If People Could Immigrate Anywhere, Would Poverty Be Eliminated?

Here is an Analogy:
Marvin is very hungry and is trying to travel to the marketplace to buy some food. Another person, Sam (Sam has a large number of nephews and nieces, so we'll call him Uncle Sam), decides to stop Marvin from going to the marketplace using coercion. He goes down there with his M16 and blocks the road. As a result, Marvin can't trade for food and, as a result, he starves. So then the question is, did Sam kill Marvin? Did he violate his rights? Almost anyone would say yes, Sam acted wrongly. In fact, if Marvin died as a result, then Sam killed him. It wouldn't be that Sam failed to help Marvin. No, he actively intervened....This is analogous to the U.S. government's immigration policy. There are people who want to trade in our marketplace, in this case the labor market, and the government effectively prevents them from doing that, through use of force.

>pic related, there are no lines and borders from space.

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instead what if we print infinite money and grow infinite food and purify all the ocean water and give ti all to everyone for free?

first audit the federal reserve

Pakis, Indians and blacks are still poor in Britain. So the answer is no. Oh and Muslims are scum of the earth so don't count as humans

dont ferget open borders

Actually everyone would be poor, all these sandniggers and niggers immigrating to countries for gimedat would eventually make our global system collapse. The problem is that someone that cannot be assimilated should not be allowed to immigrate because that person will only takes benefits without giving anything back.

>If [X], Would Poverty Be Eliminated?
No. If you think eliminating poverty is even a possibility, I suggest you ditch the magical world-view and re-take high school physics* and biology**

*thermodynamics runs the world, bitches. No free lunch is literally a law of the universe

**reducing poverty amounts to increasing average wealth. When that extra wealth is available, the biological niche is expanded. What the fuck do you think happens next in an expanded niche? We increase our population to fill it.

better analogy

Marvin and his friends are sitting around in their part of the world, doing nothing, accomplishing nothing, wallowing in pools of feces and mud. They're happy like this, for the most part aside from when one of them rapes and murders another.

Sam and his friends decide they're not happy with wallowing in shit for all eternity, so they decide to build things and be creative. They invent houses, cars, ways of providing more food for their families. They're successful, happy and productive.

Marvin sees this and gets jealous. Why does Sam get to have everything and he and his family gets nothing? Marvin doesn't consider the fact that Marvin and his kin have done nothing with their lives and never bothered to try to improve their situation. They beg Sam, "please, oh great Sam, give me stuff for nothing."

Sam looks at their lot and things 'wow, that really sucks, we should give them a little bit of our wealth to help them get a foothold to improving their lives.' and provides them food, water, medicine and aid, even sending some of his kids to help show them how to farm and build houses.

Marvin and his friends have other ideas however, now that they receive help from Sam they don't need to work ever again! And thus begins Marvin's life of living off handouts that everyone else provides for him.

Some of Marvin's friends however want to go to Sam's house and get things provided for them directly, but they don't want to wait in line like everyone trying to get there fairly.

Eventually, after cutting to the front of the line and getting in, they find that they're getting kicked back out because they didn't wait their turn! So instead of learning their lesson and trying to improve their lives, they continue to rely on handouts from Sam and continue to try to skip the line to get into the wonderful place Sam has created for his family, never learning to be good people or try to do anything for themselves ever.

No it would fuck everything up

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No it would make everyone poor because the incompetent and incapable would go from successful nation to successful nation like a plague of locusts and all would be left poverty stricken.

A literal Zombie apocalypse

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>would poverty be eliminated

How is your random african going to get a job in the US or Europe?

They will most likely be:

>below average iq
>can't speak your language
>have little to no education
>can't read or write

That just screams employable

Now let's get intersectional here. Intersectional between that basic physical law and and the less-basic but still valid laws of evolution. What the fuck happens when you cross the two?

It tells you that poverty is a default state of life, and can never be eliminated so long as life exists. In every species, there is poverty. It manifests as things like famine, inability to find a territory, etc. Poverty is more normal than its opposite.

bit of a black pill

Youre alright, leaf

Here's your analogy:

Fuck Marvin, he doesn't deserve shit.

No. Her is a short video that explains why.
youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

But the premise is different in both cases.

Law allows Marvin to buy food at the market place.
Law doesn't allow people to travel anywhere they want.
Also, a marketplace is made to provide people with food; a nation isn't made to provide all of humanity with wealth. This brings us to another point - Marvin would've paid for the food, giving the supermarket something in return. Immigration is similar in that regard. If you provide a function to the nation you want to immigrate to, you'll most likely be admitted.

I don't get your point.

The market belong to Sam?
Why Marvin didnt work to have his own market?
Why Marvin is a lazy faggot?
Why your analogy is fucking retarded and does not concern with reality?
Why are ancaps so retarded?

No, just spread

lets tkae the easiest analogy there is to this, and that is inside each of our countries. when a country starts getting economic development and some traction, big cities emerge. if these countries have a substantial rural population, or indigenous population, like latin america, these people will start moving for jobs to the big cities.

cities generally dont have so much work for everyone so many of them end up in very low skilled jobs, like car washing, painting, or street vendors. they have plenty of kids, since theyre not educated. these kids will end u poor, thus starting the urban poor cycle. they grow up in the outskirts of cities, where drug moves around if theres no security. the kids grow up to be criminals solidifying their poor cycle for always.

this is called a favela, its what would happen in your scenario. the answer is no. no country can adopt every poor person and give it a job sustainably, it will never happen

The majority of third world/nonwhite immigrants don't want to trade in the labour market though; they want gibs.

>This is what libertarianiggers beleve

You left ou tthe part where Marvin puts a lot of food in his shopping card then makes Uncle Sam pay for it while doing nothing for uncle Sam in return. In fact Marvin wanted filet mignon but uncle sam could only afford to get him a chicken so Marvin goes on social media and shit talks uncle sam while his market goods cooks in a stove paid and powered by uncle sam's money.

oh by the way forgot the worse part. if these big emergent cities attract so much poor people, and if these people dont get out of the cycle in less than 3 generations, they absolutely start getting communist ideas and resentment of higher classes. even WHEN the cities or countries offer free education and other means of self achievement. politicians then start to pander specifically to this perpetually poor class of underworld people. this my niggers is what hapens in third world countries in what is called the middle income trap

This experiment has already been done by nature.

It's called locusts.

this, surprisingly pablo hernadez gets it. this entirely. perfect example is US with 30 million or more or less illegals sucking on welfare tit. same with germany, france, sweden and on and on and on with this (((immigration))). shit libs always say they are bringing their skill into the country. what skills are they bringing? if they had any skills they wouldnt be a third world shit hole like middle east or south america.
>If People Could Immigrate Anywhere, Would Poverty Be Eliminated?
no, then you just have all the poor useless people going to big citys and doing nothing begging for gibs in return for their bigger government votes. from their you see flight of people who are successful to the now empty lands just like what happened to Detroit.

There's actually a big gap between what was immigration (immigrant giving something in return to a nation) and what it really is now, a huge amount of muslims immigrating in the past few years did it to abuse our broken welfare system. That's why so many are invading europe pretending to be a war refugee when actually only 1 out of 5 is an actual war refugee. I don't have numbers for every welfare they receive in european countries. But here in Canada those muslim immigrants receive $3600/month of welfare, more than the average household income. Good thing that the Atlantic ocean is there to keep them from illegally coming here by boats, otherwise we would be in a worst situation than Germany and Trudeau would have 100% chances to be reelected in 2019.

underrated and saged for slide thread

But what if Marvin is a lazy nigger that would get 10 kids if he could?

Nice get

bullshit hypothetical scenario.

fuck marvin. fuck sam. fuck you.