MGTOW cucks absolutely BTFO'd by based Jordan Peterson

MGTOW cucks absolutely BTFO'd by based Jordan Peterson

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Gay confirmed.

>if you are a man who is having trouble with women, the problem isn't the women, it's you
>because the women are telling you whats wrong with you
>and if you don't listen, it's you
Ok I am listening. The women are telling me I am 5'4 and ugly. Now what?

Fuck MGTOW.
youtu.be/Er3vu2IVLjc

3DPD is the negative archetype, and 2D is the positive archetype.

S O R T

Is OP a pathetic weasel?

Sort yourself OP.

Be me: watch that new mgtow Chanel that keeps popping up on YouTube feed. Can't wait till they expose "gold digging who're". Not convinced they have a point. Watch second video... end up agreeing with woman's complaints... Mgtow s are jerks.

>says MGTOW only presents the negative archetype of women
>presents zero evidence of modern women having any positive archetype characteristics
>just says YOU ARENT LISTENING
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Go the way of the prostitutes, my son. They are pure.

lower your standards or get rich

MGTOW is for losers like this guy:

youtube.com/watch?v=9Dy8TlKCk5c

Even so, I don't understand the love for Jordan Peterson. He always comes across as a little whiny. I don't dislike him though.

post the full vid you cuck

>mgtow
>any single mom I want

anyways why does he assume mgtow have a problem getting women?

>5"4 and ugly
That's just dating on hard mode my friend.

Because most of them do. A substantial amount of MGTOWs just have a "fox and the grapes" mentality.

how would he know? what is he basing this on besides pure speculation.

>if you are a man who is having trouble with women, the problem isn't the women, it's you
>because the women are telling you whats wrong with you
>and if you don't listen, it's you

Yes, the women of Sweden wanted a bunch of effeminate cucks and subconsciously regret it so badly that they literally import shitskins full of disease to rape them so they can feel the touch of a man again. If you listen to any woman and you aren't a child you're a cuck. Simple as that.

guys help me out
Can someone point me to a youtuber that confronts Peterson views?
Not Sam i alredy saw those

are you skilled in anything?

Until you make women second class citizens MGTOW will not stop, its a response to the feminazi controlled white countries of today that demonize men and favor the animal behavior of women that destroy civilization NOT HURR IM A BITTER VIRGIN THAT HATES WOMEN DURR that all the femanons in this thread are nodding their heads on as I speak.

5'5'' here - know that feel bro.

I hoard all my money
I've had a vasectomy
I live a life of absolute leisure

I spend zero time on women, but instead on intellectual pursuits.

>pls someone touch my penis. :(

Most of the MGTOW YouTube channels are full of loser neckbeards. Do I seriously have to explain this?

>I am 5'4 and ugly.
shiat bro, welp you have a choice get a fat wifu

>The most ugly of man will get along with the most ugly of woman

a fat blob will make it for you, i dont know if its nice to have sex with a woman that has a weight of 200kg but you can give it a try

Yes I'm an engineer, a powerlifter, a pianist, and guitarist

She's a whiny bossy pagan jewess mental case

move to asia

link them for me.

>MGTOW
>>>/leddit/
fuck off

does he know most MGTOW are divorced men?

youtube.com/user/killerklown333
youtube.com/user/Vention1MGTOW
youtube.com/watch?v=MD67EZd4fe0
youtube.com/watch?v=rhwn34008Ew

Just a few.

Whoa whoa whoa.

Careful with the accusations. I need proof he is a jew before I permanently disavow him.

>if you are a man who is having trouble with women, the problem isn't the women, it's you
>because the women are telling you whats wrong with you
>and if you don't listen, it's you

God bless J.B.P

Whats the point of a Vasectomy if you never get laid anyway?

Its just NAWALT packaged in some Jungian gibberish.

Bruh, here: youtube.com/watch?v=vGCBkRua3OI

If this fat dude can get some gash, then so can you

wait a fucking minute MGTOW isn't the new Kanye album?

What the fuck was I talking about for so long

seconded

Peterson is such a fucking hack, holy shit.

full video, as opposed to OP's useless clickbait

youtu.be/yXZSeiAl4PI

>Leafs and betas giving advice on how to waste life on sluts
>Some shame for not being a bitch
>Some recommend land whales

Sentence is death

>MGTOW

So what will these guys do when they hit their mid-30s, and they're going home every night alone because they're past their prime, the hot women are all married/divorced with kids, they start to get tired/hungover a lot easier and more often, hair is thinning, etc. and they realize they want a family?

I think MGTOW is retarded but for different reasons than him I guess

If you are having issues with women it can also depend on your environment. If you are living in a lower class area where all the women are whores popping xanax, well there you go!

Does MGTOW actually claim ALL women are that way? I thought it was more of a risk calculation. You never know what a woman will become and with the threat of divorce or some psychosis developing it is safest to avoid marriage or some shit.

Seems he might have presented a bit of a strawman honestly. But maybe he didn't. I know nothing about MGTOW.

Theoretically they're in the same boat as the divorced guy at the same age, except without the courts fucking their life over.

Suicide or remain in the shadow of society

It's funny cause he mentions that. It's funny cause he just uses the same argument we've all heard before. "You're just a pathetic loser who can get laid, so MAN UP and marry" makes no sense. Is he really that ignorant to all the laws and family Court fucking men up? Or the fact that most women have nothing to offer besides their pussies. Trad cucks are delusional

I am currently dating a single mom of 2, it is to easy to get a good girlfriend. Mgtow fags need to fuck off.

im slow but who is this nigger why is he based?

We're not so different you and I

Get money and be confident potato nigger

This hungry skeleton ugly sicario manlet had money and was able to fuck this girl 10 times a day and then some other girls while she was not available.

[spoiler]Hes in jail now because he murdered her after he found out she was cheating[/spoiler]

Bang hookers and keep on keeping on

The problem I have with his argument is that he doesn't "get it". Jordan comes from a period in time when women WERE traditionalist, at least more traditionalist than now. At that men, seeing all these problems, refuse to enter into something that even Jordan acknowledges as weak and unfair.

So to say men don't like how the dating/marriage scene is because they won't listen further exacerbates the problem because:

A) Women don't know what they want (universally agreed upon)
B) Women don't want a man that's passive (using this loosely but even Jordan says women don't want a beta)
C) Does not account for the responsibility the woman must provide to "negotiation" (which in this day in age is nearly none at all)

I'm going to have to give a negative to this one. His rationale misses two of the main reasons why the movement came to exist in the first place. And gives no incentive to think otherwise than the same argument used by the same group MGTOW finds "the oppressor".

you are a good beta provider

Is it actually possible to marry a girl in her early-mid 20s when you're 30+?

I feel like snaring her/convincing her to date you would be impossible with that age gap, without being massively rich

Heh, what are the odds? Me too.

MGTOW need to man up and find a nice single mom to take care of and dote on. There's nothing more satisfying as a man than taking care of a woman and trust me there are so many single mothers out there these days who need some caring. There's no excuse for a man to be single these days. It's pathetic man child shit for video game and weed addicts. Grow the fuck up kiddos.

>bang a hooker
>go home afterwards to your empty house

don't get me wrong, i love going home to shitpost alone... AFTER hanging out with my girlfriend a few days a week.

if this was my whole life it would be a descent into madness

peterson doesn't btfo mgtow cause mgtow has an agenda that peterson obviously can't get accept. the endgame of mgtow is replacing women with robots and separating the gender/removing the vaginal jew. obviously peterson won't agree to something even more extreme than what the nazi or communist did.

do you think this will be a bloodless revolution when we're talking about 50% of the population?


that's what happens to women roastie. not men. men just want to fuck somebody and then they go hire a prostitute or use tinder for a quick fuck

I'm 29 and date a 21 year old girl

I'm poor as hell and a complete dead beat, she works a great job and pays for me to live at her house

No, you'd need money or be fitness model level. My friend is 37 and girls in their early 20's and even late teens hit on him all the time. He is aging incredibly well and is very good looking.

I'm also with a single mom and I'm having trouble with her child when she's not around. How do I discipline little Tyrone when she's not around and he's misbehaving?

Optimal age range for marriage is when the guy is 2-8 years older. A little drift from that can be ok as well depending on circumstance but really close to 5 years difference is the best.

Girls actually love older guys much in the same way guys love younger girls. It works out well.

Peterson's entire philosophy relies on people ordering their lives around stories that he doesn't think are actually based in ontological reality, but are true in a psychological sense. I like his ideas to a degree but the hope he holds is insanely unrealistic. Few would passionately devote their lives to Christian doctrine if they also believed it was simply a collection of wise tales.

>Single mother

Not even the Blacks are that stupid, hell even the niggers are smart enough to know to run away from that shit

>single mothers only priotize their children
>beta is just a money bucket
>divorce rape is almost 100% likely

There's no helping the mentally autistic

miron, except the fact that you're a degenerate

>he thinks he will enjoy his wife's presence in 5+ years
Makes you wonder, if your love is so deep, why do you need the state to put a gun up to your head to prevent you from leaving

>good woman
>single mother

Pick one toothpaste

My girlfriends son is the future of society. Better than having no impact on humanity at all

I don't see how Sup Forumsacks could support MGTOW in the first place. It conflicts with the whole
>muh white genocide
idea

>be me
>be 5'3"
>literal facial deformity
>grow up thinking that "there's someone for everyone"
>start to realize this isn't true at all
>discover MGTOW
>get turned off by all the guys that want to sit there and bitch about things
>just listen to the ones that talk about self-determinism and choosing a life focus that isn't keeping a wife happy
>get fit
>get out of depression
>get decent job
>engage in nerd hobbies and outdoor activities

I still look like a fucking troll but MGTOW helped me. The choice was made for me (women won't even look at me) but realizing there was a life outside of chasing vagina was a life-saver.

I really wish there were monasteries again.

This. Man up, MGTOW. There are wife's sons out there who need you.
JBP is a god among men.

Hell ya I am, I'm a drug addicted guitar player you thin kI don't know this?

I'm attractive as fuck and charming though, hwy wouldn't I take advantage of this??

Pathetic. I bet you watch anime, smoke weed and play videogames every single day. "Men" (boys) like you disgust me.

My mother got fucked over by my father and has to pay him child support. Unheard of I know. It's completely reasonable to avoid women with children, I respect that. Hell I do that too. But to say a single mother isn't a good woman is retarded. Hell would you say the same about a widow? Go the fuck outside.

The single mother people are just trolling, right?

>be short
>have to settle for the worst possible women
lol

You know, monasteries kind of ass rape Peterson's entire argument here. I think you got him on that point.

>that pic
>jews pushing national socialism so that Sup Forumsacks become pro-feminists
This is what happens when shareblue tries to employ meme magic.

I like Peterson a lot, but what's up with this shit. I speak multiple languages, have a comp-sci degree, lift, read and draw, so it's fair to say that I try to improve myself, but I just simply don't make the cut. I don't go on a rant about women, I just go on and keep doing my things. Does that count as being a pathetic weasel?

>why do you need the state to put a gun up to your head to prevent you from leaving
I don't get what you're saying. When you get married, you both share ownership of everything you own.

Men crying because women "win" divorce, when really they are both getting half of their shit, makes zero sense when you AGREED to "whats yours is mine, whats mine is yours" when you proposed.

I agree, Peterson is skimming the surface here and failing to give the topic an appropriate amount of attention.
He recognizes the divorce problems but utterly fails to address them.
I'm not MGTOW at all, but the fact is that shit's fucked up. I saw what happened to my father and other men I know and it's pretty fucking horrible. These are good guys, they go to work and just live regular boring lives. So they fuck up and get lazy in the relationship or maybe take stuff for granted or maybe get depressed or something else... and then their wife leaves them, takes their kids, their house, their savings, pension, etc etc etc...
There's a real problem and Peterson is certainly wrong, or at least misinformed in this. Despite this. I can still respect the guy, he has a lot of good ideas and what not. But he is flat wrong here.

I think MGTOW is stupid as fuck but this
>if you are a man who is having trouble with women, the problem isn't the women, it's you
>because the women are telling you whats wrong with you
>and if you don't listen, it's you
Is complete bullshit. Women tell you to be caring, respectful of feelings,etc but they want something else.

Forget about alimony?

Nope might as well better the children so they don't make the same mistakes. Unless you are a modern tesla autist you should settle down with a nice single mother

>Women tell you to be caring, respectful of feelings,etc but they want something else.
I don't get why this is an issue, when EVERY MAN KNOWS THIS already?

How the fuck do men get convinced that what a woman is saying is true, when we all know they lie?

You must be a woman.

No, I raise these 2 as my own. I atleast will have some postive impact on this world.

If you haven't noticed Peterson knows absolutely nothing about how people actually operate which is ironic considering his job.

Don't fall for it.

No.

This. There's only one way we can make the world a better place and that's by buckling down and fixing the mistakes of others. Yeah it's not pretty but it has to be done and heck we have some spare privilege floating around we can afford to go out of our way to help others. It really makes a difference you know.

Sort yourself out. Get a tenured position in an ivory tower

Widow =/= single mother. If anyone wants to hear more on topic I suggest Moleneux

>I just go on and keep doing my things. Does that count as being a pathetic weasel?
For a guy with a comp-sci degree, you sure can't interpret the spoken word very well.

If you refrain from interacting with women because you think they're all treacherous whores, the answer is yes, and otherwise no. He was talking about the motivations of the MGTOW movement, not the behavior itself.

Not really else there lives would be ruined. Atleast I can help them.

He is a professor. He works and lives in the modern equivalent of an ivory tower.

The guy is smart and he has valuable information, even good insight into some topics, but this is why you don't idolize people. Support them if you can afford it, back them up when they're unfairly attacked, and criticize their ideas or actions when they behave badly. Just remember that EVERYONE has blind spots, everyone.

>whats mine is yours
>whats yours is mine

A logical argument can be made that for future earnings that were possible only through the efforts of BOTH spouses, they both own the value of that income by virtue of "yours is mine, mine is yours", since that income only exists because of both of them.

So if the man can work all day because the woman takes care of the kids and tends to the household, it could logically be argued that they because they both own everything the other owns, his future income is also hers, just like everything she owns is also his.

No I'm a software programmer... so I can make a logical argument for almost everything.

I'm not saying I agree with it, but there is logic to support it.

>let's give men all the responsibilities of marriage and none of the perks
>when they question this shame them and tell them to "man up"
>clearly this strategy will work

Better question is how do you win?
Whether you listen and believe them or not they're always mad about something