Republicans are moving to kill rules that'd make internet providers get your consent before selling your Web browsing...

>Republicans are moving to kill rules that'd make internet providers get your consent before selling your Web browsing data

businessinsider.com/r-congress-may-overturn-obama-internet-privacy-rules-2017-3


>House sends Trump bill to kill landmark broadband privacy regulations

latimes.com/business/la-fi-fcc-privacy-house-20170328-story.html


>House Rep. Pushing To Set Back Online Privacy Rakes In Industry Funds

vocativ.com/415350/house-rep-pushing-to-set-back-online-privacy-rakes-in-industry-funds/

>Marsha Blackburn (R-TN), sponsor of anti-privacy measure up for vote in Congress, has had a career financed by internet service providers totaling at least $693,000.

So much for draining the swamp I guess.

Other urls found in this thread:

theverge.com/2017/3/29/15100620/congress-fcc-isp-web-browsing-privacy-fire-sale?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
govtrack.us/congress/votes/115-2017/h202
vox.com/new-money/2017/3/29/15107110/republican-isp-data-privacy
youtube.com/watch?v=ZT8oGa3XTTw
businessinsider.com/house-republicans-kill-fcc-broadband-privacy-rules-2017-3
thenextweb.com/insider/2017/03/28/congress-just-killed-your-right-to-privacy-online/#.tnw_t034zTlb
theverge.com/2017/3/29/15100620/congress-fcc-isp-web-browsing-privacy-fire-sale
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

A full list of the members of house and senate that voted on this bill can be found here. I

theverge.com/2017/3/29/15100620/congress-fcc-isp-web-browsing-privacy-fire-sale?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

It also shows how much each member was bribed since their last election cycle.

Apparently, the Trump administration and its allies in Congress value privacy for themselves over the privacy of the Americans who put them in office. What is good business for powerful cable and phone companies is just tough luck for the rest of us.

Once Trump signs this bill into law, it will be impossible to go back to the way things were.

Seriously, why the fuck do poor and middle class people ever vote Republican? I don't understand this logic.

bump
ITT: Lefty communists, posing as free market capitalists, cry about not enough federal regulation.

Wasn't this an Obama-era thing that snuck in early January?

Apparently, you can't enter into an agreement with a private company, without federal regulations 'protecting' your stupid ass.

Nigger mentality and degenerate genetics

This board is DEAD

>the Trump administration and its allies in Congress value privacy for themselves over the privacy of the Americans

Oh course goy, I can spy on you, but you shouldn't spy on me and all my criminal money laundering buddies!

All you even that whole month was about Trump.

-Federal court ruled that ISPs aren't regulated by the FTC
-Obama/FCC decide FCC should regulate them, enact opt in/opt out privacy regulation
-(R)s and Trump repeal that FCC control, claiming the FTC should regulate them
-rinse and repeat

I'm not a commie. I just don't want my private life up for sale. Don't be a shill.

No, this is a Republican bill with only republican support.

Except once this bill passes we will not be able to repeal it. The FCC will not be able to protect your privacy.

FCC is the organization that should be in charge of telecommunications. The FCC also issues pre-emptive regulations while the FTC primarily conducts investiagations.

govtrack.us/congress/votes/115-2017/h202

> Senate Joint Resolution 34 and House Joint Resolution 86 are companion bills that would nullify the FCC’s rule. However, they would not return jurisdiction over regulating ISP’s back to the FTC, as they were previously.

Daily reminder to those that understand the role of government: Any repeal of legislation, if not replaced, is good.
Simply, it's not the job of government to regulate the contacts you enter into. That is your job.

>I just don't want my private life up for sale.

What's the matter goy? You hate the FREE MARKET? In a true libertarian free market society, big corporations will be allowed to spy on you as much as they want and collect data to ensure you are discriminated against if you have medical conditions.

you can opt out
>you can opt out
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>I'm not a commie. I just don't want my private life up for sale. Don't be a shill.
Then avoid contracts that allow that. It's not a feds job to manage your private business dealings. I'm not a shill, I'm an ACTUAL small government conservative capitalist.

Fuck off back to /r/politics shill.

nope, that was a function of the earlier bill

You need an alphabet agency to manage your private contracts?

Congress is also constantly blocking Trump whenever they get the chance.

YOU can opt out of a relationship with Comcast if you don't like the agreement you have with them. Or you can use the government in the event that your contract with Comcast is violated, Lenin.
But you'd rather keep government bloated, and in control of the private sector, you fucking liberal faggot.

Can we write one for Jamal?

>vox.com/new-money/2017/3/29/15107110/republican-isp-data-privacy

you can still opt out

>You need an alphabet agency to manage your private contracts?

>YES GOY JUST READ THIS 1,241 PAGE CONTRACT WITH GOOGLE ABOUT YOUR PRIVACY AND SURVEILLANCE RIGHTS! IF YOU DON'T AGREE YOU CAN'T USE THE INTERNET!

It isn't like I have much choice when I want fast internet. The internet is a utility and should be regulated as such.

>I can spy on you, you didn't tell me I couldn't
I don't want to have to opt out every time I renew a contract, change ISP, move, get a new phone. Shouldn't have to read the fine print on every contract just to find out how to opt out. And who is going to make sure the ISPs don't spy unlawfuly? The FCC isn't going to now, and the FTC will require you to prove it and sue them after fact.

No they aren't, the republicans hold congress.

Bump, and get in here, conservatives that understand the ideal role of a small and limited government.

FUCK OFF KIKE

Nobody supported trump for more lolbergtardian economics. He literally ran opposing everything the GOP ever stood for, and now becoming a another Bush clone.

>No, this is a Republican bill with only republican support.
Don't lie

>No, this is a Republican bill with only republican support.

Which is why the GOP should never be allowed to govern again.

So you are advocating for more gov regulation. Real boot-strappy, you leftist slime

> The internet is a utility and should be regulated as such.
GTFO

No, you can't opt out user, that was the whole point of this bill... the best you can do is find an ISP that respect your privacy.

>So you are advocating for more gov regulation.

Yes because I would rather have that than allow America become the personal thiefdom of the kochs.

>I shouldn't have to read things, the government should just do that for me and let me know what's in my best interests

>when someone breaks the law, I have to prove they did it and file suit like every other aspect of life

I love how drumpftards are trying to spin this as a good thing
>uhh umm the it's just giving control over to the FTC!!! Nothing is actually happening goys!!!
Meanwhile every non drumpfshitter on the internet knows it's a disaster

I don't know what that has to do with what I said.
You are either fer or again agency oversight of contracts between private entities. I'm against it.
youtube.com/watch?v=ZT8oGa3XTTw

>WELL AT LEAST WE GET MONEY FROM WEAPON SALES RIGHT?

Man are you in the wrong place.

Yeah you should go.

The good of the many outweigh the good of the few.

Read the list of supporters and their bribes. Marsha Blackburn is the congress woman to introduce the bill, she was paid $700k over 14 years by telecom corporations.

theverge.com/2017/3/29/15100620/congress-fcc-isp-web-browsing-privacy-fire-sale?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


Good luck finding that new company that won't spy on you running a fiber optic cable all the way to your house.

FCC was preemptive in their operations. FTC primarily conducts investigations. Now their is no one regulating these companies so if they sell data no one will no. Proof is going to be near impossible.

>the way it was before
What are you on about. This regulation was never even implemented

No you can't. ISPs tend to offer long term contracts only and try to monopolize certain regions. Their rational is that they own the infrastructure and therefore the right to prevent other ISPs from using them.

Have people already forgotten Vault 7? Agencies are already more than capable of seeing all your online activity. This makes absolutely no difference.

>it will be too hard for me, so I want the government to figure it out for me

So is that pic implying that you are a full on fascist? Like state control of industry fascist?
Anyway, I'm not that frog worshiping Sup Forums character. I'm a pretty run of the mill limited gov, maximum liberty con.

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>vox.com/new-money/2017/3/29/15107110/republican-isp-data-privacy

He's a white nationalist, that's why his pic bitches about Asian women.

I'm in a small city. I just Ducked "ISPs my town." Over thirty ways to watch wired porn.

So sorry I have to explain that one to you.

this is against the good of the many in favor of the good of the ISP corporations. Who controls the government? The ordinary citizens or the corporations that bribe the lobbyist and control the media? The telecom industry has bribed congress $8 million in just the last year. I'm all for small government too. This only allows the government to buy the data they need to spy.

The difference is that all liberals aren't Jamal. Most Republicans who aren't upper class are Joe.

I didn't really look at it.
Since shit like this has, and will continue to happen, I error on the side of caution, and live by these words:
"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Be it the FTC or FCC. Comcast aint shit, compared to a federal agency, you fucking pinko.

>this is against the good of the many
Just stop, Saul.

Not sure how you can dispute this. You are referring to the new bill to allow ISPs to sell your data without telling you right?

This doesn't really change anything if you analyze it in detail. The "landmark regulations" are from a year ago and our web browsing data has been getting sold for a long time.

So... our data has been getting sold for a decade or more but suddenly NOW it's an issue? Hoooookayyyy then.

This changes basically nothing aside from the formality of things. Get over it.

Use a fucking VPN or something. Learn how to use proxies. It's easy and you can even do it for free although for less than $5/month you can get great VPN service.

Who the fuck thought Republicans had their best interests at heart? Did you retards actually believe Trump was an "outsider" and wasn't going to tow the party line? Look at the decisions he's made so far while in office, they're all things the standard Republican party wanted in the first place. Nothing has changed, yet you're all so gullible that you deluded yourselves into thinking he would be different from any other shit eating politician.

He will sign this into law, I absolutely guarantee it, and the regulations that were planned will never materialize. It's hilarious, coming from a board that once had libertarian leanings that there's endless praise for this type of tyranny, yet you'll parade around in your MAGA hats and spout le ebic memes out of your fat mouths while our liberties and freedoms continue to be eroded.

Go ahead and reply that this has nothing to do with our civil liberties. Yes goy, suck the corporate cock of our ISP masters that already have massive monopolies throughout the US. Allow them to collect every single bit and scrap of information from you and sell it to make EVEN MORE GODDAMN MONEY off of what they already make off of you.What the fuck happened to this board? Government regulation is sometimes necessary when it is protecting our fucking privacy.

I sure hope you dumb shits have started using a VPN.

It's clear to me now, you have a poor understanding of the situation, and the larger argument.

We have to stop this! if the FTC discovers how much we violated campaign finance laws the FBI is going to send us to the gulags.

HURR DRUMPF

>No they aren't, the republicans hold congress.
Is this nigga for real?

>REEEEEE I don't like bill
>cries on Sup Forums about trump being bad instead of working to spread awareness about it
10/10 shilling lad

they don't?

>businessinsider.com/house-republicans-kill-fcc-broadband-privacy-rules-2017-3

>The US House of Representatives voted on Tuesday to kill a set of Obama-era privacy regulations for internet service providers created by the Federal Communications Commission last October.

The most notable part of the rules, which has not yet taken effect, would require broadband providers such as Verizon, Comcast, and AT&T to obtain explicit consent before selling their customers’ web-browsing histories, app-usage data, and other personal information to advertisers and other third-parties.

They do. It's his answer to which I am referring.

>people are missing the big picture
>people aren't realizing that Trump is going to sign on this
>people aren't realizing that Trump is only going to sign this so that ISPs are competitive again

People will literally flock to the ISPs that are the most privacy-conscious. It's going to be such a mandated thing that they're not even going to charge extra for it--and the ISPs that aren't privacy-conscious are going to bring back things like unlimited data, fiber, etc., which will force the privacy-conscious ISPs to do the same.

thenextweb.com/insider/2017/03/28/congress-just-killed-your-right-to-privacy-online/#.tnw_t034zTlb

To be clear, if you don't think repealing legislation on private corporations is good, you are not a conservative.
But don't fret. Nobody here is a conservative. They are ALL pro big government, when it's in their favor.

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I'm getting so confused. This thread is like reading a contract with an ISP... In need of government regulation. Wew.

TLDR for not retards

This changes zero things.
The regulations being rolled back had never been in effect.
Your privacy protections don't change at all
It's fake news by hysterical dems.


It's going to be funny in 1 year when none of this shit comes true that dems say will happen. I can't wait till the scams about buying congress data never happen.

this

/thread

Here let me give you pertinent sentences

>Congress is block Trump!
>No they aren't
>Holy shit is this dude for real
I responded to the part where he thinks congress isnt blocking Trump. Ryan care should have been blocked imo but most other shit they're doing is blocking things that shouldn't be blocked. That's just my opinion though. But still, Congress is blocking him, which is why I responded at all.

Hope that cleared it up, this thread is all sorts of fucked right now.

Just so you guys know. Regulations passed at the end of a presidency can be rolled back with a simple vote. These regulations never went into effect and are basically a parting shot.

The reason obama admin passed these regulations is because ISP's favored republicans in terms of financial support.

They specifically made google, facebook, and other companies that mainly supported democrats exempt.

So basically these regulations have never ever been in effect.
These regulations favored companies like google/facebook who donate to democrats by exempting them.


If it was really a privacy bill, it would stop google from selling your search data or put google in the same category as the ISP with respect to privacy.

It wasn't.

The hysterical dems are lying. This new regulation was shit and if they cared about your search data they would have made google stop selling it too.

who is this semon demon

Why don't you ask the government to regulate your bowel movements too?

Communist.

Bingo Bango

I'm all for the repeal, but that's not the whole story. The FCC was 'put in charge' of ISP regulation when a fed court ruled that the FTC is not. This new bill removes FCC control, but doesn't put the control in any hands(FTC).
I'm cool with it. Fuck 'em. I hope they fire a bunch of people tasked with micro-managing my private dealings with private entities.
This is like repeal, and don't replace. I'm cool with it.

Except now we went from FTC regulation to FCC regulation and now we'll have little to no regulation. It changes a lot giving ISPs the ability to sell your data without telling you.

Massachusetts Senator Ed Markey (D) voted against the bill said:

>I fear [the privacy rollback] is just a preview of coming attractions. Big broadband companies don’t want to give consumer privacy protections the attention they deserve.

>Consumers will have no ability to stop Internet service providers from invading their privacy and selling sensitive information about their health, finances, and children to advertisers, insurers, data brokers or others who can profit off of this personal information, all without their affirmative consent.

If this didn't change anything, why even implement it?

Here is a nice list of how much money got each Republican to sign this bill:
theverge.com/2017/3/29/15100620/congress-fcc-isp-web-browsing-privacy-fire-sale

The telecoms lobbies "donated" a total of $9,156,812 US dollars to the Senate and the House of Representatives to pass this shit. And that without counting the $700k just Blackburn got from the ISPs.

I am still wait for Trump to drain the swamp... what the fuck this is taking so long?

You mean because of the ACHA which never went to vote?

>pretend to care about privacy
>make sure democrat supporting companies all get exemptions
>hurr why did it get rolled back

100% thing everyone needs to understand

these regulations never went into effect
they are a last ditch obama measure to burn republican supporting companies

Your privacy for 8 years of obama is still unchanged. Literally nothing changes. Personal info is still protected as it always was.

This is basically a political trick.

What you need to understand.

They targeted republican supporting companies.
They made sure that the privacy rules don't extend to google or facebook.

You just made me more confused. Ind those invisible catcha stop signs aren't helping. I'm going to walk doggo now, and never come back here.

Please cite ONE non-Republican vote for either the Senate or House version of the bill. I'll wait.

Call up your ISP and talk with them or their lawyers

they can't sell your private info. Many protections exist that protect subscriber information. All they can sell is anonymized bulk data the same that google sells of you.

Well, Trump will veto it, right?
RIGHT?

Yes, because of the open and public statements congressmen had said how they'd vote and it didn't have enough support because Congress would have blocked, as individual Congressmen told everyone how they would vote, as is pretty common.

B-b-but muh Hillary and t-the Saudis and Clinton foundation

he is 100% signing it

Man you people are really desperate to prove your shilling

WTF GOP HATES PRIVACY

>uses google
>uses facebook
>uses gmail
>uses chrome

>If this didn't change anything, why even implement it?

Because they don't want VPNs to become popular, they want people to keep their traffic unencrypted because they assume "regulations" stop people from spying on them.

>ITT: Lefty communists, posing as free market capitalists, cry about not enough federal regulation.
Sory self reply, but I told you. Limited government conservatism is dead, only to be replaced by partisan calls for MORE GOVERNMENT.

>removing a regulation that never went into effect and didn't improve privacy

and the media response

- OMG Trump is removing the privacy of the internet!!!!

Meanwhile 0 rules in effect change.

Except they're right in this case.

What the fuck is wrong with Trump? He claims to be an anti-establishment populist, then signs this shit that has literally no benefits and only drawbacks for the end user.

>he takes his daily medication
Why would a non-terminally ill person take medications daily?

So they just update and EULA and force you to click accept, sounds like a shit deal.

this

The new regulation was like a sign saying "you have privacy" without making any changes.

If they got serious about privacy I would support it. This end of obama term regulation was basically dog shit.

Internet services should face the same exact regulation with respect to private information and data collection as anyone else.

Google and Facebook etc being exempt meant the regulation was pointless.

>Sup Forums learning what a GOP in power is like

I tried to warn you guys about the Bush years, but you were all in fucking gradeschool then living blissfully unaware.

>WTF GOP HATES PRIVACY
>>uses google
>>uses facebook
>>uses gmail
>>uses chrome

>lol you're already getting fucked in the ass by six niggers why not a seventh join in?

Fuck. You.