>The Republican-controlled US House of Representatives on Tuesday repealed privacy rules that would have required internet service providers such as Comcast and Time Warner Cable to get consumers' consent before selling or sharing their web browsing data with advertisers and other companies.
>"Consumers should be in control of their own information," Rep. Jared Polis, (D-Colo.) said in testifying against the bill. "They shouldn't be forced to sell and give that information to who-knows-who simply for the price of admission for access to the internet."
>The vote overturned rules passed in October by the Federal Communications Commission that tightened limits on what internet service providers (ISPs) could do with their users' data. The rules, which would have taken effect later this year, required ISPs to notify consumers about the type of information they collect, and obtain their consent, before selling it to third parties. The rules also made ISPs more accountable for preventing data breaches.
>The measure was passed on a 215-to-205 vote, with most Republicans in favor of the repeal and most Democrats against. It still needs to be signed by President Donald Trump before it will become law, though that appears to be a given after the White House expressed support for the repeal on Tuesday.
And Democrats voted to allow thousands of dangerous foreigners into America with out knowing jack shit about them other than they will vote democrat.
James Hall
Thats not what OP was talking about. Immigration is an important issue, but so is internet privacy
Andrew Cook
>B-BUT THE DEMOCRATS--
That's not an argument.
Dominic Mitchell
>concerned about internet privacy Yes yes that's all well and good until that is you realise Obongo is the one who dramatically expanded state surveillance and as an example to those who exposed it punished Manning with a show trial all the whilst he was tortured.
Glad the Democrats have their priorities right.
Landon Taylor
Im a republican and I get sick of one side or the other trying to justify everything they do unconditionally. This but the democrats! Is a red herring
Andrew Cook
anyone else feel like the guillotine is going to make a comeback?
i can feel it in the air
my spidey sense is tingling
Daniel Wood
only for racists and fascists
Jacob Thompson
I understand that, but OP is talking about companies being able to sell users information without their consent. Please read the article in completion before posting so you don't unintentionally steer the thread away from the current topic
Hunter Cox
This isn't about obama either you retarded trump apologist scum.
>OP: republicans did a bad thing >you: but but but ombama was worse guys, get your priorities straight
nice argument.
Daniel Jones
>remove government control from the internet >there are very easy steps you can take to protect your data
That is a tu qoque fallacy. The Democrats doing something wrong doesn't justify in any way what the Republicans just did.
Adam Rivera
>this isn't about Obama But it is its the pot calling the kettle black. You can't suddenly take up an issue and feign concern when you have had no qualms about things far worse that were previously green lighted.
In law you cannot claim remedies of equity without first coming to court with clean hands so why do you think critics of Trump who previously had no qualms with State surveillance now have any right to be concerned about internet privacy?
Jackson Green
As long we aren't being spied on by the CIA and NSA and Facebook isn't selling all of our info to anyone with money, I'm fine.
James Sanchez
do you actually know what you re talking about? or are you another retard from plebit that doesnt know what any of this means. >repealed privacy rules that would have required internet service providers >WOULD right now they have been able to sell your information for years, nothing has changed. maybe your future privacy could be better if that thing was passed. but no they didnt vote to allow the ISP to sell your shitty information. also >implying the websites you browse do not sell your information anyway. KYS
Camden Parker
Wow you sure beat up that strawman. The straw went everywhere. It was utterly wrecked. The man of straw had no chance.
Luke Jenkins
Please oh please
John Carter
>Meme magic memes trump into the white house >GOP passes law allowing the sale of browser history >employers check background with browser histories >meme magic morons can't get jobs or get fired from jobs when they find out they browse Sup Forums >GOP voted out
You see, it's all part of the master plan. Just like you saw with Paul Ryan's healthcare plan, GOP just doesn't like winning.
Jace Taylor
let's watch the donald trump dick suckers try to defend this
OH SHIT THEY CAN'T, only change the subject. LOL
Jace Bennett
Both parties suck for the fact that all of these politicians will sell us out for a fucking dollar. They are scum, both parties no matter what. The only difference is the method they use to fuck us over.
Hudson Smith
Oy vey.
Adam James
They always could you moronic faggot The only question whether you're paid to have this dumb opinion or if you're just legitimately ignorant
Colton White
Well why the fuck did they do that?
Angel Fisher
personal information can't be sold or given away
The cable act of 1984 protects such information still. The obama regulations are new as of dec 2016 and did not change anything regarding personal information.
This is PR bullshit. The dec 2016 new rules didn't protect your personal information at all and getting rid of them doesn't change anything.
TLDR: Your P.I.I. aka personal info is protected under Cable act of 1984 Obama's new rules only stopped ISP from selling general and anonymous information. Which all other web services sell (facebook and google both sell this info)
The change in privacy is zero. The new act being removed was over regulation and was new as of 2016.
So basically your privacy never changed. If you felt fine in 2015 the rules are the same in 2017. Cable act protects your PII.
Nathan Evans
Take a wild guess.
Jaxon Sanders
It's just spin.
Your personal information is protected and has been protected under the cable act of 1984.
Obama's new regulations only effected anonymous and generalized data and only from the ISP.
So basically google, under obama's new changes, still could sell any data they want without opt in.
Now, the rules go back to how they have always been before dec 2016. ISP can't sell personal info. The rules for ISP and websites are the same on this.
Austin Ross
Wasted trips
This only hurts America . fuck yourself shill
Cameron Campbell
>Americans will defend this
Adrian White
Republicans have been corporate shills forever. The guy who started this literally received millions from telecom interest groups
Wyatt Morales
Thus guys got it.
Levi Howard
I HURT MYSELF TODAY...
Justin Reed
This change is pointless
If they want to protect privacy they should have generalized it to web sevices and to ISP.
The carve out only affecting ISP made it so you don't actually have any more privacy. Getting rid of the carve out on ISPs makes sense.
From 2015 to 2017 there are no changes privacy wise. If you didn't care in 2015, you won't care today.
Asher Nguyen
#TweetTheResistance from your Chrome browser on the win10 platform and earn Coupons!
Luke Scott
I sure as hell won't. This shit need to end
Wyatt Brown
I won't. We need to get big money out of politics.
Carson Kelly
Here is what is happening in terms retards can understand.
There is a law against murder from 1984 They named a new law in 2016, "The anti-Murder law" When people get rid of the new law because it's pointless, the media goes crazy and say murder will now be legal
Your private information is still and alwyays been protected under cable act of 1984.
The media disinfo is spreading false and misleading information about how this new change is a big deal.
Ian Martinez
#TweetTheResistance from your Android(R) device that sells your information and makes a gps map of everywhere you've ever went and guesses what you did there! (check your google settings)
Anthony Ross
giving the government more control over the internet is not in the interest of our privacy. The whole scheme about selling it is spin because it may be possible to do if the leftists dont maintain control over internet regulation.
yeah. not buying it.
not that I think ISPs are good companies, I know they are just not as bad as the government.
Michael Martin
Why get rid of the new law even if there still is an old law on the books? Seems pointless to me.
Luke Cruz
Civil War when?
Grayson Perry
The funny thing is the tech companies made damn sure your privacy wasn't protected under OBama's last minute rules.
It was probably anti-ISP simply because they backed republicans.
If they cared about privacy they would actually protect your data. They don't give a single fuck and this law changed nothing privacy wise.
You can still contact ISP and opt-out. Good luck trying that with google, facebook, or any hardware.
Benjamin Mitchell
Quick should I get an iPhone to replace my Android? This is potentially important.
Brandon Rogers
Who cares? Sup Forums's a good boy who has nothing to hide
Tyler Allen
Damn right. Start stealing money from them.
Christopher Martin
Oh no, my provider will be able to sell the fact that I shitpost on Sup Forums and look at various types of porn that are impossible in real life! Now I'm gonna get bombarded by ads for those!
Evan Taylor
>B-B-B-BUT THE DEMOCRATS! fuck off cunt.
Owen Fisher
The new law stops ISPs from selling any big data information they might have. They might be able to make good money selling that information to advertisers as anonymized bulk data.
The thing is, all websites can do this. Google/fb all make most of their money selling your data and browsing history.
Nolan Hall
Before the FCC's 2015 Open Internet Order, the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) was the primary regulator of companies' privacy and data security practices. The FTC had the authority to bring enforcement actions against companies who engaged in "unfair and deceptive practices." The 2015 reclassification of broadband providers removed internet service providers (ISPs) from the FTC's jurisdiction. On April 20, 2016, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) proposed a rule applying privacy requirements of the Communications Act to Internet Service Providers (ISPs). However, the proposed rule would not apply to edge providers and web sites, like Facebook and Twitter, since they still fall under the FTC's authority. As you know, Senator Jeff Flake of Arizona introduced S.J. Res. 34 on March 7, 2017. This resolution would repeal the FCC's privacy rules. I do not believe a two-track system in which the FCC regulates ISPs while the FTC monitors the rest of the internet ecosystem is good for consumers. For this reason I cosponsored S.J. Res 34.
It doesn't look like rape to me. Also, Ash's Pikachu is male.
Samuel Morris
I am NOT a fucking Democrat and I agree this bill is bullshit. The Republicans fucked up.
Ian Thompson
>ISP notices your interest for antropomorph cartoon porn >sells this info to the new and exciting emerging market of zoophilia therapy >your neighbors are regaled by swathes of promotional postcards from various paraphilia clinics in the area addressed to your name
>they decide not to walk their dog when you're around
Nicholas Turner
>melania vows to fight cyberbullying >now this Are we Trump's SA?
Carson Sanders
You can opt to not use Google/facebook. You also don't pay money to these companies knowing full well you are the product they are selling. This is not true for ISPs. Are you a fucking shill?
Isaac Green
...
Joseph Young
I cared back then .
Jace Rodriguez
>your neighbors are regaled by swathes of promotional postcards from various paraphilia clinics in the area addressed to your name
Paraphilia Clinics are for UNCONTROLLABLE urges. And why would all my neighbors be getting my mail?
Oliver Garcia
With trump, the winning never stops. There will be so much winning that you'll get tired of all the winning.
Chase Richardson
you can opt out by contacting ISP
Joshua Harris
who gives a shit! good !
Aaron Perry
reminder your personal information is still protected as it always has been
The new change only reverses recent regulation that started in Dec 2016.
PII (identifiable information) can not be sold by ISPs. If people can trace the information to you, then you can make a fuck ton of money suing your ISP.
Austin Butler
Idiots. That rule wasnt even implemented yet, so nothing changes, two it wasnt designed to make us any more private, it was designed to give google/facebook more profits.
The only real solutions are:
1) Increase ISP competition, we need more ISPs to pop up. 2) Educate people on how to use the internet with more privacy (wont change much with boomers and normies)
Google/Facebook know more than any ISP since they infiltrate everything online now, https doesn't make a difference, it may hide content from an ISP but not googles or facebooks bots.
Carter Taylor
If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear.
Leo Carter
"""(((Unintentionally)))"""
Owen Martin
That's precisely my point. I can't opt to use a different ISP like I can use DDG instead of google. They have monopolies which are essentially government mandated. Your only options are use their services or go without internet. If your argument is seriously "stop using internet" you're fucking retarded.
Dylan Brown
So, when are ISP's going to start paying me to browse?
Xavier Martinez
cool.
Cameron Bennett
AND TRUMP WILL SIGN IT
ENJOY Sup Forums LACKS
Caleb Nelson
Implying they didn't already do this
Asher Robinson
facebook and google make majority of money selling user's information
this changes nothing. Google has been selling your search data since forever.
Carter King
you can contact the ISP and opt out of any data selling you dumb fuck
That's what I posted. You literally can opt out and they won't be able to sell your shit.
Connor Stewart
Mother Jones is confirmed fake news
Step it up shareblue cucks
Andrew Watson
Send a tweet to him on Twitter to tell him do not sign it.
Jeremiah Ward
Don't watch kiddie porn and you won't be hassled. This is a necessary loss of freedom to secure safety for those who are most vulnerable.
You aren't a pedo, are you?
Joshua Cox
>If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear.
They will know all your history, like medical history, and will discriminate against you.
Christian Gonzalez
>Send a tweet to him on Twitter to tell him do not sign it.
He will and I will post the tweet of him posting him signing it.
Julian Ward
Mother Jones. Top kek. Antifa transexual barista from Reddit detected. You have to go back cunt.
Lucas Thomas
I have to remember 'I'm talking to low IQ monkeys
When you opt-out, you keep your service, they just can't sell any of your data. Also, just keep in mind most ISPs never sold your data when it was completely legal.
Under cable act of 1984, they can't sell identifiable information anyway.
Chase Anderson
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IT'S A SITE I DON'T LIKE SO IT'S NOT TRUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Austin Allen
doesn't comprehend what is going on , duuuuuuuuuuuuuuh hur dur
Andrew Williams
it's basically letting them do what Google (and the NSA much much worse) already do
free market really
Carson Hill
Even if that were true, I shouldn't have to fucking call to opt out. That should be the default.
They shouldn't have the capability to sell my information in the first place. This is a PAID service. You can not compare this to google/facebook.
Really makes you think why democrats would support a rule that gives their major funders even more market domination... oh and go figure "news" websites that use google/facebook advertising and data mining all publish articles on how amazing this rule is.
Landon Perez
Kiss net neutrality bye next. Making America A Middle Eastern Country Again!
Chase Perez
so i'm going away for athletes foot ?
Angel Miller
Pic related
Sebastian Garcia
perhaps its in response to google encroaching on the ISP space and getting less stringent treatment under FTC
>libtards and people who ate low IQ mainstream media narrative believe the following >ISP can literally sell "Jane Doe's website history" for the hghest bidder
It's amazing how fucking hard they spinned this in the media compared to what really changed.
Your personal info has been protected since 1984. This change does not get rid of privacy in any way. All it does is make websites and ISPs have the same rules. You can also opt-out by contacting your ISP. If your ISP sells your personal information that can identify you, you can sue them for lots of money.
In terms of privacy changes, this is basically nothing. The thing is media is spinning it as though the ISP is going to sell your browsing history and your neighbors will know.
Cameron Wilson
Good. You've got to separate the wheat from the chaff somehow.
But in all seriousness, I'm fucked. The things I've said.
Aaron Rivera
Trump manged to fool millions of retards into thinking he was for the people
keep in mind any true privacy change would include both ISPs and websites.
The fact the obama change didn't effect google, facebook, etc shows it had nothing to do with privacy and everything to do with attacking ISPs because they supported republican more financially.
It was just politics and people think it's actually about privacy.
The biggest infringement on privacy is from websites like google and facebook selling your info. You have to wonder why obama didn't touch them in the privacy bill.
Alexander Butler
That will never happen. The government and other powers slowly take away freedom and rights from the people as to not have sudden anger and revolt. They have learned from the past.
Levi Nelson
>le i have nothing to hide meme
enjoy your privacy rights slowly eroding away
Ethan Brown
I use a vpn/tor anyway. I commend you though, when the democrats bitch about anything and everything, it makes me hard.
Liam Morris
Triple checked!
This whole thing though just brings up again for me how both parties selectively SUCK ASS.
Dems are okay on a few issues, they're not all bad. And in some areas, Republicans are simply horrible. Whaddaya gonna do. I'd say kill 'em all, but I don't like the idea of prison. Very un/comfy/.
Now I suppose that theoretically all this information is anonymoose and just taken in aggregate and studied for trends, blah blah. But I do not feel trusting.
This does, of course, open a fantastic market up for ISPs who choose NOT do do this and who will therefore be raking in tons of new customers.
Zachary Cruz
reminder
privacy was always protected under cable act of 1984
Before and after this change the ISP can not sell your personal info.
It's media fake news. All that is changing is how that is regulated.
