Vietnam's defense budget: $5 billion

>Vietnam's defense budget: $5 billion
>USA's defense budget: $580.3 billion

Why did USA lose?

A better question:
WHY did you lose?
Why are you still losing?

hippies

America kicked Germany's shit in and France got their shit kicked in by the Vietnamese

>sage

We just performed a tactical retreat

French lost to vietnam first faggot

It wasn't a war to win

>defense budget
>not attack budget
>tards still wonder why they lost

on a more serious note, the only reason they lost is that WW2 pussified everything and they only brought limited force to bear.

France lost against them too.

French lost Vietnam first

THATS ACTUALLY THE REASON WHY THE FUCKING WAR BEGAN YOU RETARD KRAUT SHITSKIN MUHAMMAD KEK

Dont make us invade your piece of shit land again you monkey

>let's conveniently leave out that the French lost to the Vietnamese and had to call the USA in to help in the first place

germany never ever won a war. how is that even possible?

>germany never ever won a war.

Oh, hi :^)

If America wanted to "win" they literally could have killed every single person in Vietnam.

because it was a war for the military industrial complex. you cant win a war on foreign soil unless you are at war with the entire country. We have been creating bullshit wars consistently since then.

Nothing will change because people in America couldnt give one shit about it. Now we allow low skilled workers to fondle our childrens balls out of fear. we allow big brother to monitor our every move record our conversations in our living rooms in the name of Freedom. good game boomers you handed the country over to an authoritarian state. the government no longer represents the people whatsoever.

The only thing that could possibly change this is a crippling depression or verifiable proof of complete corruption in the government.

France is the reason US even got into Vietnam

>Prussia

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You cannot win this kind of war. It's a lesson that we have been taught since the start of the 20th century.
It doesn't come down to funding, prestige or even who is right, it is decided by the will to fight of both countries, and the US population broke before the North Viatnamese.
It is probable that if the US continued for long enough that they would have won, but the political unrest caused by this would have rocked the US to its core.

These Sup Forums threads are epic xD

wrong.

I don't know to much about the Vietnam war. But wasn't America's goal to to correct that country? We weren't trying to massacre everyone there

The US tried to push democracy in a rural country which had been a french colony for years. It's like the attempts at Democracy in Africa.

At the US homeland, people were getting pissed off that we were in Vietnam over a false-flag and getting killed for practically nothing.

Even if the US conquered North Vietnam, the people would still be loyal to the communist/fascist ideology and you'd get a Zimbabwe

we tried to free the shit out of them.

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If China came into Germany, murdered 2 million Germans, and murdered a whole bunch in France, Poland, etc.

And then left.

Would you say that China "lost"?

The "US lost" meme is propaganda to justify more military spending, more wars, etc.

It was the first war where we stopped focusing on taking and holding enemy ground and instead launched search and destroy missions against the enemy, killing them, and then returning to our bases. This had the negative side effect that the enemy could choose when to engage and when not to. If our troops landed, Charlie could either fight them, or stay hidden and wait for a better opportunity. It was a bad strategy.

Congress and the president were fighting the war instead of letting the military. It was never fought as a war, if it was then there would be no north vietnam today.

Soviet Union and China

USA didn't lose the Vietnam War in the same sense we didn't win WWI. We were part of the winning side, but we did not win the war. Our military did substantially well against the Viet Cong, the Viet Cong achieved their military and political goals because we pulled out. South Vietnam lost the war, because they need us to win.

They're Babylonians

Difference being that the Americans lost, whilst you faggots shat pants and surrendered

surrendered? they had their asses handed to them by the allies. The russians didn't want to let them surrender.

Why'd we lose? Because McNamara was a pile of shit and wanted to run the whole show from DC with all the other politicians rather than letting the military do their job. Compare the success of Operation Linebacker II to Operation Rolling Thunder. That moron was making the Air Force do strategic bombing with figher-bombers, and ground attack with strategic bombers.

U mean soviets kicked both germany and usa

Nope, they even told the USA NOT to come.