When will you accept that leftism is a product of industrialization?
When will you realize that the unfulfilling nature of post-industrial life leads people to support leftists causes, not for the sake of those the cause claims to represent, but for the sake of satisfying an inner need for meaning that has been stolen from mankind by the machines?
When will you take the Ted pill and join in the resistance of the system that is destroying traditional values on a global scale?
Being Ted piled has nothing to do with violence or with the criminal actions of Ted Kaczynski.
Bentley Ross
I've posted about this guy a lot here but the threads don't last long. Probably too deep for Sup Forums. He does actually hate leftists as much as us, he's just realised the truth beyond.
Ian Fisher
This is different type of red pill from Sup Forums
Sup Forums calls everything degenerate implying that civil society is worth saving. Ted is the exact opposite saying it is the source of our misery
Josiah Barnes
My only issue with him is that he doesn't seem to address the pre-industrial leftists. The enlightenment thinkers whose ideas were represented in the French Revolution existed before the industrial Revolution, and he just seems to ignore them despite their obvious leftism and opposition to traditional values.
If Industrialization leads to leftism, then where do they fit into this?
Mason Smith
can someone post the copypasta about leftists in his manifesto please
Ian Martinez
>This is different type of red pill from Sup Forums That's why its called Ted pill.
Bentley Ramirez
and look at what facebook, instagram, snapchat and all the other hellhole social media normie sites have brought us.
Isaac Lewis
I've been reading the manifesto lately. Top tier shit. I'm still processing it all. It's a lot to take in. I kind of want to go visit the guy, but I doubt it's possible.
Justin Wood
I am Ted pilled. He was right about everything but I recognize that there is no way of changing anything, so I accept my demise.
Josiah Long
Exactly He still writes to this day. I bet if you try hard enough and really want to, you can write him a letter. I have no idea how all that works though.
Josiah Sullivan
Sup Forums considers degenerate things which go against nature (God). Industialisation is the ultimate degeneracy because it is the genesis of further degeneracy. It also destroys our humanity and personal meaning. Becoming a worker drone instead of performing actions directly for our survival and the benefit of our family and tribe. The state is not our tribe, it's an abomination foisted upon us by ((( elites ))) to exploit our labour.
Nathaniel Brooks
You can write to him. He responds to letters most of the time. An user here showed us letters that Ted sent him.
Every year that passes by Ted's ideas become more and more relevant. I view him as a modern day prophet because he saw trends back in 1995 that even the futurists and technologists of the day weren't seeing. And he was right about everything.
Elijah James
Fucking try-hards
>anything to get you on another list.
Lincoln Anderson
This is what being Ted pilled is about
>"He claims that revolution, unlike reform, is possible, and calls on sympathetic readers to initiate such revolution using two strategies: to "heighten the social stresses within the system so as to increase the likelihood that it will break down" and to "develop and propagate an ideology that opposes technology."[71] He gives various tactical recommendations, including avoiding the assumption of political power, avoiding any collaboration with leftists, and supporting free trade agreements in order to bind the world economy into a more fragile, unified whole."
Nothing to do with bombing. He only did that to get his message out there, and I believe that wasn't the best way to do it.
Jacob Evans
>implying we're not all mossad
Justin Price
>enlightenment thinkers whose ideas were represented in the French Revolution existed before the industrial Revolution They paved the way for modern degeneracy. Undermining Monarchy, undermined the influence of the church and peoples faith in the virtues and leading a righteous life guided by spiritual principles, to be replaced by arbitrary systems of governance. This also allowed morality to be dictated by man, not God. Just as in the Garden of Eden, the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil, to "judge" and be like Gods, came with a great cost. The fall of Christianity leads to the fall of the family, single motherhood. etc. etc.
Eli Baker
>He still writes to this day. I bet if you try hard enough and really want to, you can write him a letter. I have no idea how all that works though. I wrote to him once, he wrote back, but it was just a bunch of shit about the Bogdanoffs. Apparently they framed him.
Landon Evans
Has Ted taken the Bogpill?
Caleb Gutierrez
It's interesting that the fall of Christianity hasn't meant the fall of religion or God(s). Instead we have created new religions, new Gods and new idols. The religion of transhumanism is an interesting example of this and is slowly getting more and more popular. Transhumanists worship the god of singularity, the savior is technology, the prophets are technologists/futurists (Kurzweil, Musk, Zuckerberg, Brin etc.) and they have heresies (can't question the trends of technology, etc.)
Look around you and see that people are just as religious as before it's just that the gods/idols we worship have changed.
Benjamin Price
I think peacetime medieval society would have been great men, horses and houses would be strong anything pre-industrial revolution would be a struggle but nothing overly malicious or covert would exist
Jordan Sanders
Totally agree. However, religions of old were based on nature, family and culture. The new ones are entirely artificial. Idolatry would be a fitting term.
One could almost say that "progress" is a new religion.
David Bennett
Also, he basically identified the same phenomena as Marx, its just that they both have different opinions on how to react to it.
Lucas Jenkins
Ted is right about some things but ignorant/blue pilled to others. Evidence is his bombing of no-name, do-nothing, non-expert professors and scientists. He just doesn't get the big picture like Hitler did.
Xavier Carter
He's just crazy.
Dominic Anderson
>"progress" is a new religion. No doubt. Just look how fanatical progressives are.
Try questioning homosexuality and transsexualism to a progressive and see how quickly they turn into religious fanatics. It's as if you've committed a huge heresy because you questioned their God (progress).
Logan Watson
Not at all. He's incredibly rational, logical and knowledgeable.
If you read his works you'll find it difficult to question what he is saying because it is so rational.
William Rogers
I agree with this. But Marx, the solution to the capitalist machine which strips people of their humanity is not to replace it with a statist machine which strips people of their humanity.
Maybe he didn't do anything wrong? Just like Hitl...
Ayden Moore
I think Ted would have just disagreed with Hitler over whether or not traditional values and industrialization can coexist.
>“The conservatives are fools: They whine about the decay of traditional values, yet they enthusiastically support technological progress and economic growth. Apparently it never occurs to them that you can't make rapid, drastic changes in the technology and the economy of a society without causing rapid changes in all other aspects of the society as well, and that such rapid changes inevitably break down traditional values.”
Adam Foster
Hi FBI,
I'm Pekka and seeing Unabomber on Sup Forums catalog I just had to flag myself because I idolize the guy. I sleep better at nights than you.
Jordan Cruz
Not true. He makes some logical leaps of faith in what I've read. Sorry, but it's been too long for me to recall it off the top of my head.
Jonathan Myers
This. He's probably one of the most rational modern thinkers I've ever read, ruthlessly analytical and systematic. He also uses a variety of sources, tries to ascertain their biases and lists all the references. Incredibly thorough, autistically so. Doesn't surprise me that he used to be mathematics professor.
Nolan Evans
I prefer not to be on any gov lists -- no thanks.
Jose Lewis
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Chase Anderson
>"Many leftists have an intense identification with the problems of groups that have an image of being weak (women), defeated (American Indians), repellent (homosexuals), or otherwise inferior. The leftists themselves feel that these groups are inferior. They would never admit it to themselves that they have such feelings, but it is precisely because they do see these groups as inferior that they identify with their problems. (We do not suggest that women, Indians, etc., ARE inferior; we are only making a point about leftist psychology)."
Why can't pol see that Ted is /our guy/?!
Also posting rare Teds
Luke Walker
Ted is correct in this case. Name one serious technological advancement which didn't encourage breakdown of traditional values. I'll wait.
Jacob Edwards
Hello, Pekka.
Michael Butler
>nothing overly malicious or covert would exist That's because the Church burnt heretics and the like at the stake.
Thomas Cook
it's called primitivism, you faggot edgelord, not the "(((Ted))) pill"
Xavier Flores
Arrow heads, hammer, etc.
Gabriel Wood
>I agree with this. But Marx, the solution to the capitalist machine which strips people of their humanity is not to replace it with a statist machine which strips people of their humanity.
How would you describe the Nazi solution to the problem?
Nicholas Roberts
Can you imagine if Ted didn't get into the ol' bomb stuff?
He could have been a world renowned professor, the right's answer to Chomsky.
thir, right here is BIG LEAGUE redpilled post. only with exception that ted hates leftists even more than pol does. no joke. he pretty effectively disassembles the whole leftist mentality and what are the things that lead to having leftist mentality in his writings.
definately /our guy/
Tyler Harris
We abandoned the stick, war ettiquete changed.
Ryder Cruz
I agree with most of what he said. The problems are pretty much as he described. ( There are probably a few details I differ on, but basically, yeah man. )
But he is like Karl Marx. He writes correctly about problems but then his solutions are ineffective, or as bad as or even worse than the problems.
Some problems in the world have no solution. One is man's addiction to the drug known as technology.
Watch UC Berkeley's Prof Gregory Clark's lectures on youtube. Or read his Farewell to Alms.
We're addicted and it's a damn poison. Withdrawal is going to be a bitch or it might even kill us. There's no way around it. It's a bummer and there's nothing that can be done about it.
Justin Lopez
are you guys ludites?
Blake Hill
>abandon stick >traditional values pick one
Jack Hall
As for me I am a hypocrite. I believe in using technology to get personal advantage even though it will damage humanity as a whole.
Christopher Morris
Unless you can convince me that there is a viable way for human society to become technologically advanced without also becoming morally bankrupt, YES.
Jordan Reyes
I guess I didn't word it properly (lol moving the goalposts). I mean industrial society, primitive tools are fine.
Though you could argue that arrows allowed women to hunt, when they were physically much weaker than men.
Altruism (Voluntary / Socially encouraged) is natural for small tribal groups. The state is unnatural. We're not wired for competing in a social setting of tens of millions.
Capitalism being less natural than socialism is complete bullshit. "Capitalism" is strawman Marxist terminology. What is actually meant is the free market. There is no market more natural than free exchange. Forced redistribution is very unnatural.
Nature itself creates winners and losers. It's fundamental to evolution. Redistributing the winnings from the winners and giving it to the losers is dysgenics and it operates against evolution.
That said, they were tackling bigger ((( economic ))) problems and I don't blame them for using socialism to create popular support, especially after a huge depression.
Julian Lewis
The real answer is simply humans are not evolved for globalism. This has nothing to do with technology as long as technology does not enable globalism, which is a tricky prospect. Humans are a local animal with some level of social organization. We never evolved to be globalists, we just don't have the time and right now we are undergoing an evolutionary pressure to become globalists, hence hivemind tendencies running out of control and wreaking havoc on more local organization that is traditional AND natural to our bodies and minds. Technology is a red herring.
Daniel Robinson
what is the mcveigh pill?
Evan Miller
If Jews weren't around i wouldn't be
Thomas Ortiz
so shitting in the toilet instead of the street damages humanity as a whole?
Ethan Campbell
MKULTRA opened up his mind.
Angel Torres
One of those poop pills you take for the probiotics
Brody Nguyen
>world renowned professor I don't think you understand how ((( academia ))) works, friend. It's particularly favourable to people like ((( Chomsky ))) and much less favourable to us.
If you push outside ((( their agenda ))) you become a "discredited" pseudo-intellectual, pseudo-philosopher, racist etc. Or just plain ignored.
Disclaimer: I am in no way advocating or approving of violence.
Jack Flores
sounds like a Luddite
Dylan Kelly
so indoor plumbing makes us weaker of character because we don't experience the character growth that comes from shitting behind a bush in the rain?
Cooper Evans
also, though you claim technology morally bankrupts as a society, you use the internet?
Jaxson Young
Well I know he wouldn't be loved within academia, but if he managed to publish enough I think a good university would keep him aboard even if his views were unpopular to the liberal academic mainstream.
Anthony Flores
The transhumanism pill is better
Logan Carter
>Luddite Sounds like you can't understand something without oversimplifying it
Benjamin Johnson
You're already on a list. May as well earn your spot.
Parker Sanchez
Looks like we mostly agree on this point. The same way that women -can- work and compete with men but the majority will fail (Or be unsatisfied) because they are not evolved for it. The left wants to ignore our biology, the right embraces the facts and tries to make the best of it.
Smaller communities are overwhelmingly right leaning and large urban centres are overwhelmingly left leaning. But it's the technology which allows people to live and work in such high density. Urbanisation is impossible without industry.
Hunter Baker
>Kaczynski was a kissless virgin who once considered a sex change just so he could touch a vagina.
You aren't looking at the big picture. It is the culmination of millennia of technological advances and the small losses of humanity that each advance mandates that ultimately has brought us to the depraved, unfulfilling state in which we currently find ourselves.
Luis Harris
yet you sit banging away on your computer/phone/tech device decrying it moral bankruptcy. even your idol Ted used a technological gadget called a typewriter. typical, myopic hypocrite
Adam Robinson
depraved or not, a civilization without technology has no future.
Jackson Lopez
Actually, the modern toilet is incredibly unnatural and leads to health problems because we evolved to shit squatting, not sitting. Faeces is good for the soil and would be a consideration if we still grew our own food.
Jace Anderson
just because you have a toilet doesn't mean you can't squat shit in your backyard.
Hunter Anderson
The only loose end is to explain why humans should not evolve towards globalism. I believe the answer is probably spiritual in nature, but I really don't have the answer. I just know that the globalism we've trapped ourselves in now is forcing us to evolve towards an idiocracy and we will likely see another split in the species as a whole if it keeps down this path. There will be a predatory/opportunistic aspect to this. It has to stop and people need to return back to environments similar to where their normal evolutionary path left off if we want to attain spiritual enlightenment. Ironically, technology may be the practical answer to return to a more normal lifestyle for everyone. It's just a matter of people accepting some uncomfortable truths and embracing radical changes as an investment for the future.
Chase Foster
Occam's razor. Complexity is a cheat
Luke Reed
The most degenerate pill there is. Once God, family, gender, sexuality, race, nationality, culture is erased, there will only be one thing left to erase, humanity. How you can not see that is the conclusion of degeneracy, I do not know.
Jonathan Ross
I don't see the problem with using global communication to spread awareness of the real issues that humanity is facing.
Personally, I believe that a viable system in which technology is tamed and controlled so as to prevent the decay of mankind can be implemented. I remain skeptical though, and as such, I am sympathetic to primativism.
Landon Ross
"prevent the decay of mankind"--decided by whom?
Isaiah Peterson
>why humans should not evolve towards globalism Because our human dignity is more important than shekels. All the luxuries and cheap entertainment in the world will not fill the void created by selling out ourselves.
Michael Reyes
>a civilization without technology has no future. >Muh future, muh human destiny, muh conquering the stars
Did it not also occur to you that technology can easily destroy civilization completely? Have you not heard of nuclear weapons?
Perhaps this adendum to the Fermi Paradox can illustrate the fallacy that is technological "progress."
>This is the argument that technological civilizations may usually or invariably destroy themselves before or shortly after developing radio or spaceflight technology. Possible means of annihilation are many,[68] including war, accidental environmental contamination or damage, resource depletion,[69] or poorly designed artificial intelligence. This general theme is explored both in fiction and in scientific hypothesizing.[70] In 1966, Sagan and Shklovskii speculated that technological civilizations will either tend to destroy themselves within a century of developing interstellar communicative capability or master their self-destructive tendencies and survive for billion-year timescales.[71] Self-annihilation may also be viewed in terms of thermodynamics: insofar as life is an ordered system that can sustain itself against the tendency to disorder, the "external transmission" or interstellar communicative phase may be the point at which the system becomes unstable and self-destructs.
Dominic Wilson
I agree but you have to account for all possible visions of a globalist society if you want your answer to stick. It does come down to human nature. Spirit and DNA are intertwined with the truths of the universe more than people want to admit. They like to view the two as refuting each other, but the truth is it's all part of a bigger picture. The first thing we need to do is correct the jewish scourge. We need to take two steps back in history and replot our trajectories. We can use technology to help, but we can't rely on it nor let it guide us down a path we can't see.
Anthony King
>a civilization without technology has no future. According to who? There are native Americans right now, free to live as their ancestors did. The only people stopping Europeans from doing this are ((( them ))) and their fucking regulations which care for the preservation of every race but our own.
Brayden Taylor
((( They ))) use technology to corrupt and control us. Almost all of their power and influence stems from this. Without TV, social media, news, banking, smart phones to spy on us, they have no power. Reject their ((( inventions ))), marry a conserative woman, buy land, raise children who reject it too.
Adam Martin
Hopefully the issue with technology will be so self-evident at some point in the future, that even democratically-elected leaders from across the globe will come to realize that reform is needed. I doubt this will ever happen though because these people are on the payroll of the industrialists and leftists.
Sebastian Kelly
We need to follow hitler's path but push for a more peaceful resolution (like he did in the beginning). I agree that we need to break free of the Jewish influence, but we also need to ship black people back to africa, asians back to asia, muslims/pajeets back to the middle east and india, and beaners back to mexico. Whites broke through to the next level of enlightenment but then the technology was hijacked and exploited by jews and the evil aspects of human nature. We lost sight mostly because a minority of people have had power over the technology.
Jordan Reyes
>We can use technology to help, but we can't rely on it nor let it guide us down a path we can't see.
I think this is the biggest hurdle. Until a movement that recognizes this concept arises, Kaczynski's ideas are dead-on.
The sad reality is that it likely isn't possible.
Owen Howard
>a civilization without technology has no no future as in has no power to stand the test of time
>nuclear weapons ok, but we are still here
but they don't because a more technologically advanced society replaced their way of life.
>democratically-elected leaders from across the globe will come to realize Politicians just follow the money because they only "serve" the country for a short time, it's not like they pass it on to their children or anything (As in monarchy). Politicians just get as rich as possible through their limited time of opportunity.
Also, a democracy selects for persuasive candidates, not moral ones. As with all competition, winners are those who best fit the environment and the environment is securing votes, not leading a country.
Juan Russell
>When will you take the Ted pill Sup Forums? No. I have chosen functional analysis instead of complex analysis this semester.
Gabriel Torres
>(like he did in the beginning) Let's not forget who declared war on whom. Prior to the declaration, Germany had only reclaimed its stolen territory and protected its own people.
Democracy is largely to blame for the ((( demographic shift ))). Voters didn't want larger government, so the government brought in voters who do. The only peaceful break from this is to push hard for the genuine candidates of our cause before demographic collapse and redpill as many whites as possible. Sup Forums is already doing this.
Let's not forget that Hitler was also elected democractically. It can happen but it takes extreme circumstances.
Owen Rogers
>as in has no power to stand the test of time
More emotional jargon about some sort of idealized greater human destiny.
Societies without technology and it's ills don't have to worry about the dangers associated with our post-industrial world (described below), and therefore have much better chances of "Standing the test of time." (Whatever that even means).
>ok, but we are still here
For now. In case you didn't notice, nuclear weapons are still here too. Our worries go beyond those however. Technology and industrialization could also destroy the natural balance of the planet and cause our civilization to collapse. The other big danger is the leftists. As more and more of the population becomes unfulfilled as a result of meaningless industrial life, they will support leftists causes in a search for meaning. Our civilization could very-well collapse as third-worlders are imported into the Western world in the name of "equality" and "justice."
Kevin Lee
There is no going back. Industrialization is here to stay.
Camden Harris
>Hes wrong but i wont prove how hes wrong, i just know he is.
Jose Adams
What you call degeneracy, I call evolution
Nathan Kelly
See Your "evolution" will more than likely erase humanity entirely.
Andrew Cox
>standing the test of time as in an extinction event
not only are our nukes still here, we've used them before, and we are still here
Chase Mitchell
>as in an extinction event The most dangerous and most-likely-to-occur extinction events are self inflicted and are made possible by technology.