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>overturn a yet-to-take-effect regulation

My life doesn't change.

Friendly reminder the legislation is just a regulatory bandaid for America's ISP oligopoly, and we wouldn't need regulation like this in a competitive marketplace.

pol posters are really stupid and will defend it directly or in some half-assed roundabout way because admitting you were wrong on the internet is akin to disemboweling yourself

They are mirroring all ISP traffic anyways you're fucked.

I don't want freedom. I want Christian Fascism to btfo, with the kids you're not having.

>ISPs collect huge amounts of data on the websites people visit, including medical, financial and other personal information. The FCC regulation would have required ISPs to ask permission before selling that information to advertisers and others, a so-called opt-in provision.

Do you at least get paid to slobber over those corporate boots? At least I could (sort of) understand that.

Otherwise you sound no better than those fuckwits who base all their decisions on whether people they don't like support something or don't regardless of what it is.

>giving away privacy for the sake of corporate greed
Why are you ok with this

>free market idiocy
Yes, because then they could just fuck us directly without protection.

I think the bill is bad who agrees

>overturning a regulation that was never in effect
great use of taxpayer money

>I'm a huge retard that enjoys paying money for providing a service to big corporations

t. millenial who has nothing to hide :^)

>a lot of times there is only 1 isp in a town
>they would all just put a requirement in the sign-up agreement that you have to sell your information to them anyways
Wow we're fucked anyways
Tor 2.0 when

Reminder to all leafs that we never had any laws like this. This means the US and Canada will be parity in terms of what ISPs can do with your data so STFU.

BTW so far no ISP in Canada sells your data and it will probably never happen just as it never happened in the US.

this
the only real option is to outlaw selling your data in the first place, but that will never fucking happen

Don't they already do this? What doesn't Google, the government, and any other corporation already know about us?

What does this regulation change?

>Tor 2.0 when

Whenever the CIA wants to do their next psyop.

>This constant media shilling
The regulation wasn't in effect. The argument against it is the usual "prices go up, quality goes down". I don't like the spying, but this exact same regulation is shot down every year, but only suddenly matters when it is a Republican controlled government with Trump in charge. Really activated the old almonds.

Self check

Seriously, I have no clue on how this bill would work. I already go on a website and get directed advertisements.

The regulation was created in October 2016 and was not set to take effect until 2018. This is literally nothing but another useless Obama regulation getting BTFO.

I don't know well how datamining works, but what if someone were to make a program that visits a crapload of sites that the user isn't really interested in?
For example, all kinds of sicknesses, loan sites, banks, stock exchange, etc.?
Basically, burying the relevant information under a mountain of shit.
Would that be effective to deter the modern obsession with spying people's data?

>Le nothing to hide man

God I hate you guys sometimes. You are truly double niggers

I've thought about this before, some sort of "noise generator" program to run to fuck with whoever is collecting data, but I figure it would take up a ton of CPU power to run in the background. Maybe someone on Sup Forums can figure it out.

You can actually block their tracking with tools provided by the EFF or things like uBlockOrigin which prevent JavaScript programs from tracking you in browser. Even easier, you can choose to not use Google without opting out of the internet entirely.

No such protections exist for preventing your ISP from monitoring your web activity, save for not using the internet entirely or shelling out monthly for a proper VPN. (an act your ISP can see which likely will garner suspicion)

It's further compounded by the monopoly which many ISPs, such as Comcast and Charter, have over large parts of the US. You already have little choice but to be tracked if you want web access and this reduces it further, in essence. If you don't like the idea of Google tracking you, this should make you scream.

It figures someone with no understanding of what's happening would support this. Keep licking those boots m80, might get you a job if you keep it up.

They sort of exist in the form of things like ruinmysearchhistory.com...Idk what you can do about your ISP (which can see the entirety of your web activity, vs just what you search) though. Oh and checked

What's the difference between "web activity" and "search history" to an ISP?

Google and the works can only really get an identity of you if you willingly give it up. Those specific advertisements are only from searches made on your ip address and cookies which is nothing. Your ISP has a name to go with all the data they collect and may not let you agree to opt out, Whether they can use your name or not i'm not entirely sure. But still they shouldn't get the right to sell your data when your already paying them for the service. It may end up them charging you more for privacy options or not offering you a service at all. And from what i've heard you Country has a problem with ISP monopolies. Where in a lot of parts there's no alternative so they can really gouge you with their prices.

what privacy, nigger? the internet is public. get on your own private network, then talk about privacy.

but wait- you don't want a private network. you want a public network... but private. retarded.

>Useless
So I guess making it so that ISPs have to get your permission before they use and sell your data is "useless"?

There are people talking about how the FTC is the right place to regulate this, but
1.) The FCC rules were pre-emptive, and the FTC right now can only allow people to seek legal recourse AFTER harm has been done, and
2.) The FTC may get its power over privacy and such fucked over. The ruling in the court case FTC v. AT&T Mobility made it so that the FTC can't regulate privacy rules on ISPs in a handful of states, and ISPs may work to ensure that it's the same everywhere. Then there's
3.) The potential for new privacy rules to never be implemented because Congress is a clusterfuck of gridlock and AT&T, Verizon et al would start their autistic screeching if the FTC tried to implement new rules themselves, claiming that they'd be "Discouraging investment" or "harming innovation."

Stuff like this is just a consequence of living in the information age. You pay for an internet connection in order to have access to data all over the world, but you are not somehow immune to this as the world has access to you also.

If you don't like it, stop using the internet. This kind of stuff is not going away.

You really are a stupid nigga.

t. Natsoc that that skipped the ancap phase.

>muh privacy
stopp fapping to fucked up shit

Yeah, I'm sure you won't mind posting your credit card info to this "public" forum next time you buy something on Amazon.

People have figured out how to transit data privately over public networks. The point is that it's never implemented properly; it's covered with backdoors because people allow it.

"If you aren't doing anything wrong, then you have nothing to hide"

BUT LOL LIBERALS & DEMOCRATS, RIGHT GUYS?

i was wrong

what if you're running a vpn

fpbp

My internet life will remain the same as it has for the past 20 years.

HEY GUYS, DON'T YOU REGRET VOTING FOR DRUMPF?

DON'T YOU THINK PJW/CERNOVICH/LAUREN/ALEX JONES/COULTER/MILO/STEPHEN ETC. ETC. SUCK?

AREN'T THEY LAME?

I'M NOT A SHILL OR ANYTHING

Web activity is literally everything you do on the internet, which an ISP will have access to. Search history is merely what you're willing to divulge to a single entity like Google, and honestly will be far smaller unless you're literally doing all your web activity through that single entity.

For instance, you can use duckduckgo to significantly mitigate how much Google can gather about you, but you'd have to switch ISPs entirely to prevent the one ISP you don't like from tracking you (and then it's just switching who's tracking you).

Get it?

How was I wrong about anything? Gop are geriatrics who love lobbyist paydays and dems are literally fucking communists. Nothing has changed.

Holy fuck Sup Forums is full of corporate shills, time to move to infinite-chan...

They'll likely add you to a list and watch for whenever you're not on it. It's better than nothing tho obv

Make me.

Enjoy your super specific porn ads you tried to hide your searches for by using duckduckgo :^)

This. Nothing has changed. Ultimately pol will always stand for freedom, but when it came to Hillary VS Trump. Trump wins every time. When it comes to our government vs Trump, Trump wins everytime. When it comes to Democrat vs Republican Republican will win everytime. Life isn't black and white its shades of grey.

>ruinmysearchhistory
mfw I just did that and it rain "ways to kill someone hypothetically" and then ran something about poisons
my fucking sides

Yes, so wouldn't a noise generating program confuse the ISPs just as well as the search engines tracking you?

This. There should be easily accessible, FREE tools available to allow people to keep their info private from ISPs. Clearly-labeled settings and agreements (that AREN'T clogged with legalese that takes forever to read) in a person's ISP account settings would have been the best way to go.

>this is what leftcucks actually believe

Why should we have to go through all the trouble when we can just tell ISPs "no"?

>DON'T YOU THINK PJW/CERNOVICH/LAUREN/ALEX JONES/COULTER/MILO/STEPHEN ETC. ETC. SUCK?
Yes they do, and Sup Forums always rightfully treated most of them as fucking jokes.
Kill yourself redditor.

>implying you have any remaining privacy in current year
dumb goyim

the more users there are on the original for network the more masked your browsing will be. Use VPNs and all that good shit

Kill yourself you worthless luddite.

Is Trump going to do aomething about this?

Show me a single successful country without safety, trade, labor, environment, etc. regulations and I'll show you a country where complete Communism has worked.

Neither extreme is feasible because humans are pragmatic, not idealists. The same reason we have laws to tell someone not to murder is the same reason we have laws telling a company not to dump their toxic waste in the nearby stream. Would it be nice if they were ethically beholden to the greater good? Sure.

But they're not. Now fuck off, huehuehue.

You're talking about something that now has to mask the entirety of your web activities instead of just your searches on a couple search engines. Certainly not impossible but super far from trivial, especially if it's gonna be free. Good fucking luck m80.

Because nobody takes "no" for an answer.

>2017
>privacy in the facebook and google era


lel

Of course it'd be great if we could, but we all know that the bootlickers would give them the power to see through their windows at night if they could, and then beg them to pay their masters for such a privilege.

The point about data security/privacy is that the big guys are always going to try to pick on us, either directly through the law like here, or in secret like through the NSA/backdoors/etc. The users need to be proactive in defending themselves from adversaries because the big guys are NOT on our side.

Which full circle comes back to why regulations protecting a customer's privacy are necessary.

That is legit a red mark against Trump (kinda).

He can't get congress to pass /ourbills/ but they're passing laws that are actively against our interests.

Third world problems.

The entire point of all this was to switch oversight of ISPs to the FTC instead of the FCC because the FCC literally has the power to restrict what can and cannot be communicated within the USA.

You dumb faggots believe everything the media tells you at face value and then wonder later why things are so fucked up.

Implying most of us aren't already using VPN's.

>what is vault7

They've always watched us anyway.

My vpn dont work on here though...

>he doesn't know the average Sup Forums user has ascended to the next stage of Internet evolution, full degenerate transparency

Bitch I want people to see my black midget tranny gator-fucking collection

It might fuck with algorithms designed to identify types of users.

At face value that sounds terrible. And the their official excuse for doing this is honestly pathetic. Even by politician standards.

On the other hand, weren't corporations and the government already collecting everything anyway? Aren't they just doing so openly now?

>that one extra paragraph I scrolled through on the TOS is going to be the deal breaker

Are you autism manifest?

What makes you think they arent already doing all of this? This whole thing is just a play for the population.

There are non because every government succumbs to bloat. Let's do a thought experiment though:
>we live in a completely free market
>there are no government mandated monopolies on ISPs
>therefore, you have a wide selection of options for internet in your area
>it comes out that Cable Company A wants to sell your data to corporations
>you don't want that to happen
>therefore, you switch to Cable Company B who offers the same service for a similar price because they have to stay competitive

Regulations should only exist to protect consumers.

This is what happens when the government is mostly run by old people that don't know shit about computers and internet. Fire all those old fucks because they should be retiring, not continue working thill they die of old age.

I wonder if they keep shooting down his healthcare bill in an attempt to keep him busy while they fuck everyone over.
Trump can do something though. He can veto whatever faggotry they try to put in front of him.

He's going to sign it into law.

He's asking for Civil War if he does and pisses off his supporters because of that. What the hell is he doing? It will damage the nation, not help it as he's supposed to be doing.

wtf i hate republicans now

Thought experiments are fine. But this won't work because we historically know how monopolies work. And certain industries (i.e. those that require high start-up investments) generally are more prone to it, such as telecoms, energy, transportation, etc.

Company A will at a certain point buy Company B. Then you'll have Company AB who has NO reason to lower prices past a certain point because what are you, as a single customer, going to do about it?

Too bad monopolistic ISP's block little ISP's from using PUBLICLY FUNDED internet infrastructure. The majority of Americans are being cucked by broadband titans right now and wont switch because they're retarded. The cattle need to be herded in the right direction, and this is not the right direction

>Regulations should only exist to protect consumers.
So exactly what the FCC was doing before?

Before the FCC's 2015 Open Internet Order, the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) was the primary regulator of companies' privacy and data security practices. The FTC had the authority to bring enforcement actions against companies who engaged in "unfair and deceptive practices." The 2015 reclassification of broadband providers removed internet service providers (ISPs) from the FTC's jurisdiction. On April 20, 2016, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) proposed a rule applying privacy requirements of the Communications Act to Internet Service Providers (ISPs). However, the proposed rule would not apply to edge providers and web sites, like Facebook and Twitter, since they still fall under the FTC's authority.
As you know, Senator Jeff Flake of Arizona introduced S.J. Res. 34 on March 7, 2017. This resolution would repeal the FCC's privacy rules. I do not believe a two-track system in which the FCC regulates ISPs while the FTC monitors the rest of the internet ecosystem is good for consumers. For this reason I cosponsored S.J. Res 34.

N O T A N A R G U M E N T

>implying we had any

Wow I guess NSA, CIA, Facebook, and Amazon are all off the hook now.

Why I love privacy now.

OBAMA gave the Internet over to China you stupid faggot liberal shill. Yes, King Nigger is the cause of all of this. China is harvesting all data 24/7. Congress overturned it to take that data farming away from China.

Stupid lefty shill cunt

Let's crowdfund buying information from the ISPs of congressmen and senators families browsing habits then release it. I bet it gets fixed real fast.

If thats the case, the article should've been more clearer about it.

bgr.com/2014/03/14/home-internet-service-competition-lacking/amp/

>Almost one third of U.S. households have no choice for broadband internet service


And I'm betting the other choices are between Comcast or CenturyLink.

To add: what this also halts is SHAREBLUE and CREW from attacking people online as it falls under business rules now, allowing the government to freely monitor what exactly these businesses are posting online, and to take action against them.

You fucking pirate faggots need to fuck off. This ends shilling online, giving it an entity which can be fined or sued.

Enjoy your party van when Sup Forums is declared a hate site and your ISP reports your (and all of ours, really) activities to the govt, cucklord.

I'm not disagreeing but has this ever been proven scientifically?

>economics
>scientific

kek, surely you jest

Comcast or Verizon here.

I wish we were like some US cities that are starting up government broadband.

Trump wont stop Sup Forums

youtube.com/watch?v=3E_mnSN-9TM

You do realize that if the gov was interested in persecuting anyone for being in this site, there are already mechanisms in place to allow them to identify you, right?

Is there any historical precedent at least?

>cant spell lugenpresse without npr

Honestly?

I can't think of a single one. Maybe the software application (not OS/Drivers) industry?

So you have no problem if the mail lady opens your mail?