our society?
t. New NatSoc
Hail Victory!
Joseph Roberts
A country as diverse as the U.S. would need to become balkanized or find a different form of government.
It could become fascist without racial elements, but we all know the U.S. will collapse if whites become a minority.
Adam Peterson
What's the difference between National Socialism and communist Socialism?
Jace Collins
It would take a lot. Perhaps great financial difficulty or war to cause centrist politics to collapse. Then, fascists and reds would be left competing for desperate souls.
Then there's the question of how exactly a "NatSoc" government would work in a country like the US and UK, which would have their own policies designed for their people. I imagine with current demographics, there could never be a NatSoc California or New York, which means we are presupposing either mass racial genocide or the fracture of the United States, both of which don't seem so likely at the moment.
Ayden Martinez
National Socialism is opposed to international socialism. We reject socialist class struggle, instead seeking to unite all classes for the good of the nation rather than pit them against one another. A rudimentary explanation might be that international socialism claims to advocate for the international worker, while we national socialists concern ourselves primarily with the well-being of all of our own people first. I could go more in depth, but that's the surface level difference. Economically, also, NatSoc doesn't mandate worker ownership of the means of production.
Sebastian Hill
NatSoc takes the rightwing approach and believes not everyone is born equal, but a people must be concerned with their community, or they are not a people at all.
Personally, I believe we would consider NatSocs today to be centrist protectionists, economically speaking.
Aaron Martin
bump
Aiden Green
There are patterns in nature that can be found on both small and big scales. Take the golden ratio for example, it can be seen in nautilus shells and spiral galaxies alike. And look at the structural similarities between an atom and a solar system. And now look at the cells in your body and the myriad of organisms inhabiting our planet. Just as the individual cells in your body has their own place and purpose, so do the individual organisms on Earth. A liver cell has no place in the brain, nor does a sandnigger have a place in my country.
The cells in your body don't necessarily know that their purpose is to keep your body alive and functioning properly. We may not necessarily know how vital we are for the Earth and what function we serve. We do know where we belong though. Our fair skin and practical intelligence makes us thrive in colder, harsher climates. This is where we belong. A sandnigger thrives in desert climates, and a niggernigger thrives in the jungle, where they can climb trees and be eaten by superior predators.
Mix a liver cell and a toenail cell and you get a useless waste product with no purpose other than to be shed from the body and decomposed into something more useful. Just because a junglenigger can mix with a caucasoid doesn't mean the result will serve a purpose, or even have a rightful claim to life on this Earth.
We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.
Ayden Bennett
>Blaming cartoon on an anime image board
Where is your honor?
Ryder James
>(((white nationalism))) Stop tainting the name of national socialism with this shit. Scrub the white nationalist stuff from the OP or just admit you're not natsoc and call it white nationalist general.
"White" is a concept created by the British during colonialism (Hitler opposed colonialism) to separate the conquerors from the conquered and to dehumanize nonwhites. SJWs use this same colonial model of race to dehumanize whites. Hitler was never about preserving le white race, he wanted to create a new race.
Putting northwest front etc on there and calling it national socialist is like calling Pinochet a libertarian. You're mixing a bunch of incompatible ideologies.
Whiteness no, but Hitler believed in the supremacy of the German people. His ideal world wouldn't have been populated by Africans, that's for sure.
John Brooks
Soon...
Carson Harris
daily reminder that Codreanu did nothing wrong
Jaxson Foster
Isn't Nationalist Socialism a more Communist orientated meme ? Yes they did oppress an ethnic group and other minorities but if you look at the Nazis social and economic policies. Compare and contrast, the Nazis look more left wing authoritarian than right wing authoritarian.
>Nationalizing big businesses >State-run labour programs (autobahn) >Break-down of the free market due to government olygopolies
Noah Richardson
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Jonathan Carter
what do you think an aryan looks like you fuckhead
John Jones
>National Socialism >Socialism >Socialism=/=Communism By being a Natsoc, you are following the truth, the one truth, the final solution. Sure you have freedom to do things, but you have the freedoms to do wrong. There are infinite lies but the one truth, governments only to exist to serve the people and the people only, to lead them in the right path.
卐 - FASCIST/NATSOC MOVIES: --------------------------- The following link contains 26 Third Reich movies (One from fascist Italy, one from occupied France). All are good quality DVDRIP (x265 codec) and all have English subtitles.
List and genre: >Bismarck 1940 Biopic, Historical >Condottieri 1937 Historical, Adventure (Fascist Italy) >Das Herz Der Königin (The Heart of the Queen) 1940 Anti-British, historical >Der große König (The Great King) 1942 Biopic, historical >Der Kaiser von Kalifornien (The Emperor of California) 1936 Anti-greed, historical >Der Sieg Des Glaubens (The Triumpth of the Faith) 1933 NSDAP propaganda
================================ 卐 - MYTHS ABOUT NATSOC (Part 1) >"National Socialism is just (((socialism)))"
Marxist (Left) socialism and National (Right) Socialism are "antipodal zeitgeists engaged in dialectic". That's a fancy way to say they're opposite ideologies designed to clash, like Yin and Yang.
NatSoc was fundamentally an ideology built around race, while Marxist socialism was entirely different: built around class. Hitler aimed to unite the right and left, including workers and their bosses, into a new German nation based on racial identity. Socialism, in contrast, was a class war between workers, bosses, and owners (Capitalists), aiming to build a workers state in which race and gender were insignificant. Socialists, especially Marxist socialists, were anti-religious atheists, whereas NatSoc went so far as to make Christianity the religion of the state.
The differences go on and on: Marxist socialism was internationalist, NatSoc was nationalist. Marxist socialism was egalitarian, whereas NatSoc believed that nature was unequal and required competition. Marxist socialism wanted to nationalize all private industry, while NatSoc privatized every major industry except the railroads (it considered these a military asset. In fact, Hitler once joked "they didn't need to nationalize property because they nationalized people". NatSoc drew on a range of pan-German theories, which wanted to blend Aryan workers and Aryan magnates into a super Aryan state, which would involve the eradication of class-focused socialism as a non-German ideology.
Samuel Wright
卐 - MYTHS ABOUT NATSOC (Part 2) >"National Socialism is just (((socialism)))"
NatSoc redefined socialism as "Germanism/Volkism", which they saw as "producer-oriented capitalism", as opposed to "Jewish capitalism", aka, international finance, globalism, wall street, etc. In theory, NatSoc economics was a version of Keynesianism, tailored to the Völkisch nature of whichever people adopted it. Its not one dogmatic economic system,and Hitler often joked that the lack of a specific ideology was their strength. NatSoc could be more "free market" as Americans know it, or less. But NatSoc is always in favor of the Volk over economic identity, of "producer capitalism" over "finance capitalism".
Hitler tried to clarify the distinction in 1938: >“’Socialist’ I define from the word ‘social’ meaning in the main ‘social equity’. A Socialist is one who serves the common good without giving up his individuality or personality or the product of his personal efficiency. >Our adopted term ‘Socialist has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. ((((Marxism))) is anti-property; true socialism is not. ((((Marxism))) places no value on the individual, or individual effort, of efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community. All great inventions, discoveries, achievements were first the product of an individual brain. It is charged against me that I am against property, that I am an atheist. Both charges are false.”
卐 - MYTHS ABOUT NATSOC (Part 3) >"National Socialism / Fascism was a failed system"
It's intellectually dishonest to label something that was forcibly crushed a "failed system", implying that a nation bombed into collapse during war is comparable to a system imploding politically during peace-time. The Soviet system failed, as did the Roman Empire, and every Chinese or Ottoman dynasty. Some of these examples of government lasted thousands of years, while some didn't last more than a generation. All forms of government inevitably fail. This has been true since ancient times. Polybius famously articulated this process of Anacyclosis: social organization paradigms rise, fail, and give way to further systems. This is the cycle of history.
Fascism is not a failed system, it was a defeated system: A.) it was not an economic system, but a social one; B.) the so-called "failed system" had a control group: the US. Germany, Italy, and the US were operating under Keynesean policies; only one of them won the war, and experienced a massive period of growth once their industrial rivals were destroyed. So no, it wasn't a failed system, because both sides were using it, including the side that won.
>Lebensraum: 'Lebensraum' is often intentionally exaggerated by those wanting to push the fractal "Hitler planned to exterminate all races" meme. The actual meaning of Lebensraum referred to the security of the German borders, and the need to provide living space so that Germans aren't threatened by outside forces. To claim that "living space" meant solely "to exterminate and re-populate more land than there would have been Germans to inhabit, for several generations after the war" is absurd, and contradicts the policies of "Germanization" that were ACTUALLY PRACTICED by the Germans regarding their Slavic allies:
Hitler didn't consider Russians subhuman. He considered them inferior. Because in terms of living, they were. Seriously, look at the living style of the average Soviet, then compare them to a German in 1930, they were, by all accounts inferior. He even talks about how some Russians of the old rich class were Germanic. There were multiple reasons for the invasion of the Soviet Union, for example: >1. To gain the necessary resources to fuel a long time war, something that Germany was severely lacking. >2. To prevent the inevitable invasion of Europe by the Soviet Union. If you gonna start a war, it's best to have the first strike. >3. To disband the Bolshevik and Jewish regime in the Soviet Union, something Hitler knew would be a threat to Germany.
True, the Germans would've gained land from defeating the Soviets and would certainly have sent its citizens into this newfound land, just like the allies did to German clay they gained after WW1 and WW2. The Germans wouldn't have exterminated Russians. They simply would have governed them.
Ethan Gomez
卐 - MYTHS ABOUT NATSOC (Part 5) >generalplan ost: 1. There is absolutely no proof of Generalplan Ost ever existing. 2. Hitler would have been fine with a path through the Polish Corridor (pic 1). If Poland had agreed to the terms then there would have been no war. 3. Germany did not massively blob into Eastern Europe like wiki suggests, they had very clear borders(pic 2). The eventual goal was to set up puppet states, not wipe out the populace. 4. If the plan was to exterminate Slavs, then why were there no camps for that purpose? The deaths in Eastern Europe are from starvation and warfare, not extermination. 5. Plenty of Slavs fought alongside Germans in the Russian Liberation Army, SS Galician, and others.
