What exactly is 'real communism'?

What exactly is 'real communism'?

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The fevered dream of retards because it's contrary to human nature.

A stateless, classless, society in which the means of production is shared equally amongst all people

100 million dead

an ant colony

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This
also "real communism" is impossible and marx was retarded

It wasn't yet implemented.
Then we will change human nature.

that thing you step on and say "ew stepped in shit"

complete lack of currency or surrogates I'd say
it was a major part of the definition they taught in USSR schools I think

What i never understood about this ideal version of communism is the fact that someone (or some group) would need to enforce the laws that allow for such a society to exist..

Which creates classes. A ruling, lawmaking class, and it's subordinates (the workers and people who live in that system). And again, that cant be true communism because there are again, classes.

Anyone care to explain?

Communism is, when some ultraidiots get duped into giving all their property, lives, time and energy to some psychopaths ( politicians ) , which then own all of their stuff and them themselves.

it's total surrender into total slavery.

And when those superidiots finally wake up and speak against, they get shot.

This is Communism in a nutshell and nailed right on the head.

That's not possible. We are biological predators.

A bullet in the brain for a sack of grain

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there is nothing to explain, u already nailed it. it's retarded. that's why the people cheering communism are typically the lowest IQ or psychopaths

how you can be a communist living in poland is beyond me. "change human nature." What an evil thing to say

It's when communism, a system that is fatally easy to corrupt, is run by humans who are magically incorruptible.

>real communism is a matriarchy of mindless orbiters who do her bidding and are also her sons

Makes sense.

Read Marx. Until that is achieved, it's not real communism. However, if it takes that many lives to achieve communism, it's not going to work.I do agree that real communism hasn't been tried, but I don't agree that it will ever be achieved. Capitalism isn't really viable option either

old people are soaked with this ideology
and then there is RAZEM party..

Worker control of wealth.

No rich oligarchs exploiting/parasitizing the working class and using a corrupt financial system to enslave them.

It's actually very similar to Libertarianism in many respects as it enables workers to chose how their labor is used.

it hasn't been tried yet?

Saged

That's not true we are omnivorious.

And biology is merely an obstacle. We will soon be capable of changing our biology through genetic engineering. It's already began in China.
Butthurt American c*pitalist will always be fucked in the ass by his Jew CEO's earning 300x more than he does and he will even thank him for that.

Fantasy cult that solves all the world's problems and evils by blaming them on [insert thing you don't like here] and only if you treat the word of Marx as that of God.

"Human nature can't be changed" is a meme. It was tested with apes close to humans genetically. Human nature adapts to its surroundings, so it can be changed. However I don't think communists will achieve this succesfully, not throughout history, not now.

that is literally pure communism.
commies aren't people.

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Hippie Communes. The fucking Hippies did Communism "better" than the Soviet Union.

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It demands a different law making organ, how about direct democracy?

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The desire for a mommy.

Communism = the abolition of private property rights
Socialism = the violation of private property rights

Imagine a world where every person is treated equally as an individual with agency and is given the same tools to reach their goal.
The opposite of that is communism.

Whatever Fearless Leader says it is. Or off to gulag with you.

Doesn't exist a "real communism". It's substantially genocide and mind atrophy. Every communist leader followed the Karl Marx rules over the totalitary state and the progressive tax. But communism isn't a ideology, it's a culture! It changes it's ideology so many times during its history more than I changed my underwears in whole life. This culture has just one goal: conquer the power whatever the way. Formerly, they were used to conquer the power using guns, but now, in some places of Latin America specially in the Colleges and other institutions, their focus in on the culture. They noticed that the only way to reach the power is owning with the culture. That means: owning churches, schools, mainstream media, colleges, families, etc.

A myth.

Direct democracy enforced by whom?

USA can't explain what is real communism.
Because of anti-red and cold-war and history.
Communism is as pre-society, where there is no money and no indo-european trifunctionalism.
It's all about Tradition.
To be(communism) VS to have(capitalism).

A lie invented by a lazy Jewish parasite who spent his entire life leeching off of other people.

It claimed a bunch of things that didn't happen on the basis of things that weren't true (lol labor theory of value) and eventually allowed a bunch of dictators to seize power in gullible countries and murder many millions of gullible people.

Good Little Leftists like to pretend that it's something else, because facing the truth would require them to recognize that they are useful idiots, and millions of people just like them died screaming and begging for mercy whenever they got their way.

It makes my dick as hard as a diamond to imagine them all being herded into the Lubyanka building, tortured for confessions to "lack of party loyalty" and then shot in the small of the back, left to writhe and squirm as they bled out.

Think of how many good little leftists died this way, begging, begging, pleading for their mommies. That's Communism. A pile of good little leftists all begging to live, but dying because of leftism. And when they die, there is either an eternal black void awaiting them, or infinite hellfire, because every religion hates Thieves, and every Leftist is a thief, period. With their teeth bashed out and their fingers broken and their bellies slit open they have suffered their just desserts, and the only thing awaiting them is a lake of flame.

The people in the democracy? I.e. you would collectively agree on rules that everyone has to follow. This could be pared with free movement, to allow people to escape nations whose rules they do not accept.

Sounds great, fellow libertarian

Communism is the future!

Communism is libertarian in it's final stage, but yes, I am a libertarian!

Kill yourself

>Communism is libertarian in it's final stage
You seem confused. Communism's final stage is when the dictators who employed it as a tool to recruit stupid college kids and union leaders to their side pull the carpet out from under them and establish a totalitarian dictatorship with themselves and their friends at the top.

Then the mass executions of cooperative parties begins, and all of the GOOD LITTLE LEFTISTS like you die screaming and clawing at the snow, looking for dead grass to eat.

Then you get decades of tyranny and poverty, occasionally broken up by a war where people die to secure suckling pig and rich, red roast beef for the glorious leader. And as he drinks deeply of his hot, fresh dumpling soup and stuffs his mouth with gravy-laden meat pie, GOOD LITTLE LEFTISTS like you beg and scream for your lives in Finland or Afghanistan, as Right Wing tribal men (the only kind of men) break all of your fingers, and pull out all of your teeth, and eventually behead you for fun.

And whence comes the equality? Well. That comes never, because Communism isn't about equality or technology or the future or anything, it's a trick to get good little leftists like you to give Lenin his power so that he can eat roast beef and suckling pig every day for the rest of his life while you bash your teeth out on the kitchen table over and over because you heard it would upset porky.

Are you autistic

Socially impossible
Inhuman
Bad
Repressive
Idealistic

the special brand that hasn't been tried yet

Dear god, user, go easy on him. He's just a kid.

>What exactly is 'real communism'?
Cancer.
Sage.

communism in its final stage it's a gun against your head and the state controlling everything! But don't fogert this: communism doesn't resist without capitalism, The URSS it's an example, otherwise they completely fail. But all this capitalism is clandestine.

It's had many real-world attempts, but they are all variations centered around this theme . It always ultimately fails, because it discourages excellence, creativity, and hard work.

Why try to be better if you will always receive the same rations as everybody else?

If you change Lenin with Trump, then yes, it checks out. Good review!

How about the people being the state, a direct democracy, like you know, the definition of communism states?

Jesus Christ, you just got blown the fuck out and this is your response? No wonder your women are servicing refugees.

>Then we will change human nature.
Well that's hubris if I ever saw it.

A classless stateless society in which all needs are met.This cannot happen until the defeat of capitalism.

We all are, I'm afraid :/

Well you're certainly heading in that direction

:^)

Good gracious, I would've thought you Venezuelans would have learned your lesson by now.

The lesson learned is that the capitalists must be defeated through force, because they cannot put up with even a hint of reformism.

Singularity: Everyone is "the same" and "one".
It's literally the semitic element that will slave us.

Something that hasnt been tried before

>Everyone ITT ignores the truth.

You've not addressed a thing he said muhammad.

And why are you putting the lives of 70 IQ subhumans on the same level as white men?

What nation? #noborders

Please, tell me more about how things in Venezuela should be made even worse than they already are.

Deaths from wars isn't the same as genociding and starving your own people due to incompetence you dumb fuck.

All the problems come from US actions and support for saboteurs on the economy, as well as actions of the national bourgeois to undermine the economy.

>The slave trade
>People starving to death in Africa
>Wars fought by governments
>A bunch of other shit that has nothing to do with private ownership

I love watching Leftists scramble and scratch.

Ah, I see. The government propaganda has really gotten to your head hasn't it? I guess it must be like 1984 over there or something if they have managed to get you to blame all your problems on the capitalists.

>the means of production is shared equally amongst all people
Okay, great.
Get someone to weave a shirt. That's fine. That's the whole industry Engels and Marx spoke about originally.
Get someone to sell you a harvest of produce. Cool, shit works.
Now, get a group of people to build an airplane in a timely, cost-effective manner.
One of these things is not like the other.

What about people of your country coming to mine looking for refuge over your sweet political system?

>Enemies of the people leaving
This is not a problem

oh, maybe that's because they're almost killing for food

Let me ask you a question. If all your nation's problems are from capitalist subversion, then why doesn't your government trust their people with guns or free speech? Over here in capitalist America we are allowed to own firearms and speak our mind, and yet despite Karl Marx himself saying that the proletariat should be armed, you can neither own weapons nor speak freely.

We can do both

>Stateless Somalia
According to Bakunin, Marx, and Rothbart, who are commonly cited by Leftists as proof that all Anarchy is Socialism, there is no such thing as stateless Capitalism.

Ergo by the retarded argument of your own gay ideologues, Somalia MUST be Socialist, since it is Stateless. Your move.

>double thread.
Enjoy ban faggot OP

Mental Retardation Applied

No you can't.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Venezuela

gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/venezuela

And the commie lies through his teeth

>Western media sources
It is all propaganda lies.

>The fevered dream of retards because it's contrary to human nature.

All humans lived under communism until 10,000 years ago.

Today perhaps less than 100 do, mostly in the Amazon.

Saying it is against human nature is kind of silly. 2000 years ago and 100km north of modern Stockholm or Helsinki, people were living in communism.

Capitalism has existed a a predominant world economy for less than 200 years. Saying it is "human nature" and the more than tens of thousands of years of humans living as communists, is silly, and ahistorical.

>Wikipedia
>propaganda
So how much is your government paying you to shill for them? I hope it's enough to feed your family, what with the food crisis and all.

A meme.

Where it say Socialism/Communism. Open up Wikipedia and look up system of government.

kys

Yeah, that's why Venezuela's is going so well, and every western country is in the shitter economically.

You should read about imperialism. The West is always more wealthy due to its economic exploitation of the rest of the world.

>Doesn't know about Calvin Coolidge

>all humans lived under communism
All humans were ruled by Jewish commissars who used ideology as an excuse to murder them at will until 10,000 years ago?

Wow, those kikes really got some mileage.

You are sitting on the world's largest deposit of oil. You should be an opec country, yet, your supermarkets are empty,

Wikipedia isn't a good information source.

Jews were banned in every Socialism, even today are banned in North Korea and China. On other hand whole USA is circumcised and bows down to Israel.

It sure is better than your shitposting.

lol