>"The working class have spoke and I’m one of them and I’m with them" >"What I dislike is the left-wing media in America are trying to smear the bloke as a racist and that’s completely not true."
>it is impossible to be the dominant culture and the counter-culture simultaneously
Who else is happy we're getting some of the idols young leftist worship and tote as being one of them? I'm happy he did this, and did it well. I hope this gets passed around like fuck on tumblr and twitter and facebook, etc.
Yeah, what do you mean? I posted a video of him talking about it.
Adam Cooper
Man, can't believe everything used to listen to green day. Hearing them trash trump at that Hollywood event with all their liberal Hollywood audience really jaded me.
Jacob Nguyen
Bump. Punk is right wing now, bitches. Groupthink is an entirely leftist enterprise.
Noah Russell
Sorry, just read the article you linked. It was written well before the interview i like ked, his opinions seemed to have changed a bit since when he believed trump didn't have a chance.
Oliver Williams
Yeah, right now it is lol
Anyone know any alt right or right wing punk bands that have always been right wing?
Matthew Carter
When did Johnny Rotten turn into a lesbian?
Michael White
>it is impossible to be the dominant culture and the counter-culture simultaneously lmao. there's never just culture and counter-culture. you guys aren't THE counter culture. you're simply a sub-culture. Mainstream culture is both liberal dems and republicans.
>Who else is happy we're getting some of the idols young leftist worship and tote as being one of them? Maybe some liberals idolize the fat dad who used to be punk. Influential? Undoubtedly. I don't think any leftists thought he'd be with them. Sid wore a swazi everywhere. They liked pissing people off, and I'll hand it to you guys, that's definitely your ballpark at this point, so it makes sense that he'd be with ya.
>Punk is right wing now, bitches. What in the ever loving fuck are you talking about? Where do you live that this is the case?
But it's mostly ledditors saying punk is inherently left wing. But they say the same thing about communism, so.
Jonathan Mitchell
Sup Forums is a million times further away from mainstream culture than Chomsky reading commies.
Anthony Campbell
Lmaooo give him a break, he's old and fat and half blind. Tho I'm surprised and weirded out to find he's still making music. Just like Green Day is. Idk tho, do what you want tho right
Chase King
>Irrelevant old musician tries desperately to get his name back in the news so people remember that he's still alive.
Terrible! Many such cases!
Thomas Powell
He also makes Butter adverts and shit music
William Wilson
He wore a swastika because it was shocking, not because he was a Nazi. His gf was a Jewess even.
But I think that you're wrong. There will always be sort of "main baskets" that every subset fits into. Most of Sup Forums, even if it is a subset, fits close to the top of the main basket in terms of having its own sovereignty. Specifically because of its anonymous nature, I mean.
Jayden Gomez
New commies don't read Chomsky, they just pretend shhh don't let out their secret.
Christian Lee
Punks in the 80's were what many considered counter culture and they fought Nazis all the time. I doubt you'd argue that people were closer to Nazis than punks.
Isaiah Price
Based mr. Weasley
Hunter Butler
Also Chomsky is so deep in his armchair cushions he's starting to find pennies from when his old ass worked in a newspaper stand.
Brayden Allen
WTF, when did he make this flip?
Xavier Bailey
MAYN STREAM METEOR BTFO
Aaron Mitchell
Guys, the whole point is not really who's left or right. I think I mislead everyone. The point is that, just like Lyndon said, the right is receiving the same censorship that the Sex Pistols did.
That's why he said it was like a political Sex Pistol. He could come out against Trump for all I care, but he was right about the censoring part. He probably only supports Trump because Trump is receiving the same treatment they once did. Which is fine.
Matthew Myers
>it is impossible to be the dominant culture and the counter-culture simultaneously if only shitlibs could work that out for themselves
Ryan Sanchez
I mean he did stab her to death lol. Your "main baskets" analogy is confusing as shit. What does the "top of the main basket" mean?
Wyatt Foster
of course he does he's Alt Right
Jayden Scott
No one gives a fuck about Johnny rotten anymore.
He should have just died in the 80's before he could fuck up the sex pistols revival.
Isaiah Russell
>the whole point is not really who's left or right. This should be the point. Niggers always forget this once their guy gets in office.
Angel Watson
Lol this fucking delusion is delicious It's like a fine wine to my OLT RIOGHT taste buds
Asher Perez
Most musicians and other creative types are shitlibs, or at least beta enough to go along with it. It's unfortunate but ultimately not worth worrying about, most of them are uninformed idiots about anything outside their chosen field so why care about their opinions?
Also I assume that part of it is that, like Hollywood, they have Big Jew breathing down their necks and it's easier to get work if you express politically correct opinions.
Jayden Torres
Give me a place where the punk/hardcore scene is mostly alt-right.
Literally every DIY venue is mad inclusive and the only people who get stomped are rapists.
Colton Carter
I don't give a shit about punk music I the slightest. I just love that you cunts are all freaking out over this.
You don't understand how much I've grown to hate you fucking leftist
I agree with this post, and I used to be a massive green day fan for years and a former libshit. You couldn't have found a bigger green day fan than me. I memorized literally dozens of their songs, learned to play the intro chords of "wake me up when september ends" on guitar, bought a bunch of their live show albums on DVD, memorized their biography, even digged up their really old material and rare releases. I even remember I listened to Dookie one day on the bus and vividly imagined myself moving to America and settling down in California and becoming a punk there.
That band used to be my entire life for 3-4 years of my life. Then they had this retarded incident about Usher stealing their performance time where BJ chimped out like a manchild, and of course, then they went all "MUH DRUMPF".
I am not even mad or anything about this anymore, I guess this is just a fact of life and I have to move on from childhood, gotta join the fight and save that white race now.
music is just music bruv i still listen to crass and other crust punk bands
Juan Butler
Sure thing, I do still listen to some of the rock music, for example I still love shoegaze even half a year after the redpill, but can't just listen to green day anymore, because I am too much changed to relate to it anymore.
Easton Russell
greenday was never punk rock
Easton Murphy
this.
Cooper Ramirez
not even dookie?
Cameron Flores
basket-case? just dont watch the videos thats when the jewish lies creep in
Thomas Wright
Yeah, even ignoring the whole RAC crowd there's a ton of punks who are/were right-leaning. Johnny Ramone of the Ramones, Lee Ving of Fear, a lot of the Misfits, Ian Curtis of Joy Division (actually post-punk but that's even rarer), Billy Zoom and Exene from X, Combat 84 (great Oi! band, often get accused of being RAC but they're not), actually a lot of Oi! that isn't even RAC has a working-class right-wing bent to it.
Heck, even a ton of the left-leaning punks would nowadays fall out of favour with the progressives.
Daniel Ross
everything that comes after the insomniac I couldn't possibly stand anymore, too bluepilled, and even his older material is a long stretch
what would realistically happen is that I would at one point become depressed that I can't un-redpill myself and go back to the blissful ignorance, and would kill myself. Sorry, sounds a bit dramatic, but you get the point I hope.
Daniel Martin
Good thing the moustachioed manic has abandoned ship. Best timing. Shittiest newspaper next to the daily constitutional
Isaac Price
In 2016 he was talking shit about Trump, he's flip-flopping for attention. He is a washed up has been with a shitty experimental band clawing for relevancy, like every celebrity Trump supporter.
Adam Johnson
Yeah, Johnny Rotten, definitely one of the most working class motherfuckers of them all. Fuck off, sheep.
Ayden Diaz
Sounds like a good idea to me. You should do that. Kill yourself, I mean. Don't worry about the other stuff.
Blake Ward
>Anyone know any alt right or right wing punk bands that have always been right wing? Estonian punks from the 80's have always been right wing. They were protesting USSR with their songs and adopted right-wing views to do so, being nationalists. They were the first to bring out estonian flag in the end of the 80's in mass gatherings, because they were low-lives who had nothing to lose, so they didn't fear being arrested or beaten by the cops/KGB.
Funnily enough, most of the old estonian punks have retained right-wing views, one female punk from 80's has often spoken out that there is a need for nationalism, that she hates commies and such.
Pic related, one of the old punks, since even in estonia, young punks are skinny-jeans green-anarchist vegan "nazi punks fuck off" emofaggots like in all the other western countries.
Here's a vid. This old punk band JMKE is literally the most popular punk band in our music history, they are even known in Finland. Literally every estonian who is younger than 50 years old has heard of them.
My digits were higher than your digits, I win. Kill yourself now, thanks.
Jace Ross
you have a little sense of humor for a shill, have a (((you)))
Parker Williams
Tbhf Green Day only had 2 good albums, their first 2. Their best song they ripped off of Jeff Mangum.
Andrew Hill
I'm a leftist, not a shill. The world is a joke, but I love it and would rather not see it burn so the memes may live on. As far as I can tell, the right wing wants the immediate destruction of Earth and everyone present on it to die, including themselves, similar to the Abrahamic death cults. I don't like being called a shill. I am not paid to care about people living full, satisfactory lives. I care about the world, I love the world. I love you as a brother, and it pains me to see you be so blase about death.
Mason Cook
Anarchy is against big government, but the left is totally for big government. Liberals are to retarded to get that and they think they have more in common with punk.
Crass did a good song about it.
Dominic Lewis
If that were the case, then how come I am considered a social anarchist? I used to think like you, but then I went to community college for a semester and learned that what you are doing is called black and white thinking, and the world is not a black and white place. It's one of the most flawed fallacies you can employ.
Adrian Nguyen
But I am not suicidal, I was joking. It's a siberian basket-weaving imaginations forum, I can afford to exaggerate my claims in here.
Also, props for being honest but I don't get what are you doing here if you are a leftist? What, did /leftypol/ become boring for you and you decided to shitpost here?
Nathan Johnson
A lot of the punk rockers and metal heads from the day wore nazi stuff. Many later came out and said it was either ironic or looked cool to them, but that's bullshit.
Aiden Collins
No, I just like feeling like a beacon of rationalism in a sea of paranoid diarrhea.
Matthew Murphy
Socialism is not social. Wherever he took power, he exploited his people even more mercilessly than he did in the capitalist countries he had criticized. Socialism led to the equality of all men. But this was an equality in bitter poverty. Socialism destroyed whole formerly prosperous states, destroyed their economic structure and made the masses impoverish.
Nolan Rodriguez
Actually, this user brings up an interesting point which is that a lot of the Eastern European punk bands were quite right-wing, largely due to them being anti-government under Communist governance. I know at the very least that members of the Polish Coldwave band Aya RL formed Kukiz'15 and the Russian Punk band Grazhdanskaya Oborona formed the National Bolshevik party, both right-leaning political groups.
Sebastian Walker
they've allways been a leftie band. It all started with songs like holiday and American idiot
Elijah Murphy
I am glad that you connected the dots, I think it's a fairly interesting phenomenon. I would like to educate more western europeans and americans on this one day, since as much as I hate the PJW's "cohnservateesm es the new ponk roke" meme, it really is true that every nihilist movement is highly useful to bring about a collapse of a mainstream culture of some kind.
As a token of gratitude to these right wing punks who encoraged people to stand up against soviets, most of our conservatives or nationalists do not openly speak out against punks being degenerates (even though everyone knows that punks are degenerates) but even speak adoringly of them, with some kind of nostalgic undertone.
Joshua Morris
You can't force socialism in an already resource-poor country. The United States could very easily handle socialism. The climate is perfect, we hold power over everyone with our debt, which seems totally backward, but it works. We have the automation technology and the innovators to work for us to develop more automation, with the United States spearheading socialist development, within a century, the people of the world would never have to work another day in their lives. The United States will deliver post-energy-scarcity, and eventually post-food-scarcity. When Elon Musk gets his fusion project running, we'll be kangz.
Dominic Harris
>loser quotes articlee debunking news with 12 months old article.
kek
>working class has spoke >I am working class
t. sex pistols guy
Gavin Rogers
You applied a learned analogy from a one of your liberal professors completely out of context here.
Kys fgt
Ryder Smith
Fuck yeah i love the pistols they're one of a kind..
Also lydon is a really smart guy if you read up on him