Why didn't he just stop after restoring the pre-1918 borders?

Why didn't he just stop after restoring the pre-1918 borders?

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because he is a fucking nazi

Imagine how much better off the West would be if he had. Now we have to witness its collapse into civil war.

We could have avoided not only WWII but WWIII as well.

reminder that the eternal anglo declared war, not germany.

Because of Ribbentrop:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joachim_von_Ribbentrop

"Initially, Germany hoped to transform Poland into a satellite state, but by March 1939 German demands had been rejected by the Poles three times, which led Hitler to decide, with enthusiastic support from Ribbentrop, upon the destruction of Poland as the main German foreign policy goal of 1939."

what in the fuck is that

>because he is a fucking nazi

Uh, source?

He invaded Poland to liberate the German people that were still stuck in land annexed from Germany in ww1 after he invaded poland, Britain and France declared war on him.

Lebensraum

That's great but why invade the Soviet Union?
He could have negotiated peace with Britain and France after restoring the old borders

he saw the peril that was about to fall on the true aryan race - the finnmongol, and disguised his crude attempt to please the aryan race with a mass sacrifice of germanic blood in their honour and defence as being an attempt at world domination

But why he continued after poland?

Because war was on, and all bets were off.

because the commies were arming to attack him

He didn't. France and Britain declared war on him.

Because he was LITERALLY HITLER!

Reminder that these "pre-1918 borders" were rightful Polish lands that Germany stole 100 years earlier. There was Polish majority living in there, and democratic referendums were held after WW1. People voted to join Poland.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Silesia_plebiscite

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Prussian_plebiscite_1920

Hitler had NO right to these lands.

does this idea get tossed around in Deutshland (in the underground?)

To restore the borders, he needed to reclaim the former German segments of Poland. After the invasion of Poland, war ensued as France and the UK declared war on Germany.

As a repercussion, Germany retaliated and began invading France and "neutral" countries which were supplying the allied forces with arsenal.

>Hitler had NO right to these lands.

There are no RIGHTS to clay!
You either can defend you clay against invaders, or you can't!

>To restore the borders, he needed to reclaim the former German segments of Poland
See

let me try and understand what you are saying, so 100 years prior to the great war, the land to the east was polish land that became german land? is this because of the napoleonic wars?

He was provoked by the globalist kikes. What is this 2012 again?

>Texas and California belong to Mexico because they were under Spanish rule 100 years ago

Kill yourself. To this day, the epicenters of Poland are shitholes compared to even the most underdeveloped areas of Germany.

Well, Germans clearly failed at defending "theirs".
Twice. Third time's the charm

I guess you believe that Crimea belongs to Ukraine too?

I hovered over it, does that count?

why not lol

>provoked to extend the borders and steal neighbourings resources
really makes you think

Also
>To this day, the epicenters of Poland are shitholes compared to even the most underdeveloped areas of Germany
Gee, it clearly must be result of Poles being subhumans, not because of communism, or something.

Crimea voted to join Russia via referendum. About 97% of the voters aspired to be a part of the Russian federation.

Kek

This. Based burgers tells the truth.

he honestly believed that it was his destiny to rule the world

Poland was poor prior to communism -- much more impoverished than most of Germany. Germans industrialized Prussia.

>Crimea voted to join Russia via referendum
And did you even read my post then, you fatass illiterate Murifat piece of shart?

>There was Polish majority living in there, and democratic referendums were held after WW1. People voted to join Poland
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Silesia_plebiscite
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Prussian_plebiscite_1920

In Hitler's conversation with Mannerheim (a secret recording and the only one that reveals his normal voice), it's glaringly obvious that Hitler was convinced Soviet would attack, and that Germany had no other choice than to attack first:
youtube.com/watch?v=ClR9tcpKZec

Please elaborate.

>Poland was poor prior to communism
On development level of Italy and Spain at that time, actually.
So had we not fallen under communist rule, we'd be on the western level of development at this point.

I don't get what kind of argument is that anyway.

He didn't rerstore those borders until he attacked and conquered poland
Poles oppressed ethnic germans in territories which belonged to Germany prior to WW1
Also Stalin planned the invasion of Europe hence a preemptive strike

I never claimed that all of Poland is German clay. Parts of Prussia which were handed over to Poland had a predominantly German population. I don't abhor Slavs or anything btw. I just hate seeing your bullshit.

He had to engage the (((bolsheviks))) and destroy them before they destroyed all of Europe. Poland was just kind of in the way. Also the Germans living on German clay given to Poland were getting shoahed.

Pole bro chill

>Why didn't he just stop after restoring the pre-1918 borders?
>Lebensraum
this
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Yeah... we should have let Patton off his leash and allowed him to BTFO the commies all the way to Siberia.

Too bad he (((died))).

>Poles oppressed ethnic germans in territories
Bullshit and lie. Nothing like that ever happened, and every time anyone makes this retarded claim, he can't back it up with a single source.

Not only Germans weren't oppressed in Poland. They actually had a huge amount of rights. German-speaking region of Silesia, for example, was granted autonomy.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silesian_Voivodeship_(1920–39)

>which belonged to Germany prior to WW1
Yet another bullshit. See

can you answer my question?

This is true Poland had a rich thriving culture on par with the west, but then those brits stabbed em in the back

Because you can never satisfy an SJW.

Bump

Controlled opposition. He was paid handsomely by Anglo and American bankers to wreak maximum havoc and spread his military thin, creating a world war that Germany would lose. He helped usher in the UN, NATO, World Bank, IMF, and the Cold War.

Hitler probably got a nice retirement in Argentina for his trouble

>Parts of Prussia which were handed over to Poland had a predominantly German population
But the links I've just posted prove that completely wrong, you imbecile.
The regions that had German majority voted to remain in Germany. Regions that had Polish majority voted to join Poland.

>restoring pre-1918 borders
What?
>Austrian-Hungary
>Hitler
pick one
Austrian-Hungary was Zion monarchy. Hitler was Pan-Germanism. Hitler didn't want to restore monarchy, he wanted to kill them.

you can't just make claims like that without any evidence, user

>the Germans living on German clay given to Poland were getting shoahed
Bullshit and lie. See

And, of course, the state of Israel

>the land to the east was polish land that became german land? is this because of the napoleonic wars?
Holy shit, do you even know European history before 19th century?
Have you ever heard of partitions of Poland?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partitions_of_Poland

Are you autistic? At least 85% of pre partition Poland went to the Russian Empire. And that is 1772 borders. Russia had been creeping westward at the expense of Poland Lithuania for at least 200 years.

The Congress of Vienna gave most of Prussia's share of the Polish partitions to Russia (in exchange or getting the Rhineland) and Austia was forced to give much of its Polish land to Russia too.

You can only use the "muh partition" cop out for Posen and West Prussia, none of the other Eastern territories though as they were absolutely ethnically and historically German.

>He could have negotiated peace with Britain and France after restoring the old borders

He tried, it didn't work.

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>Are you autistic? At least 85% of pre partition Poland went to the Russian Empire
Well duh, have I said that it didn't, moron? Germans still stole our most industrialized and richest lands.

>The Congress of Vienna gave most of Prussia's share of the Polish partitions to Russia
Russia didn't get a single piece of land. See pic related.

>You can only use the "muh partition" cop out for Posen and West Prussia, none of the other Eastern territories though as they were absolutely ethnically and historically German
You are absolutely and historically illiterate.
As I said earlier, Poles were majority in EVERY region that belonged to Germany before WW1. In the disputed regions, the democratic referendums were held - and people willingly voted to join Poland.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Silesia_plebiscite
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Prussian_plebiscite_1920

Go ahead, and show me ONE Polish region where Germans were majority after WW1.

After Dunkirk (which he delayed for two days as a peace overture) and the fall of France he sued for peace with the UK dozens of times and was each time refused. Churchill had other ideas, whatever the cost.

Vast majority of your eastern lands were actually lithuanian lands. The territory stolen from Germany at the end of WW1 was Teuton land far before it got "taken" from you.

Pre-1918 borders would have probably been fine. Though, I think late 1938 borders would have been ideal for Germany.


Besides, if you fucks had just given Germany the connection to their eastern lands, WW2 would not have happened. You wouldn't have lost like 80% of your land to Russia (permanently I might add), and National Socialism would have prospered.

Wait, a brit that recognizes Churchill was a massive faggot? That Dunkirk was literally Hitler trying to carry out an "honorable war" (same reason the blitz initially avoided civilian targets, until Churchill decided firebombing civilian centers was okay).

Doesn't matter, 1 german is worth 5 poles.
Go ahead show me one polish invention.

yea its how they speak about how honorable rommel was that pretty much how Germany was honorable thats why they lost

The most upsetting part of being a Briton who knows the wrong side won is understanding that thousands upon thousands of my countrymen literally died for Israel and the Internationalists. Churchill was owned and our people were hoodwinked. Don't blame the British for having the wool pulled over their eyes. They did the same with your people too.

>Vast majority of your eastern lands were actually lithuanian lands
Gee, it's not like if Poland and Lithuania were one state since 15th century.

>The territory stolen from Germany at the end of WW1 was Teuton land far before it got "taken" from you.
Kek, what exactly was a "Teuton" land? Because as far as I'm concerned, the original lands of Teutonic Orders (which claimed them by slaughtering the original, true Prussians) were established in Eastern Prussia that remained in Germany.

>M-muh assumptions
You didn't adress a single point I've made.
Can you point a single Polish region where Poles weren't majority?
Do you acknowledge the fact that there fucking referendums held and people DEMOCRATICALLY voted to join Poland?

>Besides, if you fucks had just given Germany the connection to their eastern lands
Literally 0 reasons why we should have done that. If you give your territory away without a fight there is only one word you can call yourself: cuck. Or Czech.

>You wouldn't have lost like 80% of your land to Russia (permanently I might add)
We reclaimed our lands in west though and Russia don't own our former eastern lands anymore, so I can't complain. Historically, everything is just.

>National Socialism would have prospered
One more reason why opposing this retarded manlet with moustache was a right choice.

My favorite part of the war was how the French got treated by the British. French literally stay behind to try and give the British time to evacuate at Dunkirk. When France fell, they put into their agreement with Germany the bit about the french fleet (probably very close to on par with england's at that point in time) remaining in port and not taking part in the war.

Britain of course started demanding French ships still at sea surrender to them, rather than uphold French treat obligations. When the French ships refused, the British quite literally fired upon them.

When the Germans (later in the war) tried to take the french fleet by force, it was scuttled by the french.

Doesn't even touch on not letting polish fighter pilots take part in V day parades (so as not to upset Stalin). Not that the US didn't do some scumbag shit for our (((masters))). Like handing over white army troops to Stalin at the end of the war.

Actual history:

>Hitler ingeniously retains the Rhineland, sudetenlamd, and even Austria without firing a single shot
>Hitler says we need a corridor of land that used to be germany 20 years ago back to connect east Prussia cause this is retarded senpai
>Poland says no
>Hitler says well you're giving it back or were taking it back
>Britain and France say Poland we defend you if you say no
>Hitler doesn't want war with Britain but believes they will back down after all its german land
>Hitler invades Poland to get the land back
>France and Britain declare war
>6 years later Britain and France give all of Poland to the Soviet Union

Not an argument, but here you go
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Polish_inventions

>6 years later Britain and France give all of Poland to the Soviet Union

^ Ya, it was pretty awesome how France/UK were super duper insistent about guaranteeing Poland... until Stalin attacked them a day or two after Germany. Then apparently they didn't want to declare war on Poland's attackers.

Because he was a puppet who's purpose was to ruin both Europe and Russia. The Soviet Union saw Germany as a fellow outcast country so (((they))) made the two fight each other before they could team up and establish the New World Order.
>Soviets didn't give a damn about the Europeans as Stalin had completely abandoned the "world revolution" bullshit
>All the trade agreements the Soviets had with Germany
>The Soviet Union supporting German expansionism while the rest of Europe got cucked
>Molotov asking Germany to let the USSR join Axis in the 1940
>Stalin refusing to believe his spies about Operation Barbarossa even when they told him the exact date when shit would hit the fan.
But of course, Sup Forums would rather post some liberashka "analytics" from the 90s and keep parroting the meme about "muh evul Soviets trying to counquer Europe". Good goyim.

>>Hitler says we need a corridor of land that used to be germany 20 years ago back to connect east Prussia cause this is retarded senpai

Well Germans shouldn't of establish their little shitty 14th century colony without making a land connection with >H>R>E first.

There was never a land connection between >H>R>E and Prussia until partitions. It is not our fault that Germans couldn't establish a decent sea route.

Furby

You can also add a bulletproof vest to that list.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Szczepanik

What are you even on about? The core of the soviet party was filled with Jews. It's a well known fact that Russia was committing itself to a massive rearmament program.

Am I to believe they were just making a gigantic military to fuck Finland in the ass?

You forgot the part where your nation was literally hijacked by kikes who subsequently sent millions of your people to their deaths.

I think he was kind of forced into the position, but probably wanted to attack France anyways. He's just stupid for allying Japan and italy. Should have let Italy remain "neutral" like sweden and left the Japs to their own affairs.

Wow you opened my eyes Shlomo ...

The Polish guarantee was only against Germany though. They could not give a fuck about the USSR.

Poland was merely supposed to be a check on Germany in the east, replacing Russia in that role as the early USSR was rogue and would not work with the west. Had the Whites won Britain and France would have gladly sold Poland out to Russia.

Always glad to hand over some redpills, my misguided friend.

c'mon man don't make up facts now

Japan would have been a relatively good move, if Japan hadn't been so incredibly fucking awful at not having everyone and their mother know exactly what they were doing.

Their ability to keep their communications secret was a negative value going all the way back to the washington naval treaty.

That on it's own wouldn't have been an insurmountable issue. Yet, throw in their dishonorable attitude about declaring war on the soviets in return for Hitler's war declaration on the United states, and they ended up being useless. If they had been able to force a second front on the Russians, even a losing one, Germany would have been able to kick Russia's teeth in.

Italy, ya, they were easily the most incompetent army of WW2. Navy that while relatively outdated, was numerous enough to where they /should/ have been able to exert relatively good control in the med, but somehow failed in even that. Pulled the Germans into multiple cluster fucks in the balkans/north Africa. It just boggles my mind that they couldn't divert more troops to North Africa and roll Egypt/Middle east. Take control of the Suez, and they would be pretty damn close to just outright closing off the Mediterranean(Would have just required convincing Nationalist Spain to actually join the Axis. Which would have happened if not for that faggot German Ambassador telling them not to do it on the down low)

I've always found that argument very lacking (that the guarantee was only good against X country).

If you guarantee another country's safety, it should be a blank check. If all you are doing is trying to use them as a buffer against another country you don't like, it's super fucking dishonest.

Sucks to be Poland though, bet those stupid fucks thought the UK and France actually gave two shits about them. Should have taken Hitler's offer of friendship.

>Should have taken Hitler's offer of friendship
>"Hand over your land or we will invade you, and then MAYBE you will get a chunk of shitty Ukrainian soil after we invade USSR together, given that we don't fail, of course. Don't forget you're our puppet state from now on"
Top tier diplomacy there, Hitler.
Only a fool wouldn't agree for such a generous offer, aye?

Oh yes Pawel, you certainly made the right choice, kek.

Britain guaranteed the independence of Poland, so the Polish government got cocky and wouldn't cede Danzig.

Hitler asked Britain for peace many times, but Britain refused.

He wanted too much too quickly. His hubris was his downfall.

>Germany destroyed and cucked
>50 years later our second biggest enemy, Russia, destroyed and cucked as well
>We reclaim our western lands
>Russia loses our former eastern lands
>Germany gets nothing
>Poland is still 99% white, ethnically clean, conservative state, relatively rich, but not rich enough to attract "refugees" attention
Played out pretty well if you ask me.

While I can't read a dead man's mind, it's my impression that yes, Germany would have expected at the very least that Poland stop trying to ethnically cleanse Germans in their territory, and give Germany an unrestricted passage through that strip of land.

Probable they would have just wanted the strip in it's entirety, but given you access. Tying your destiny to Germany would have probably given you 60+ years of prosperity, instead of 50 under the yoke of communism, followed by a 15+ year struggle to modernize.

How many of your women were raped? How many men went to Siberia and never returned? How many died at Katyn? How was life for your parents and grandparents under the hammer and sickle? We all lost the Second World War, there's no shame in saying our nations should have behaved differently.

Interesting watch. Can this be verified as real?

Because just like his addiction to morphine and methamphetamine, once he started annexing territories he just could not stop.

He wants Germany to be a superpower, and believes correctly that in the only era only countries with huge continguous territory can be superpowers, like the US and Russia.

In order to make Germany a superpower, therefore, he had to acquire huge continguous territory far beyond the pre-1918 borders, and the only way to do that is Drang nach Osten

>Polish government got cocky and wouldn't cede Danzig.
Enlighten me how were we supposed to "cede" a city that didn't even belong to us, but was legally a Free State under League of Nations governorship.

>Poland stop trying to ethnically cleanse Germans in their territory
Tell me when did we ever try to do that.

>give Germany an unrestricted passage through that strip of land
>Probable they would have just wanted the strip in it's entirety, but given you access
And literally no offer from Germany in exchange. It was not a "deal", it was an ultimatum.

>Tying your destiny to Germany would have probably given you 60+ years of prosperity
Or make us even more fucked had they lost the war, which would most likely happen.

If they did, we'd become their puppet state pretty much like we were to USSR, except that unlike Stalin who actually held no racial grudge against Poles, most of Germans did (even if Hitler himself personally didn't) and after Hitler's death, racial tensions between Poles and Germans would most likely occur. With Germany, obviously, having an upper hand in this conflict - with noone to stop them from genocides this time.

>How many of your women were raped? How many men went to Siberia and never returned? How many died at Katyn?
A lot, but even more Russians and Germans died, so I'm fine with that.

>How was life for your parents and grandparents under the hammer and sickle?
Not that bad, actually. And I'm 100% sure that had history taken the other route, I wouldn't even exist.
And that it pretty much applies to most of you.

Fair enough. We can't agree on everything. Take care and congrats on being far less Jew owned than we are.