/ADG/ Anti-Drug General
Explain to me why you need drugs to function, Sup Forums?
Even if you're a "functional" drug user, you grind your 9-5 job just to go home and snort/shoot up/drink/smoke your drug - just so you can do the same exact thing the next day.
Aren't you tired of being in a circular loop, or have the drugs bluepilled you into actually falsely enjoying the experience of a plain and boring life? Why haven't you striven to achieve more than just work + drugs.
Daily reminder that drugs are single-handedly ruining society ever day.
Let's just ban anything that could possibly be abused or taken to excess.
Exactly.
Legalizing it would give more incentive for those to keep doing what they're doing.
Making it illegal = less people doing it. Sure, some people will continue to give into their habits - but the incarcerations will make them think twice before telling everyone that "I do x on a daily"
To say "legalize drugs, because people still do them even if it's illegal"...
It's like saying "let's make pedophilia illegal, after all - there's still pedophiles even though child porn and underage sex is illegal"
Meant to say legal* not illegal.
Why do you hate freedom
Why do you hate freedom?
Pedophilia is not illegal and shouldn't be. Sexually abusing minors is illegal.
Drug use shouldn't be illegal. Committing crimes to support drug use or because of drug use should be illegal.
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That's the equivalent of saying owning drugs shouldn't be illegal, but using them should be.
"Being a pedophile isn't illegal, but acting upon it is"
Why do you hate freedom?
Youre blue pilled as fuck if you believe incarcerating people over personal drug use is a good idea. I bet you suck cop cock you freedom hater.
Sexually abusing a minor infringes on another person's rights.
Ingesting substances does not infringe on another person's rights.
"b-but muh freedoms"
This is why all pedophiles happen to be AnCap bottom righters.
It's a false sense of freedom, drugs are the ultimate bluepill, They make you complacent with being mediocre. They keep you stuck in your false illusion of reality as you work your entire life just to have some more.
Op has been irrefutably btfo by several anons, accept your loss op and consider changing your opinion
It inadvertently does. It infringes on your right for pursuing happiness.
Bad for your mind, bad for your body. Puts more money into the criminals' pockets who make drugs.
>They make you complacent with being mediocre. They keep you stuck in your false illusion of reality as you work your entire life just to have some more.
Generalizations. Plenty of hardworking, successful, and innovative people use drugs.
People who can use drugs responsibly and in moderation should not be punished for those who can't.
I think you might like North Korea dude, try living there
>It infringes on your right for pursuing happiness.
That's just nonsense. Besides. You can't infringe on your own rights.
>Puts more money into the criminals' pockets who make drugs.
Only because they're illegal. Legalizing and heavily taxing drugs would put the money toward helping people who can't use drugs responsibly and in moderation.
North Korea is too commie & democratic for me. I'm a National Socialist who promotes traditional family values and religious morals to better your life as a redpilled Alpha male.
The same argument that lefties use for #NotAllMuslims or muh niggers.
Just because a cherrypicked few successful people happen to be drug users doesn't mean the rest of the drug using population is successful.
I've been smoking WEED LMAO heavily for 20 years.. Not saying it literally ruined my life but it certainly didn't help. Maybe i would have ruined it anyway without it but who knows?
don't believe the lies that pol is ran by degenerates. It's brigading bullshit and selective response bias. You validate shills when you say that "pol uses drugs"- most of us here do not
Anyways drugs are cancerous, yes
>articulates why his life is shit
>can't fundamentally recoup
Now come on man
Based leaf.
Although, most of pol are degenerate bottom-right libertarians or ancaps who use drugs but justify it by saying "at least I'm not a kike!" while they read Atlas Shrugged by (((Ayn Rand))) or say "At least I'm not a commie!"
>Just because a cherrypicked few successful people happen to be drug users doesn't mean the rest of the drug using population is successful.
And yet this is still not a reasonable argument for restricting people's freedoms.
>recoup
You mean snap out of it? Not saying it's all bad but it certainly exacerbated some tendencies towards anti-social behavior, reclusiveness etc.
What drugs are you talking about anyway?
Any form of recreational drug.
Weed, Cocaine, Heroin, Amphetamines, Psychedelics, Alcohol, Nicotine.
Yes OP, I am tired, so tired. I've been addicted to opiate meds for 10 years. I've been wanting/trying to quit for almost the entire time and have only ever failed. I've never stolen to support my habit and I function fine in my day to day life... but at the same time it effects everything it seems. I have no friends anymore, they have all went to heroin and either OD'd or turned into sheisty fucks. I don't know what to do, I fucking hate it. I get no enjoyment out of anything and just spend all day obsessing over quitting/failing to quit. I havent caught a buzz in years and years, I just take them to stop from being sick.
Anyone reading this that can help, I'd love to hear your advice.
Psilocybin or lsd can help with addiction
Need help with a drug? Take another drug.
>t. druggie
Burger, don't listen to this Bongistani. Just exercise more, join a rehab group, and meditate!
How do you mean? Like as a one time dose or would i take it until the withdrawals stopped?
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Thats the route I have been trying. I spent 6 months doing it everyday and did make some progress but then ended up falling behind and stopping. I'm trying to get back into the routine again atm. Ty for the advice user
Never did the rehab group. No NA chapters around and I have been to AA before and don't think it would help much. They sit around telling stories about past partying and it was really counter productive for me
Take a drug so he can stop taking drugs.
Everyone should be exercising and meditating.
Used to shoot up speed balls everyday. 2 years clean now. Feels good man. Drugs are bad mkay.
He doesn't need a drug to get him to stop.
Sheer willpower is the ultimate redpill, stop diverting him to taking the psychedelijew.
You'd have to do some research, but if it works enough to break the cycle then maybe only once
drugs are breddy fun desu senpai
A single good instance of psychedelic use has the potential of curing depression and adiction in some people. The effect is like a mental shower, and will certainly help if you have some introspection and fortitude to really ask yourself: why am I addicted?
Many people report feeling liberated after a experience like this.
Clearly willpower hasn't been working for him.
drugs are great but the biggest fail one can do is become dependant on them every day or even just the weekends to "have fun"
learned this the hard way. 2 months sober, threw away years smoking weed, drinking, and doing oxy
Because of society constantly thinking that you need "x" to better yourself - it creates a mentally weak society.
Try loperamide. Don't get on suboxone or methadone. Subs and methadone has worst WDs then heroin. Either loperamide or Kratom until your withdrawals are gone.
Ya. Subs don't work for my WDs for whatever reason and methadone is just basically the same as getting high. I have been hearing about Kratom and am planning on ordering some of the dark web soon I think. I hear they sell it locally but that it is garbage tier quality. Will look up loperamide, ty for the suggestion.
>plain and boring life
I think that's the opposite of the general idea of taking them in the first place, short cut to dopamine release, I've heard they actually quite enjoy it.
You don't need dark Web for kratom. Kratom worked wonders for me. It's not scheduled so you can buy it on the clear net
Congrats brother. I have quit smoking but am still working on kicking the opanas. What worked for you in regards to kicking the oxy? Just willpower or did you have some help somehow?
I like to smoke weed/wax in very small doses on the weekend.
> I do this to relax and clear my mind of anxiety
do i need them in order to function?
> no, in fact i cant use them during the week days because i wouldnt be able to function at my job
OP: Arent you tired of your circular loop? wake up eat work eat work eat sleep repeat? why not make it interesting and relax or have fun
Still good quality though, when off clearnet? Any sites you can suggest?
Take memantine or ketamine and you wont even crave opiates/opioids or realise your going through withdrawal. Try kratom too, but be careful because that can be mildly addicting as well.
Just look for the extract. Google it. I haven't ordered any in a long time.
In my free time, I'm constantly working to better myself.
Exercise, language learning, instrument learning, watching documentaries on history, meditation.
You can do all this better when sober than when high, you definitely can't retain all this when stonen
It can be tough for a majority to do these things if they suffer from depression and/or anxiety though.
I don't know if I can get my hands on ketamine. Supposed i could get it off the darkwebs. Think I'm gonna try getting back into my excercise and meditation routine and try out the Kratom. If it doesnt work maybe I will try K. Isn't that addictive in itself? That's what special K refers to right?
This is the sort of stuff that helps you get out of that mindstate.
Redpilling yourself is the ultimate cure for depression.
Will do. Thank you user
For about 2 years of my life I smoked weed almost every day and I did way more of these kind of "better myself" activities than before I smoked or after I quit.
I read one or two books a week and practiced piano for an hour every night. Now I just eat too much and watch The Sopranos.
I used to love reading, one of my favorites things to do before bed. Havent done it in years because I just end up nodding out. It's so fucking stupid. I will be sober soon, one way or the other, im done living like this
I ruined my life and that pretty much got me to stop. Willpower is the only way man. Stick it out and Address the issues that lead you to where you are. Be accountable. It's a long road ahead so good luck man.
Its possibly one of the most potent nmda antagonists out there. You will be delerious but the positive outcomes are more important than negative. If your afraid you'll get addicted to ketamine then try memantine first which has the same effects except you get no euphoria and it makes you feel more cognitive than what ketamine will offer.
Ketamine will make you feel more stupid and you may vomit and hallucinate but after a week of taking it you'll feel refreshed like you never even had an addiction to opioids.
There are ketamine clinics in the US which is a way around the legality of the situation.
Practice self control, start by delaying your hits an hour, then two hours. Don't think about quitting, just think about controlling yourself. Endure the sickness, nausea, headaches, whatever it is for atleast an hour. Keep pushing yourself to tolerate more and more. It's just like learning to run long distance in principle, it's painful and it sucks, but in the end with determination you will be healthier.
I get prescription painkillers for my spine after having it fused. Crazy that people pay 2 dollars for each of the 3 pills I take a day. I also get a small supply of Xanax, only 20 of the 1mg every 2 months.
I really don't know how most of Sup Forums seems to do illegal drugs. Do you guys walk around sleazy back-alleys looking for dealers? Do you do bitcoin darknet purchasing?
>NatSoc in the USA
The USA is the most degneerate western country, especially obese people, the rich, the ultra-poor, fundie christians. Almost everyone.
Trying to be non-degenerate to an extreme in the US is like trying to cool the Sahara with an icecube. You'll either have to replace it with a new one every few minutes, or just let it melt
I mean I sypmathise with right-wingers and natsocs in Europe and stuff, but that stuff doesn't apply here.
I feel ya. I sometimes wish something would happen to were i lost my income or my connect. Kind of take it out of my hands ya know. I realize that isn't the way to go about it if you want sobriety to stick, but sometimes I feel like it would be a helluva jumpstart. Big part of why I haven't quit is because I have been functional and havent let it touch other parts of my life besides my personal life... I'm almost 35 and quit dating 6 years ago because I didn't want to break any more hearts with my addiction nor did I want to have kids and not be ablr to care for them or support them like I should. Such a fucking waste man, 10 years lost and for nothing, for some fuckin pills.
Because it makes me content with my boring life and the fact that I'm a cold dead cynical asshole who pushes people away.
I gotta get going. I appreciate you guys taking the time to try and give me a hand. Never asked for help before, didnt think pol would be so cool/understanding. Means a lot, thank you. I'm going to check the archive later tonight, I'll be reading through the rest of the responses. Thank kindly anons.
*thank you kindly anons
Was addicted to oxy for bout 5 year and heroin for 3 years. Feels bad man
I am 2 years clean and one year free from cigs. Feels good man
I went through rehab 3 times, on the third time I was just so broken and tired of the struggle that I was actually willing to listen to advice. The advice I got was go to aa and get a sponser and work the steps with sponsor, go to 90 meetings in 90 days and stay open to advice. I did what was suggested and my life is so much better then it's ever been. I still go to 3 meetings a week and sponsor a couple guys myself. AA might not be for everybody, there may be other ways to kick dope but I just didn't have time to figure it out on my own. I was broken and in pain and wanted relief. I know how you feel and can say you never have to feel that way again but it takes work! Good luck... you are worth it!
I grow my own weed. No question about the quality of the product. No dealers and shady people to involve myself with. No "collateral". Just me and my herbs.
I use Antipsychotics because I have Schizophrenia.
What do, Sup Forums?
I would go to the trap house at 7 mile in Detroit every day for dope. Not fun
So tell me why it's not acceptable to smoke a little marijuana at night to relax and unwind after work.
Why is this less acceptable than a drink at night?
Doesn't stop me from working.
Doesn't stop me from pursuing goals.
Doesn't stop me from being social.
Doesn't stop me from being a outstanding citizen in every other aspect.
Seriously, explain to me the issue then because the arguments against it can and are dependent on the person. Just like alcohol or anything else recreational.