Now that Trump (a conservative) is in power, is liberalism the new counter-culture?

Now that Trump (a conservative) is in power, is liberalism the new counter-culture?

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nope
but it depends on country, worldwide, it still is conservatism

The only people who voted for Trump are rural and suburban retards.

City people all voted for Hillary.

REMEMBER TO SAGE, FOLKS.

(Talking specifically to the redditor babbys who failed to kill themselves today).

This.

But in all seriousness we can't let this man get the nuclear codes.

>backed by Google, Facebook, and countless media outlets and their hounds
>counter culture

SAGE

The only people who voted for Trump are rural and suburban retards.

City people all voted for Hillary.

>new counter-culture
>new
PJW confirmed for newfaggot

This.

DRUMPF IS FINISHED & BTFO

This fight over who gets to be the counter-culture is petulant bullshit. Friendly reminder that most of our counter-cultural tropes come from silent generation and boomer shitheels, and should be treated as the self-indulgent jackoff that it is.

Legitimate form of prowtest

Who cares? Who is right about such and such issue and who is wrong about issues? You come to actual conclusions this way.

this is true, fuck city people

sage reply; It is not against establishment in government, it is against establishment in culture, which is still liberalism.

Drumpf won't be in power much longer

Only city retards voted for Hillary. Rural and suburban people voted for Trump.

MOINSTREAM MEDIOR

No, because while the government is conservative the media (culture) is still liberal and now possibly pushing liberalism even harder.

kek

>"the left is all about the working class proles oppressed by the 1%"
>"LOL FUCKING IDIOTS HOLY SHIT WOW RURAL BLUE COLLAR WORKERS ARE SO DUMB GOD DAMN WHY DO THEY NOT SUPPORT BIG GOV OBAMA AND HIS ARMY OF PROPAGANDISTS"

yeah fuck trump

Apologize.

Counter culture was always liberalism though. Not going to change any time sooner. However, what I DO think will experience a counter culture is the reformation of a more leftist establishment, which is what the people need.

So much wrong with this post

no

They're centrist, hell, almost all leftists you'll find on the Internet are centrist. If anything, the left needs to be more consistently to the left. THIS is what counterculture would look like. However, you must understand that suburban and rural populations are in decline, so soon they will be irrelevant to the general population worldwide. This is an inescapable truth you will have to deal with.

And, when this translates to the government. You will slowly see the ultimate counterculture in full effect.

How is it wrong? Explain yourself, please.

nope, the media, education system and Hollywood are still liberal as fuck, they still have cultural hegemony so they can't pretend to be counterculture

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Counter culture is always against what's currently the cultural power

moron

They're not wrong. And if anything, wouldn't you just be the shill yourself if you don't like facts?

And that cultural power is centrism, not liberalism.

oh yeah so many people are upset at some illusory concept of "centrists"

that's some stupid ass shit

I bet people memed it, then shilled for free because they are master trolls.

Allow me to explain this further; we really need elected officials who put people over profits and silliness.

That's literally Jill Stein's slogan. "People, Planet, and Peace over Profit.

You just have to get involved and really look. There ARE people like that. You have to donate, volunteer, GET INVOLVED.

Above explains the actual governmental counterculture at work, along with the embedded political one.

>Wanting to be counterculure

Fuck off. I prefer not basing my culture on being against something else.

Can you explain why this site rails on centrism, along with the various left think tanks? This is what division comes from. The centrist powers purposely divide and conquer the two political sides for their own profit and silliness.

Memes or not, take a look at population trends and what is soon to come. Deductive Reasoning, friendo.

Once they dismantle the democratic party they should put her in charge. I'm not liberal but it's true.

>posting the exact same reply 1000 times
I'm sure every one of those posts was completely relevant and organic. They're not bots at all!

He's not very bright, is he?

Yep.

That document is def asking for immunity: "General Flynn certainly has a story tell,[...] should the circumstances permit".

Are Trump fanboys so bad at reading between the lines that they can't see this? Well, I wouldn't be surprised.

>PJW
>conservative

He's an edgy liberal.

>Trump
>conservative

He's an early 2000s liberal.

Nope. They're both centrists. Centrists who care more about profit over people.

>le centrist meme

Nope, the only way ((((centrism)))) goes is left.

I wish PJW would go away. He makes Conservatism so faggy.

>people who literally care about making profits over helping people out
>their own personal gain

Explain to me how that is leftism?

>implying conservatism was ever worth it

This is where you're wrong. Most of Sup Forums is and was leftist. National Socialism is leftism.

>(((centrists))) shill for poopdick marriage
>(((centrists))) shill for trannies in bathrooms
>(((centrists))) shill for jewish interests
>(((centrists))) shill for degeneracy

How is that NOT left?

Liberalism still controls mainstream media and Hollywood and therefor can still not be the counter culture

It's once again, for personal profit over the people. True human rights aren't exacted through this subversiveness.

Just wait.

In 8 years, when trump has done his 8 years, we are all fucked.

The day the steps out of the oval office, the leftists, SJW and jews will take total control.

Never ever again will they allow conservatives or the right to gain any power

Why does this über-faggot use filters ugly 13 year old girls used 10 years ago when posting on facebook precursors?

If this guy really cares about any right wing movement the best thing he can do is to stop posting anything.

He's so fucking cringey Jesus christ.

FLUMPTY FLUMPHT BTFO.

Nice conspiracy theory, friendo. Most of the entertainment industry still has unconscious problems that can be traced to one's personal profit rather than the needs and wants of what the people demand.

Conservatism is shit. Ethnic fascism, natsoc, and western civilization are the actual counterculture

>In 8 years
>Never ever again will they allow conservatives or the right to gain any power

You could be right. This is why the next 8 years are very critical.

Yes, start listening to Chapo Trap House and tattoo "fuck capitalism" on your forearm with a ball point pen and a safety pin

The day Trump is out of office, true counterculture in the government can take flight. Hopefully it shall be soon. It seems as if the majority of this board is echoing my sentiments and you should take account into this as well.

He's a centrist, he is not anything else, but a centrist.

>conservatism is STILL the new counter-culture
I don't get this point. If your views are contrarian to what most people believe - it doesn't itself make your views more valid or anything.
Posing being on the "counter-" side as something worthy by itself is basically the special snowflake syndrom in action.

>ethnic fascism
>natsoc

Fair enough.

>Western Civilization

Not exactly.

It's reactionary politics to centrism, what more can you expect? This is counterculture. It's rebelling against the centrist establishment and putting us condensed and therefore ironically divided as a consequence.

How is it a conspiracy theory when its true?

>...the media are awash with unfounded allegations, outrageous claims of treason, and vicious innuendo directed against him... No reasonable person, who has the benefit of advice from counsel, would submit to questioning in such a highly politicized witch hunt environment without assurances against unfair prosecution

Who's failing to read between the lines here? First off, it explicitly mentions that he's looking for assurances against prosecution, so the fact he's trying to secure immunity for his testimony is not something you have to close read. The part that actually requires reading is the language explaining his reticence. Specifically, it's impossible to miss unless you're pushing an agenda or braindead that whatever he has to say will not implicate the administration.

Because it's not necessarily liberalism, perhaps it's just capitalism and free-market enterprise?

Are we really going to discredit free press here? You realize this is what made society great in the first place, correct? Tell that to fascism.

Also, let me add one other point; that doesn't make much sense considering that the committee, while "bipartisan" is headed by Republicans. In fact, it has broken any semblance of "independence" multiple times over the course of the last few weeks w/ rather poor decision-making skills on Nunes part.

Then again I personally don't see how their will be a "bombshell" of any kind (either for or against Trump), and just see this as a publicity stunt by a hypocrite who probably shouldn't have tried to step into politics, as evidenced by his ridiculously short stay in office.

Let me finish by explaining to you that you are just being delusional. There's no way in hell that Flynn, who had to resign because of ties to Russia during the campaign, will testify against Trump's "opponents".

Shut up

Kek

u have muslim immigrants to worry about, not this

u may not make it 8 years.

>who had to resign because of ties to Russia during the campaign
"Ties to russia", yeah, no.

I only had two points to make. One, that it was not implied that Flynn wants immunity from implicating himself through his own testimony, it was explicitly stated. Two, whatever his testimony, it won't implicate the administration.

Anything else you think I may have been saying is of your own making.

>hostile communist media corporations made America great
explain exactly how or retract your statement and fist fuck yourself

Are we going to pretend Flynn DIDN'T lie to Trump?

He lied abut his ties to Russia. Why else would he not be there? You are a cultist who refuses to accept actual facts. Most of us here on Sup Forums are tired of people like you.

Nope. Only when the shadow government kikes get removed will libtards get their title of 'rebellious youth' back

That fookin mainstream meteor is at it again

Stop saying TIES to Russia it's a weasel word so you can keep playing obscurantist Jewish word games rather than talking straight. This whole Russia narrative is built on a foundation of Talmudic sophistry, prove me wrong protip you can't

Communist media doesn't exist in America. It's free press. Communism and free press are oxymoronic. Don't like facts? Don't read them, or perhaps, educate yourself and usurp what is in front of you.

No one who asks for immunity is innocent. This is fact.

Ties implies connection. The cultist Trump fanboy has lost the argument yet again, Sad!

That's not even remotely a fact.

Go tell all your coworkers you voted for Hillary. Now go tell all your coworkers you voted for Trump. The more widelt accepted statement cannot be counterculture by definition
Have some sage

>free press
>all pushing the same narrative
>owned by the same five globalist media tycoons
>they're not communist this time like they always were in the past and continue to be
Stay retarded shill

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Oh wow, a Democratic member of the house agrees with you, it must be so.

Your worldview hinges on manufactured implications, nothing in touch with reality. Fortunately your side is as weak as it has been for over 100 years and is breathing it's last gasp

The immunity is in regards to statements made during his confirmation, not the pants on head "Russian collusion" narrative. Either way, he was almost certainly only in the administration as a means of spooking the leakers and when his job was done he likely wanted to leave

Then why do the concept of op-eds exist? This is OPINION-based journalism, which implies that is free press. Countries who exhibit this usually rank higher in this category. America has only recently picked this up compared to more advanced countries such as those in Germany and the rest of Europe.

Fuck he's so cringy

Nobody's saying it's government mandated Communist press you idiot. You don't have to be even remotely intelligent to see that the mainstream press leans hard left in this country. It's the literal reason Fox News was created. If the press didn't lean left Fox nNews would be out of business

>people read print media
>print media matters
>implying print media isn't owned by the same five jews who own tv media
Just because the tv agrees with you doesn't mean it's right, or free, or indicative of a good press

Conservatism doesn't have cultural dominance.
It doesn't have a hollywood.
it doesn't have mainstream media.
it doesn't have jews backing it.

so no.

WTF? I'm mentally H ill now!

"We're the counter-culture" bullshit is maybe the most autistic thing I've ever seen. No legitimate political movement should be aiming to be the counter-culture. You should be aiming to be the mainstream. Paul Watson is just trying to be edgy and create the counter-culture meme to make up for the fact he probably was uncool at school. Rather than fighting over the counter-culture label the right (whatever that entails) should be encouraging those within the movement into academia and media. Take back the institutions from the left.

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Trump is no conservative.

Trump is a civic nationalist who want propper capitalism and a small state back.
He's pretty liberal on most issues.

You're right about the jnstitutions, but the counterculture meme is how the left took them in the first place

You seem to labor under the delusion that a free press is not agenda-driven, and therefore is above scrutiny. Never mind that people who believe this will in the same breath warn that any media source that isn't a megacorporate subsidiary is probably fake news.

Cracks me up how leftists will go on and on about the evils of corporate culture and how the bigger the company the worse it is, then flip on CNN and go vote for Hillary Clinton

It isn't, conservatism was fighting the culture change every step of the way.