Eighteen months after joining a study on using marijuana to treat post-traumatic stress disorder, Johns Hopkins University has pulled out without enrolling any veterans, the latest setback for the long-awaited research.
A Johns Hopkins spokeswoman said the university’s goals were no longer aligned with those of the administrator of the study, the Santa Cruz, Calif.-based Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS). A spokesman for MAPS said the dispute was over federal drug policy and whether to openly challenge federal rules that say medical cannabis research must rely on marijuana grown by the federal National Institute on Drug Abuse.
One of the lead researchers from MAPS recently did just that, in a PBS report that said the government-grown marijuana provided for the study was of poor quality and contaminated with mold. Hopkins quit the study two days later.
Although MAPS will continue the research at a private lab in Arizona, the departure of the well-known university in Baltimore is a blow, analysts said, in part because the campus was considered a prime test site that could draw on Maryland’s large population of veterans.
>government growing monopoly Trash. If there's degeneracy in this country, at least let me benefit off of pot stock instead of them tax me.
Michael Barnes
>muh medical marijuana
It's a meme. They just use that as a cover for degeneracy, same as the "hemp everything" shit that never went anywere.
Hunter Walker
I dunno I buy three bottle of liquid (tincture), two for daytime, one for nighttime with a medical marijuana card at a dispensary here every two weeks or so. I would say my use is fairly medicinal. It helps me exercise and calms my anxiety without the addictive aspects of benzos or alcohol which I have managed to cease.
Ryder Hernandez
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William Jones
damn you sure showed him with that shit
Noah Nelson
@119121907 You're obviously being sarcastic, but the reason why you bothered saying it at all eludes me. It's really weak bait. I won't even give you a [you] for it
Logan Fisher
bump
Justin Perry
I am trying to be reasonable here. I don't think everyone should use it but it has certainly been helpful to me in providing a good feeling and some pain relief (yes about equivalent to aspirin but it is helpful) in a less dangerous manner than alcohol or other drugs. I think given how many veterans get hooked on alcohol and pills it could be helpful to them too.
Owen Brown
>Johns Hopkins University has pulled out without enrolling any veterans
Regardless of politics and Sup Forums's outlook on psychology, I don't see how this isn't a confound. How can you worry about treating PTSD and exclude veterans from the population and sample? Then it goes further and exposes an internal problem with the supplies. Pulling out of this study was the right choice.
Josiah Hall
I believe you. It is a possible alternative to certain other drugs. However, the general populace can't be so trusted, nor the globalists, looking for an easy way for people to drug themselves into submission. Stoners suck, and their culture is cancer.
Also, for your memeing pleasure... >COMMON SENSE WEED LAWS
Carter Cox
I'm not really a part of stoner culture but I met one of the researchers listed in this article at a conference for medical marijuana. It is an interesting world, to say the least.
Josiah Davis
This guy is the worst possible thing for the legalization movement other than some stoned white kid shooting up a school and then getting into a head on collision with a bus of baby jews. I really wish he would just smoke himself into a coma or something.
Elijah Taylor
Anecdotal but I've found most people that smoke aren't stoner or express the culture. I don't support or trust the government or the populaces in this instance but people should be able to use whatever they want in the privacy of their home. If you want to regulate pharma grade THC and tax it, go for it and regulate it but if people want to grow their own on their own land and cultivate it I don't see the problem. I feel the same way about poppy even.
Leo Baker
Are you talking about the guy in the picture or the guy that dropped out of the study?
James Brooks
Picture lol
Leo Butler
How about mixing up some heroin? It's in the privacy of my own home How about growing my own poppy plants to make opiates? I mean hospitals use morphine, why can't I? It'll be in my own home so it wont be medical grade.
Jose Jackson
I should fix myself here, I mean university, not "the guy".
Sure. Go for it. When you start distributing it that could become an issue but I don't give a shit what you do to yourself on your own property.
Juan Miller
Well the issue is more that the dosing for opiates has a narrower therapeutic index than cannabis does. You are much more likely to overdose and die on opiates made yourself than cannabis. That's an actual reason to buy opiates from a pharmacy rather than home-brew. But desu I don't really think people should be restricted in growing plants of any sort for personal use (meaning low quantities).
Tyler Butler
The issue isn't dosing, it's false equivalence and an apples to oranges comparison. THC isn't comparable to opiates other than it's a psychoactive. The issue here is more about when something crosses the line from a personal grow in quantity to industrial or with the intent to distribute.
Levi Ross
Isn't that just CBD oil? That doesn't really get you high - CBD is the actually useful part of the plant.
Charles Roberts
They sell two kinds. One has primarily THC, low CBD, and the other is equally balanced between the two. Both of them are useful chemicals but CBD reduces the effects of THC when they are mixed. The idea that CBD can have all the therapeutic benefits of THC without a subjective high is false though.
Jack Robinson
>lolbertarians And what if I invite people onto my property and we all agree that we're gonna share a nice deep dose of heroin. They are a guest on my private property and they are ok with it.
If I share my shit with friends I'm distributing and you cannot tell me with a straight face that there's a single person who grows out there that doesn't "share their stock"
Jeremiah Young
There are both THC/CBD and CBD tinctures. CBD still has its effects. Something like an indica has more CBD than a sativa and that contributes more to the body high than the the "head high" in a sativa. As the plant gets older in the flowering stage the canabanoids convert to THC.
I'm clearly not libertarian or AnCap when I said it's an issue when distribution becomes a problem, furthermore libertarian implies I agree to other policies than simple privacy issues, I take a different stance on economics and government. I really don't care so much if someone comes into your home and uses. it's more of an issue when you hit the streets for profit, push it on people, peddle it it or start soliciting it.
Julian Reed
I don't think Indica necessarily has more CBD.
Lucas Mitchell
Maybe not by volume but harvest time is a major influence on strain and its psychoactive effects. Most strains are hybrids now anyways, otherwise cannabinoids undeniably convert to THC in flowers over time. I don't believe you even need a flowering strain for CBD.
Chase Baker
What does them being hybridized have to do with the THC content?
Jason Parker
That depends on the phenotype, even within 1 strain that will come up differently within 4 plants based on a punnett square. There are too many factors, hybridization would influence the harvest time more than the innate cannabinoid content.
Tyler Phillips
>Invite friend into house "Hey man you want to try some of my stuff?" "Sure man." Solicitation right there friendo.
>It's ok to break the law if it's within the privacy of your own home.
You're literally retarded and are trying to hide behind "distribution" as an excuse, so I'll say it once again. >Lolbertarians
Brandon Nelson
Fair enough, I'm not libertarian though and I don't believe this applies to most laws. I just don't have an issue what consenting adults ingest in privacy. How would the government even know if you broke the law if it happened in private in this case? If someone dies or leaves nodding off in public there are clearly consequences however the government and police normally react and report, not prevent.
Lincoln Torres
If any of you think weed shouldn't be legal because you think people would have easier access, that's not true. You literally have to be autistic as fuck to not find a plug for weed, considering a lot of people smoke it. It's better the state gets that money rather than potential criminals or people that can't use that money towards infrastructure or schools/hospitals.
Parker Phillips
You do understand that laws are more then just what is illegal and not? Laws can (And are) also put into place to deter certain behavior and serve as guidelines for society. It's why prostitution and "escort services" are illegal, it's also why things like bestiality are illegal.
Noah Reed
>implying the state isn't composed of criminals >implying they would spend it on infrastructure or services
Brandon Phillips
I agree but the question was about the government having a growing monopoly, not whether it should be legal or illegal. Do you think the government should solely be allowed to grow it and regulate whether you can have access to cultivation yourself?
I don't believe laws will stop that behavior regardless so it is an issue of consequence, furthermore you keep framing it around false equivalence. Are we still talking about opiates, THC or all laws? Going further, drug use isn't prostitution nor bestiality.
Henry Hernandez
Nigger did I say stop? I said deter because that's all the state can do without being perceived as authoritarian. I also wasn't making a direct comparison but pointing out the fact that there are laws against these things but enforcement of them is very low. The laws are in place in this case for the same reason there is a fucking warning light that comes on when you turn on the heater for a stove top.
>False Equivalence >I don't care what people do in the privacy in their own homes I asked if you're fine with people using things like heroin or opiates, to which you said "Go for it" as long as they aren't distributing. I then made this post to which you conceded that if a person asks another person if they want to try shit it's still solicitation. If you're going to try and play stupid buzzword logical fallacy bingo games at least pay attention to the flow of conversation.
>to which you conceded that if a person asks another person if they want to try shit it's still solicitation
No, that was you, friendo. You were the one that brought in another person. I said distribution is a problem from the start and the consequences are present. You constantly ramped it up, from THC and poppy to heroin, from private use to sharing. I said I don't care, not whether it should be legal or not. Distribution is a problem legally because you're probably going to OD someone else and plethora of other problems, Do I give a shit when a junkie dies though? No. You're joking yourself if you think some druggy is going to be "deterred".
Bentley Wright
I've heard the government grown weed is so awful that nobody would ever really use it.
Why not just get stuff grown by American dispensaries in legal states? It'll be of quality people will actually use. Get some medical strains that people are actually using for PTSD in medical states.
Isaiah Richardson
Because they can't legally use cannabis grown by a dispensary in a medical study.
Dominic Jackson
It's just stupid. if the DEA and FDA want legitimate tests on medical marijuana they need to use medical marijuana, not this trash grown by NIDA.
Aaron Richardson
Do you know the actual law on this? Is it an APA regulated thing? State, Federal, FDA? There's so much unethical shit the government lets corps and private sector get away with that this is absurd. It should be left up to the research institution, consenting subjects and whomever is publishing the article if they want to or not.
Nathan Campbell
I am not sure what particular law applies but as a Schedule 1 substance to do research the marijuana has to be federally approved. Perhaps this is relevant?
